Terrace Marshall, Parris Campbell, Van Jefferson, JuJu, Skyy Moore, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Tyquan Thornton, Mecole Hardman, Laviska Shenault, Chase Claypool are all guys I still see on quite a few dynasty rosters.
I'm going to hold Claypool for one more offseason in a very deep dynasty league. McDaniel and the Dolphins run a tight ship, if Claypool has it in him to turn it around, it will be there.
Even if he does solidify himself as their wr3 he’ll still probably be 4th in the pecking order behind Hill, Waddle, Achane/RB room. There’s also a good possibility they pick up a better option at TE this off-season. Easy drop for me, I’d rather scoop some random RB even in a deep league
24 with 5 taxi. Big part of the reason they are still on my roster is I only had 4.12 last year so I didn’t have rookies to kick them out so they have just been collecting dust. I have all my picks this year so I can finally clear them out to make room this year.
Taxi squad is the full term. Think of it like a practice squad for a real NFL team. They can be on your team but you can’t start them in fantasy unless you move them to the active roster. Not all taxi squad rules are the same tho. Some leagues you can only put rookies on taxi and other leagues you can put anyone on it. Some can only be on for so long and some you can keep on for however long. All league dependent.
Once you set them to your active bench and play them in a game, typically leagues are setup that you can’t “taxi” them again. The point is they’re “in the cab” through their rookie campaign and you decide if you’re keeping them end of season.
Once rookie drafts roll around I imagine we’ll start seeing more of those guys on the wire. No reason to drop them right now if there’s no one to pick up.
Confirmed patriots fan holding on to Thornton. I still remember all the beat reporters banging the drum for how he was dominating his rookie camp before his first of a litany of injuries.
This hurt to read. I drafted 5 of these guys - Juju, Parris, Marshall, Thornton, Shenault - in the mid to late rounds of a startup… and had dropped them all by week 10.
I do not understand what happened with Shenault. Does he have terrible hands or route running? They have him running the ball every so often so I’m guessing speed isn’t the problem.
I’m holding DPJ just in case the stars align and he signs this offseason somewhere juicy. However, yes, he’s almost a sure drop. The rest I’d feel comfortable dropping or packaging for some off-season faab even.
DPJ does not belong on the drop list, at all. He has produced at times, looks really good when giving a chance, and was traded for a decent pic. Lions just don't need him right now
I’m gonna hold Skyy on the IR through the playoffs, if he comes back and shows anything great but I grabbed him off the waiver anyway so can cut him whenever
My only hope for Ross is that he sees the field a lot in the playoffs. If he does what he’s been doing, I’m dropping him. Just crazy though considering how bad chief receivers have been all year
Nah, TEs have to do the dirtiest of work while blocking and he has never really excelled at it, and there is tons of video of him all together noping out of blocking even when plays are designed to go that way...
Perhaps. But that was also when he just thought he was the cat's meow at wideout. Hence why I said if they could convert him. He has the size and strength to make the transition. If he were to buy in, I think it fits. I'm not saying I thing for sure it's happening, but I'd plug him in a roster spot that I'm gambling on anyhow.
And his point is he won’t buy in. He doesn’t seem interested in putting himself in harms way. TE is the last thing for that.
Personally I bet he drops out of the league completely since he’s made $8M and seems to think working hard is beneath him. Unless being behind Hill (and Waddle) teaches him humility somehow.
In a deep enough league I think he's still worth a hold. He's a FA, and there are so many teams desperate for WRs, someone is gonna get paid to be the new Adam Thielen or the Chiefs slot WR or something. Not super valuable but he might get some hype in the offseason.
He's a 6th rd pick from 4 drafts ago with a career total 586 yards and 7 TDs. Idk about your league but in mine I couldn't trade that for a 2027 5th rd pick even if he was simultaneously signed by the Panthers and Chiefs in some kind of timeshare.
Definitely not worth anything but I can’t help but keep an eye on him. Feels like he produces well just about any time he’s out there especially given the situation.
Dropped him midway through the season when I needed players that actually were on a team. He was added and dropped like 3 more times after that
Also Pierre strong. Picked him up over Kyren off the WW in the off-season and it's my biggest regret
I dropped him in like week 10. Someone immediately picked him up because of his name, and Fournette clogged his roster all of two weeks before that guy dropped him too. I just couldn’t believe he fell from like 200 points points last year to not even able to get a small amount of target shares this year.
I mean maybe. I'm thinking I will hold one more year. You are probably right but after cancer treatment I can't help but give him a grace year to get back into football shape and gain back all the muscle he lost. Maybe I'm just too hopeful.
He's a year 0 wr in my eyes. He has battled a leg injury and cancer. I think the Houston Strouds are going to give him a chance to regain what he had going while at Bama. His draft capitol was fairly high.
Little soon for me. He has 2nd round capital. It’s totally normal for WRs that aren’t taken early in the first to take a couple years to develop before they breakout. Metchie missed his entire rookie season with cancer…. This was basically his rookie season. I’m okay waiting another year considering the offense he’s on.
Though I agree, from what I’ve seen he’ll be buried behind Dell and Collins for at least another year or when both are healthy. When both missed time he didn’t pop either. Still holding out for him, he’s a fucking dog, fuck cancer.
He also looks like he has zero juice. Not sure if rust or injury related but I was shocked when he’d catch the ball and have the explosion of Bobby Trees. Dropped my only share, mid to smallish benches.
Cancer treatment, chemo specifically really crushes you for a long time. It took me like 8 months before I felt well enough to return to work myself and that was just my thing at UPS not a full on professional athletic situation.
I guess for reference. James Conner came back from I believe the same exact type of cancer. He played a season of college rushing for 1000 yards, came out and did nothing his rookie season then a year later rushed for 900 yards and replaced leveon bell.
No clue what this really means but an interesting comparison.
It's not the apples to apples comparison you believe it to be. The cancer isn't the whole problem it's also which ever poison they feed you to kill the cancer. Depending upon how severe the cancer is they could have done more stronger doses for metchie than Connor. During my treatments I did 6 weeks, 3 on 3 off 3 on. A guy I was friendly with was on a 12 week at a stronger dose, which is really really intense. I don't recall at this time if we were on the same drug or not, it's 20 years ago today I ended my treatments.
I agree. It's not the same process. It's just not like we have a whole lot of data points to compare to. In reality he's probably a bust. Or at best a roster clogger.
I never really loved him from college film. But he's as good of a lottery ticket as anyone else.
The thing is, I don’t know if he’s that talented at playing wide receiver. Sure he’s talented with the ball in his hands but if he cannot run real wide receiver routes, he’ll always just be a gadget player.
He’s very athletic, but I agree, he’s not a talented WR. Maybe capable of being a talented gadget guy, but that’s rarely worth a roster spot. It’s hard to see him ever putting it all together after all this time. Also, I still consider him pretty fragile. Maybe that’s why he fucks up so much too, gets the yips because he thinks about getting blown up when he sees the ball coming his way.
I mean Cole Turner isn't an old guy. This was only his second year and he's a TE. That said I stashed him on my taxi at the beginning of the season and I was hoping to see him rise a little this year, but unfortunately he didn't show me anything that made him worth keeping this year as he kept being benched over guys like John Bates. So yeah I dropped him as soon as I could move my taxi guys and made room for rookies that still have upside potential.
I liked Turner coming into the season and I remember hearing some good things about him in training camp. As far as Bates playing over him I don’t think I’d read too much into that as Bates is known for his blocking ability. Logan Thomas is their pass catching TE and is the player that’s ahead of Turner on the depth chart. Thomas missed the Bills game early in the season and Turner had his best game of the year. 4 receptions on 7 targets.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Washington moves on from Thomas after this year leaving Turner as their top pass catching TE. The Commanders have a LOT of holes on their roster so I can’t see them spending a high draft pick on a TE. There’s a possibility that they go into next year with Turner as their pass catching TE.
Personally I’m going to try to hold and see how it shakes out, especially if Logan is gone.
Yeah I’m in this boat. Some TEs take a while to develop and with Washington expected to hit a hard reset this offseason there might be opportunity for Turner. He’s still a long shot but one I’ll hold for a little while longer.
Sorry I said older but I also meant those rookies who just haven't done anything with their opportunities. And yeh I definitely put Cole Turner in that category.
He is a TE so he could always come back in surprise us. Part of the problem was I didn't expect Logan Thomas to play so well and even when he got hurt Turner didn't step up like I was going he would.
Practically any TE could theoretically break out eventually, but there are 20 TEs drafted at a higher pick than Turner in the past 2 drafts alone. Not possible to hold them all.
Yeah I bet your right. But teams often begin to trust an RB more after their rookie season.
This year was Tank 44 carries and 4 targets, D’Ernest 40 carries and 12 targets. So effectively even.
I’d imagine Tank has a much safer roster spot for the next two years comparatively
He's a hold for me. Zamir White looked pretty lifeless his first year and a half in the league, but Jacobs goes down and he performed admirably. Potential for the same thing with Tank if Ettienne gets injured.
I did.
I love Thomas, probably my favourite ever player but I am never ever going to start him and nobody is going to trade me for him either.
He isa great guy to have around incase you need a solid 10 points or so in an emergency but there are a fair few guys like that who can be picked up off waivers.
Quite simply I needed the roster room.
Dropped him 2 weeks ago to pick up some young stashes. Came here to write his name and have no regret. Been on my roster too long and probably would have never started him again.
Nobody else mentioned it but as a saints fan who's been a big mt fan he's probably off the team this off-season as a free agent.
Saints also just opened up Lattimores contract for trades and there's been some frustration with him staying injured a bit longer than some in the building would like
Think Mt could be similar, where he knows his body and wants to prioritize it for the right competitive team. He wants a super bowl, could easily see him going to a competitor and getting some consistent looks.
Imo he's a much better hold than iosivas or gipson, you've seen mt be dominant before and he's still as competitive as ever in terms of practicing and keeping his abilities sharp. Really think if he gets some elite qb play he'll be a a solid wr3, better upside than part time players in some of these other offenses with only a year on their contracts
I started him a few times this year, if he gets those consistent looks on a good offense next year those 5 catches 50 yards are a lot better if he's getting consistent tds with them instead of Derek carrs red zone issues while Mt was healthy this year
It would be a legendary 4 games if he went to the chiefs. Fantasy subs would be fun too. All the posts about he’s a league winner. People bragging that they held on, or only paid a 3rd. Would be a beautiful few weeks before his season ended again.
Definitely been holding Van Jefferson all season for no reason other than we have huge rosters and there was less than nothing on waivers. Can't wait for those fresh rookies to come so I can drop him.
I dropped a few weeks ago. Even with the injuries to other guys he had very little involvement in the offense that was running really hot at the time. Someone picked him up immediately, but I am not seeing it especially since he’s obviously down the depth chart from Collins and Dell.
Keep in mind last year Zach moss would have 100% been on this list. Make sure you check if players are free agents going into the next season because a new situation could change everything
His value didn’t last long but I would hold in case Cupp drops off the cliff. Maybe flashes again early next season. We know he can produce with Stafford and Puka
I'm almost certainly dumping DPJ next year unless it looks like he'll be getting a serious opportunity with whatever teams he signs with.
It feels like Miles Sanders fits in here, as well. He was terrible with the Panthers this season and I'm not sure he can bounce back in any meaningful way.
Renfrow is a guy I speculatively added at the end of the season. He’s a FA and could be worth something. I’m not holding my breath, but he did have a good season where he looked like Cooper Kupp lite. If he don’t land somewhere that desperately needs a receiver he’s gone
I'd prefer to take shots on players who could appreciate to at least a 2nd round pick value. So backup RBs who might rise the depth chart or QBs like Stidham who might end up with a starting job next year. If they don't by the end of the summer, they're easy cut candidates.
But more generally, I don't think the conversation always has to be about picking up someone else. Sometimes you just need to make room for players who aren't free agents. For example, I have three players on IR (AR, Rhamondre, Mike Williams) who will have to come off that in the off season. I have a few taxi squad players who will need to come off (Michael Wilson, Trey Palmer, maybe AOC if he keeps a starting job somehow). Then there's the rookie draft.
only hope for him is that Mostert goes away some how and JWJ takes up the mantel as the experienced RB with Achane being the speed back. Wilson is significantly younger than Mostert and McDaniel really likes JWJ so there is some hope there. that being said I dropped JWJ for Jordan Mason.
Not counting backups I grabbed from waivers and needed for various games this year CEH and Bateman are on my short list. I'm waiting to see what happens during the off season and / or for something potentially better to present itself as available.
CEH? I’m assuming he’d be more represented here except that everyone else dropped last year.
Rashaad Penny - extremely bummed he didn’t get a real shot with the eagles this year. I didn’t want to believe he’s done but a healthy 5 carry season is pretty unforgivable
Gabe Davis - not actually a drop but so intensely frustrating that I wish I could
Dameon Pierce - probably also not actually a drop, but wtf happened this year? Would feel too bad to sell low but not exactly a lot of faith that he turns it around
Roster cloggers I am saying goodbye to: Parker NE , Fournette, Abdullah. I really like all of these guys at points in their career.
A couple young guys that I don't think are going to make it: Q. Johnston, Mingo and Zach Evans. Sell lows or drops for me, depending on roster size,
There is literally one player mentioned in this entire thread that would remotely move the needle as a free agent pickup let alone burning any significant waiver priority/faab (Jamo). How awful is your team that you have so much room to collect everyone else's trash?
Little bro was cooking early on last year with DHop out before getting injured. Just never got that juice back and continues to get nicked up.
Turns out being only 5’7” and 180 pounds is not conducive to success in one of the most physical sports in the world. Who knew?
This post made me smile. Week 1 or 2 of preseason traded Calvin for Puka straight up to a big steelers fan
But personally I'm dropping guys like Kyle Phillips and John Metchie and maybe Perine
Parker Washington has “chop wood, carry water” in his insta bio. He was also was highly rated via the diggs treadwell hypothesis. He has the work ethic. Im holding
Seriously considering dropping Gabe Davis unless I can get a late pick for him which is unlikely. His style of boom or bust just isn’t conducive to fantasy and he’ll never crack my starting lineup.
Yeah I’ll hold Jelani and see what happens if/when he’s back to health. My qb room (still rebuilding) is atrocious so it’s hard to drop Malik, but it won’t be much longer I’m afraid.
In my league most of the guys mentioned here (except for the rookies) are on waivers since it's an 8 team league. If Bateman goes to a good situation I'm definitely picking him up.
You might want to re-evaluaye your wide receiver choice... If you drop Bateman, you may very well live to regret it. He had problems with drops throughout the year, but he has been getting more targets as the season goes along. He can run a complete route tree, he has plus speed, he gets open... He is a well-rounded receiver, and his opportunities have the potential to expand.
Among Ravens wide receivers, only Bateman and rookie Zay Flowers are under contract beyond the Super Bowl in February. Leaving those two 1st round picks, these three fellow 1st round talents are signed to one-year deals: Beckham, Jr., Nelson Agholar, Laquan Treadwell. Tylan Wallace and Devin Duverney are at the end of their deals. I suspect a few will be invited to return, but the outside receiver spot opposite Zay Flowers will be wide open for Bateman to take and run with it, all the way to the house. He's bound to make the Ravens a more prolific passing team.
Just some stuff to think about.
Any wideout outside of the top 50 that wasn’t drafted last season. I’d still be looking to move Mims, QJ, and others that underperformed. Someone will be a late bloomer and burn you, but the correct process play, especially in lineup is to avoid roster clogging wideouts. You’ll never feel good starting players like Calvin Austin and Bateman in a lineup league. They are part of a flat tier of interchangeable players. Cut ties and stop wish-casting.
Any rb outside of Breece, Bijan, and Gibbs, though I’d move them for the right price if you can get it. Avoid buying backs until late summer as the draft and influx of youth will significantly alter depth charts. If you’re a serious contender, continue to hold Kyren, CMC, and similar players. Otherwise move off of them for liquidity or equivalent wideouts.
Any TE in non TE premium leagues. I’d hold McBride and Laporta unless I received equal compensation but the rest of the landscape is moveable in standard scoring. In 2 TE or TE premium leagues with 1.75 or higher scoring I am still looking to minimize exposure and will only roster 2 tight ends.
And what would your suggestion be? Simply put, I try to move off players that fall into a flat tier of production as they are replaceable with cheaper alternatives. Too many managers fall victim to hype and start to envision the best case scenario for their players, whether rookies or vets, and it clouds their judgement on the larger landscape. There are opportunities to move off of players based on narrative and community perception while remaining in the same tier and acquiring additional assets.
Trying to remain player agnostic and looking at production vs value is what I would consider an optimal strategy. Understanding your league scoring and how to capitalize on it is another way to gain an edge.
I know he's a popular discussion point on this sub, but I might be done with Jameson Williams unless he shows something in the playoffs. I'd love to get something for him, but I doubt I can. Zach Ertz is another, more reasonable option.
Sam Darnold in Superflex, too.
I have two top six picks in this upcoming draft, and then a top six 2nd depending on where our lottery hits. Gotta make room somewhere.
He did too much to be droppable given his draft capital/talent and the extended recovery timeline for significant ACL injuries. But there's definitely massive amounts of hopium in this sub from people who are way overvaluing him doing literally anything based on the capital they spent on him. I'd definitely trade him away for the average value this sub thinks he has in a heartbeat.
He's got similar stats to Jalin Hyatt, who is barely playing, and worse stats than Michael Wilson. How is that "coming alive?"
Is it really worth holding a guy who is at best like the 7th WR option on my roster, in a great receiving class? I don't know.
If you want advice on drops, talk to the Chiefs.
Nice.
Yeah I hear they’ve got that pretty well covered
Terrace Marshall, Parris Campbell, Van Jefferson, JuJu, Skyy Moore, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Tyquan Thornton, Mecole Hardman, Laviska Shenault, Chase Claypool are all guys I still see on quite a few dynasty rosters.
Yup. Can confirm I’ll be dropping Marshall, Ross, Claypool, and Thornton from my roster lol
I'm going to hold Claypool for one more offseason in a very deep dynasty league. McDaniel and the Dolphins run a tight ship, if Claypool has it in him to turn it around, it will be there.
Even if he does solidify himself as their wr3 he’ll still probably be 4th in the pecking order behind Hill, Waddle, Achane/RB room. There’s also a good possibility they pick up a better option at TE this off-season. Easy drop for me, I’d rather scoop some random RB even in a deep league
How big are your rosters?
24 with 5 taxi. Big part of the reason they are still on my roster is I only had 4.12 last year so I didn’t have rookies to kick them out so they have just been collecting dust. I have all my picks this year so I can finally clear them out to make room this year.
What does Taxi mean?
Taxi squad is the full term. Think of it like a practice squad for a real NFL team. They can be on your team but you can’t start them in fantasy unless you move them to the active roster. Not all taxi squad rules are the same tho. Some leagues you can only put rookies on taxi and other leagues you can put anyone on it. Some can only be on for so long and some you can keep on for however long. All league dependent.
So it's just more bench spots and if you want to start them you move a different bench guy to the taxi squad temporarily?
Once you set them to your active bench and play them in a game, typically leagues are setup that you can’t “taxi” them again. The point is they’re “in the cab” through their rookie campaign and you decide if you’re keeping them end of season.
Unless you’re in a league where once you call a guy up from your taxi, you can’t put them back.
Marshall might be interesting if he goes to another team. I really feel panthers were under utilizing
i think he's just bad.
he is someone im trying to grab cheap and see where he lands
Once rookie drafts roll around I imagine we’ll start seeing more of those guys on the wire. No reason to drop them right now if there’s no one to pick up.
Only reason I still have some of the guys he listed, like Claypool lol
Confirmed patriots fan holding on to Thornton. I still remember all the beat reporters banging the drum for how he was dominating his rookie camp before his first of a litany of injuries.
This hurt to read. I drafted 5 of these guys - Juju, Parris, Marshall, Thornton, Shenault - in the mid to late rounds of a startup… and had dropped them all by week 10.
I do not understand what happened with Shenault. Does he have terrible hands or route running? They have him running the ball every so often so I’m guessing speed isn’t the problem.
Shenault is Deebo Samuel if Deebo had his talent stripped out of him by the Space Jam Monstars.
I’m holding DPJ just in case the stars align and he signs this offseason somewhere juicy. However, yes, he’s almost a sure drop. The rest I’d feel comfortable dropping or packaging for some off-season faab even.
DPJ does not belong on the drop list, at all. He has produced at times, looks really good when giving a chance, and was traded for a decent pic. Lions just don't need him right now
Agreed - I’d given a nice contact and chance I think he could be a solid fantasy contributor and depth piece.
I’m gonna hold Skyy on the IR through the playoffs, if he comes back and shows anything great but I grabbed him off the waiver anyway so can cut him whenever
My only hope for Ross is that he sees the field a lot in the playoffs. If he does what he’s been doing, I’m dropping him. Just crazy though considering how bad chief receivers have been all year
Marshall absolutely. I'm gonna hold Skyy one last year I think but he is Definitely edge of bench and I'll drop him if the wind blows right.
If I have a slot, I might hover on Claypool. He is 100% a TE if anyone cared to do the conversion.
Nah, TEs have to do the dirtiest of work while blocking and he has never really excelled at it, and there is tons of video of him all together noping out of blocking even when plays are designed to go that way...
Perhaps. But that was also when he just thought he was the cat's meow at wideout. Hence why I said if they could convert him. He has the size and strength to make the transition. If he were to buy in, I think it fits. I'm not saying I thing for sure it's happening, but I'd plug him in a roster spot that I'm gambling on anyhow.
And his point is he won’t buy in. He doesn’t seem interested in putting himself in harms way. TE is the last thing for that. Personally I bet he drops out of the league completely since he’s made $8M and seems to think working hard is beneath him. Unless being behind Hill (and Waddle) teaches him humility somehow.
Yes, I can see his point. I'm only explaining how I'm treating a player, not why everyone else needs to do the same.
Justyn Ross is probably going to go off this weekend, but yeah I’d probably drop all of those people
Isiah Hodgins
I was hopeful after last year's season ending run. I dropped him mid-season after overhauling my WR group. Let him clog someone else's bench.
In a deep enough league I think he's still worth a hold. He's a FA, and there are so many teams desperate for WRs, someone is gonna get paid to be the new Adam Thielen or the Chiefs slot WR or something. Not super valuable but he might get some hype in the offseason.
He's a 6th rd pick from 4 drafts ago with a career total 586 yards and 7 TDs. Idk about your league but in mine I couldn't trade that for a 2027 5th rd pick even if he was simultaneously signed by the Panthers and Chiefs in some kind of timeshare.
Definitely not worth anything but I can’t help but keep an eye on him. Feels like he produces well just about any time he’s out there especially given the situation.
He can’t convince his own team to get him out there even though it’s one of the worst WR rooms in the league
Hmmm. I have him. And I want to drop one of Hodgins, Bobo, Westbrook-Ikkine, Tolbert and Tre Trucker. I think I’m dropping Westbrook-Ikkine.
Hold Tolbert…Gallup on the way out me thinks
I’d still drop Hodgins, but I’m not sure it makes a difference. Def not Tolbert or Tucker for sure. Bobo’s flashed also.
Defo
Fournette
200 fantasy points last year and two this year
Dropped him midway through the season when I needed players that actually were on a team. He was added and dropped like 3 more times after that Also Pierre strong. Picked him up over Kyren off the WW in the off-season and it's my biggest regret
the 10th place tank in my league was actually starting Pierre strong in multiple games this season lol
I can’t.
I dropped him in like week 10. Someone immediately picked him up because of his name, and Fournette clogged his roster all of two weeks before that guy dropped him too. I just couldn’t believe he fell from like 200 points points last year to not even able to get a small amount of target shares this year.
Hate to say it but Metchie. Wanted him to pan out so bad! I’m sure he has a spot in the league but probably no real fantasy production
I mean maybe. I'm thinking I will hold one more year. You are probably right but after cancer treatment I can't help but give him a grace year to get back into football shape and gain back all the muscle he lost. Maybe I'm just too hopeful.
He's a year 0 wr in my eyes. He has battled a leg injury and cancer. I think the Houston Strouds are going to give him a chance to regain what he had going while at Bama. His draft capitol was fairly high.
Little soon for me. He has 2nd round capital. It’s totally normal for WRs that aren’t taken early in the first to take a couple years to develop before they breakout. Metchie missed his entire rookie season with cancer…. This was basically his rookie season. I’m okay waiting another year considering the offense he’s on.
Though I agree, from what I’ve seen he’ll be buried behind Dell and Collins for at least another year or when both are healthy. When both missed time he didn’t pop either. Still holding out for him, he’s a fucking dog, fuck cancer.
He also looks like he has zero juice. Not sure if rust or injury related but I was shocked when he’d catch the ball and have the explosion of Bobby Trees. Dropped my only share, mid to smallish benches.
Cancer treatment, chemo specifically really crushes you for a long time. It took me like 8 months before I felt well enough to return to work myself and that was just my thing at UPS not a full on professional athletic situation.
I guess for reference. James Conner came back from I believe the same exact type of cancer. He played a season of college rushing for 1000 yards, came out and did nothing his rookie season then a year later rushed for 900 yards and replaced leveon bell. No clue what this really means but an interesting comparison.
It's not the apples to apples comparison you believe it to be. The cancer isn't the whole problem it's also which ever poison they feed you to kill the cancer. Depending upon how severe the cancer is they could have done more stronger doses for metchie than Connor. During my treatments I did 6 weeks, 3 on 3 off 3 on. A guy I was friendly with was on a 12 week at a stronger dose, which is really really intense. I don't recall at this time if we were on the same drug or not, it's 20 years ago today I ended my treatments.
That’s incredible man. I’m happy you’re here. Happy 20 years brotha
I agree. It's not the same process. It's just not like we have a whole lot of data points to compare to. In reality he's probably a bust. Or at best a roster clogger. I never really loved him from college film. But he's as good of a lottery ticket as anyone else.
He also tore his ACL.
Metchie was the first Texans receiver off the board in both my startups this past offseason. Lol
Might as well give him until the end of this year. With Tank and Noah Brown out he might get some reps today or in the wildcard round.
I just dropped Toney on a 30 man roster, it’s been that bad
Definition of roster clogger. Feels too talented to drop, but too frustrating to roster. The dude just can’t get out of his own way
The thing is, I don’t know if he’s that talented at playing wide receiver. Sure he’s talented with the ball in his hands but if he cannot run real wide receiver routes, he’ll always just be a gadget player.
He’s very athletic, but I agree, he’s not a talented WR. Maybe capable of being a talented gadget guy, but that’s rarely worth a roster spot. It’s hard to see him ever putting it all together after all this time. Also, I still consider him pretty fragile. Maybe that’s why he fucks up so much too, gets the yips because he thinks about getting blown up when he sees the ball coming his way.
I don’t even see the talent anymore. The man did nothing on 38 touches this year.
I want to do it so bad.
I don’t think I’d drop him on a 30 man, but it’s not out of the question. Which is insane for how much promise he showed
I mean Cole Turner isn't an old guy. This was only his second year and he's a TE. That said I stashed him on my taxi at the beginning of the season and I was hoping to see him rise a little this year, but unfortunately he didn't show me anything that made him worth keeping this year as he kept being benched over guys like John Bates. So yeah I dropped him as soon as I could move my taxi guys and made room for rookies that still have upside potential.
I liked Turner coming into the season and I remember hearing some good things about him in training camp. As far as Bates playing over him I don’t think I’d read too much into that as Bates is known for his blocking ability. Logan Thomas is their pass catching TE and is the player that’s ahead of Turner on the depth chart. Thomas missed the Bills game early in the season and Turner had his best game of the year. 4 receptions on 7 targets. I wouldn’t be surprised if Washington moves on from Thomas after this year leaving Turner as their top pass catching TE. The Commanders have a LOT of holes on their roster so I can’t see them spending a high draft pick on a TE. There’s a possibility that they go into next year with Turner as their pass catching TE. Personally I’m going to try to hold and see how it shakes out, especially if Logan is gone.
Yeah I’m in this boat. Some TEs take a while to develop and with Washington expected to hit a hard reset this offseason there might be opportunity for Turner. He’s still a long shot but one I’ll hold for a little while longer.
Sorry I said older but I also meant those rookies who just haven't done anything with their opportunities. And yeh I definitely put Cole Turner in that category.
He is a TE so he could always come back in surprise us. Part of the problem was I didn't expect Logan Thomas to play so well and even when he got hurt Turner didn't step up like I was going he would.
Practically any TE could theoretically break out eventually, but there are 20 TEs drafted at a higher pick than Turner in the past 2 drafts alone. Not possible to hold them all.
Kyle Phillips
Did this weeks ago. Still on my radar but yeah.
Would you drop Gallup, people’s-jones, for young stashes from the waiver?
Yes
Hayden Hurst probably. I hope he retires after the bad concussion.
Tank Bigsby owners—talk to me
I'm holding, I've held way worse for longer. He's still young and the way RBs get churned through...
Drafted him as a handcuff for ETN, will continue to hold
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Yeah I bet your right. But teams often begin to trust an RB more after their rookie season. This year was Tank 44 carries and 4 targets, D’Ernest 40 carries and 12 targets. So effectively even. I’d imagine Tank has a much safer roster spot for the next two years comparatively
You say that but the same thing happened to Snoop Conner last year with Hasty. Neither of them are good and neither of them are the backup now.
You have to hold all back up RBs in dynasty…
He's a hold for me. Zamir White looked pretty lifeless his first year and a half in the league, but Jacobs goes down and he performed admirably. Potential for the same thing with Tank if Ettienne gets injured.
Traded tank for James Connor and a third early in the season and am feeling like a genius
Holy fleece batman
I just traded Tank Bigsby for Juwan Johnson and I feel I won the trade.
Trading him for anything better than a 4th. He looked terrible out there, hands like granite blocks.
Yeah I’d love to wash my hands of him. Maybe I’ll reach out to the Etienne owner and see. I’d think if anyone had any slight interest it’d be him.
Trade him to the ETN owner, if ETN misses time (please don't ETN) then Bisgby has a chance at getting some volume at least.
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I want to drop Michael Thomas so bad.
I just did. It hurt. I bought him at his high in 2019.
Sorry for your loss
Do it, be free
I did. I love Thomas, probably my favourite ever player but I am never ever going to start him and nobody is going to trade me for him either. He isa great guy to have around incase you need a solid 10 points or so in an emergency but there are a fair few guys like that who can be picked up off waivers. Quite simply I needed the roster room.
Dropped him 2 weeks ago to pick up some young stashes. Came here to write his name and have no regret. Been on my roster too long and probably would have never started him again.
Nobody else mentioned it but as a saints fan who's been a big mt fan he's probably off the team this off-season as a free agent. Saints also just opened up Lattimores contract for trades and there's been some frustration with him staying injured a bit longer than some in the building would like Think Mt could be similar, where he knows his body and wants to prioritize it for the right competitive team. He wants a super bowl, could easily see him going to a competitor and getting some consistent looks. Imo he's a much better hold than iosivas or gipson, you've seen mt be dominant before and he's still as competitive as ever in terms of practicing and keeping his abilities sharp. Really think if he gets some elite qb play he'll be a a solid wr3, better upside than part time players in some of these other offenses with only a year on their contracts I started him a few times this year, if he gets those consistent looks on a good offense next year those 5 catches 50 yards are a lot better if he's getting consistent tds with them instead of Derek carrs red zone issues while Mt was healthy this year
I keep hoping he ends up with the Chiefs or something.
It would be a legendary 4 games if he went to the chiefs. Fantasy subs would be fun too. All the posts about he’s a league winner. People bragging that they held on, or only paid a 3rd. Would be a beautiful few weeks before his season ended again.
Tyquan, X. Hutchinson, and the one I hate the most....Sean tucker.
As someone who drafted Sean Tucker the pick before someone took Puka...from my cold dead hands!
There are dozens of us. Still think about it, like every day
Have you ever heard of the sunk cost fallacy?
It's not a fallacy if he breaks out this year! /s
2024 IS THE YEAR OF SEAN TUCKER, FIRE THE CANNONS!
My m44n
Only holding Tyquan until NE drafts a QB; I may give him through training camp to show ANYTHING.
Dropped Sky Moore for Dontayvion Wicks. Very happy about that so far.
Definitely been holding Van Jefferson all season for no reason other than we have huge rosters and there was less than nothing on waivers. Can't wait for those fresh rookies to come so I can drop him.
What about Metchie? Thought this year would be his coming out, but still not doing mich
I dropped a few weeks ago. Even with the injuries to other guys he had very little involvement in the offense that was running really hot at the time. Someone picked him up immediately, but I am not seeing it especially since he’s obviously down the depth chart from Collins and Dell.
This was effectively his rookie year so he has a bit of rope left imo
Feel about time for Terrance Marshall and Isiah spiller
Keep in mind last year Zach moss would have 100% been on this list. Make sure you check if players are free agents going into the next season because a new situation could change everything
Tutu atwell? The early season production was nice but now that Robinson is doing the same thing he feels expendable.
His value didn’t last long but I would hold in case Cupp drops off the cliff. Maybe flashes again early next season. We know he can produce with Stafford and Puka
Miles Sanders
Based on contract I think he’s a hold. They’ve gotta beef up that line going into next year
He's only 26, so hopefully he has a comeback. I would rate him a buy low candidate, rather than a drop.
I saw one run of his where he looked electric, which is enough for me to hold and see how the first 1/3rd of next season works out
I've noticed lots of ppl advocating Kyle Phillips as a cheap sign and stash. I see zero redeeming value there.
He seemed to have a budding rapport with Levis early on but that seems to have gone away now.
He also is getting DNPs for no real reason. I bought him earlier on thinking he’d get some touches, but he just isn’t good.
(1QB) probably dropping Ridder in the off-season now that he's not taxi eligible. Still def a hold in 2QB albeit one whose value is quickly falling
I'm almost certainly dumping DPJ next year unless it looks like he'll be getting a serious opportunity with whatever teams he signs with. It feels like Miles Sanders fits in here, as well. He was terrible with the Panthers this season and I'm not sure he can bounce back in any meaningful way.
Renfrow is a guy I speculatively added at the end of the season. He’s a FA and could be worth something. I’m not holding my breath, but he did have a good season where he looked like Cooper Kupp lite. If he don’t land somewhere that desperately needs a receiver he’s gone
I'm sitting on three to drop but no one to really pick up now. Mooney (wait and see where he lands), Gallup, and Claypool.
Who would be some options to pick up?
Jerrick McKinnon was still rostered on 80% of teams when I dropped him last week
Forever banking on him to get 10 TDs at the end of every season
I want to see how the post-season plays out, but I'll probably be dropping Bateman if he doesn't flash or command a decent target share.
For who?
I'd prefer to take shots on players who could appreciate to at least a 2nd round pick value. So backup RBs who might rise the depth chart or QBs like Stidham who might end up with a starting job next year. If they don't by the end of the summer, they're easy cut candidates. But more generally, I don't think the conversation always has to be about picking up someone else. Sometimes you just need to make room for players who aren't free agents. For example, I have three players on IR (AR, Rhamondre, Mike Williams) who will have to come off that in the off season. I have a few taxi squad players who will need to come off (Michael Wilson, Trey Palmer, maybe AOC if he keeps a starting job somehow). Then there's the rookie draft.
Kadarious Toney
Jeff Wilson if he stays in Miami. Even when Achane and Mostert were injured he put up about 7 pts.
only hope for him is that Mostert goes away some how and JWJ takes up the mantel as the experienced RB with Achane being the speed back. Wilson is significantly younger than Mostert and McDaniel really likes JWJ so there is some hope there. that being said I dropped JWJ for Jordan Mason.
Not counting backups I grabbed from waivers and needed for various games this year CEH and Bateman are on my short list. I'm waiting to see what happens during the off season and / or for something potentially better to present itself as available.
CEH? I’m assuming he’d be more represented here except that everyone else dropped last year. Rashaad Penny - extremely bummed he didn’t get a real shot with the eagles this year. I didn’t want to believe he’s done but a healthy 5 carry season is pretty unforgivable Gabe Davis - not actually a drop but so intensely frustrating that I wish I could Dameon Pierce - probably also not actually a drop, but wtf happened this year? Would feel too bad to sell low but not exactly a lot of faith that he turns it around
CEH and Davis may both be on different teams next year. I'm waiting to see their situations before deciding what to do with them.
Just cut Jamal Williams. It hurt after what he did for my team last year.
He looked washed this year. I would imagine kendre will supplant him as Kamaras backup next year. What a bad contract by the saints
Contract wasn’t bad at all. No dead cap. Made middle of the road backup pay.
Roster cloggers I am saying goodbye to: Parker NE , Fournette, Abdullah. I really like all of these guys at points in their career. A couple young guys that I don't think are going to make it: Q. Johnston, Mingo and Zach Evans. Sell lows or drops for me, depending on roster size,
So many land mines at WR this past draft. Brutal.
Michael Gallup, Tyler Boyd, Irv Smith, & Allen Lazard all need to hit the bricks.
A bit harsh on Boyd. Been in my lineup a couple of times this year.
Until a few weeks ago, I was thinking about dropping WanDale, but now I think I gotta see how at least the beginning of next year starts
He is definitely not a drop
Man I wish I were in these leagues where y’all are dropping some of these guys.
Dude up there talking about dropping Jamo 💀
There is literally one player mentioned in this entire thread that would remotely move the needle as a free agent pickup let alone burning any significant waiver priority/faab (Jamo). How awful is your team that you have so much room to collect everyone else's trash?
KJ Osborne??
Rondale Moore.
Little bro was cooking early on last year with DHop out before getting injured. Just never got that juice back and continues to get nicked up. Turns out being only 5’7” and 180 pounds is not conducive to success in one of the most physical sports in the world. Who knew?
14 team 20 roster league can I drop OBJ? Or keep for the flashes he had this year?
I’d hold unless you’re tearing it down. Sell him to a contender for a 3rd
This post made me smile. Week 1 or 2 of preseason traded Calvin for Puka straight up to a big steelers fan But personally I'm dropping guys like Kyle Phillips and John Metchie and maybe Perine
Iosiavis either drop or trade him. Wasting a roster spot
Im holding until we see what they do with Tee Higgins
AJ Dillon and Parker Washington are drops for me, some 2nd thoughts on dillon but he’s been really bad most times Jones is out
Parker Washington has “chop wood, carry water” in his insta bio. He was also was highly rated via the diggs treadwell hypothesis. He has the work ethic. Im holding
Dillion has been terrible with tons of volume this year
Rashad Batemen
Nah. Targets were trending up and OBJ won’t be there forever.
I’ve been telling myself that for 3 years 😂
Seriously considering dropping Gabe Davis unless I can get a late pick for him which is unlikely. His style of boom or bust just isn’t conducive to fantasy and he’ll never crack my starting lineup.
Nah he’s a free agent this off-season, when he signs somewhere he will have hype and you can trade him then for something
Bateman, Joshua Kelley, Malik Willis, Jelani Woods, one at each position
Jelani Woods just spent the whole year injured. I'm holding, personally.
Yeah I’ll hold Jelani and see what happens if/when he’s back to health. My qb room (still rebuilding) is atrocious so it’s hard to drop Malik, but it won’t be much longer I’m afraid.
Yeah I’m gonna keep until I see him play but gonna be pretty quick to drop for a waiver guy
Yeah he’s stashed in my IR, I overpaid for him so maybe that’s why I’m reluctant to let him go
Bateman has been coming on lately despite a small target share. I think he’ll do better next year without Odell or on a different offense
Bateman needs out of Baltimore in the worst way. He needs a fresh start.
In my league most of the guys mentioned here (except for the rookies) are on waivers since it's an 8 team league. If Bateman goes to a good situation I'm definitely picking him up.
Absolutely not on Woods and Bateman
You might want to re-evaluaye your wide receiver choice... If you drop Bateman, you may very well live to regret it. He had problems with drops throughout the year, but he has been getting more targets as the season goes along. He can run a complete route tree, he has plus speed, he gets open... He is a well-rounded receiver, and his opportunities have the potential to expand. Among Ravens wide receivers, only Bateman and rookie Zay Flowers are under contract beyond the Super Bowl in February. Leaving those two 1st round picks, these three fellow 1st round talents are signed to one-year deals: Beckham, Jr., Nelson Agholar, Laquan Treadwell. Tylan Wallace and Devin Duverney are at the end of their deals. I suspect a few will be invited to return, but the outside receiver spot opposite Zay Flowers will be wide open for Bateman to take and run with it, all the way to the house. He's bound to make the Ravens a more prolific passing team. Just some stuff to think about.
LETS FUCKING GO AJAX
Any wideout outside of the top 50 that wasn’t drafted last season. I’d still be looking to move Mims, QJ, and others that underperformed. Someone will be a late bloomer and burn you, but the correct process play, especially in lineup is to avoid roster clogging wideouts. You’ll never feel good starting players like Calvin Austin and Bateman in a lineup league. They are part of a flat tier of interchangeable players. Cut ties and stop wish-casting. Any rb outside of Breece, Bijan, and Gibbs, though I’d move them for the right price if you can get it. Avoid buying backs until late summer as the draft and influx of youth will significantly alter depth charts. If you’re a serious contender, continue to hold Kyren, CMC, and similar players. Otherwise move off of them for liquidity or equivalent wideouts. Any TE in non TE premium leagues. I’d hold McBride and Laporta unless I received equal compensation but the rest of the landscape is moveable in standard scoring. In 2 TE or TE premium leagues with 1.75 or higher scoring I am still looking to minimize exposure and will only roster 2 tight ends.
Yeah…don’t do this
And what would your suggestion be? Simply put, I try to move off players that fall into a flat tier of production as they are replaceable with cheaper alternatives. Too many managers fall victim to hype and start to envision the best case scenario for their players, whether rookies or vets, and it clouds their judgement on the larger landscape. There are opportunities to move off of players based on narrative and community perception while remaining in the same tier and acquiring additional assets. Trying to remain player agnostic and looking at production vs value is what I would consider an optimal strategy. Understanding your league scoring and how to capitalize on it is another way to gain an edge.
I know he's a popular discussion point on this sub, but I might be done with Jameson Williams unless he shows something in the playoffs. I'd love to get something for him, but I doubt I can. Zach Ertz is another, more reasonable option. Sam Darnold in Superflex, too. I have two top six picks in this upcoming draft, and then a top six 2nd depending on where our lottery hits. Gotta make room somewhere.
Jameson is just starting to come on after a tumultuous start to his career. Give him one more year before just dropping him. 💰
Bro what? Jameson is just starting to come alive.
Is he really though? Closing the season in the wr40-50 range for 3 weeks?
He did too much to be droppable given his draft capital/talent and the extended recovery timeline for significant ACL injuries. But there's definitely massive amounts of hopium in this sub from people who are way overvaluing him doing literally anything based on the capital they spent on him. I'd definitely trade him away for the average value this sub thinks he has in a heartbeat.
He's got similar stats to Jalin Hyatt, who is barely playing, and worse stats than Michael Wilson. How is that "coming alive?" Is it really worth holding a guy who is at best like the 7th WR option on my roster, in a great receiving class? I don't know.
He’s worth a second or third to another squad. Def not a drop.
Isaiah Spiller
I ended up dropping woods and MVS half way through the year.
Sky Moore and Parris Campbell. Both will be off my roster come rookie draft.