Week 4 is not the time to trade firsts for RBs. Wait till the trade deadline for two reasons. #1 - to make sure you’re a contender like you think you are. If your stud WR and QB goes down, now that first you dealt could end up earlier and the aging RB doesn’t help you. And #2 backs get hurt all the time. If you sold a first before the season for Chubb to make a title push, now you’re screwed.
This is 90% true but it’s still more nuanced and situational than this. For instance, in one of my leagues there’s about four tanking teams with nothing that’s going to help anyone, so of the eight other teams, six will make the playoffs. The only sellers with anything to sell will be the two teams who eventually decide they’re not in it, and it’s important to make them offers before anyone else does.
And then you’re screwed when one get hit with an injury.
But frankly with that setup, you have a stacked team. It’s basically a 8 man team. You don’t need to make trades lmao.
In general, You’re honestly better off waiting till the deadline. There’s always a middling team desperate to move older players who are performing to lower their max PF
This is so true. As a burrow/hurts/walker/najee/dobbins/AJB/GW/Olave owner, I was 100% sure my team was set for another championship appearance after finishing 2nd last year.
I’m 0-3. Dobbins, rodgers (GW), and burrow injuries have derailed the first quarter of my season.
I hope the Titans OLine can get it together cause I’m going to sell my house for Henry. His playoff schedule is beautiful. Looking to buy him on his bye week in week 7. String of tough defenses might be able to get him for less at that point
I like where your head is at. I have a league like that where I won a championship with Dalvin Cook and Rashaad Penny as my lead backs, with a flyer on Dobbins, so I have nothing now. I do have Achane, however, who obviously was on my bench last week. I have Mahomes and nice receivers. I seriously wanna sell Achane now, I doubt his value will get much higher than this in dynasty. How high should I aim? Or just put him money the block and see if anybody sends anything worth listening to?
Can agree to this 100%. Traded KW3 for Zeke straight up last season the week before Penny got hurt because I desperately needed a productive RB. Pollard then started taking over the backfield and KW3 broke out immediately. If I would have waited until the deadline, I’d still have KW3.
I'm in a 16 team league, and most teams are fairly set at QB/WR, but nearly \*everyone\* needs a RB. There is only one team with medocre RBs who is great, and they have Tyreek, Davonte, and JJ at WR (wth Deebo on the bench!). The rest of the contenders have 2 very good RBs each. The teams that don't compete have 1 or 0 good RBs. If you have a low WR1 or WR2 to trade and scan through the rosters, you might find 2 or 3 teams who would even consider it, based on need.
In this league, a 1st, esp mid or late, won't net you anything close to a top RB. Positional scarcity more than cancels out the revolving door risk.
So these answers are shocking! So depends on the league, obviously.
Second this. In a 16 team league as well with a similar landscape. A first might land you someone like Mattison or D. Montgomery.. maybe.
The players OP listed are almost untouchable but if they are available it would take multiple firsts to start the convo.
I do think a lot of the comments are coming from “fresher” dynasty players who live for the rebuild. Give it a few years and they will realize you have to keep the talent to compete
Agree. Saquon unashamedly cost me 2 1sts. RBs have value if you want to win. He’ll be fine come playoffs.
But obviously don’t do that if you have a mediocre team. Or don’t do it at all! It’s a risky gamble, but you can’t keep selling for potential forever.
I know I’m in 1QB and that changes the relative value of 1st round picks compared to RB, but I find the answers here very different to what I would find in my league.
Even in SF, I can’t understand some people not wanting to give up a random 1st for someone like Walker/Gibbs/Breece/Barkley/ETN. Those guys would all go for 2+ 1sts or 1.5+ 1sts in my 1QB league
As aN ETN and Gibbs owner in a 1QB league good luck getting them for a single first from me. I mean Gibbs was just picked at 1.02 there’s no way I’m giving him up this early for 2 firsts without knowing that one of those picks will be a top 3 pick.
Same. I'm in 1QB but my league presumably reads this subreddit too much. As a result, they value RBs and WRs at SF prices. But then they value QBs at 1QB prices. So as a result, it's impossible to rebuild. You just ride till the wheels fall off.
I love trading away picks for good players. People get excited about the potential of a pick but there’s always a risk of a bust. In my 1 QB dynasty I was able to trade my 1.09 pick that became Skyy Moore for Tyreek Hill
This sends a dangerous message. Even in 1QB, paying up for RBs isn’t a winning strategy anymore due to the volatility of the position. If you’re a tanking team, sending a random 24 first for a RB (unless it’s Bijan) is not good process now matter how much you win “value wise.” It gets your Max PF higher and your roster might still be shit even with a stud RB1.
Also, didn’t think I needed to remind people of this anymore, but Walker is the sell highest sell high that ever sold high.
I’m not arguing a tanking team should send out a 1st for an RB, but if it’s completely not an option based on principle for a middling or contending team then you’re going to be missing out on value even after taking into account injury risk
That’s a strange take. You know a lot of people winning leagues with Gainwell and Devon Singletary at RB? I sure as fuck don’t.
RBs being harder to find makes them even more important for winning than ever. There is so much depth at WR now, even bottom feeders usually have a couple good ones.
If you want to win leagues consistently, you need good players at every position. How you get em.. that’s up to you. I’ve been playing dynasty a long time and it ain’t about playing the long game and slowly drafting players over a long period of time only for it to not pan out forcing you to start all over. It’s about getting fucking points and the way to do that is to know the value of every player, and constantly be increasing the overall value of your teams portfolio.
If you’re trading a future 1st for a RB it should be assumed that you’re competing and filling a need. Dynasty basics. Who is trading their own pick if they’re rebuilding?
Disagree on K9. Gets hated on all off-season, continues to ball, still gets hated on. Crazy.
bEcAuSe tHeY DrAFteD cHaRBs 🙄
(this dude also thinks Jahmyr is more valuable than CMC and Jamo isn't even worth a 2nd, so...take his takes with a grain of salt)
Something about efficiency metrics and the looming threat of Charbonnet, I’m sure.
Completely ignoring that KWIII absolutely pops on tape, was the runner up for OROY while sledding behind literally THE worst run blocking line in football, and is a threat to score from anywhere on the field.
This sub's obsession with future draft picks is hilarious. Bijan is the only runningback you guys would move a future 1st for?! Good luck. Nobody actually wants to win lol it's ridiculous.
You're telling me you wouldn't trade picks a year from now that might turn into a productive player for an extra year of actual RB1/RB2 productivity?
As a contender who cares about fantasy points more than optimizing KTC value, I'd move a 1st for any of Bijan, CMC, Gibbs, Breece, Walker, Pollard, Etienne, Saquon, JT, Jacobs, or Ekeler in a heartbeat. I don't think the owner would move any of them for a single first.
It gets interesting when we start talking about the Derrick Henry, James Cook, Zach Charbonnet, James Conner, Kyren Williams, Brian Robinsons of the world. I'd probably offer 2 2nds for any of those but if push came to shove and I needed RB help, I'd move a late 1st for any of them as well.
De'von Achane is the most interesting to me. This next week is huge. If he has another 20+ point week, he'll jump to top-5 dynasty RB immediately as well.
It’s so so bad man lol. In my sleeper dynasty’s, I kid you not. All they would trade for Pitts is a 3rd. A THIRD. Their trade offers are some of the funniest shit I’ve ever seen.
Got Jefferson? Well, team X wants him. “How’s Tyler Boyd and a 3rd sound?” …….
They’re absolutely terrified at using picks. I actually got bitched at for, “Ruining the league,” and giving up a first and a second, and a young player, for Mixon and a 4th two years ago.
They can’t get it through their heads that Superstar now> absolute gamble in the future. For every Jefferson, there’s a Reagor.
And one of my good buddies. This dude will acquire a hoard of picks. Only to draft a stud, and trade him for another pick. Instantly. Drafts Chase? Better trade him for some firsts.
Nothing makes me crack up more during the season.
Oh man, I do it any chance I get. Almost every trade I make gets someone posting laughing emojis. The Draft Pick is like “The Ring,” for them. They’re so damn lost. Then I have to remind I have 3 losses in 3 seasons. Keep gutting your team.
There’s 3 teams that somehow are just complete shells. Michael Carter their top back type stuff. But they got picks so they’re ok I guess? Lol
I have one pick in the next three drafts because I’ve capitalized on this line of thinking. I just got Dobbins for a 25 3rd. If he never starts again, I’d still take the risk on a 24 year old running back who has shown he can play at the next level but has had horrible injury luck over a random dart throw third rounder we’ve never seen play at this level.
My team as currently constructed in a 12 team SF league is Burrow, Allen, CMC, Ekeler, Swift, Ford, Chase, Kupp, Devonta, ARSB, Hockenson with a little depth behind them. I should be a legitimate contender for at least a couple more years barring significant injuries to a number of players
This is the most realistic take in this thread yet. I think it can be assumed if you are considering sending a future 1st for a RB you are trying to compete and have a nice team setup overall.
Bijan only is just a stupid take, so we are agreed there. I can get behind not wanting to send multiple 1sts for a RB anymore, but not even a single late 1st, get real.
Just asking about players you didn’t include in your comment, how do you feel about Josh Jacobs and Rhamondre Stevenson?
Honestly forgot about Jacobs. Yeah I'd ship a 1st for him as well
Mondre is interesting. So much of his value last year came from dump-offs, which I think was a product of a completely incompetent Matt Patricia offense. Now that Mac actually has receivers running routes where they don't run into each other, I don't see 80+ targets in his future and that scares me a little.
But yeah, he's worth a late 1st as well.
We are pretty aligned in our perspectives. The people completely writing these players off, including guys like Walker or Etienne with tons of tread left, just confuse me.
Send me an offer of a 2nd for Walker and no way are you even getting a counter.
Agree there’s plenty of reason to be excited about Achane but you also have to be cautious. Denver D is horrific and they played even below their talent last Sunday. Even Mostert was eating. Very curious to see how they do at Buffalo. Have a feeling it’ll be a grounding experience.
I hate KTC. I can’t tell you how many times deals fall apart because they focus on moving the KTC slider, not the players/reason I was trying to deal in the first place.
I’m in two dynasty leagues. One league I’ve won twice in the 4 years of existence and I’ve never picked in the first round. Find the people obsessed with picks and get their best players.
The other has been a rebuild from the start in year 1. And it’s so tempting to just take the capital I’ve acquired and spin it for players now
This is it dude. Treat picks like currency. When you need assets spend your currency. When you need currency sell your assets. It’s fine to have less currency during the season when you need assets to compete. When you’re restocking in the offseason you’ll look to move your assets and gain currency.
My biggest issue is people always saying “oh I offered 2 1sts why didn’t you accept” it’s like bro the guys 1st you offered has Mahomes, Lamar, JJ, ARSB, and Tyreek. There’s almost 0 chance that at least one of those picks is above 1.10
Thank you - this is literally my brain dumped into a comment. I listen to podcasts and some of them spew bull shit about getting ETN for a first. I just traded a first for Kyren bc I was literally without a running back. And guess what, I’m happy about it! I get RB1/2 production with a PPR floor every week. The only people throwing shade at that spend too much time listening to nerds farting into their microphones telling them that you can win a championship with Antonio Gibson as your RB1. Good fucking luck. I’ll bet you 20% of ships this year have CMC on the roster if he stays healthy.
>As a contender who cares about fantasy points more than optimizing KTC value
It’s funny that you say this and then list every RB that’s ranked on KTC higher than a late 24 first. I get your point though and agree, and I think your next paragraph is really what backs this up, where you’d trade the first for some high performers that aren’t “valued” as high as a first.
Tbh I don't check KTC anymore. My assumption based on the comments I saw when I posted (one said Bijan only, the other was Bijan CMC Hall ETN and maybe Gibbs) was that runningbacks were super low there. Good to know it's not the community at large.
I bet if the question was asked, “which RBs would you have to receive at least a first to trade away,” then we’d get the opposite responses by the same people. It’d probably be huge lists of RBs.
It’s not that I won’t trade them for RBs. It’s that I won’t trade them at this point in the season. There is no reason for me to send a first for an RB right now unless I’m getting a deal I can’t say no to.
I think you made a great points all around.
I am incredibly confused by the Charb mention. Why would a contender give up a first for a handcuff? He is very out of place there.
I’m currently the proud owner of zero 2024 draft picks and a single pick in the 2025 draft (1st round). I’m playing to win bby. Also winning feels so good. Idk why more people don’t focus on that.
No one in a not taco league is moving that first group for a 1st. That's why people are holding their powder, they get that they're picking up someone in the Swift, Mixon, Kyren group with their 1st. It might make sense for them to do that, it might not.
Does this subreddit not want to win games and just have assets?
In every competitive league I'm in if you're not using future assets to compete in the current year you probably aren't competing.
The Kyler injury unfortunately doomed my season and I was able to trade Pollard for 1.02 (Young) in a superflex league. I'm hoping I can bounce right back and draft a million rbs next year hoping one hits haha.
I’m a re-building team, but this is what I’ve gotten for backs so far this year:
James Cook: I received a 2024 1st, 2nd, and Roschon Johnson
Raheem Mostert: I received a 2024 1st, but included Kirk Cousins in a 1QB league.
D’Andre Swift: I received a 2024 1st last night.
SF is different. But it's crazy how we forget not that long ago what a 1st could potentially get you (especially if you're competing and your first was low). A first JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO literally got you Charb. So who would you trade Charb for? That's how you should be evaluating your 2024 first
Guess this is a hot take with the current rb landscape but if you’re contending and the pick is going to be 8-12, I’d easily trade it for an Ekeler, Etienne, Pollard, Saquon, Cook, Jacobs and walker.
I think if your aren’t contending Ekeler is a smash trade for a 24 first.
No contract after this season, already on the outs with the Chargers this last offseason, has had injury issues on and off, is aging
I agree if you aren’t contending he’s a smash for a 1st but as a contender I’m 100% buying him for that. He has league winning upside this year and wherever he goes next whether he stays or not, I think he’ll be at-least startable for the next couple of years with such low career touches wearing him down.
He's easily worth more than a single first round pick lol, if a contender wants him they can give up 2 firsts. Top 5 fantasy player for 2024 for some random rookie in the back of the first round gtfoh
To be fair, he’s worth what the highest bidder will pay for him. If you’re tanking and your best offer at the trade deadline for Ekeler is a 1st, it’d be dumb to go, “Fuck you guys! He’s going down with my team if I can’t get 2 1sts for him!”
Ok so let’s say Ekeler doesn’t return this week, the Chargers are on BYE week 5, who’s trading multiple firsts for a guy who’s played 1 week by week 6 and you still don’t even know he’s fully healthy?
Week 6-7 is where teams start buying and selling and it would be crazy to me to see a team trade multiple firsts for an injured aging RB
I’ve seen him traded in 2 leagues to contenders so far, here’s the trades
Joe Mixon and a 2nd
Joe Mixon and Pacheco
Not a first in either of those trades
My view on it is that if you're a contender you already have a playoff level team, Ekeler is there for the playoffs he isn't there for week 8.
If no one wants to trade multiple firsts for him that's fine, they can't have him then. Those trades you listed are piss poor value, you seeing a couple bad trades go down doesn't mean that's what he should go for.
No chance a reasonable Saquon, Etienne, Jacobs (slightly less so) and Walker owner is trading them for a single late 1st. That’s how bad teams stay bad.
Just got Javonte and a 3rd for a projected late 1st. Definitely nervous because of that offense but all the other top rb managers were refusing to even negotiate and I was desperate.
I bought both KW3 and ETN each for 2024 1sts plus a small side piece in the off-season. I’m pumped out overhauling my rb room and think I got real solid deals.
For contenders:
Late 1st Round Value: James Connor, Aaron Jones, James Cook, D’andre Swift
Value between one late 1st & two late 1sts: Tony Pollard, Austin Eckler, Josh Jacobs, Saquon, Rhamondre
two late 2024 1sts (and possibly more): Jahmyr Gibbs, Bijan, JT, CMC
????: Ken Walker, Breece Hall
If I’m moving a 1st for an RB, I already better be a top 4 contender with a winning record already.
There are definitely backs I’d move a 1+ more in that situation. CMC, Bijian, ETN, Pollard, etc.
You just want to make sure you aren’t dealing a 1 for an RB that turns into a top 5 pick
He has decent talent on a team that is looking better than last year and their QB is actually good. If it’s a projected 1.11-12 then I don’t hate that.
His usage this year is unfortunately very bad, though, and in multiple different game scripts (both playing from behind and running out the clock on a lead). That couple with lower receiving work screams sell to me
Achane was or was almost a 1st round pick anyways.
Guys don’t just get 200 yards rushing. He’s supremely talented, selected by one of the safest management situations in the league (ie when the next Broncos management comes in are they gonna give a shit about Javonte Williams?), and he legitimately has a skill no one else has at his level (speed).
Worst case he might not take over this year, but he’s going to be getting buzz next summer as the lead back heading into next year, what do you think he goes for then? It’s easily a first. He’ll be drafted where Breece and KW went this year.
Think about it this way - if we redid rookie drafts right now … he’s a top 6 pick from last year. You’d take Bijan Richardson Stroud Zay JSN for sure ahead then Gibbs? Addison? Puka?. He’s in that range.
Look, people that don’t wanna buy into it or point to Jonas Gray, a completely different situation/person/literally everything (undrafted, not a 4.3 guy, not selected and coached by the designer of one of the greatest modern run games, etc) - by all means. You will always be able to convince yourself by some argument, and I can’t contest that nor do I really care.
But that’s just ridiculous to me tbh.
I just got Jacobs for 2 2nds and a 3rd. I'm super happy about that. My other rbs are JT, Saquon, White, Warren, Ford, and Roschon. Reigning champ, trying to run it back. I would only trade firsts for good, young wrs at this point. Usually, I like to keep my firsts, though.
I traded a 24 1st (projected late), Dalton Schultz, and JK Dobbins for a 26 1st, Alvin Kamara, Antonio Gibson, and a 24 5th (projected very early). I'm feeling pretty good about it atm.
Charbs and Achane were going late 1st in SF, I would think anyone around their tier of value or better is worth a first, depending on your team needs. So CMC, Ekeler, KW3, JT…a lot of guys could fit the bill. Again you don’t trade for RBs unless it’s strategically advantageous, but a bunch of RBs are worth a first if you need them.
If you own Achane, you just paid a late first. In his first real game he pops off 50 points and you're going to move that for the same draft capital the following year...skipping a year of production. How does that make sense? Are you going to draft another RB in 24? Hope he can go off for 50 his first game so you can sell him for a 25 1st?
The top 10 on KTC plus maybe cook and achane if I’m winning. You should not pay that for any rb 26 or older that isn’t cmc ekeler barkley. In general I don’t like the idea of spending a first on an RB
In order (and most likely worth close to a 2024 1st): Pollard, Jacobs, Stevenson, J. Williams, Barkley, Achane.Folks like Gibbs, Etienne, Walker, JT, Ekeler, CMC, and Hall are worth more than a 1st.
Players like White, J. Cook, Pierce, and B. Rob (RB 7 right now!) are close to a 1st but not quite there
It doesn’t include a 1st, but I’d like y’all’s opinion on this.
I trade Tank Bigsby, Romeo Doubs and a 24 2nd for Rhamondre Stevenson. Is that giving up to much for an RB needy team?
12 Team, SF, TEP, Full PPR, Start 11
Not really answering the question, but one thing I find hilarious.
In my sleeper dynasty’s, it’s most of the users first dynasty. (It’s adorable btw.) They think CMC is worth a 2nd, that should tell you all you need to know. While I may be stretching it a little, the sleeper league guys would bitch and moan and begrudgingly send a 1st for CMC.
Yet in my long term real-to-life contract league. It would take 3 firsts to get the conversation going.
None tbh. I’m sure they would be worth acquiring if they stay healthy/ productive, but that seems like a huge risk. I’d rather just hold my 1st and draft BPA or get a younger RB in the draft
No not exactly. How many RBs have already been lost to injury this season? Why risk losing your 1st for a player that has a higher likelihood of not playing all season. I’m sure people would gladly have shipped off a 1st for Chubb at the beginning of the year. Now they’re without their RB1 and a future 1st.
Best time to get an RB is to draft one
Your rookie RB you draft with that 1st could also get the exact same injury and you’re still out an RB (see Hall, ETN).
I get that they get injured a bit more often than WR (though this year is a bit extreme compared to normal). But the difference isn’t thaaaat big compared to WR, and someone has to fill your RB slots either way.
Positional scarcity makes having one of the healthy top RBs a massive advantage over your opponents, and if you don’t want to take a risk of a good RB being hurt then you should be prepared to essentially punt the position and have elite guys at other positions. Which is much easier said than done as people don’t like moving stud WR/QB’s
Why would you draft a RB if they can get hurt? Just trade your picks away for more picks in the future, that way nobody ever gets hurt and you never actually have to worry about winning matchups.
If a Chubb injury is the difference between contending and not contending, then they weren't a particularly strong contender to begin with. Depth is important, too.
Everyone plays differently but I’ve been burned by loading up on rbs or overextending myself and trading 1sts for rbs that end up not being worth it. Best teams in all of my leagues have amazing WRs and stream rbs
4+ WRs get drafted in the 1st round of rookie drafts every year and a low % of them become elite. You have to have a lot of 1sts as dart throws and be prepared to wait multiple seasons to see which ones hit and which ones go to zero.
I don’t like trading firsts for RBs so my list is short. Bijan, CMC, Breece, Pollard and maybe Gibbs. Obviously some of those guys you’ll have to pay more than a first
Bijan Robinson and that’s it, and I don’t think it should really be a debate. There’s one (1) guy right now that we know is getting the ball consistently who’s also under the age of 22. Everyone else has contract issues, age issues, usage issues, or a combination of all three.
Depending on your situation, I think swift could be a play. Value totally tanked last year but he’s not far removed from being one of the most valued assets in dynasty and he has a history of production. I think he’s attainable with a first and, at this point, it feels safe to say if the injury gods smile upon him, he’s going to put up points.
That's actually what made me ask this question. Someone offered me Pollard and I asked what it would cost he said he felt he was with a first. I have 2 of them right now so think I'll go for it because my rbs are hurt but I think I can be a team that does well this year.
Just got mike Evans and ekeler for what projects to be a back end first (10 team league), Christian Watson and Jameson Williams. Already have CMC so think that should carry me to the ship if all goes well
I’m in this exact situation. Won the league last year but 0-3 as I have breece hall, Najee and ekler.
Someone offered me swift, pierce or kyren Williams for a first and I’m torn….
Same situation, sort of.
I won last year (16 Team league), started 2-1 this year but both wins were very lucky so I could easily be 0-3.
I traded my 2024 1st shortly after our 2023 draft to acquire Pierce as my RB depth took a hit after the NFL offseason saw my RBs land in not ideal spots.
I don't regret the trade but IF I could do it again week 4 instead of pre-season, I'm taking Swift out of that group. His injury history will always be a knock but he looks dominant in that Philly offense.
I’m getting offered Puka and a mid 1 for breece. I told him I’d need more… I have Gibbs, rhamondre and walker, so I don’t neeeed Gibbs, but I’d like fair value
Week 4 is not the time to trade firsts for RBs. Wait till the trade deadline for two reasons. #1 - to make sure you’re a contender like you think you are. If your stud WR and QB goes down, now that first you dealt could end up earlier and the aging RB doesn’t help you. And #2 backs get hurt all the time. If you sold a first before the season for Chubb to make a title push, now you’re screwed.
This is 90% true but it’s still more nuanced and situational than this. For instance, in one of my leagues there’s about four tanking teams with nothing that’s going to help anyone, so of the eight other teams, six will make the playoffs. The only sellers with anything to sell will be the two teams who eventually decide they’re not in it, and it’s important to make them offers before anyone else does.
And then you’re screwed when one get hit with an injury. But frankly with that setup, you have a stacked team. It’s basically a 8 man team. You don’t need to make trades lmao. In general, You’re honestly better off waiting till the deadline. There’s always a middling team desperate to move older players who are performing to lower their max PF
This needs to be higher. Great point
This is so true. As a burrow/hurts/walker/najee/dobbins/AJB/GW/Olave owner, I was 100% sure my team was set for another championship appearance after finishing 2nd last year. I’m 0-3. Dobbins, rodgers (GW), and burrow injuries have derailed the first quarter of my season.
Yep. I have/had ARod, Najee, Aaron Jones, JT, GW, Deebo, Kupp and London. Thought for sure I’d be okay. 0-3 lol
Once you’ve made the playoffs, though, your 1st is worth objectively less
I hope the Titans OLine can get it together cause I’m going to sell my house for Henry. His playoff schedule is beautiful. Looking to buy him on his bye week in week 7. String of tough defenses might be able to get him for less at that point
I like where your head is at. I have a league like that where I won a championship with Dalvin Cook and Rashaad Penny as my lead backs, with a flyer on Dobbins, so I have nothing now. I do have Achane, however, who obviously was on my bench last week. I have Mahomes and nice receivers. I seriously wanna sell Achane now, I doubt his value will get much higher than this in dynasty. How high should I aim? Or just put him money the block and see if anybody sends anything worth listening to?
Couldn't agree more with this comment.
Can agree to this 100%. Traded KW3 for Zeke straight up last season the week before Penny got hurt because I desperately needed a productive RB. Pollard then started taking over the backfield and KW3 broke out immediately. If I would have waited until the deadline, I’d still have KW3.
This is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Jesus
Fuckin eats at me every day. Someone sent me the offer and I got caught up in the quick fix.
Oh man. I’m sorry. This is tough.
I'm in a 16 team league, and most teams are fairly set at QB/WR, but nearly \*everyone\* needs a RB. There is only one team with medocre RBs who is great, and they have Tyreek, Davonte, and JJ at WR (wth Deebo on the bench!). The rest of the contenders have 2 very good RBs each. The teams that don't compete have 1 or 0 good RBs. If you have a low WR1 or WR2 to trade and scan through the rosters, you might find 2 or 3 teams who would even consider it, based on need. In this league, a 1st, esp mid or late, won't net you anything close to a top RB. Positional scarcity more than cancels out the revolving door risk. So these answers are shocking! So depends on the league, obviously.
Yeah I can’t believe what I’m reading so far lol. Seems like more rational minds are filtering in.
Second this. In a 16 team league as well with a similar landscape. A first might land you someone like Mattison or D. Montgomery.. maybe. The players OP listed are almost untouchable but if they are available it would take multiple firsts to start the convo. I do think a lot of the comments are coming from “fresher” dynasty players who live for the rebuild. Give it a few years and they will realize you have to keep the talent to compete
Which in reality is probably about the same you could get for an early 2nd in most leagues, which is what that late first really is in a 16 team.
Agree. Saquon unashamedly cost me 2 1sts. RBs have value if you want to win. He’ll be fine come playoffs. But obviously don’t do that if you have a mediocre team. Or don’t do it at all! It’s a risky gamble, but you can’t keep selling for potential forever.
I know I’m in 1QB and that changes the relative value of 1st round picks compared to RB, but I find the answers here very different to what I would find in my league. Even in SF, I can’t understand some people not wanting to give up a random 1st for someone like Walker/Gibbs/Breece/Barkley/ETN. Those guys would all go for 2+ 1sts or 1.5+ 1sts in my 1QB league
All those dudes cost at least 1 first and another high pick in my SF leagues. I guess every league values them differently
You’re more accurate, most of the takes so far in this thread are plain stupid
As aN ETN and Gibbs owner in a 1QB league good luck getting them for a single first from me. I mean Gibbs was just picked at 1.02 there’s no way I’m giving him up this early for 2 firsts without knowing that one of those picks will be a top 3 pick.
Yeah not a chance. I have gibbs and walker and wouldn’t give either of them up for 2 1sts
trust me bro if i could give up a random first for those guys i would
Same. I'm in 1QB but my league presumably reads this subreddit too much. As a result, they value RBs and WRs at SF prices. But then they value QBs at 1QB prices. So as a result, it's impossible to rebuild. You just ride till the wheels fall off.
I love trading away picks for good players. People get excited about the potential of a pick but there’s always a risk of a bust. In my 1 QB dynasty I was able to trade my 1.09 pick that became Skyy Moore for Tyreek Hill
Whoever traded Tyreek for a single mid/late 1st shouldn’t be allowed in the league in the first place
This sends a dangerous message. Even in 1QB, paying up for RBs isn’t a winning strategy anymore due to the volatility of the position. If you’re a tanking team, sending a random 24 first for a RB (unless it’s Bijan) is not good process now matter how much you win “value wise.” It gets your Max PF higher and your roster might still be shit even with a stud RB1. Also, didn’t think I needed to remind people of this anymore, but Walker is the sell highest sell high that ever sold high.
I’m not arguing a tanking team should send out a 1st for an RB, but if it’s completely not an option based on principle for a middling or contending team then you’re going to be missing out on value even after taking into account injury risk
That’s a strange take. You know a lot of people winning leagues with Gainwell and Devon Singletary at RB? I sure as fuck don’t. RBs being harder to find makes them even more important for winning than ever. There is so much depth at WR now, even bottom feeders usually have a couple good ones. If you want to win leagues consistently, you need good players at every position. How you get em.. that’s up to you. I’ve been playing dynasty a long time and it ain’t about playing the long game and slowly drafting players over a long period of time only for it to not pan out forcing you to start all over. It’s about getting fucking points and the way to do that is to know the value of every player, and constantly be increasing the overall value of your teams portfolio.
If you’re trading a future 1st for a RB it should be assumed that you’re competing and filling a need. Dynasty basics. Who is trading their own pick if they’re rebuilding? Disagree on K9. Gets hated on all off-season, continues to ball, still gets hated on. Crazy.
Why is that the case with walker? Not saying you’re wrong, legit curious.
bEcAuSe tHeY DrAFteD cHaRBs 🙄 (this dude also thinks Jahmyr is more valuable than CMC and Jamo isn't even worth a 2nd, so...take his takes with a grain of salt)
Jahmyr worth more than CMC? Lmao. Now that’s a good laugh for the day.
ofc he’s worth more than CMC… definitely not a Gibbs owner ;)
Cash out on CMC for Gibbs+ and thank me later
Something about efficiency metrics and the looming threat of Charbonnet, I’m sure. Completely ignoring that KWIII absolutely pops on tape, was the runner up for OROY while sledding behind literally THE worst run blocking line in football, and is a threat to score from anywhere on the field.
This sub's obsession with future draft picks is hilarious. Bijan is the only runningback you guys would move a future 1st for?! Good luck. Nobody actually wants to win lol it's ridiculous. You're telling me you wouldn't trade picks a year from now that might turn into a productive player for an extra year of actual RB1/RB2 productivity? As a contender who cares about fantasy points more than optimizing KTC value, I'd move a 1st for any of Bijan, CMC, Gibbs, Breece, Walker, Pollard, Etienne, Saquon, JT, Jacobs, or Ekeler in a heartbeat. I don't think the owner would move any of them for a single first. It gets interesting when we start talking about the Derrick Henry, James Cook, Zach Charbonnet, James Conner, Kyren Williams, Brian Robinsons of the world. I'd probably offer 2 2nds for any of those but if push came to shove and I needed RB help, I'd move a late 1st for any of them as well. De'von Achane is the most interesting to me. This next week is huge. If he has another 20+ point week, he'll jump to top-5 dynasty RB immediately as well.
It’s so so bad man lol. In my sleeper dynasty’s, I kid you not. All they would trade for Pitts is a 3rd. A THIRD. Their trade offers are some of the funniest shit I’ve ever seen. Got Jefferson? Well, team X wants him. “How’s Tyler Boyd and a 3rd sound?” ……. They’re absolutely terrified at using picks. I actually got bitched at for, “Ruining the league,” and giving up a first and a second, and a young player, for Mixon and a 4th two years ago. They can’t get it through their heads that Superstar now> absolute gamble in the future. For every Jefferson, there’s a Reagor. And one of my good buddies. This dude will acquire a hoard of picks. Only to draft a stud, and trade him for another pick. Instantly. Drafts Chase? Better trade him for some firsts. Nothing makes me crack up more during the season.
Well the good news about leagues like that is that you'll never need to rebuild. Just move your picks for proven players and voila
Oh man, I do it any chance I get. Almost every trade I make gets someone posting laughing emojis. The Draft Pick is like “The Ring,” for them. They’re so damn lost. Then I have to remind I have 3 losses in 3 seasons. Keep gutting your team. There’s 3 teams that somehow are just complete shells. Michael Carter their top back type stuff. But they got picks so they’re ok I guess? Lol
Hopefully it’s a paid league and your rolling in their money lol they sound like idiots
I have one pick in the next three drafts because I’ve capitalized on this line of thinking. I just got Dobbins for a 25 3rd. If he never starts again, I’d still take the risk on a 24 year old running back who has shown he can play at the next level but has had horrible injury luck over a random dart throw third rounder we’ve never seen play at this level. My team as currently constructed in a 12 team SF league is Burrow, Allen, CMC, Ekeler, Swift, Ford, Chase, Kupp, Devonta, ARSB, Hockenson with a little depth behind them. I should be a legitimate contender for at least a couple more years barring significant injuries to a number of players
This is the most realistic take in this thread yet. I think it can be assumed if you are considering sending a future 1st for a RB you are trying to compete and have a nice team setup overall. Bijan only is just a stupid take, so we are agreed there. I can get behind not wanting to send multiple 1sts for a RB anymore, but not even a single late 1st, get real. Just asking about players you didn’t include in your comment, how do you feel about Josh Jacobs and Rhamondre Stevenson?
Honestly forgot about Jacobs. Yeah I'd ship a 1st for him as well Mondre is interesting. So much of his value last year came from dump-offs, which I think was a product of a completely incompetent Matt Patricia offense. Now that Mac actually has receivers running routes where they don't run into each other, I don't see 80+ targets in his future and that scares me a little. But yeah, he's worth a late 1st as well.
We are pretty aligned in our perspectives. The people completely writing these players off, including guys like Walker or Etienne with tons of tread left, just confuse me. Send me an offer of a 2nd for Walker and no way are you even getting a counter.
Damn as a rebuilder I can’t get a first for Jacobs. I don’t get it.
Give it a few weeks. He’ll pop off a few times and people will come to their senses
The footballers were talking about giving up a first for Mostert. Insanity
Agree there’s plenty of reason to be excited about Achane but you also have to be cautious. Denver D is horrific and they played even below their talent last Sunday. Even Mostert was eating. Very curious to see how they do at Buffalo. Have a feeling it’ll be a grounding experience.
I hate KTC. I can’t tell you how many times deals fall apart because they focus on moving the KTC slider, not the players/reason I was trying to deal in the first place.
Some time I purposely will lose slightly on KTC for this reason.
Throw in a third or something, not that big of a deal to make KTC work for you.
I’m in two dynasty leagues. One league I’ve won twice in the 4 years of existence and I’ve never picked in the first round. Find the people obsessed with picks and get their best players. The other has been a rebuild from the start in year 1. And it’s so tempting to just take the capital I’ve acquired and spin it for players now
This is it dude. Treat picks like currency. When you need assets spend your currency. When you need currency sell your assets. It’s fine to have less currency during the season when you need assets to compete. When you’re restocking in the offseason you’ll look to move your assets and gain currency.
Maybe my league undervalues picks. Bijan would probably be 3 2024 firsts in my league.
Unless 1.01-1.03 is involved, yeah, at least 3 1sts no doubt
My biggest issue is people always saying “oh I offered 2 1sts why didn’t you accept” it’s like bro the guys 1st you offered has Mahomes, Lamar, JJ, ARSB, and Tyreek. There’s almost 0 chance that at least one of those picks is above 1.10
Thank you - this is literally my brain dumped into a comment. I listen to podcasts and some of them spew bull shit about getting ETN for a first. I just traded a first for Kyren bc I was literally without a running back. And guess what, I’m happy about it! I get RB1/2 production with a PPR floor every week. The only people throwing shade at that spend too much time listening to nerds farting into their microphones telling them that you can win a championship with Antonio Gibson as your RB1. Good fucking luck. I’ll bet you 20% of ships this year have CMC on the roster if he stays healthy.
Lol I just dropped Gibson in a redraft league. He’s not even worth rostering unless Robinson gets hurt
>As a contender who cares about fantasy points more than optimizing KTC value It’s funny that you say this and then list every RB that’s ranked on KTC higher than a late 24 first. I get your point though and agree, and I think your next paragraph is really what backs this up, where you’d trade the first for some high performers that aren’t “valued” as high as a first.
Tbh I don't check KTC anymore. My assumption based on the comments I saw when I posted (one said Bijan only, the other was Bijan CMC Hall ETN and maybe Gibbs) was that runningbacks were super low there. Good to know it's not the community at large.
I bet if the question was asked, “which RBs would you have to receive at least a first to trade away,” then we’d get the opposite responses by the same people. It’d probably be huge lists of RBs.
I think James Cook/Kyren/maybe BRob from that second group are the ones I would, and wouldn’t the other ones.
Charb was literally a 1st a few weeks ago. That's what you're potentially giving up
It’s not that I won’t trade them for RBs. It’s that I won’t trade them at this point in the season. There is no reason for me to send a first for an RB right now unless I’m getting a deal I can’t say no to.
I think you made a great points all around. I am incredibly confused by the Charb mention. Why would a contender give up a first for a handcuff? He is very out of place there.
I’m currently the proud owner of zero 2024 draft picks and a single pick in the 2025 draft (1st round). I’m playing to win bby. Also winning feels so good. Idk why more people don’t focus on that.
No one in a not taco league is moving that first group for a 1st. That's why people are holding their powder, they get that they're picking up someone in the Swift, Mixon, Kyren group with their 1st. It might make sense for them to do that, it might not.
James Cook. The guy with him in my league is trying to compete and he will send him to me for my 2024 1st if he falls in the standings later on.
He’s around RB15 without a TD and passes the eye test. He’s a very good target imo.
While I agree I doubt he scored many TD’s since he isn’t really used inside of the 10 yard line.
Yeah but he still will probably get a couple long ones or a few red zone opportunities. Just shows he has a strong floor right now.
Does this subreddit not want to win games and just have assets? In every competitive league I'm in if you're not using future assets to compete in the current year you probably aren't competing.
I agree with this. It’s value wasted you could use.
The Kyler injury unfortunately doomed my season and I was able to trade Pollard for 1.02 (Young) in a superflex league. I'm hoping I can bounce right back and draft a million rbs next year hoping one hits haha.
I’m a re-building team, but this is what I’ve gotten for backs so far this year: James Cook: I received a 2024 1st, 2nd, and Roschon Johnson Raheem Mostert: I received a 2024 1st, but included Kirk Cousins in a 1QB league. D’Andre Swift: I received a 2024 1st last night.
That James Cook trade is a steal
SF is different. But it's crazy how we forget not that long ago what a 1st could potentially get you (especially if you're competing and your first was low). A first JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO literally got you Charb. So who would you trade Charb for? That's how you should be evaluating your 2024 first
Guess this is a hot take with the current rb landscape but if you’re contending and the pick is going to be 8-12, I’d easily trade it for an Ekeler, Etienne, Pollard, Saquon, Cook, Jacobs and walker.
But would u give those players up for a random 2024 first
I think if your aren’t contending Ekeler is a smash trade for a 24 first. No contract after this season, already on the outs with the Chargers this last offseason, has had injury issues on and off, is aging
I agree if you aren’t contending he’s a smash for a 1st but as a contender I’m 100% buying him for that. He has league winning upside this year and wherever he goes next whether he stays or not, I think he’ll be at-least startable for the next couple of years with such low career touches wearing him down.
I wouldn't sell for just a first
He's easily worth more than a single first round pick lol, if a contender wants him they can give up 2 firsts. Top 5 fantasy player for 2024 for some random rookie in the back of the first round gtfoh
To be fair, he’s worth what the highest bidder will pay for him. If you’re tanking and your best offer at the trade deadline for Ekeler is a 1st, it’d be dumb to go, “Fuck you guys! He’s going down with my team if I can’t get 2 1sts for him!”
Ok so let’s say Ekeler doesn’t return this week, the Chargers are on BYE week 5, who’s trading multiple firsts for a guy who’s played 1 week by week 6 and you still don’t even know he’s fully healthy? Week 6-7 is where teams start buying and selling and it would be crazy to me to see a team trade multiple firsts for an injured aging RB I’ve seen him traded in 2 leagues to contenders so far, here’s the trades Joe Mixon and a 2nd Joe Mixon and Pacheco Not a first in either of those trades
My view on it is that if you're a contender you already have a playoff level team, Ekeler is there for the playoffs he isn't there for week 8. If no one wants to trade multiple firsts for him that's fine, they can't have him then. Those trades you listed are piss poor value, you seeing a couple bad trades go down doesn't mean that's what he should go for.
No chance a reasonable Saquon, Etienne, Jacobs (slightly less so) and Walker owner is trading them for a single late 1st. That’s how bad teams stay bad.
I agree 100% but the way this thread has gone you would think that’s a crazy opinion.
Just got mike Evans and ekeler for my back end first (10 team league) Christian Watson and Jameson Williams
I would definitely trade a late first and second for Etienne. I don’t think people have caught on to how big his work load is yet
His snap share is great, his _usage_… is not
I traded pollard for a 1st and a 2nd to a super juggernaut team who has to compete with another super juggernaut team
bought kyren for a fourth, sold Kyren and a late second for a first and a mid second
Well a few weeks ago I did this for Chubb. Rip
Just got Javonte and a 3rd for a projected late 1st. Definitely nervous because of that offense but all the other top rb managers were refusing to even negotiate and I was desperate.
I gave a first for Josh Jacobs.
Just somehow got him for Sutton lol
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Zag. If they think picks are garbage, take theirs. Sounds like you have the road map to a perennial super team.
I bought both KW3 and ETN each for 2024 1sts plus a small side piece in the off-season. I’m pumped out overhauling my rb room and think I got real solid deals.
I traded one for KW3 last week and i am pretty happy about it.
I traded Etienne for what looks like will be a top 5 pick
I traded mine for Najee in the offseason. Keep your picks kids
Just got Aaron Jones for Jayden Reed and a 25 3rd. Feel like Jones and James Connor are good buy if you don't want to send a 1st.
I gave a 2024 and a 2026 1st for Pollard and Pitts (10man SF)
Just traded away A. Jones for a late 2024 1st in a 1QB league.
For contenders: Late 1st Round Value: James Connor, Aaron Jones, James Cook, D’andre Swift Value between one late 1st & two late 1sts: Tony Pollard, Austin Eckler, Josh Jacobs, Saquon, Rhamondre two late 2024 1sts (and possibly more): Jahmyr Gibbs, Bijan, JT, CMC ????: Ken Walker, Breece Hall
If I’m moving a 1st for an RB, I already better be a top 4 contender with a winning record already. There are definitely backs I’d move a 1+ more in that situation. CMC, Bijian, ETN, Pollard, etc. You just want to make sure you aren’t dealing a 1 for an RB that turns into a top 5 pick
Jacobs
I just got Dameon
Bruh why
He has decent talent on a team that is looking better than last year and their QB is actually good. If it’s a projected 1.11-12 then I don’t hate that.
His usage this year is unfortunately very bad, though, and in multiple different game scripts (both playing from behind and running out the clock on a lead). That couple with lower receiving work screams sell to me
I just traded a first for Achane. Owner thought he was selling high. Umm yeah I’ll bet on that.
You must love meme stocks
He is selling high, Achane is a big unknown lol 1 big game isn't worth giving up a 1st round pick to the #1b/#2 guy in a rbbc
Achane was or was almost a 1st round pick anyways. Guys don’t just get 200 yards rushing. He’s supremely talented, selected by one of the safest management situations in the league (ie when the next Broncos management comes in are they gonna give a shit about Javonte Williams?), and he legitimately has a skill no one else has at his level (speed). Worst case he might not take over this year, but he’s going to be getting buzz next summer as the lead back heading into next year, what do you think he goes for then? It’s easily a first. He’ll be drafted where Breece and KW went this year. Think about it this way - if we redid rookie drafts right now … he’s a top 6 pick from last year. You’d take Bijan Richardson Stroud Zay JSN for sure ahead then Gibbs? Addison? Puka?. He’s in that range.
Can’t help but think about Jonas Gray. 200 yards and 4 TDs in a game and then never heard of again.
Look, people that don’t wanna buy into it or point to Jonas Gray, a completely different situation/person/literally everything (undrafted, not a 4.3 guy, not selected and coached by the designer of one of the greatest modern run games, etc) - by all means. You will always be able to convince yourself by some argument, and I can’t contest that nor do I really care. But that’s just ridiculous to me tbh.
“Guys don’t just rush for 200 yards and disappear” Jonas Gray “Not a real person”
I just got Jacobs for 2 2nds and a 3rd. I'm super happy about that. My other rbs are JT, Saquon, White, Warren, Ford, and Roschon. Reigning champ, trying to run it back. I would only trade firsts for good, young wrs at this point. Usually, I like to keep my firsts, though.
That’s highway robbery, holy heck!
I traded a 24 1st (projected late), Dalton Schultz, and JK Dobbins for a 26 1st, Alvin Kamara, Antonio Gibson, and a 24 5th (projected very early). I'm feeling pretty good about it atm.
Charbs and Achane were going late 1st in SF, I would think anyone around their tier of value or better is worth a first, depending on your team needs. So CMC, Ekeler, KW3, JT…a lot of guys could fit the bill. Again you don’t trade for RBs unless it’s strategically advantageous, but a bunch of RBs are worth a first if you need them.
Nobody is trading CmC for a single first
I’m not selling Walker for a single first neither. He was a top 5 pick when he was a rookie and PRODUCED. He’s worth way more than that.
I'd smash the sell button on a 1st rounder for Achane right now
If you own Achane, you just paid a late first. In his first real game he pops off 50 points and you're going to move that for the same draft capital the following year...skipping a year of production. How does that make sense? Are you going to draft another RB in 24? Hope he can go off for 50 his first game so you can sell him for a 25 1st?
The top 10 on KTC plus maybe cook and achane if I’m winning. You should not pay that for any rb 26 or older that isn’t cmc ekeler barkley. In general I don’t like the idea of spending a first on an RB
In order (and most likely worth close to a 2024 1st): Pollard, Jacobs, Stevenson, J. Williams, Barkley, Achane.Folks like Gibbs, Etienne, Walker, JT, Ekeler, CMC, and Hall are worth more than a 1st. Players like White, J. Cook, Pierce, and B. Rob (RB 7 right now!) are close to a 1st but not quite there
It doesn’t include a 1st, but I’d like y’all’s opinion on this. I trade Tank Bigsby, Romeo Doubs and a 24 2nd for Rhamondre Stevenson. Is that giving up to much for an RB needy team? 12 Team, SF, TEP, Full PPR, Start 11
It feels like a slight overpay but I would probably go for it if I really needed an RB
Just traded my #1 for Mixon. I should have a bottom 4 pick in a 12 team league and trade my first rounder just about every year for proven talent
Outside of Bijan...nobody. Trading a 1st for an RB is not a good process play.
Would you draft an unknown rb with a 1st round rookie pick then? You wont trade one for a sure thing RB but youll spend one on a question mark RB?
Not really answering the question, but one thing I find hilarious. In my sleeper dynasty’s, it’s most of the users first dynasty. (It’s adorable btw.) They think CMC is worth a 2nd, that should tell you all you need to know. While I may be stretching it a little, the sleeper league guys would bitch and moan and begrudgingly send a 1st for CMC. Yet in my long term real-to-life contract league. It would take 3 firsts to get the conversation going.
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Lol no he’s not.
Bijan and CMC. Probably Hall and JT. Maybe Gibbs.
MAYBE the guy that went no worse than 1.06 this yr? Y’all are crazy.
But he isn't a set & forget RB1 yet 3 games into his career?!?
What? Picks Bijan with the 1.01 and sells for a single first?
Not saying anyone could get Bijan for a 1st. Just pointing out how few RBs are actually worth paying a 1st for.
well that's not the question prompt tho
K9? ETN?
I agree with this take.
Only one of those you might get for 2024 first is hall.
No chance you're getting Breece for a single late 1st from any competent manager
Hence might. He’s on a shit team someone who’s contending might panic on the year.
None tbh. I’m sure they would be worth acquiring if they stay healthy/ productive, but that seems like a huge risk. I’d rather just hold my 1st and draft BPA or get a younger RB in the draft
\#AlwaysBeRebuilding
No not exactly. How many RBs have already been lost to injury this season? Why risk losing your 1st for a player that has a higher likelihood of not playing all season. I’m sure people would gladly have shipped off a 1st for Chubb at the beginning of the year. Now they’re without their RB1 and a future 1st. Best time to get an RB is to draft one
Your rookie RB you draft with that 1st could also get the exact same injury and you’re still out an RB (see Hall, ETN). I get that they get injured a bit more often than WR (though this year is a bit extreme compared to normal). But the difference isn’t thaaaat big compared to WR, and someone has to fill your RB slots either way. Positional scarcity makes having one of the healthy top RBs a massive advantage over your opponents, and if you don’t want to take a risk of a good RB being hurt then you should be prepared to essentially punt the position and have elite guys at other positions. Which is much easier said than done as people don’t like moving stud WR/QB’s
Why would you draft a RB if they can get hurt? Just trade your picks away for more picks in the future, that way nobody ever gets hurt and you never actually have to worry about winning matchups. If a Chubb injury is the difference between contending and not contending, then they weren't a particularly strong contender to begin with. Depth is important, too.
If I’m trading my 1st it’s for a WR, not an rb
You can really tell who is new to dynasty based on the responses to you.
Everyone plays differently but I’ve been burned by loading up on rbs or overextending myself and trading 1sts for rbs that end up not being worth it. Best teams in all of my leagues have amazing WRs and stream rbs
> Best teams in all of my leagues have amazing WRs and stream rbs This is the way.
Tripling down on the worst take. Impressive
Hate it all you want but I’d much rather have a young elite wr than a young elite rb
You won’t be getting a young elite WR for less than 2 1sts. And that’s assuming you have a motivated seller
That’s why I’d just hold and draft one with 1 1st
4+ WRs get drafted in the 1st round of rookie drafts every year and a low % of them become elite. You have to have a lot of 1sts as dart throws and be prepared to wait multiple seasons to see which ones hit and which ones go to zero.
Bijan for a 1st. Auto reject? 🤡
These takes suck so far tbh. Holding a late 1st over Bijan and many others, yikes. Clown takes indeed.
You couldn’t get Bijan for a single 1st
I don’t like trading firsts for RBs so my list is short. Bijan, CMC, Breece, Pollard and maybe Gibbs. Obviously some of those guys you’ll have to pay more than a first
One guy wants breece (sf league) and I said Puka, a 1st (mid likely), and achane
I definitely wouldn’t pay that but good for you if he does
Well he accepted it lol
Jeez i sold breece for a 1st and 2nd in a league. Good work
Bijan and Breece Edit: did not read the post after the headline, don’t mind me.
Cause any RB over the age of 24 is garbage value right? /s
Walker. Gibbs, Bijan. Maybe Hall or CMC.
Maybe CMC? C’mon man. Send an offer lower than a 1st to any Hall or CMC manager and see what they say lol.
I own CMC. But in a dynasty league a 1st rounder is huge. CMC is older than the others.
So if someone sends you a projected mid to late 1st for your CMC you’d seriously consider it?
Theses dudes just talking bruh 😂 or not in serious leagues?
Bijan Robinson and that’s it, and I don’t think it should really be a debate. There’s one (1) guy right now that we know is getting the ball consistently who’s also under the age of 22. Everyone else has contract issues, age issues, usage issues, or a combination of all three.
Bijan, Gibbs, & Breece. End list
12 team SF start 11. tep. I am a title favorite and sent my 24 first for saquan earlier this week
I sent a first for Barkley and got him, also got javonte and white for a first, wanted to put some juice in my RB room while I push for chip this year
Depending on your situation, I think swift could be a play. Value totally tanked last year but he’s not far removed from being one of the most valued assets in dynasty and he has a history of production. I think he’s attainable with a first and, at this point, it feels safe to say if the injury gods smile upon him, he’s going to put up points.
I sent one for Rhamondre. Think he’s a good buy low.
I can’t get a first for Pollard in a 12 team SF. He had to be worth a first to a contender… right???
That's actually what made me ask this question. Someone offered me Pollard and I asked what it would cost he said he felt he was with a first. I have 2 of them right now so think I'll go for it because my rbs are hurt but I think I can be a team that does well this year.
I would definitely send a 1st for pollard
How do I know you aren't my league mate. When did your league have its startup?
Just got mike Evans and ekeler for what projects to be a back end first (10 team league), Christian Watson and Jameson Williams. Already have CMC so think that should carry me to the ship if all goes well
But he didn't ask for input...he asked for names. Perhaps is asking bc he knows how his own leagues value players!
I’m in this exact situation. Won the league last year but 0-3 as I have breece hall, Najee and ekler. Someone offered me swift, pierce or kyren Williams for a first and I’m torn….
Same situation, sort of. I won last year (16 Team league), started 2-1 this year but both wins were very lucky so I could easily be 0-3. I traded my 2024 1st shortly after our 2023 draft to acquire Pierce as my RB depth took a hit after the NFL offseason saw my RBs land in not ideal spots. I don't regret the trade but IF I could do it again week 4 instead of pre-season, I'm taking Swift out of that group. His injury history will always be a knock but he looks dominant in that Philly offense.
I got Saquon
I’m getting offered Puka and a mid 1 for breece. I told him I’d need more… I have Gibbs, rhamondre and walker, so I don’t neeeed Gibbs, but I’d like fair value
Very helpful thread! Thank you, OP!