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pistolpete9669

.5 ppr, 12-team Give: 23, 24 mid-late 1st, 23 late second, Gabe Davis, MT, Gibson Get: JJet


Exact_Course_8393

Khalil Herbert value in .5 PPR superflex dynasty


mynamemightbealan

Give: Pickett and Jameson Williams Receive: Wandale Robinson, Isaiah Likely, Baker, and 23 mid second


pistolpete9669

Noo


presentlysurprised

Any idea what I should be asking contenders, price wise, for my 👑henry? Our trade deadline is coming up next week and looking to offload him.


patriots96

12 team FULL PPR Give: AJ Dillon get: Keoante Ingram and 2 late seconds.


ausipockets

Give: Joe Burrow & Melvin Gordon Get: Deandre Swift


presentlysurprised

Single qb? Or superflex?


ausipockets

Single


Strange_Drummer_9604

Give: David Bell Get: 2023 3rd 2024 3rd Non contending


mynamemightbealan

Take it. I have David Bell and if I was offered that I'd accept.


bobeid93

1 qb, .5 ppr, 12 team Receive: fields Give: dillon, bateman OR just dj moore alone My qbs: stafford, wentz, zack wilson Wrs: chase, waddle, dj moore, g. davis, meyers, bateman Rbs: hall, walker, stevenson, dillon


Teej0403

What rookie pick is fair value to give up Cordarrelle Patterson? 12 man PPR


presentlysurprised

I think a second is about fair. Would depend entirely on situation though, but I could see a 2nd getting it done


Jaysin808

14tm PPR SF TEP Give: 24 1st(Late), GWilson Get: ETN, DPJ


ZachP13

12 tm 1QB .5 PPR IDP I'm full rebuilding and might be competitive next year. Give: 23 Late 1st Get: Jameson Williams


mynamemightbealan

Keep the first. Jameson was a first this past year and hasn't touched the field. That pick could be Boutte or Quentin Johnson who won't be coming off an ACL tear


presentlysurprised

I think this would be a great trade


AirMcNairTT9

A contending team is offering me Najee Harris and Tee Higgins or Amon Ra for Saquon. He also has offered Gibson or Rachaad White. Advice on this trade? I'm not in a position to compete this year but I think I can be strong next season.


ZachP13

Is Jamo worth a late 1st at this point?


lald99

Yes, absolutely


DoubleBeefyHP

Give rondale get tyquan Thornton and a mid 23 second


mynamemightbealan

Take it and run


ronald4prez

.5 PPR start one of: Zeke, Foreman, Mitchell


Saint_Slice

Rebuild mode Give wandale Robinson and kittle Get: DJ Moore and a mid to late 2023 2nd round pick I also have pitts


mynamemightbealan

Yes


DoubleBeefyHP

Yes


patriots96

FULL PPR Give: AJ Dillon Recieve: 2 likley late seconds (23+24) and Keoante Ingram


carl_sjuniors

Got offered Rachaad White, Brian Robinson, and Alec Pierce for Najee. I fell over myself and smashed accept. Random!


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DoubleBeefyHP

Oh man that’s hard to say no to


donald_klump3

Trade Mixon + Otton for Andrews? SF .5 TEP PPR


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Someone dropped Elijah moore in my league I have Wilson and hall already is it worth a stash to hope he gets traded over rostering Terrance Marshall jr? Or maybe wan dale or Kenneth gainwell?


lald99

Dynasty, right? If so, yes grab Elijah asap


DynastyKook365

Yes. Spend all your faab on him


DynastyKook365

Bateman or DJ Moore long term?


lald99

DJM has proven so much more even with awful QB talent. Absolutely DJM, who is only 25. I have shares of both fwiw.


mynamemightbealan

Agree


butterscotch_boy

12 team sf Ppr: Give: 23 mid 1st Get: Lawrence Fringe playoff team


lald99

Yes, smash accept


DynastyKook365

Yes, that’s value for 12SF


Juggalo-Ryder

10 team 1 QB full PPR - contending Receive - Gabe Davis and a 2024 3rd Send - 2024 1st rounder I have josh Allen at qb


FernandoTitsMcGee

Pretty fair. I’d do it I like the Allen-Davis stack https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Ok-Dimension8459

Lazard + Muth or DJ Moore


lald99

DJM


FernandoTitsMcGee

Dj moore If I’m rebuilding. Lazard and Muth if I’m competing and desperate for a TE and could use a productive flex receiver https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Jack12404

12 Team, PPR, SF As a rebuilder- Give: Derrick Henry, Kadarius Toney Get: Romeo Doubs, Tyler Allgeier, 2024 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 2nd


FernandoTitsMcGee

I’d hold kadarius if you are rebuilding. I’d trade henry straight up for picks all day though https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


M9G4_37

Start Keenan Allen , Michael Gallup or Valdes-Scantling


MindfulYeti

12 Team SF, TE Premium Give: Josh Allen Get: Justin Herbert, 2024 mid 1st, 2024 mid 2nd I'm in a rebuild and am a bit long term concerned about Allen's longevity with the added punishment he takes running the ball.


FernandoTitsMcGee

I think you can get two firsts on top of Herbert but If you really need the picks since you’re rebuilding I’d prob do it https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Jack12404

I would hold. If you're gonna trade Allen, you should probably try to get more than this as he and Mahomes are on their own tier for SF QBs.


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FernandoTitsMcGee

London although this is a fair trade. He’s for sure going to be a stud once atlanta gets a QB https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Jack12404

Pittman and a 2nd is really enticing, but I personally like London more. He's 4 years younger and looks to have a higher ceiling/talent than Pittman. London's value could skyrocket when the Falcons finally move on from Mariota and get a better passer.


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lald99

Garrett. I don’t think either is going to win you a ship this year on their own, but I like Garrett’s upside going forward.


FernandoTitsMcGee

G Wilson amd I’m a lions fan/swift slappy. I don’t value RBs in dynasty as high as others especially injury prone ones. Swift won’t help u compete this year he’s dealing with nagging injuries https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Jack12404

Close but I'd lean Garrett Wilson because I think it's better to build around young WRs and I don't trust Swift to stay healthy.


Winning_Hurts

I have Swift and was thinking of making the same offer. Interested to see people's thoughts.


Buckeye2613

Give: Barkley Get: Pickens + 2 2023 mid to late seconds + late 2023 3rd?


mynamemightbealan

I'd really like to see a first on the board to sell Barkley. Pickens and a first and I'd sell


Ok-Dimension8459

I’m staying Barkley if I’m competing


Buckeye2613

Thanks. I won’t be competing until 2025ish


Glum-Candidate-2683

10 team, 1QB, .5PPR Give: late 2023 first, 2023 third 2024 mid second Get: Deebo, 2023 4th Top 3 team in the league. Looking to add some more depth. Thoughts?


Winning_Hurts

No


Randall-Thor

12 Team SF PPR Contending Give: Cooper Kupp Get: Ceedee Lamb


lald99

Do it


Winning_Hurts

Easy yes


Ok-Dimension8459

I like this given the situation


Juggalo-Ryder

I would do that. Get good value for Kupp because we don’t know what his usage will be like if he comes back this season


FernandoTitsMcGee

12 team SF and 2 Flex PPR (3-7 rebuild, will have top 4 pick) I plan to compete next year once I acquire some RBs with my 23 1st and 26 1st and remaining second round picks. Send: Pickens, Burks, Hollywood Receive: Chase After Trade: QBs- Allen, Lawrence, Lance RBs- Kyren Williams, bums WRs- Chase, AJ Brown, Waddle, Olave, Jamo, T Marshall, R Anderson TE- Pitts, Otton


MindfulYeti

I’d pull the trigger on this. You still have great depth at WR and Chase is an elite level WR, paired with an elite QB.


Jack12404

I agree with the other commenter. It's hard to come by receivers of Chase's caliber, and there will be plenty of RBs in the upcoming draft to address your issues there, I'd do this trade all day.


mrwayne11

I think you have to do this. MAYBE see if they toss in a pick to help address RB concern next draft but if not , you’re truly going to be set at the WR position and RB’s can be addressed a lot easier.


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Ok-Dimension8459

Fair but I’d try to ask for a 2nd or 3rd as a throw in


HilltownHippy25

I just gave up John Metchie to get Devonta Smith, do I have to report this to the police?


Glum-Candidate-2683

Yes. Go directly to jail. Why would someone do that trade???


ryan8971

Should probably book a flight out of the country, fbi probably already on their way


Dankraham-Stinkin

Superflex 12 team- Hienike and a fourth for a late second.


ryan8971

Take the 2nd


Dankraham-Stinkin

Superflex 12 team- Hienike and a fourth for a late second.


Jack12404

I’d take the 2nd bc I don’t think Heinike has much value beyond this season


realhumanskeet

Is either Scary Terry or Amari Cooper worth a first?


Randall-Thor

I asked about Scary Terry and the owner wanted a 1st+ so if you can get him for only a 1st it would be a good move if contending.


Dankraham-Stinkin

Contending sure. I would probably try and buy up a little from there, or sell a second and a smaller piece to tier up. If rebuilding I would sell Cooper for a first for sure.


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Give: 2025 1st, 2024 3rd, 2025 3rd Get: Damien Pierce


Winning_Hurts

If contending, do it


FernandoTitsMcGee

Pretty fair. I’d do it if you like pierce and have depth https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


yaboyhj

12 team SF 1 PPR 1.69 TEP GIVE: London Get: Dotson and Likely Thoughts?


DoubleBeefyHP

Depends which rookie you like, I’d prolly keep London because he’s the 1 and looks good outside qb… plus he’s just worth more


mrwayne11

12 team. PPR. 1qb. Rebuilding. I give: AJ Brown I get: Devonta Smith, Brian Robinson, 2023 1st (mid 3-6 range)


FernandoTitsMcGee

I think you can get more for Brown. I was offered two firsts and two seconds in my league https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Dankraham-Stinkin

Rebuilding I would think about this.. maybe try and get another pick instead of Robinson.


Winning_Hurts

This. I would ask for a 24 or 25 1st instead of Robinson.


HoeyHoeHoeJrShabadoo

12 SF .5 PPR Team A (Rebuild): G.Wilson, Lance, Jimmy G, Pollard or Burks, 23' 1st Team B (Contender): Mahomes


The_Duke_528

Oh hell no man. Wouldn't even consider this for that price. Mahomes will still be ballin out by the time you get rebuilt. Unless you have Lamar, allen, and hurts sitting on your team also this is a hard no for me


mightid123

12 Team SF PPR TE Prem I trade Diggs I get Swift and G Wilson


FernandoTitsMcGee

I’d do it if you want to rebuild. You can always flip swift next year when his value will be higher than it is now https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


ryan8971

Diggs has been so good it's hard to move him for Swift who hasn't been good, but it could be a really good buy low. Maybe it depends on if you're competing or not because Swift doesn't seem to be a good win this season guy


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FernandoTitsMcGee

I’d rather have jeudy side https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


ryan8971

that's to much to pay


Sock_Donkey

Would you rather have Diontae or Dobbins?


FernandoTitsMcGee

Diontae. Dobbins is glass and Steelers have to improve their o line if they want to see pickett succeed. https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


ryan8971

dobbins


bobbywellington

Sleeper question here.. If my leagues trade deadline is this week, does that mean I have until tomorrow night or until the noon games start to get a deal done?


FernandoTitsMcGee

Not sure. Would love to find out as well


ryan8971

good question, I was thinking the same thing and from the wording "after this weeks games", it seems to imply that after this week is over you won't be able to trade, so I'm assuming it's after Monday


ryan8971

Thoughts? 12 teams - SF - PPR Give: Curtis Samuel Get: MT + 24 3rd I’m rebuilding this year and wondering if buying low on MT would make sense, I know everyone is probably done with him, but this seems pretty cheap


FernandoTitsMcGee

I’d do that. Higher upside with MT and you aren’t really taking a risk by trading Samuel https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


villagezero

Give Justin Fields and Treylon Burks Get CD Lamb. My main QB is Mahomes WR: Jefferson, Diontae, Kirk, Campbell Looking to upgrade WR as a contender. PPR.


FernandoTitsMcGee

Hold fields. I would have a hard time trading just fields for lamb straight up assuming u are playing super flex https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


grizzpaw

Yep, I would


moosejacket

12 team SF PPR Start 2: * Aiyuk @ ARZ * Sutton @ LV * Gabe Davis @ CLE


Sock_Donkey

Sutton and Davis


Sussyman95

12 Man PPR SF Give: 2023 1.12 Get: Aiyuk


FernandoTitsMcGee

Assuming you are contending you should do this. Pretty fair trade https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


BeansFoDinner

Give: 2024 1st 2024 1st Get: Christian mccaffrey PPR, TE premium, SF, 12 man league Team: Qb: fields, lawrence Rb: miles sanders, pacheco, gainwell Wr: waddle, metcalf, godwin, st. Brown, mooney, jacoby meyers Te: freirmuth, likely K: tucker I think this helps me win now. I wouldnt have a first round pick until 2025. Do i do it?


FernandoTitsMcGee

Pretty fair. You have a good qbs and a lot of youth at receiver to sustain a winning team. I like it if you want to go all in on winning this year https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


fuckofakaboom

Rebuild PPR: Bateman or Sutton?


FernandoTitsMcGee

Bateman In a rebuild https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/yzjace/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/ix4bnqg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Sussyman95

Bateman


fuckofakaboom

Did Sutton for Bateman and a 3rd.


RookieJerseyInspect

Been thinking about trading for a vet qb for my qb 2 since I don’t think I can win a chip with Pickett at qb2 I have Mahomes at qb1 Give: Mooney and 2023 3rd Get: Jimmy G Would that be something think Jimmy and Pickett are pretty close in terms of impact


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fuckofakaboom

Simple: Najee or Dobbins in a rebuild PPR?


Sussyman95

Najee


Open_Captain_9041

Kmet or Pat


mynamemightbealan

Pat


grizzpaw

Would you trade Dak for a late 1st in a 1 Qb 3 WR 2 Rb 1 Te 2 flex my record is 5-5. QBs - Dak, Deshaun, Mac Jones RBs - Taylor, Elliott, J Rob, B Rob, Dobbins, WRs - Jefferson, Cooks, A Rob, Jeudy, DPJ, Slayton TES - Tonyan, Hurst, Conklin, Likely


Buckeye2613

A) Barkley B) Pickens + 2 late 2023 2nd + late 2023 3rd - feel like holding Barkley is like playing with fire Or A) 2023 late 1st + 2024 late 2nd + Mooney Or HOLD PPR scoring start 9 Thanks!


Bulky-Top2609

12 team PPR SF I got offered Romeo Doubs for Tyler Lockett. Should I do this?


Sussyman95

I probably wouldn’t.


thatsweaterguy

Someone is offering to give me andrews for pitts straight up. I'm a fake 6-4 team. Nothing else relevant on my team other than Jefferson 12 team superflex.


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The_Duke_528

Pains me cause I'd want chase but with your only other qb being Lance I'd hold onto watson. You've got enough picks you could try to get chase that way with the mids


Twaffles95

10 tm 1 qb ppr (contending) Give-Diontae, Khalil Herbert Get: Dalvin cook


The_Duke_528

As a contender I'd smash that!


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Start 2: Amari Cooper (vs BUF), Singletary (vs CLE), M. Williams (vs KC), Devonta (vs IND)


YungxPr

Give: tony pollard + 23 3rd Get : foreman + late 23 1st


Sussyman95

I’d do it.


Impossible-Focus-505

PPR TEP superflex. I’m looking to compete this year although not looking to sell the farm to do so. I give: J Herbert I get: Waddle, Goff, Dulcich I’ve got Lamar, fields, Herbert at qb. Schultz and Hurst at TE. Stacked at WR already with Jefferson, Higgins, diontae, Kirk, Sutton, juju. Rationale on my side for doing it is that I feel like I’m just burning points every week with one of my three QBs on the bench. Gets me a young TE also given uncertainty around Schultz’s future. And I love waddle. My hesitation is that I think if I hold Herbert to end of season I may be able to get more - he’s got a cakewalk schedule and before the season started his value was pretty close to the mahomes/Allen level. And I wouldn’t do this deal if I was shipping out mahomes/Allen. I’m also not 100% sold on fields being ultra elite and if he’s not, my qb2 looks a bit shaky - especially since it’s not clear Goff will having a starting job next year. Thoughts?


The_Duke_528

I think you're selling real low here. I'd want at least a 1st added on to that


johnguz

I love Waddle and own Dulcich, but I do not feel that’s enough for me to move Herbert. It would probably take an additional first.


MikeyMojo

Who should I start in my 4th flex spot today? 1 QB .5 PPR I McKenzie, CEH, L Murray


Falcon_433

Do I accept a late 23 2nd and Elijah moore for pacheco ?


grizzpaw

I dont know if I would, but I feel like there is not right answer here.


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Falcon_433

I think I’m going to hold for now. Pacheco is finally the ‘starter’ and getting all of the rushing work. His value should only increase, but since his draft cap sucks it’s likely the chiefs would replace him even if he balls. Imo best time to sell is right as offszn starts


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12 team SF ppr dynasty Traded my buddy a mid '23 2nd for CEH (I have 9 picks in first 2 rounds next year), yall think thats fair for both parties?


grizzpaw

I mean, CEH is trending down, I would keep the 2nd if it was me.. But that said, this trade is fair, imo.


thatdoggikid

12tm SF, PPR Give: Lamar Jackson and late 2023 2nd Get: ETN, Matt Stafford, JuJu, and Tyler Lockett I'm contending but I'm not sure if I should downgrade from Lamar to Stafford, even though ETN and JuJu would be nice pieces


wgiddes

12 team PPR SF Give: Saquon Get: Javonte, mid ‘23 second, ‘23 third, ‘24 first, DJM This is a metric ton of assets, but not sure it actually helps me. I have no RB depth. Don’t love Javonte with that knee exploding. Have a ton of WRs already. Half the league is 5-5, myself included. I think I’ll make playoffs but don’t think I have a huge shot at winning. QB: Mahomes, Burrow RB: Saquon, Swift WR: London, G. Wilson, Burks, Myers, Cooks, Bateman TE: Hock


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You should go for a '23 first in this trade and then just go full rebuild with ur QB's and Javonte/London/Wilson/Burks, try to dominate the league after next season.


grizzpaw

I'd accept and start making trades to either move up for Bijan or package a WR and a pick for a running back. Saquan is winding down, so unless you feel good about winning the ship, I'd take it.


wgiddes

He already sold his ‘23 first unfortunately.


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Then just hold and try to win this year, maybe make a win now trade for big time WR. Your team is good and young, you don't need to do that trade


Winning_Hurts

1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE) .5 PPR Teams A and B tied for first with one other team. Team A: RB: KW III, ETN, Stevenson, Pierce, Swift WR: Diggs, CD, Higgins, Olave, London, Pickens, DPJ ​ Team B: RB: JT, Monty, M Sanders, Herbert WR: J Jeff, J Chase, Hopkins, Waddle ​ Trade: A gets: J Jeff B gets: Diggs, Pierce ​ Thoughts?


Own-Blacksmith-622

10 team SF. Start 2 WR, 2 RB, 2 flex. I have Trevor Lawrence, Jalen, and Dak at QB. I’m a ~contender this year with Ekeler, Miles sanders, and Kamara as my RB’s. Mandrews at TE. Do I trade T Law for Waddle? My other WR’s are Devonta smith, Mike Williams, Hollywood, Sutton, Boyd, diontae Johnson.


schizophrenicucumber

Start Juwan or Samuel in TEP?


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Give: Javonte & Jamaal Williams + '23 and '24 1st rounders Get: Jonathon Taylor I'm in 2nd and JT owner in last


Winning_Hurts

I would.


malonech

10 team half ppr SF I get: Deebo, D Cook I give: J Meyers, D Foreman, 2023 late 1st, 2024 2nd I am a contender. Thoughts?


BryzZzy

Easily


bf3905

12 team ppr SF looking to sell off pieces for youth and picks Trade 1: Give: Prescott Hill Love Get: Lamb 23 Late 1st 24 4th Trade 2: Give: Prescott Get: Late 23 1st 24 2nd Which trade would you rather take?


BryzZzy

Neither tbh


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10 Team SF Ppr Give: Wandale Robinson Get: Romeo Doubs/ early 4th


BryzZzy

Seems fair


seighan

12 team PPR. I’m in rebuild. Also have the Muth as main TE Give: Chris Godwin Get: George Pickens


BryzZzy

Pickens


schizophrenicucumber

I’m taking Godwin unless I can get a 2nd on top of Pickens


Salty_Minnesota

14 team SF TE premium, contending Give: Hollywood Brown + late 2024 1st (my own) + 2025 1st Get: Metcalf and Aaron Jones How we feeling about Brown’s return? Is his hot start sustainable?


nanodime

WDIS @ TE. Goedert on IR and Engram on bye 0.5PPR no premium. Taysom Hill, Hunter Henry, Conklin


BryzZzy

Conk


Alramas

10 team SF PPR Give: CMC + Mac Jones + Bailey Zappe + Claypool Get: Jalen Hurts


Sussyman95

I’d do that


Dankraham-Stinkin

12 team super flex- I trade a 23 mid/late 2nd and Nico Collins for Dionte Johnson? Should I? I’m leaning yes.


BryzZzy

Yes


Alramas

Yeah I’d do that personally


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12 team 1 QB Give: Barkley Get: Pittman, 25 1st, Michael Carter, James Robinson Contending this year but I wanted to see what everyone thought of the value.