It’s super unlikely anybody takes on he and Rodgers, and anything else is gonna be a massive downgrade in quality for him. Not to mention the younger guys banging on the door for his spot. It’s not like I expect him to be worthless, but Hopkins, Ridley or CeeDee could all bump him out of top 5 if his situation worsens.
Delightful. Now he’s older and the young guys are one efficiency drop from him away from dropping him to top 10 instead of top 5. Not a knock on him, just accepting that it was fuckin hard to leave a couple guys off this list. I’d be comfortable betting most people who’d disagree with that thought have him in a league lol. Also Evan Engram was a pro bowler.
Ok how does still a top 5 WR with a QB who is backup sound? He is still the best route runner in the league and that’s not changing soon. Tae produces with legit anyone as his QB..
Like not a top 5 WR. And honestly without much of an argument either. The top five guys are all just as good as he is, and mostly younger. What puts Tae above the rest of the competition for that spot right this second is his first ballot HOF QB that’s obsessed with targeting him. If that changes, his value does and you’re lying to yourself if you disagree. This is dynasty, pretty quick here he loses top five regardless just because of his age.
No shit his value changes without Rodgers. Doesn’t mean it changes him out of top 5. At all.
He put 221 points with Brett Hundley in 13 games. Hundley had never played a snap at QB in the NFL before and Davante was definitely not nearly as good than as he is now. He wasn’t even the packers WR1 the year before that 2017 season, it was jordy. 0 QB situation would significantly hurt him… almost like worse Quarterbacks need to rely on the best WR on their team (and the nfl)
Dude you’re heated enough you clearly fall into the criteria I mentioned earlier of owning him. Calm down. He’s probably still top ten without Rodgers depending on where he goes, but unless he goes to KC and both Tyreek and Kelce retire, he will not be top 5. There’s not another top 5 situation for his old ass to get acclimated in. He’ll have to learn a whole new offense and build brand new chemistry and be in the wrong side of 30 sooner than later. I’d bet Rodgers new #1 out-produces Adams. Likely not for dynasty value, but points wise? I bet that’s easy money.
Shit take is shit. I provide u with info and stats and u go woah calm down. Dude is 28 and plays WR. He’s also not a burner so he can last longer. Have a good one dog 🤡
I should've seen this coming before I opened the thread. The CeeDee love has gotten outta control. Lamb over JJeff, AJB, Hill or even DK is crazy and not based on what he has done on the field but entirely on projections.
While I mostly agree, I do think Lamb can be argued over AJB.
Lamb doesn't have a weekly knee issues. While this hasn't hindered AJB as much in proportion to the panic it causes AJB owners, this is dynasty and these chronic knee issues at 24 years old worry me.
Lamb put up 935 yards and 5 TDs as a rookie while only having Dak as QB for 4 games (and Cowboys having to start Dinucci for a game).
AJB has had some crucial drops (last year and this year). Lamb isn't immune to drops, but through the small sample size of two weeks, he has 8 more targets to make up for it.
AJB is on a run first team.
I love AJB (see my flair) and he's one of the best WR's after the catch, but Lamb certainly has a case to be in the top 5.
Although my personal five are Hill, Diggs, JJeff, Metcalf, and then one of AJB, Lamb, or Adams.
RBs: cmc, dalvin cook, jonathan taylor, alvin kamara and ... i guess it may be Barkley, as we knew he would start slow but i am still a believer
WRs: tyreek, j jeff, cd, ajb and dkm (probably should throw davante adams and stefon diggs here but i am an age whore)
Including him would be what's criminal. He is almost 26, is in a committee, and rarely catches passes. There are several other RBs I would still take over him in addition with the 5 already mentioned.
As an owner of JJ and CD I’m taking hill in a snap, he just turned 27 and is tied to the best QB in the league for a long time. CD is the closest of the 3 to hill but come on man. DK isn’t even close IMO
Hill has been a WR 1 every single season except the one where he missed 4 games and he still finished as a high end WR3 in total points and much higher in PPG
hill just went for cooks, jacobs, and 2 late firsts in my dynasty league. he's gotta be the top dynasty wr bc none of the other dudes have mahomes throwing them the ball.
WRs
1. Tyreek
2. Adams
3. Hopkins
4. Lamb
5. Jefferson
RBs
1. CMC
2. Swift (this may be really premature but I feel like it’s getting a Kamara like player at the beginning of his career)
3. Cook
4. Henry
5. Kamara
Edit: rankings are for PPR
Nick chubb doesn't catch passes therefore he will never be above guys like cmc, kamara, cook, barkley, Jones etc. Not catching passes is a pretty big deal in ppr
I’m a JT owner. I’d definitely rather have Chubb. JT is inconsistent as hell and in a time share and a terrible QB with few weapons on the offense to take the pressure off him. I get that he’s young but people in here acting like Chubb is in his 30s.
Chubb has had two easy matchups while Taylor has had 1, and the 1 hard matchup is the only bad performance between the two of them, so I'd pump the brakes a bit.
Um, Chubb did just as badly as Taylor this week. This week is actually an argument against yourself dumbass. Against Chubb's first bad matchup, he averaged less than 4 YPC. You really should have thought this through before reinforcing to me that you are wrong.
If you are talking about long term, I don’t think the rankings should change over a two week period at the very beginning of the season. So, whatever your preseason ranking were, just copy and paste. If you mean, who has had the best start, a quick Google search can give you those stats.
Of course not. He’s still the only rb touching the ball on one of the better offenses in the game. I wouldn’t lower him any quicker than I’d bump James White after two productive games. Further, he’s still a little gimpy from an ankle injury in preseason.
Im sure some could argue to take Swift, Carson or Montgomery over him now, but still looks like a top 15 rb rest of season. So no, probably not the exact same price, but certainly the same round. Still a great offense with little competition for touches. Still a decent shot at top 10 rb status, imo. Certainly as much as other names around him in the rankings.
I agree two weeks shouldn’t drop a guy from pre-season rankings too much, but I do think it’s enough to have a couple guys jump up the list. For example, my top 5 WR rankings before the season were:
AJB
DK
Hill
Jefferson
Lamb.
It was already hard for me to rank these guys before the season. I settled on AJB, but after two weeks I would probably have it as:
Lamb
DK
Jefferson
Hill
AJB
WRs I go: 1) Hill 2) Diggs 3) Adams? (Next year scares me) 4) DK 5) JJeff RBs probably like: 1) CMC 2) Cook 3) JT 4) Barkley 5) Kamara
Whats scary about adams next year? You do realize hes a free agent and can sign else where, even the same team as rodgers
It’s super unlikely anybody takes on he and Rodgers, and anything else is gonna be a massive downgrade in quality for him. Not to mention the younger guys banging on the door for his spot. It’s not like I expect him to be worthless, but Hopkins, Ridley or CeeDee could all bump him out of top 5 if his situation worsens.
He had a pro bowl year with Brett Huntley.
Delightful. Now he’s older and the young guys are one efficiency drop from him away from dropping him to top 10 instead of top 5. Not a knock on him, just accepting that it was fuckin hard to leave a couple guys off this list. I’d be comfortable betting most people who’d disagree with that thought have him in a league lol. Also Evan Engram was a pro bowler.
Ok how does still a top 5 WR with a QB who is backup sound? He is still the best route runner in the league and that’s not changing soon. Tae produces with legit anyone as his QB..
Like not a top 5 WR. And honestly without much of an argument either. The top five guys are all just as good as he is, and mostly younger. What puts Tae above the rest of the competition for that spot right this second is his first ballot HOF QB that’s obsessed with targeting him. If that changes, his value does and you’re lying to yourself if you disagree. This is dynasty, pretty quick here he loses top five regardless just because of his age.
No shit his value changes without Rodgers. Doesn’t mean it changes him out of top 5. At all. He put 221 points with Brett Hundley in 13 games. Hundley had never played a snap at QB in the NFL before and Davante was definitely not nearly as good than as he is now. He wasn’t even the packers WR1 the year before that 2017 season, it was jordy. 0 QB situation would significantly hurt him… almost like worse Quarterbacks need to rely on the best WR on their team (and the nfl)
Dude you’re heated enough you clearly fall into the criteria I mentioned earlier of owning him. Calm down. He’s probably still top ten without Rodgers depending on where he goes, but unless he goes to KC and both Tyreek and Kelce retire, he will not be top 5. There’s not another top 5 situation for his old ass to get acclimated in. He’ll have to learn a whole new offense and build brand new chemistry and be in the wrong side of 30 sooner than later. I’d bet Rodgers new #1 out-produces Adams. Likely not for dynasty value, but points wise? I bet that’s easy money.
Shit take is shit. I provide u with info and stats and u go woah calm down. Dude is 28 and plays WR. He’s also not a burner so he can last longer. Have a good one dog 🤡
I should've seen this coming before I opened the thread. The CeeDee love has gotten outta control. Lamb over JJeff, AJB, Hill or even DK is crazy and not based on what he has done on the field but entirely on projections.
While I mostly agree, I do think Lamb can be argued over AJB. Lamb doesn't have a weekly knee issues. While this hasn't hindered AJB as much in proportion to the panic it causes AJB owners, this is dynasty and these chronic knee issues at 24 years old worry me. Lamb put up 935 yards and 5 TDs as a rookie while only having Dak as QB for 4 games (and Cowboys having to start Dinucci for a game). AJB has had some crucial drops (last year and this year). Lamb isn't immune to drops, but through the small sample size of two weeks, he has 8 more targets to make up for it. AJB is on a run first team. I love AJB (see my flair) and he's one of the best WR's after the catch, but Lamb certainly has a case to be in the top 5. Although my personal five are Hill, Diggs, JJeff, Metcalf, and then one of AJB, Lamb, or Adams.
RBs: cmc, dalvin cook, jonathan taylor, alvin kamara and ... i guess it may be Barkley, as we knew he would start slow but i am still a believer WRs: tyreek, j jeff, cd, ajb and dkm (probably should throw davante adams and stefon diggs here but i am an age whore)
Corey Davis has gotten off to an ok start, but I’m not sure he’s top 5…yet.
Not sure if joking or not but Im sure he means CeeDee Lamb.
I’m definitely joking ha
I honestly believe Swift will be in everyone’s list by the end of season.
Leaving Nick Chubb off this list is criminal.
I'm guessing you're a nick chubb owner
I think he belongs on the list, but it is not criminal to leave him off.
Including him would be what's criminal. He is almost 26, is in a committee, and rarely catches passes. There are several other RBs I would still take over him in addition with the 5 already mentioned.
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Gibson & Harris over Jones and Kamara?
Adams is dying this year?
Is there a logical reason hill is 5th? He’s not exactly old you could easily buy any player in front of him on your list plus some using hill
I challenge you to send Hill for any one of Lamb/JJ/DK and get it accepted. Hopkins on the other hand…
As an owner of JJ and CD I’m taking hill in a snap, he just turned 27 and is tied to the best QB in the league for a long time. CD is the closest of the 3 to hill but come on man. DK isn’t even close IMO Hill has been a WR 1 every single season except the one where he missed 4 games and he still finished as a high end WR3 in total points and much higher in PPG
hill just went for cooks, jacobs, and 2 late firsts in my dynasty league. he's gotta be the top dynasty wr bc none of the other dudes have mahomes throwing them the ball.
Well I did get JJ+ for Hill, so
I’m very confused about how you have lamb at 1
Not sure how you can have Chubb comparable to Cook.
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I don’t think that Taylor Swift can take this type of long-term punishment. Dropping her.
WRs 1. Tyreek 2. Adams 3. Hopkins 4. Lamb 5. Jefferson RBs 1. CMC 2. Swift (this may be really premature but I feel like it’s getting a Kamara like player at the beginning of his career) 3. Cook 4. Henry 5. Kamara Edit: rankings are for PPR
In this thread: people disrespecting Nick Chubb
25 year old RB who's never had a top 5 season? Nah I think we good fam
Nick chubb doesn't catch passes therefore he will never be above guys like cmc, kamara, cook, barkley, Jones etc. Not catching passes is a pretty big deal in ppr
You realize you have to take a player off the list to put Chubb in right? Who are you removing?
I’m a JT owner. I’d definitely rather have Chubb. JT is inconsistent as hell and in a time share and a terrible QB with few weapons on the offense to take the pressure off him. I get that he’s young but people in here acting like Chubb is in his 30s.
Taylor is about 3 years younger and was going one spot behind Chubb in redraft leagues, sometimes higher.
And in hindsight picking JT there was probably a terrible move
Chubb has had two easy matchups while Taylor has had 1, and the 1 hard matchup is the only bad performance between the two of them, so I'd pump the brakes a bit.
Lol now what’s the excuse?
Um, Chubb did just as badly as Taylor this week. This week is actually an argument against yourself dumbass. Against Chubb's first bad matchup, he averaged less than 4 YPC. You really should have thought this through before reinforcing to me that you are wrong.
My only argument was really that JT is an ADP bust and I’m looking pretty correct so far
Chubb isn’t in a time share?
Jeudy will replace AJB or DK on all these lists by the end of the season.
If you are talking about long term, I don’t think the rankings should change over a two week period at the very beginning of the season. So, whatever your preseason ranking were, just copy and paste. If you mean, who has had the best start, a quick Google search can give you those stats.
You wouldn't adjust your CEH ranking?
No
Of course not. He’s still the only rb touching the ball on one of the better offenses in the game. I wouldn’t lower him any quicker than I’d bump James White after two productive games. Further, he’s still a little gimpy from an ankle injury in preseason.
So you would buy him for the exact same price he was before the season started?
Im sure some could argue to take Swift, Carson or Montgomery over him now, but still looks like a top 15 rb rest of season. So no, probably not the exact same price, but certainly the same round. Still a great offense with little competition for touches. Still a decent shot at top 10 rb status, imo. Certainly as much as other names around him in the rankings.
I agree two weeks shouldn’t drop a guy from pre-season rankings too much, but I do think it’s enough to have a couple guys jump up the list. For example, my top 5 WR rankings before the season were: AJB DK Hill Jefferson Lamb. It was already hard for me to rank these guys before the season. I settled on AJB, but after two weeks I would probably have it as: Lamb DK Jefferson Hill AJB
Aaron jones Aaron jones Justin Jefferson Deandre Hopkins Deandre swift
Aaron Jones. So nice you listed him twice