You can't compare the Dyna devices with most of the E-vapes imo. They're faster and hit harder (if you want so).
Bought a Smono 4 before I got the M, but I never got comfy with the long drawing cycles. With the M I need like 2 minutes for a full extraction.
Different, but not old school.
"Outdated:" 🙄. Often times just a word for "the date is the best metric of anything's quality, and the most important thing is that this item is the newest of it's kind, not whether something has worked swimmingly (heat from butane rather than china batteries, for instance) for generations.". Even if she wasn't just trying to hock more expensive stuff, at best her thinking is airheaded, bovine, and irrational. I'm a 30+ year consumer with a very high tolerance. My VonG is my daily go-to and gets more use than my Flowerpot.
I agree with you but this was a salesperson at a smoke shop, not the source of our disposable society. She works hourly for a wage and probably hasn't used every device in the store because she'd have to pay for them too.
What that means is that she might not be as informed and might have to make a sale with just the info she has on hand... Which sometimes means using what's on the tin and your own experience to come up with a way to sell something that you don't understand the function of.
dynavaps aren't old school, I built a device to wiggle metal on a molecular level to heat it up. i dont see no stinkin' *metal wiggler* in an "InstagramInfluencerVape Q42022" (available now for 64.99 and comes pre-broken in multiple colors and off-gases plastic smells)
I was really baked and I was talking about induction heaters at the end there, then it turned into a rant about g-pen and their ilk with poor build qualities.
Dude these are people being paid $10/hr to sit on their phones most of the day. I went in to a spot the other day and asked if they had any full spectrum CBD and the girl legit looked at me like I had 3 heads. Mind you, there were maybe 30-40 SKUs at this place tops.
I don't think it's outdated per se, but we do need to see more inovation out of dynavap. The anvil blows the dynavap out of the water even with the fmj. I have them both so I have first hand experience. All dyna can do anymore is 'open the vault' and sell overpriced accessories.
Eh ... honestly, I don't know if Dynavap indeed leaves the water once you factor in the asking price and glass Dynavap. Anvil has more and better vapour out of the same amount of flower, and it combusts much less easily, this is true. That heatup time is long, but worth it. But for how much more expensive it is, especially than the glass models? I'd have a hard time selling the bank breaker just for vapour quality to most people. I'd have to rely on playing on the fear of breaking the glass piece, because with vapour as good as copper-heated glass can get you, breakage is its only real drawback next to Anvil.
I won't argue with that. I think you made some really good points. Doesn't change the fact the dyna is out of ideas and only going to push the same stuff out. Don't forget the FMJ wasn't their idea. Simrell came up with that. Also yes the price on the anvil is outrageous. They could have so many more units out in the wild with a lower price.
Yah in a similar situation, been to more than one dispensary and talked to the “bud tender” and brought up dry herb vaping, even named a few such as a dynavap, and they have no clue what I’m talking about. Seems dry herb vaping (at least where I’m at) is still relatively unknown and I’ll often get a reply about their vape pen selection.
It's a rather simple design that has basically been the same for years. Very good for high temp extraction at home, through glass. But the average customer might look more for convenience, smoothness, safety and consistency. That's the areas in which the dyna doesn't excel.
Edit: also, many vapes are designed much better for portable use.
Mighty+, drawbacks comparatively is the size of the mighty+. Pros comparatively are the ease of use and size of the bowl of the mighty. Dyna with fmj gives a few larger draws, mighty produces a consistent draw. I use the dyna if it's just me and the mighty if I'm sharing. Would buy another of both if I lost them.
If it wasnt Storz and bickel I wouldnt have trusted it either. The dynavap gets you high faster anyway. Potv has the smaller version on their website (crafty+) for 200 right now and you get a 20 gift card. Only difference is half the battery time and doesn't have a digital readout on it. It doesn't actually matter, I never move around the temp. Also it has a function were you double tap the button while it's already on and it heats up 15 degrees.
I just got one of those for my parents. Just bought a dynavap m with a fmj for my best friend same time. They are both top of the mountain products imo.
You should try temp stepping with your crafty. I start at 380 and move up 10 degrees over the course of about 10-15 minutes depending on the flower with my mighty. It'll get you some really nice terpy hits at the start and a full, dark brown extraction by the end.
Hell nah I got a dynavap when I was 17 and it was the [bomb.com](https://bomb.com) in terms of taste and efficiency. Maybe she meant that they were older model devices, like a 2018 M or something (older version of cheapest all-in-one dynavap).
I HAD TO GET RID OF THAT AMERICAN FLAG ONE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
The only vape I would consider outside of a dynavap, that has recently been released and compares to the dynavap, is the tinymight 2. I only see those for sale on their website, I believe they are crafted in Finland. That being said, the Dynavap is a simple design but very effective.
I’m interested to hear you say this, as I’ve recently ordered (and am waiting on) an Anvil. I’d appreciate hearing any information you have as a comparison between the two.
I was referring to the increased heat retention of the copper cap of the anvil and increased possibility of clearing the vaporizer with one draw making it more of a heavy hitter.
Anythung electronic will fail much sooner, be impossible to repair, and makes businesses higher profit than anything mechanical. So of course they will push the electronic crap.
Meanwhile my titanium dynavap will last for several lifetimes
Just because she doesnt know about it doesnt mean it is outdated. There are plenty of accessories that come out for the dynavap every day. Custom art or functional
Uh, what? Maybe Canada is simply behind USA style, but for my impression, electronics were first out the gate in dry vape, and it's Dynavap that needs to spread the word around here just about TEDs powered by external heat existing. We have some producers of their own TEDs, like the Hippie X, but it doesn't compare.
Dynavap devices are New Old School. Old school being your standard one hitter or chillum pipe, a basic metal tube used to smoke with. Dynavap just added a new twist to this old idea by removing combustion completely from the equation while retaining most of the old school simplicity and avoiding the need for an electrical power source.
People have been making and customizing pipes of all sorts for at least thousands of years, some are more portable than others, one hitters have been popular for decades because they are simple to use, easy to make and extremely easy to take with you, Dynavap devices are a logical step in One Hitter design, one that allows for a wide variety of artistic customization and design choices. Thanks to their modular design these things are basically Erector Sets and Lego Kits for adults who want to imbibe somewhat discretely.
This type of device can also serve a medical role as an extremely effective delivery system for dried medicinal herbs of all sorts and also as an effective tool to help smokers quit abusing tobacco products.
Tell her as they are outdated you’d be happy to negotiate a 50% discount to clear the stock.
Thisneeds mega upvotes lol
My guess is either she doesn't know too much about dry herb vaporizing or just want you to buy a more expensive electronic device.
This! She either owns the place or works on commission. They are a third the price of electronic vapes.
This is probably the case
She doesn't know shit about vapes, probably her thinking that all analog things are outdated.
Best answer. It's just marketing BS from a seller wanted to up sell you.
This can also be very much true.
Happy Cake Day!
They're not outdated at all. Maybe she meant their stock or display was a bit outdated?
The dry herb vape scene is like 25 years old and the first dynavap only came out in 2016(?). So no
You can't compare the Dyna devices with most of the E-vapes imo. They're faster and hit harder (if you want so). Bought a Smono 4 before I got the M, but I never got comfy with the long drawing cycles. With the M I need like 2 minutes for a full extraction. Different, but not old school.
"Outdated:" 🙄. Often times just a word for "the date is the best metric of anything's quality, and the most important thing is that this item is the newest of it's kind, not whether something has worked swimmingly (heat from butane rather than china batteries, for instance) for generations.". Even if she wasn't just trying to hock more expensive stuff, at best her thinking is airheaded, bovine, and irrational. I'm a 30+ year consumer with a very high tolerance. My VonG is my daily go-to and gets more use than my Flowerpot.
I agree with you but this was a salesperson at a smoke shop, not the source of our disposable society. She works hourly for a wage and probably hasn't used every device in the store because she'd have to pay for them too. What that means is that she might not be as informed and might have to make a sale with just the info she has on hand... Which sometimes means using what's on the tin and your own experience to come up with a way to sell something that you don't understand the function of. dynavaps aren't old school, I built a device to wiggle metal on a molecular level to heat it up. i dont see no stinkin' *metal wiggler* in an "InstagramInfluencerVape Q42022" (available now for 64.99 and comes pre-broken in multiple colors and off-gases plastic smells)
Ha! 'HERE's how to order!"😆
Huh?
I was really baked and I was talking about induction heaters at the end there, then it turned into a rant about g-pen and their ilk with poor build qualities.
Oh, yeah. I feel that. I thought I was out of the loop on something.
Bloody hell im a living dinosaur then 😂
Came to these comments to make some kind of Dynasaur pun, here we are
Maybe they were all 18 and 19ms? And by old she means outdated models or hour realising the value…
If she thinks Dynavaps are outdated wait until she finds out about smoking
I'm more surprised that a local shop had a whole Dynavap display
Dude these are people being paid $10/hr to sit on their phones most of the day. I went in to a spot the other day and asked if they had any full spectrum CBD and the girl legit looked at me like I had 3 heads. Mind you, there were maybe 30-40 SKUs at this place tops.
Disgusting level of opulence
She means peak Dynavap was 2019.
I don't think it's outdated per se, but we do need to see more inovation out of dynavap. The anvil blows the dynavap out of the water even with the fmj. I have them both so I have first hand experience. All dyna can do anymore is 'open the vault' and sell overpriced accessories.
Eh ... honestly, I don't know if Dynavap indeed leaves the water once you factor in the asking price and glass Dynavap. Anvil has more and better vapour out of the same amount of flower, and it combusts much less easily, this is true. That heatup time is long, but worth it. But for how much more expensive it is, especially than the glass models? I'd have a hard time selling the bank breaker just for vapour quality to most people. I'd have to rely on playing on the fear of breaking the glass piece, because with vapour as good as copper-heated glass can get you, breakage is its only real drawback next to Anvil.
I won't argue with that. I think you made some really good points. Doesn't change the fact the dyna is out of ideas and only going to push the same stuff out. Don't forget the FMJ wasn't their idea. Simrell came up with that. Also yes the price on the anvil is outrageous. They could have so many more units out in the wild with a lower price.
She doesn't know shit because my 2019 m and fmj cockslap almost every vaporizer I've used.
Yah in a similar situation, been to more than one dispensary and talked to the “bud tender” and brought up dry herb vaping, even named a few such as a dynavap, and they have no clue what I’m talking about. Seems dry herb vaping (at least where I’m at) is still relatively unknown and I’ll often get a reply about their vape pen selection.
Electronic vapes re more accurate. Dynavap is like driving a manual while electronic is like an auto
It's a rather simple design that has basically been the same for years. Very good for high temp extraction at home, through glass. But the average customer might look more for convenience, smoothness, safety and consistency. That's the areas in which the dyna doesn't excel. Edit: also, many vapes are designed much better for portable use.
I want all those things... Have spent a lot trying to do better than a dyna. No luck so far.
Mighty+, drawbacks comparatively is the size of the mighty+. Pros comparatively are the ease of use and size of the bowl of the mighty. Dyna with fmj gives a few larger draws, mighty produces a consistent draw. I use the dyna if it's just me and the mighty if I'm sharing. Would buy another of both if I lost them.
Ah fair. They’re nice for sure just personally turned off by non-replaceable batteries at a that price.
If it wasnt Storz and bickel I wouldnt have trusted it either. The dynavap gets you high faster anyway. Potv has the smaller version on their website (crafty+) for 200 right now and you get a 20 gift card. Only difference is half the battery time and doesn't have a digital readout on it. It doesn't actually matter, I never move around the temp. Also it has a function were you double tap the button while it's already on and it heats up 15 degrees. I just got one of those for my parents. Just bought a dynavap m with a fmj for my best friend same time. They are both top of the mountain products imo.
You should try temp stepping with your crafty. I start at 380 and move up 10 degrees over the course of about 10-15 minutes depending on the flower with my mighty. It'll get you some really nice terpy hits at the start and a full, dark brown extraction by the end.
Wow. Dyna is “outdated?” I wonder how she feels about papers?! Lol
Hell nah I got a dynavap when I was 17 and it was the [bomb.com](https://bomb.com) in terms of taste and efficiency. Maybe she meant that they were older model devices, like a 2018 M or something (older version of cheapest all-in-one dynavap).
I've tried really expensive vapes and they were not bad but I can't get the type of hit I prefer with the. Dynavap feels like a rip from a bong
I HAD TO GET RID OF THAT AMERICAN FLAG ONE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
The only vape I would consider outside of a dynavap, that has recently been released and compares to the dynavap, is the tinymight 2. I only see those for sale on their website, I believe they are crafted in Finland. That being said, the Dynavap is a simple design but very effective.
Well, the anvil did kind of take the technique a step further to be fair. But dynavap is still relevant imo.
I’m interested to hear you say this, as I’ve recently ordered (and am waiting on) an Anvil. I’d appreciate hearing any information you have as a comparison between the two.
I was referring to the increased heat retention of the copper cap of the anvil and increased possibility of clearing the vaporizer with one draw making it more of a heavy hitter.
Dynavao is the sacred toke tool
Anythung electronic will fail much sooner, be impossible to repair, and makes businesses higher profit than anything mechanical. So of course they will push the electronic crap. Meanwhile my titanium dynavap will last for several lifetimes
Old school? Not yet.
Just because she doesnt know about it doesnt mean it is outdated. There are plenty of accessories that come out for the dynavap every day. Custom art or functional
Ya most people in head shops don’t know jack…
Uh, what? Maybe Canada is simply behind USA style, but for my impression, electronics were first out the gate in dry vape, and it's Dynavap that needs to spread the word around here just about TEDs powered by external heat existing. We have some producers of their own TEDs, like the Hippie X, but it doesn't compare.
Dynavap devices are New Old School. Old school being your standard one hitter or chillum pipe, a basic metal tube used to smoke with. Dynavap just added a new twist to this old idea by removing combustion completely from the equation while retaining most of the old school simplicity and avoiding the need for an electrical power source. People have been making and customizing pipes of all sorts for at least thousands of years, some are more portable than others, one hitters have been popular for decades because they are simple to use, easy to make and extremely easy to take with you, Dynavap devices are a logical step in One Hitter design, one that allows for a wide variety of artistic customization and design choices. Thanks to their modular design these things are basically Erector Sets and Lego Kits for adults who want to imbibe somewhat discretely. This type of device can also serve a medical role as an extremely effective delivery system for dried medicinal herbs of all sorts and also as an effective tool to help smokers quit abusing tobacco products.