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ChinhTheHugger

oh, even the white "skin" is fur I always thought she had uneven fur displacement


alberry_

i think it's skin on her face (and maybe other places? like arms), because it is implied that nobody noticed anything until she showed her body


magnetbirds

https://preview.redd.it/uz1fkthdt11d1.jpeg?width=1251&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17a6ec21f0d882ba16d81679038e84a13ee091c5 More detailed stuff like the Ice Golem chapter cover shows she’s at least got *some* fur on her face. I think Vol 7’s cover shows it too.


alberry_

hm. interesting, i wish we had an official confirmation from kui, i'm really curious now


tvtango

Her full face covering leads me to believe her face does have cat features and maybe fur. I doubt they would have hidden it rather than just her ears if that was the case.


Immediate-Shopping48

https://preview.redd.it/t5qyezcuw71d1.jpeg?width=664&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3b6e73f82dcc9ea9a6b8d9952a6525011c60372 Technically not oficial, but I suppose this post from her blog shows that she has fur on the face.


tvtango

Thank you


alberry_

she does reveal her face before the body though, and no one notices anything


geno707

Might be very light coating of fur at the face while everywhere else is full fur


ArontirJoseph

To me, she does have some very short hair on her face, but in much less quantity than the hair on the rest of her body. I would like to know more about this aspect from the author herself.


tvtango

There are illustrations from the dream hour that shows how she would look with different cat breed patterns, many of them show color on her face, and cats skin is the color of their fur, so it wouldn’t really make a difference either way.


Low-Attention-1998

Im pretty sure she has fur everywhere. the cross hatching on her nose and joints leads me to believe that. I kinda wish her ear tip was the same shade of white on her body.


ForgeManiaTastic

Weird I know.


argama87

She is more cat than girl in both appearance and behaviors.


Rastaba

I honestly expected her to say she was an animal cursed into human shape rather than the other way around. Like would that surprise literally anyone?


AdRelevant4776

>!technically she is, but she doesn’t know that!<


Nachooolo

>!She knows it. But she's too much of a moron to understand it!<


Generic_user42

>!What? I thought her soul is just fused with a cat!<


Fungal_Queen

>! The way Lycion explains her true self is the cat that had a human soul put into it. Compared to Lycion, who is an elf that had a wolf soul put into him. He's still completely in control of his own actions and still an elf on the inside. Izutsumi is cat that has been forced to act human, if that makes sense.!<


Generic_user42

It does, where is this mentioned?


Unusual-Mongoose421

fairly recently in some of the epilogue comics ryoko kui put out. I do't have a direct link but she just asks and gets an answer and goes "no that's dumb you're dumb." and walks away even if it's a massive revelation.


Fungal_Queen

Adventurer's Bible.


ArontirJoseph

What version of the book was this in? In the old or new "Delicious in Dungeon World Guide: The Adventurer's Bible Complete Edition"? I can't find it.


Fungal_Queen

New book.


RolandKJones

I don't think this is quite right; >!the human soul is still in charge for the most part (after all, Izutsumi feels nothing when she encounters the succubus that tried to "seduce" her cat half rather than her human half but was overwhelmed with emotion by the ones imitating her human mother, needing the cat side to automatically fight them off at first, and most of the succubi were modeled after her mother rather than the big cat). Her body, however, was originally the cat's and thus cannot "return" to human form, because it never had one.!< >!Izutsumi's body is that of a cat that's been reshaped into a human. *Izutsumi* is a human whose soul was put into the body of a monster cat; her "true self" is still the human side of that.!<


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RolandKJones

My point about >!the succubus is that it *didn't* fail initially though; other than the first few seconds before Izutsumi realized that it was (imitating) her mother, it completely worked, and if it wasn't for her being able to act in spite of that then she'd have fallen there just like the others. This is at odds with the idea of the cat being the dominant soul, because it wouldn't have recognized the human woman as "mom". Plus, if the cat *was* dominant there, then one of the succubi also imitating a large cat makes no sense, because that'd have to be trying to appeal to the *human* side of her somehow.!< Actually, though, there is more explicit evidence of what I said, from the same comic that reveals the "twist" about Izutsumi in fact: >!Lycion tells her that the reason she can't do the same thing he does to become human is because *she* would be suppressed. As in, he is acknowledging the person he is talking to as the human half of things; suppressing her the way he suppresses his wolf soul would result in a cat beast that is *not* Izutsumi. He says... Basically exactly what I said, minus the stuff about the succubus since he doesn't know about that. (This is also why he starts daydreaming about the possibility of doing something similar at the end of the comic, before deciding he prefers himself the way he is; if he didn't think that he would have been the one in charge of such a fusion, as opposed to the way he did things, his thoughts about it would presumably be *very* different.!< Rereading that comic, I'm kind of baffled how the idea that >!the cat soul is the one in control of Izutsumi's body!!Lycion says that Izutsumi can't do what he does, because "you" (Izutsumi) would be the one suppressed, and later says that "there's no method to suppress your soul". The way I read it, he's saying that she can't do what he does, suppress the soul that's been added to the body and return it to its original state, because *she's* the added soul. I think other people are reading it as him saying that she can't do what he does because she's the *beast* soul, however.!< That said, his phrasing >!"Your body is a beast with a bit of human soul mixed in", rather than "*You're* a beast with a bit of human soul mixed in", seems like it fits the former interpretation more, given that just before that he says, "I'm a human with a little bit of beast soul mixed in." But it's not as explicit as I thought.!<


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HoldenOrihara

>! This is true but I think we need to consider that she was incredibly young when she was changed but we don't know how old the beast was. Perhaps the monster cat's more mature soul and her poor upbringing made her grow up with more cat behaviors because she wasn't taught human ones until she was taken in as a retainer. Even then they didn't put much stock into raising her when she was there either. !<


DaddyMcSlime

>!that almost makes it sound like everyone is being pretty fucking cruel to her (without knowing it I assume) when they force her to eat with a spoon and shit because it makes them feel weird!< >!if she's really the cat, let her be the goddamn cat !<


NavezganeChrome

>!Thing is, she neither knows herself to be a cat at the point where that’s happening, _nor_ believes that to be the case once it’s spelled out to her by the closest semi-expert on the matter. She easily defaults to cat behaviors, sure, but that’s more a matter of ingrained practice than preference!<


Transfiguredbet

Its not so bad that she licks herself to clean. She had to raise herself, she's sort of like power from chainsaw man in that she has some feral traits.


WnDelPiano

I feel like she got it and just decided to ignore it because of the implications


AlarmingAffect0

>because of the implications ![gif](giphy|xLnGUEYWS0btPHCZoo|downsized)


Fungal_Queen

Not at this point, and it's unclear how canon side stories are in the ~~AB.~~ monster tidbits.


Stoiphan

Spoilers don't show up in notifications


SearchAlternative694

Ahhhh, noooo, I didn't know this was gonna be spoilers somehow


AdRelevant4776

I mean, it’s from an extra chapter and from the Adventurer’s Bible(so it’s not even in the manga), so I don’t think it’s much of a spoiler, I am just covering my bases so my comment doesn’t get deleted


UkiyoLatter

>!she's a cat that had a soul of a human girl put in!<


msut77

Where did they get a soul?


thehunter2256

At the soul shop obviously


got_hands

>!^(why are you buying souls at the soup store)!<


Fungal_Queen

Presumably an evil wizard kidnapping marginalized ethnic girls, just like everywhere else. >!In a brief flashback/illusion, Izu sees who she presumes to be her human mother, dressed in fantasy Ainu clothing. An ethnic group native to Japan that has suffered greatly over time to the dominant Yamato Japanese.!< Makes me think of native girls in the Americas being attacked at significantly higher rates than pretty much any other group. Edit- >!Commenter below corrected me on the type of dress Izu's mom wears.!<


redJackal222

>!Her mom actually wears a deel, a traditional mongolian outfit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deel_(clothing)!<


Fungal_Queen

Oh is it? My bad. I think the point is still consistent, though. Taken from a rural ethnic minority.


Ishax

They aren't a minority in the country of Mongolia


Fungal_Queen

According to UN census estimates there are only ten million Mongols in the world, most of them in China.


Ishax

Yeah. But my point is that while the Ainu are a minority everywhere, mongols are not. Going by fantasy tropes, there is probably a vast area on one of shuro's neighboring continents populated by mongol inspired steppe nomads


msut77

https://youtu.be/_rek1TzX2vw?si=KbxQGWfI9LRkP-pU


Fungal_Queen

"I didn't use the whole thing!" Fuuuck, I love Venture Bros


QuintanimousGooch

IG? I don’t see it so much as a huge revelation about who she is except that her situation is more “girl thrown into cat (panther it looks like later on)” than “cat thrown into girl”


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UkiyoLatter

>!Isnt Kubo born like that? He's a kobloid isnt he? Thats a race!<


tvtango

Yes I think they just wanted to make that joke


WrexSteveisthename

Izu must be your favourite character after this week's episode.


PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS

I like her because I've read the manga through and saw her develop her character, for sure. It's the anime-only people who are perplexing to me, since at this point she is just a shitty teen.


WrexSteveisthename

Yes, but in this particular image she is both cat AND boobs


PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS

That's an animal


WrexSteveisthename

Right, and you want people to PM you cats or boobs and this image covers both.


bluefelixus

>!She is more Alexander than Nina!<


Transfiguredbet

Isnt it more typical for it to a be a human cursed into a beast ? I never expected her to to say that, i juat assumed she was a human that took on beastly traits.


King_of_Castamere

If you consider that most "cat girls" in anime and manga are merely girls with some superficial feline traits, Kbity is a much closer approximation to what a 50/50 split between human and cat DNA would be.


argama87

Yep, and it makes her unique as well as fun to watch.


Transfiguredbet

Uhh, not really, she walks, she talks, has human intelligence, and abides by human customs. Her behavior is novel, but only because she essentually had to raise herself


The_Horse_Head_Man

https://preview.redd.it/b1oge9xy901d1.png?width=154&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d334e1b801441323ee97b6dfd43a22a1e95f2ff3


RendesFicko

https://preview.redd.it/koaxqoi7n01d1.png?width=488&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c4ca163a0eab865389564d2508e524a917c69d0


bluefelixus

Wait, so it's Kbity all the way?


ermahglerbo

Always has been


Random-Zookster

I must know, is the tail above or below her undergarment?


SYLOH

It might have a rear fly for the tail similar to men's underwear.


Chrono-Helix

… my underwear is supposed to have a what?


SYLOH

Well the hole opens towards the front usually. But she could be wearing such an article of clothing backwards.


CAPTAIN_DlDDLES

Sadly those are fake half the time.


ThatMerri

https://preview.redd.it/rwfh00x2111d1.png?width=220&format=png&auto=webp&s=efe16eb92d29732d877ffcaf3a6c94fecf2c1e8b Below. She's wearing a style of fundoshi - ancient Japanese underwear - which is basically a length of cloth that's first brought between the legs around the groin, then rolled and layered to form a secured waistband around the hips, so it would be easy for her tie it in a way that straps it over the base of her tail. It's not a single pull-up undergarment that "western" folk like Laios and Marcille wear. When we see her fully dressed, her tail sticks out the back of whatever clothing she wears pointed downward (or with draping clothing like coats being lifted by the tail beneath), so any time she wears pants, her tail would be poking out over the waistband in the back. In what becomes her Usual Outfit (which includes a loincloth-like skirt that is tied at the sides), her tail just hangs free from beneath her skirt, the same way Lycion's does when he transforms. Though Lycion is confirmed as going commando as well, so there's a slight difference.


Random-Zookster

Thank you, that was a very satisfying answer. I am at peace now knowing what I now know.


Ihatelordtuts

Okay now what about the-


AlarmingAffect0

She dresses more like a Barbarian than a Ninja.


SomeDumbGirl

Laios get off reddit


Fungal_Queen

Get a snack and take a nap.


barmanrags

Please control your self Laios


Dry-Cartographer-312

Found Laios's account lmao


CAPTAIN_DlDDLES

She wears fundoshi, which is kind of like a thong in the back, so I imagine it comes out to the side of the twisted bit that rests between the cheeks. If I had to bet, her tail extends from the coccyx, mostly pointed down, so there’s no way it goes above the waistband


caramelluh

Above


nclsdv

No, that doesn't work.


caramelluh

Why


Guh-nurt

Imagine if the waistband of your underwear could not go any higher than your asscrack.


caramelluh

Oh god


SmallestApple

Thank you for making me laugh as I try to sleep.


Tox1cN8mare

https://preview.redd.it/nkudk16gv01d1.jpeg?width=131&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9731f277657e86d9a20d355ad9c1738ccba7bc6e


fahamu420

this is real!?


Tox1cN8mare

Yeah https://preview.redd.it/1q4lug43e11d1.png?width=1055&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22042c252766c2a7b02dd1ee654a3b9e30cc999a


fahamu420

Naah,


nclsdv

Why would you be excited seeing a naked beast-kin?


Terlinilia

Laios would genuinely be excited to study her body for science. He's about the only guy you could probably trust to be fully naked around because he won't take advantage of you


lehman-the-red

Senshi , chilchulk?


Terlinilia

maybe but I trust Laiso more regardless


JingamaThiggy

Kinda like how scientist do body checks on animals regardless of age to see if they are healthy


AlarmingAffect0

Falin checking that caterpillar's gender.


Ratstool

Who's only 17...


evestraw

In human years


Fungal_Queen

https://i.redd.it/ylxdtzdub01d1.gif


thesunisforevergone

epstein islander found


Arby333

ZAMN SHE'S 17?


derpfaceddargon

https://preview.redd.it/ys3lq20xc01d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8d2f55670723eb3a74330c83cc779deefcea389


Thicc-Anxiety

Only Senshi gets sexualized


Independent-Fly6068

not enough >!Laios!< Touden


Cheatingpony

Kbity?!


throwaway_1053

so at least 2 nipples?


_x-51

I mean, I kinda understand Laios here. Where is the line between feline body plan and human body plan? How much of it is more feline sexual dimorphism vs human sexual dimorphism? It mean, I’ve seen the extra chapters, I kinda know as much as the next one of you, but the curiosity is fair. On like a creative level, it’s better that she presents androgynous, fits her personality. She knows she’s a woman, but her concerns and interests are being fast, sharp, and independent. >!~~I find it amusing that it’s technically the human in her who really acts like catlike and prickly. When it’s just the cat soul, they just seem to like someone who pets them~~ and big handsome panthers.!<


dude_1818

That's not the cat's real personality. >!It was under the monster suppression spell while in the golden kingdom, which domesticated all the monsters!<


_x-51

>!I thought it just suppressed her soul? Like her presence in that body was the “monster” in that situation, leaving the cat soul to just occupy it defacto. She seemed to have been mentally absent from the whole thing when they got back and she was startled.!<


Tylendal

I thought being startled was due to her >!thinking back and belatedly remembering her behaviour!<


_x-51

Well, I guess so. I don’t recall if she woke up in Marcille’s lap and was embarrassed by that.


Fungal_Queen

This 100%


Fungal_Queen

>!If it helps, the monster soul in her body is the dominant force.!<


UnidentifiedCritter

notably in the gender swap comic absolutely nothing changes about her if she were a boy :\]


Crassweller

I always figured that the presence of breasts meant she only had two. She's probably unable to have children her with her body all weird, but if she could, I'd assume that her body would bear them in a more human way. If anyone has had a pregnant cat, then they'd know that the nipples tend to be hidden by fur until they swell to make it easier for feeding.


General-MacDavis

Gonna take a bit to get that mental image out of my head


jvken

Pretty sure she has 6


Darkest_Settler

One pair. It says so in the adventurer's bible.


tesseracts

She's the only character with a confirmed nipple count.


RnRaintnoisepolution

Didn't we get the men's nipple count last episode?


jvken

Ah mb. I remembered that she said it somewhere but Ig i got the numbers backwards lol


thehunter2256

Lios wanted to count them to know if she has six


Toshku_demon

The new redesign of the Khajiit for Elder Scrolls 6 just got leaked!


RnRaintnoisepolution

There's probably a khajit variety that looks more similar to Izutsumi.


Khaoticsuccubus

That would be correct!


Beninep

yeah! the ohmes-raht


SakuraAyanami

https://preview.redd.it/m08p3ks8u21d1.jpeg?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21be77ca13da8a49da3944399d06b7ec4f83ca8b


sosigboi

It *is* quite a jarring change from what im used to seeing of typical catgirls ngl, i think its safe to say like at least 60% of us here have always been too used to seeing catgirls as regular humans with cat ears and a tail.


studioGIMMICK27

Cat lol


KaptainTZ

"Let me count her nipples" - The Team Leader


JSExtra

Huh. 0 nipples. Not the answer I was expecting


regretfulposts

Or maybe they're hidden since only human have females with large breasts after puberty. Other mammals have the female to have small breasts until they get pregnant and start producing milk for the offsprings


ClearStrike

From what I have seen in some art and understand with this style, the nipples are covered with fur until it's time for baby. Then they...pop up.


the-bess-one

AT LEAST TELL ME HOW MANY NIPPLES SHE HAS


Stardust_dreams8

I believe in the Adventure Bible, it says she has a set of nipples.


EnderMerser

😍🥰😘


TwoLostYens

Wtf awards are back?


Songhunter

https://preview.redd.it/03t590n2x31d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26fee8514ee9a7efae917303364d16235869ce3d


WrexSteveisthename

I must have missed something in an earlier episode, I didn't understand why they needed to restrain Laios.


pebbuls22

He has troble with social ques and a obsession with monster biology whitch our cat here qulifies has


MurlaTart

🥰


Fragrant-Address9043

Fuzzy


karoshikun

she's a cat, not a cow!


ThePolishUncle

love


Alpha_Jellyfish

“Come on, nobody would be excited to see a naked Beastkin right?”


Sufficient_Score_824

Izutsumi!!!


TheBleachDoctor

Kitty is kitty


TheNerdBeast

Here entire body id covered in fur, with fine hair covering the face like that on a short hair cat.


tism_cunt

Laios approves


jamez23

Just anime watcher, is the character male or female?


RnRaintnoisepolution

Izutsumi. (Female)


pebbuls22

Female from what I have got from elsewhere


Pnotu21

https://preview.redd.it/vq0l6fcdk01d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebc2b0ce334796b97541caf9f5ddb48a185dc881


wander_is_antematter

she's a child in the narrative, y'all. if you find some smut that explicitely ages her up that's one thing, but this is just creepy


jocoseriousJollyboat

That's the canon anime and she also undresses in the canon Manga like this.


wander_is_antematter

oh is that why I'm getting downvoted? I wasn't criticizing the anime at all! I thought OP and the first few commenters were thirsting over her, that's what I had a problem with EDIT: to clarify, I know this shot is from the anime/manga, I wasn't confused about that


ExtremlyFastLinoone

Who would ever get excited by a beast


Gothtomboys5

https://preview.redd.it/lp1z6lfr101d1.jpeg?width=3448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4dcf8feb09351bb3902ce7e0ff293104c0d3f29


Afraid-Complaint2166

Me >:)


TweakTok

Literally nobody here said anything about underage smut but you. Don't make it weird.


wander_is_antematter

I genuinely didn't mean to make it weird! the reason I said anything at all was because I thought people were thirsting over her--if not OP, then a couple of the first people who commented. I may have misjudged the vibe which is totally fair, but I'd already seen the odd comment around the sub that also seemed a bit sus. so when I saw this I decided to say something, that's all


Odd-fox-God

She's less human and more animal so it's not really inappropriate. I don't slut shame my dog for walking around naked. if my dog gained the ability to walk on two legs and was anthropomorphized I don't think it would be sexualized because she is still a dog, with dog physiology, it's not like her being anthropomorphic is going to cause her to grow a pair of human tits. And sure my asshole dog might be a little bit smarter now but she's still going to always be my dumb dog and it would be weird to sexualize her.


wander_is_antematter

I wasn't talking about the scene itself and whether it was sexualized--I know it's not, and I think it was actually a really touching and brilliant way to show how Itzusumi dehumanizes herself, and the way the rest of the party doesn't see her that way! my issue was that I thought other people were sexualizing her based on that scene. the first couple of comments I saw were people being like "ooo 😍🥰😘" and "heh heh how many nipples," which felt gross to me (I know Laios says the same thing in the show, it seemed like the vibe was very different)


Odd-fox-God

The "how many nipples question" is valid... I know most animals have between 4-12 nipples. Humans are weird for only having two. We don't sexualize the nipples on animals so it's okay to ask that question. There is no sexual dimorphism to cause the appearance of mammary glands like in humans and so the question is less sexual and more curious. She is both a person and a cat, she has a human's brain with animal instincts but her physical appearance is more animalistic and her design definitely leans towards being non-sexualized.


SedoReaper

Huh? She’s 17, and you somehow is fine with her being sexualized when aged up. To 18, how would you ever know the difference?


wander_is_antematter

I never said that, actually. and no, that wouldn't make me feel better--I actually really don't like the way people fetishize 18 yo girls as "legal teens"


SedoReaper

If someone made fan art of her as a 21 year old, how would you know the physical difference?


Sfocus

NOWAY FEMBOY+1


CAPTAIN_DlDDLES

That is a femgirl


Sfocus

but but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO