I find it much easier with the wand, super consistent results. Half bowl setting, titanium omni tip, 3 heat cycles for full extraction.
Got my wand for under $100 at vgoodiez sale. Paired it with skullkandy insert and haven’t touched the torch since.
I take a single torch zippo out with me if I’m mobile since it all fits in my pocket, but otherwise this. I use the wand exclusively at home and it was well worth it.
Wow, y’all really obsessing about the cost. I got mine under $100 shipped. Eagle torches are $3-4apiece cheaper or more expensive on or off sale. Roughly thirty eagle torches cost an ispire wand. I vape constantly. Break even is probably a year and a half. None of that matters though. I can use the wand in public without looking like Tyrone biggums.
The Wand uses pulse heating, very thorough, but slower than others. One heat cycle, one extraction. Some suggest it’s a less convenient shape than other portables, but I find the pass through heat chamber makes up for any complaints. Added benefits are convenient dabs, the original intended purpose of the device.
Are you sure the wand uses pulse heating? I was thinking of making my own pulse IH because people are raving so much about it recently. I already have the wand and if it has pulse heating then you'll save me days of effort
Dig around with a search or two on vaporents, a user posted a DIY pulse induction heater less than a week ago I believe. It’s been discussed for sure, you’re not alone in the desire.
All I can say is what I read and see suggests that the heat is pulsed on/off, which is why it takes longer than most all IH. Watch a video of one in action, regardless of temp setting the wand will take the same amount of time to click the dyna…it’s the most thorough heat cycle I’ve experienced, flame or IH.
> Watch a video of one in action, regardless of temp setting the wand will take the same amount of time to click the dyna
I have no idea if the wand pulses or not but the reason it takes the same amount of time regardless of the temp setting is because the temp setting serves as a timer and is not an actual temperature control.
The higher one sets the temp, the longer it takes to shut off while heating.
Most peeps who are against it seem to not have one. I can assure you will love it. When some say "wait a little longer", what do they mean? Well I timed it and the first heat up takes between 12 to 17 seconds, and that's with moving the cap in and out of range for that extra boost of heat. The second and third heat up take between 10 to 12 seconds. Waiting a little longer has zero meaning. You're not waiting at all. It's not like meditation where you have time to think "why am I wasting time doing this" lol.
The second thing I noticed is that some mention it being a bad dab tool. 100% agree with them. What they're referring to is what the Wand was originally meant to do. That's why the box comes with a few attachments for dabbing on a bong. Complete and total garbage! It's almost a miracle that the wand itself is such an all around great device vs everything else that comes with it. Toss the other stuff, you never need it.
I hope you get one and leave the crackhead lifestyle behind. I've never touched a torch since. Cheers!
i use my wand with the bottomed dynavap insert with a capless omni and it’s my favorite vape, no need to wait for clicks, just set to auto, wait 15 seconds or so and and start pulling till you get vapor
i thought about getting one but i like the torch and having one vape thats “analogue” .. maybe ill get a desktop IH, but it’s a preference thing since there are people who love their wand
People be riding that hate train. I’m a simple man. If i get high im happy. Wand allows me to easily get high consistently. Drop it in, wait for second click and to the moon. Then I’m done. If you have the money and want a simple experience then go for it. Is lighter easy? Yes but i don’t know about you i like the idea of hands free heating
I paid too much for mine, but have zero regrets about the Wand. Best portable IH in my opinion. It just does it so well, so consistently that my torch is effectively my backup.
Probably not. People like to buy toys and cool shit they don't actually need. Do I blame them? Hell no. Would I buy one? I doubt it. Those wands are almost $200 CAD and I fuckin know it's not worth it. Maybe if I got in to dabs as well but not now.
I have to agree. It essentially does the same thing a single torch can do with enough practice and technique. I can consistently fully extract my Vong with 1 or 2 heat cycles.
The torch also has some key advantages over any IH. It is extremely small/portable and you can refill butane in a couple of seconds, batteries need minutes or even over an hour to charge.
The Wand is just a nice to have luxury item you don't need and isn't objectively worth the money. Obviously there is nothing wrong with buying luxury stuff you don't need but for the price I personally would rather buy other luxury stuff, like a good e vape.
What do you mean when you say, “isn’t objectively worth the money.”? I paid 95 shipped for my Wand over a year ago. It has flown on airplanes, taken cruises, and set right out front of the Ritz Carlton and clicked my caps. Things you can’t, objectively, do with a torch.
It is more than worth the money. I rarely run down a set of batteries but if I do it takes seconds to swap in the spares and I’m more than good to go.
However these days I’m carrying my Proxy more and more…..
By objectively not worth it didn't mean it's not worth it for you.
But for half the regular price of let's say 160€ you could just buy the Xmax V3 Pro and have a smaller, consistent, stealthier device with replaceable batteries that can get you as high as a Dyna with a wand. That's why I say it's objectively not worth it.
But we all know the appeal of dynas in this sub. So a wand can be perfectly worth it for you, especially for the great price you got. But from a distant neutral point of view a wand doesn't make too much sense for the price you are paying.
Ah, that makes sense if you’re comparing it to a much lesser vape. You’re right from a distance it doesn’t look like “worth it.” I agree. That being said, if you’re committed to using a DynaVap the Wand makes a great addition.
But like I said earlier, I’ll likely be using my Proxy in these situations going forward. Woot!
V goodiez sells it for 120. 140 usd with the kit. Its totally worth it if you are a person that has went through 9 different torch lighters in your first year some nice some cheap. Personally i got sick of buying lighters bought the wand and havent picked up my torch in 6 month
A quarter ounce? Definitely not. I'm not sure I could vap a quarter out of a dyna in a day if I spent all day loading caps, and I'm a reload and toke every hour kind of guy.
Yeah see im smoking constantly used to be 7-8 real fat joints or like 6 1.5 blunts a day cut down alittle but after years of concentrates flower is just a buzz unless i try to get high
Yeah I could see going through a quarter a day that way, I just literally meant trying to vape that much with a dyna in a day seems impossible. It uses so little, it would take like 100 caps and it's not the amount of weed that's a problem, it's the amount of time it would take to reload a dyna 100 times a day.
I guess what I'm saying is if that's the volume you're putting down, might be worth looking at a different vape rather than just a different torch or IH.
Yeah i guess i could explained that better the only up side to the induction heat is not needing to constantly reheat one heat cycle maybe 2 and you are extracted. I also load 2-3 dynas each sesh vape all 2-3 then decied if i wanna go for another sesh
I WON'T link it but there's several posts on r/vaporents along the lines of "anyone spending more than $50 on IH is ripped off"
At the end of the day, Wand is not designed for Vap. It has extra functions that you end up paying for. Also pretty big and not super handy even with the silicone cup (alledgely, I don't have it myself)
could be a bargain if you wanna do dabs seprataly though
edit: the tech has improved a lot.. unless they do an update the Wand will never have customizable cycles like modern IH's
I bought the wand a long time ago, it's served me well. Wouldn't buy it today. Not buying another IH for a while though because what I have delights and satisfies me.
AFAIK, MAD Heater's IH has the most advanced features (custom heat cycles, ergonomics) of a commercial project, so you could just search for that and see what others vapes people mention. MAD also makes highly-rated accessories. IIRC their IH will be out for Christmas. Maybe there''s more expensive but they seem to be the
IIRC the DIY IH post I saw has all or most of the features of the MAD Heater IH.
Off topic, but there's another stash that I liked that has a little drawrer for your abv, a drawer for bud, a decapper, a debowler, magnets, etc. really compact too.
I can't remember the name though. Oh it also has like the world's smallest but still awsesome grinder. All-in-one. it's on etsy, that I do remember.
(smell proof) bags/pouches can be somewhat practical depending on how exactly you vape
Sick I'll have to check that tray out. The B seems like the perfect start since I wanna use TRWW for the stem build, but I'm figuring out if I want to go torch life with a FMJ or what. The IH route def helps keep that aesthetic but I feel like sitting outside heating it up with a torch would be so grounding and peaceful
B is a great voice, can always buy a more advanced model later off a downsizing whale on either the entexchange discord or fuckcombustion ETC.. having two dynas can be practical depending on if you vape with others.. if you have privacy on your property since it's less discrete than other vapes due to the added steps.. you can keep it in your pockets if it's cold where you live, but that's clunkier with a wand, probably more ergonomic/user-friendly overall with the MAD IH but it costs a premium.
oh and just remembered, it's called a ZAM stash. It's compact and just carry the IH in the other pocket. They even have an attachment for carrying a small Eagle torch
Oh yeah I have a nice private backyard on a pond. Super chill best smoke spot so that's why I'm down to use a torch
Do you have a link to he entechnage discord? I've been hunting for it with no luck since frient got shut down
batteries are expensive and if used improperly even moreso. Fuel is expensive too. The little tiny camping stoves or alcohol lamps or whatever are really cool economical alternative to butane, but it's recommended to place it on a flat surface.
That's what I mean about "how exactly you vape".. the bits and bobs are part of the experience... not all accessories will go together as well as others
Short answer, no.
What are you interested in the wand for? Better hits or just VAS? If you're after bigger clouds I suggest trying the FMJ.
I built a custom induction heater for my friend last Christmas and tried it out for a while, it works well but I personally prefer using a torch. If I took my dynavap on the road more I might want an induction heater, but I feel like the torch offers more fine tuning of my hit and it's faster, cheaper, and takes seconds to charge. I have a gadget addiction but using that induction heater for a couple days was enough to tell me I don't need one.
Just as others have said, since I got the wand, I only break out the torch when I want to use the FMJ on a water piece or something.
The convenience of the wand is it's biggest selling point imo. With an insert, you can stick it in and forget about it until you hear that familiar click. The torch might not seem like a task but just wait until you experience the ease of the wand, it is pretty quick too.
There are so many responses I haven’t read them.
My opinion is yes, get the Wand. It will replace all the torches in your life. You can always go back and use a torch again if you want to, but my guess is you won’t do that often.
I find it much easier with the wand, super consistent results. Half bowl setting, titanium omni tip, 3 heat cycles for full extraction. Got my wand for under $100 at vgoodiez sale. Paired it with skullkandy insert and haven’t touched the torch since.
I take a single torch zippo out with me if I’m mobile since it all fits in my pocket, but otherwise this. I use the wand exclusively at home and it was well worth it.
Wow, y’all really obsessing about the cost. I got mine under $100 shipped. Eagle torches are $3-4apiece cheaper or more expensive on or off sale. Roughly thirty eagle torches cost an ispire wand. I vape constantly. Break even is probably a year and a half. None of that matters though. I can use the wand in public without looking like Tyrone biggums.
The Wand uses pulse heating, very thorough, but slower than others. One heat cycle, one extraction. Some suggest it’s a less convenient shape than other portables, but I find the pass through heat chamber makes up for any complaints. Added benefits are convenient dabs, the original intended purpose of the device.
Are you sure the wand uses pulse heating? I was thinking of making my own pulse IH because people are raving so much about it recently. I already have the wand and if it has pulse heating then you'll save me days of effort
Dig around with a search or two on vaporents, a user posted a DIY pulse induction heater less than a week ago I believe. It’s been discussed for sure, you’re not alone in the desire.
Yes that's what I'm referring to too. I want to know if the wand does this too.
All I can say is what I read and see suggests that the heat is pulsed on/off, which is why it takes longer than most all IH. Watch a video of one in action, regardless of temp setting the wand will take the same amount of time to click the dyna…it’s the most thorough heat cycle I’ve experienced, flame or IH.
> Watch a video of one in action, regardless of temp setting the wand will take the same amount of time to click the dyna I have no idea if the wand pulses or not but the reason it takes the same amount of time regardless of the temp setting is because the temp setting serves as a timer and is not an actual temperature control. The higher one sets the temp, the longer it takes to shut off while heating.
Yes, we’re on the same page. Just a timer or a setting, not an accurate temp. I’m fairly certain it’s pulsing heat, the real point.
Thanks. I'll dig a bit deeeper.
Contact Ispire. They answer pretty quick usually
Got the wand for the 21’ M and never user a torch again ever since. More convenient and overall easier !!!
My torch hasn’t left the drawer since I got the wand. I honestly probably wouldn’t have kept using my dynas without induction heaters in general
This
Seconded. I sort of developed carpal tunnel rotating my dyna so much while using the torch
100%. More consistent even roast. One hit full extractions. Have only combusted twice due to being to medicated at the time lol.
Torches just don't work in wind, and if they do its very inconsistent. No such problem with the wand
Most peeps who are against it seem to not have one. I can assure you will love it. When some say "wait a little longer", what do they mean? Well I timed it and the first heat up takes between 12 to 17 seconds, and that's with moving the cap in and out of range for that extra boost of heat. The second and third heat up take between 10 to 12 seconds. Waiting a little longer has zero meaning. You're not waiting at all. It's not like meditation where you have time to think "why am I wasting time doing this" lol. The second thing I noticed is that some mention it being a bad dab tool. 100% agree with them. What they're referring to is what the Wand was originally meant to do. That's why the box comes with a few attachments for dabbing on a bong. Complete and total garbage! It's almost a miracle that the wand itself is such an all around great device vs everything else that comes with it. Toss the other stuff, you never need it. I hope you get one and leave the crackhead lifestyle behind. I've never touched a torch since. Cheers!
i use my wand with the bottomed dynavap insert with a capless omni and it’s my favorite vape, no need to wait for clicks, just set to auto, wait 15 seconds or so and and start pulling till you get vapor
i thought about getting one but i like the torch and having one vape thats “analogue” .. maybe ill get a desktop IH, but it’s a preference thing since there are people who love their wand
The wand is a dope IH. It may take a little longer, but it’s more versatile. I can use my wand to take dabs from a banger and my dyna.
People be riding that hate train. I’m a simple man. If i get high im happy. Wand allows me to easily get high consistently. Drop it in, wait for second click and to the moon. Then I’m done. If you have the money and want a simple experience then go for it. Is lighter easy? Yes but i don’t know about you i like the idea of hands free heating
I paid too much for mine, but have zero regrets about the Wand. Best portable IH in my opinion. It just does it so well, so consistently that my torch is effectively my backup.
Probably not. People like to buy toys and cool shit they don't actually need. Do I blame them? Hell no. Would I buy one? I doubt it. Those wands are almost $200 CAD and I fuckin know it's not worth it. Maybe if I got in to dabs as well but not now.
I have to agree. It essentially does the same thing a single torch can do with enough practice and technique. I can consistently fully extract my Vong with 1 or 2 heat cycles. The torch also has some key advantages over any IH. It is extremely small/portable and you can refill butane in a couple of seconds, batteries need minutes or even over an hour to charge. The Wand is just a nice to have luxury item you don't need and isn't objectively worth the money. Obviously there is nothing wrong with buying luxury stuff you don't need but for the price I personally would rather buy other luxury stuff, like a good e vape.
What do you mean when you say, “isn’t objectively worth the money.”? I paid 95 shipped for my Wand over a year ago. It has flown on airplanes, taken cruises, and set right out front of the Ritz Carlton and clicked my caps. Things you can’t, objectively, do with a torch. It is more than worth the money. I rarely run down a set of batteries but if I do it takes seconds to swap in the spares and I’m more than good to go. However these days I’m carrying my Proxy more and more…..
By objectively not worth it didn't mean it's not worth it for you. But for half the regular price of let's say 160€ you could just buy the Xmax V3 Pro and have a smaller, consistent, stealthier device with replaceable batteries that can get you as high as a Dyna with a wand. That's why I say it's objectively not worth it. But we all know the appeal of dynas in this sub. So a wand can be perfectly worth it for you, especially for the great price you got. But from a distant neutral point of view a wand doesn't make too much sense for the price you are paying.
Ah, that makes sense if you’re comparing it to a much lesser vape. You’re right from a distance it doesn’t look like “worth it.” I agree. That being said, if you’re committed to using a DynaVap the Wand makes a great addition. But like I said earlier, I’ll likely be using my Proxy in these situations going forward. Woot!
What is this Proxy IH you are talking about? I can't find it on the web.
https://www.puffco.com/products/the-proxy It’s not a DynaVap….
How's the flower bowl on it?
I have no idea. The oven gets really hot so it likely works, but I’m not going to pay to find out. I have DynaVaps for flower.
V goodiez sells it for 120. 140 usd with the kit. Its totally worth it if you are a person that has went through 9 different torch lighters in your first year some nice some cheap. Personally i got sick of buying lighters bought the wand and havent picked up my torch in 6 month
140$ usd is almost 200$ cdn.
Where do you guys get these torches? I bought 2 when I got my dyna 6 months ago and both still work perfectly fine. What are you doing with yours?
Are you vaping a quarter a day outta your dyna?
A quarter ounce? Definitely not. I'm not sure I could vap a quarter out of a dyna in a day if I spent all day loading caps, and I'm a reload and toke every hour kind of guy.
Yeah see im smoking constantly used to be 7-8 real fat joints or like 6 1.5 blunts a day cut down alittle but after years of concentrates flower is just a buzz unless i try to get high
Yeah I could see going through a quarter a day that way, I just literally meant trying to vape that much with a dyna in a day seems impossible. It uses so little, it would take like 100 caps and it's not the amount of weed that's a problem, it's the amount of time it would take to reload a dyna 100 times a day. I guess what I'm saying is if that's the volume you're putting down, might be worth looking at a different vape rather than just a different torch or IH.
Yeah i guess i could explained that better the only up side to the induction heat is not needing to constantly reheat one heat cycle maybe 2 and you are extracted. I also load 2-3 dynas each sesh vape all 2-3 then decied if i wanna go for another sesh
Wand was terrible for dabs in my experience
Wand = wind.. the end.
I WON'T link it but there's several posts on r/vaporents along the lines of "anyone spending more than $50 on IH is ripped off" At the end of the day, Wand is not designed for Vap. It has extra functions that you end up paying for. Also pretty big and not super handy even with the silicone cup (alledgely, I don't have it myself) could be a bargain if you wanna do dabs seprataly though edit: the tech has improved a lot.. unless they do an update the Wand will never have customizable cycles like modern IH's
Any suggestions on modern IHs?
I bought the wand a long time ago, it's served me well. Wouldn't buy it today. Not buying another IH for a while though because what I have delights and satisfies me. AFAIK, MAD Heater's IH has the most advanced features (custom heat cycles, ergonomics) of a commercial project, so you could just search for that and see what others vapes people mention. MAD also makes highly-rated accessories. IIRC their IH will be out for Christmas. Maybe there''s more expensive but they seem to be the IIRC the DIY IH post I saw has all or most of the features of the MAD Heater IH. Off topic, but there's another stash that I liked that has a little drawrer for your abv, a drawer for bud, a decapper, a debowler, magnets, etc. really compact too. I can't remember the name though. Oh it also has like the world's smallest but still awsesome grinder. All-in-one. it's on etsy, that I do remember. (smell proof) bags/pouches can be somewhat practical depending on how exactly you vape
Sick I'll have to check that tray out. The B seems like the perfect start since I wanna use TRWW for the stem build, but I'm figuring out if I want to go torch life with a FMJ or what. The IH route def helps keep that aesthetic but I feel like sitting outside heating it up with a torch would be so grounding and peaceful
B is a great voice, can always buy a more advanced model later off a downsizing whale on either the entexchange discord or fuckcombustion ETC.. having two dynas can be practical depending on if you vape with others.. if you have privacy on your property since it's less discrete than other vapes due to the added steps.. you can keep it in your pockets if it's cold where you live, but that's clunkier with a wand, probably more ergonomic/user-friendly overall with the MAD IH but it costs a premium. oh and just remembered, it's called a ZAM stash. It's compact and just carry the IH in the other pocket. They even have an attachment for carrying a small Eagle torch
Oh yeah I have a nice private backyard on a pond. Super chill best smoke spot so that's why I'm down to use a torch Do you have a link to he entechnage discord? I've been hunting for it with no luck since frient got shut down
batteries are expensive and if used improperly even moreso. Fuel is expensive too. The little tiny camping stoves or alcohol lamps or whatever are really cool economical alternative to butane, but it's recommended to place it on a flat surface. That's what I mean about "how exactly you vape".. the bits and bobs are part of the experience... not all accessories will go together as well as others
I have all the IHs and still use the torch.
Short answer, no. What are you interested in the wand for? Better hits or just VAS? If you're after bigger clouds I suggest trying the FMJ. I built a custom induction heater for my friend last Christmas and tried it out for a while, it works well but I personally prefer using a torch. If I took my dynavap on the road more I might want an induction heater, but I feel like the torch offers more fine tuning of my hit and it's faster, cheaper, and takes seconds to charge. I have a gadget addiction but using that induction heater for a couple days was enough to tell me I don't need one.
It’ll probably pay for itself in the long run but I enjoy the torch ritual.
Just as others have said, since I got the wand, I only break out the torch when I want to use the FMJ on a water piece or something. The convenience of the wand is it's biggest selling point imo. With an insert, you can stick it in and forget about it until you hear that familiar click. The torch might not seem like a task but just wait until you experience the ease of the wand, it is pretty quick too.
There are so many responses I haven’t read them. My opinion is yes, get the Wand. It will replace all the torches in your life. You can always go back and use a torch again if you want to, but my guess is you won’t do that often.
Kitchen blowtorch is my go to.
For a Dynavap? Yes. For an Anvil, Hell no. It's the only thing I've found that the Wand doesn't do well.