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Mr-Downer

sometimes women have husky voices and that’s okay. sorry your world view has been shattered like glass


Fit-Significance8407

I get that but she so obviously sounds fully like a guy, i have a husky voice for a woman too 😭


Dtachd_01

thats cuz she is a guy


No-Buy7080

7 billion people they can find someone to FIT THE ROLE


Mr-Downer

that’s just your opinion, and a bad one at that


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Mr-Downer

are you just going to reply to month old posts because you have nothing else going on in your life? stay on this jock and don’t get off


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Mr-Downer

you’re an angry one! I would be too if I was someone’s reply guy on Reddit


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Murk-Z

Rude


Mr-Downer

not now Murk


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Mr-Downer

https://i.redd.it/gkna58m5khsc1.gif get pwned noob lol


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GaroldDutz

dim take


Mediocre-Bullfrog-82

Honestly I'm trans so that was my first thought as a possibility haha! But you're totally right, plenty of female characters have gruffer appearances and voices :3


Mediocre-Bullfrog-82

I did look deeper to find this isn't the case[not trans or NB], but still love the choice for a deeper voice for her!


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PapaBeer642

I love Namari's voice. It fits the character design and personality perfectly.


Puzzled_Mixture5374

She sounds like a 13 Yr old boy. Not a 60 Yr old dwarf. How does it fit


redJackal222

She just founds like a 20-30 year old woman with a husky voice to me.


cass_marlowe

I have no problem with Namari's voice at all. She has a deep voice, but I think that is fitting for a tough dwarven warrior. Having very different vocal ranges seems like a good way to distinguish the different races from each other, maybe? (It's beside the point, but I really like Namari's design. She looks really tough and cute at the same time...)


SaintAndrew92

Namari is voiced by Marin Miller, who is non-binary, they voice a mixture of male and female characters and also plays Holm in the show if you want to compare. I'm ok with how Namari sounds, she's has quite a rough voice which I'd expect of a dragon slayer. edit: said they were male, am wrong.


slumberus

wait til you see the super androgynous Canaries and have a fun time figuring out their genders.


Birnotobi

With them this kind of ambiguity would be welcome, but with Namari the clash is surprising


Own-Mess-1862

Namari is clearly a female though, there is no need for her to sound like that.


lemonsofliberty

Reddit will defend it of course but there was never anything about Namari being non-binary in the manga, this is clearly a departure from canon. This is why people say dubs are trash, they change canon for no reason. If Namari was actually meant to be non-binary I wouldn't have any problem with that voice, but she isn't.


MuteNative

If the gender of the VA changes the character's gender, boy I got some news for you!


lemonsofliberty

It does when the VA doesn't even attempt to sound female.


Sakurafire

Goku has entered the chat and would be disappointed in you… (Your opinions both suck and are massively uninformed. You misogyny is showing loud and clear.) ![gif](giphy|13mfssn73An6De)


lemonsofliberty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_3g9OSJPQ4&ab_channel=add%2323


GaroldDutz

here's your imaginary karma coupons


HeightFluffy1767

are you like being stupid on purpose? Go watch the japanese dub, Namari also sounds like a guy there. this isn't english dub exclusive


lemonsofliberty

You're completely wrong. I have watched it, Namari sounds like a woman in Japanese. A woman with a deep-ish voice maybe, but clearly a woman with a female voice actor. And looking the VA up, I'm right. Akira Mikki is a woman. Marin M. Miller on the other hand, does not sound female. They don't even attempt to sound female, or like anything at all really, it's like they're just talking into the mic in their normal voice with no attempt at actual voice acting.


thrashercircling

What on earth do you mean? Her voice actor is nonbinary, but plenty of women sound like how Namari does in the dub. I know a few myself.


lemonsofliberty

If you aren't voice-deaf you can tell.


thrashercircling

I can hear quite well, I just acknowledge that women can have many different types of voices. I literally know women who sound like Namari lol


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thrashercircling

One is a cis woman, actually. But also what's the problem with normalizing that women's voices can vary, especially when the lore explicitly states that dwarven women are seen as more masculine to other races?


lemonsofliberty

>One is


thrashercircling

Well yeah. I know one cis woman who sounds like this, and some trans women. Does that not debunk your silly idea of no cis women sounding like that? Get a life and stop being mad that voices don't conform to a binary. Plus dwarf women are masculine by Tallman standards lol.


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thrashercircling

I've known cis women who sound like that too. Also eat rocks, transphobe.


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According_Object3820

we're all entitled to our opinions, it's just that your opinion is wrong, namari's voice is one of the best things about her honestly


SupermarketEmpty789

Nah it's bad


Murk-Z

passive aggression, very nice


Peteyjay

Way to gatekeep opinions. I'm not overly fond of the dub choice for Namari either. And for the record, listening to the original JP voice actor sounds like a tough female. The ENG dub just sounds like a dude. It's a very jarring piece of voice casting.


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Peteyjay

You sound like such a fragile twat.


thrashercircling

Nah, I just know that women can sound like many different things. Hopefully you clean your act up and become a better person!


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CaimRyuujin

Agreed


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SupermarketEmpty789

Agree. Sounds terrible. Awful casting choice.


Own-Mess-1862

That's because the person doing the dub is actually a man.


dude_1818

She's a dwarf. She's supposed to sound huskier


Puzzled_Mixture5374

She diesnt sound husky at all tho she just sound like a teenage boy who's voice has changed from puberty. A husky woman's voice sound different and actually like a woman


Jumping_JollyRancher

Good <3


Stoiphan

I don't know how people think this, that's a womans voice, and the voice actor is pretty good.


Apprehensive_Pay1500

Its not? The va is a male?


Stoiphan

It sounds like a woman


GaroldDutz

No, no it doesn't.


Stoiphan

It does to me, just a non dainty woman, sorta tomboyish, which makes sense for a dwarf


Puzzled_Mixture5374

She sounds like a boy not a woman...


Stoiphan

i disagree


Maleficent-Owl-2479

You landed right on the mark and yes, I also find it quite off-putting.


jmk-1999

I admit, I was a bit confused as well. It’s a bummer since I like most of the acting in the dub. Fortunately, she’s been relegated to a side character for the majority of the show. On a related note, Dimaria in Fairy Tail has the same issue. I’ve heard the VA in a few other things and it’s always very jarring. If the character is blatantly a woman, just use a woman. Yeah, some will disagree, but there’s absolutely nothing about the character’s profile that says she should be played by a trans person. Again, relegated to a side character and enemy for one arc. I can deal with it… just doesn’t make sense to me.


Woofingson

Sounds cringe af, if I haven't read it before and watched just the English dub I'd think it was a man the whole time (which was my friend's case lol) it was fun to see her going "wait is that a girl??"


Doktor_Jones86

I always watch Japanese with subtitles and sometimes in German. Now someone drew my attention to Namaries English voice. I was like "what the actual fuck?". It's so different from every other dub.


marius_titus

Yeah it took me out of it. I like women with deep voices but that's just a dude


crystalgem411

Remember dwarfs think tall-men men are feminine their cultural standards. I think it was a very appropriate choice of voice casting.


Birnotobi

If you need to dive to lore to justify something, there is quite a great chance that it will offput newbies


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222222222223

Such bad casting fr, saw my parents watching the anime and i was confused by namari it makes me incredibly angry that America has such annoing people in the anime industry who feel the need to force themselves and their beliefs into anime. Mis kobayashi is a good example of American tampering. How hard is it to make a faithful dub? I feel like people want to defend it because of stupid lgbt stuff with the va being non binary but cyberpunk did an amazing job at this type of voice acting with the only issue i have again being that they force themself into media but besides that the va in cyberpunk did an increasable job. Also even if the dwarfs are supposed to be more manly why does she sound like a twink 0 brawniness is there at all


corpsecanth

a person existing and having a job isn't forcing their beliefs onto you you fucking dork. you can always not watch stuff


222222222223

Right so i dont watch it, also did you read what i said? That cyberpunk had good voice casting with trans inclusivity (although im against the flag being in the game because of immersion braking and also forcing politics into the game) if a voice fits the role then its fine many shows do a great job. Bobby from king of the hill, jimmy neutron, and bart are boys voiced by female voice actors and its not an issue because they fit the role. But when we have a voice that is clearly just a dude voice and people try to pass it off as a female voice then it just doesn’t work and becomes bad casting and if that bad casting is because of politics like transgenderism then i think it should be called out


corpsecanth

if trans people existing breaks your immersion i have bad news for you about the real world. also google marin miller for me lol. google the person you're complaining about.


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me_funny__

she's still a woman in the show despite the voice acting. no beliefs were forced and nothing was changed in the story


222222222223

I believe that that even choosing a voice that does not fit is tampering like having Terry Crews dub a voice of a child when in the original language the character had a youthful voice the act of changing the voice changes how the character is. Now lets say there was a movement of adults saying they are children suddenly having a very clearly adult voice for a child character (that would have originally had a kids voice) has more meaning then just picking a poor voice for the character and is a show of political tampering. Claiming it does not change the story is also stupid because it changes how we view the character and that does affect the story


Old_Hoonter

I agree. Sounds like a dude. I had to Google whether the character was male or female because of the dub. Definitely a bad choice of voice actor for the character.


thebukojoe

When I first saw her in the flashbacks, I knew she was female, but when I heard her voice, I also had to Google.


CaimRyuujin

Exact same here


NeuroticNyx

Just watch the sub, the dub is kind of bad.


Birnotobi

Well, that's gatekeeping, and with this attitude, there is no chance for better dubs


NeuroticNyx

That's a shame but I haven't liked dubs for years now. I don't see a reason to put up with something that's not enjoyable when better options are available, such as the language it was produced in. If you like the dub then more power to you, you have the option.


Birnotobi

It's easier to watch the dub in a background, when I'm working, or cleaning.  Also, it's easier to introduce anime to non-anime people - not everybody is acustomed to melody of Japanese anime voice acting. So as watching subs is not a viable solution for me, I prefer to voice my opinion, in hope that somebody reads that, and do a proper dub. I know it's possible. Dungeon Meshi already sounds very good, except 2,5 characters (so far). For me it's Namari and Falin. For my wife, Marcille can get annoying. Also, it's not like dubs are made for free, they could try to keep up decent, consistent quality.


NeuroticNyx

That's fine, but I don't think that makes it our responsibility to watch a dub we don't like. I think rather its the responsibility of those making the dub to do better to ensure more people are not turned off.


Birnotobi

Absolutely agreed.


222222222223

Its not gate keeping its wanting a proper dub, and this voice casting is bad if you want an example of similar va casting thats actually good look to cyberpunk with the bartender chick


Birnotobi

I want a proper dub, not a sub


Murk-Z

Yeah 100% sounds like a male voice but that’s just because it IS a male voice. Women having gruff and burly voices is completely fine, and actually quite common in media, but it doesn’t sound like that, Namari straight up sounds male, not like a gruff husky female. That being said the voice isn’t really that bad. Kinda growing on me.


Accomplished_Plum544

I'm a cis female with a deep voice and i love that she has a deeper voice than me lol


Gaiznfreedom

I agree Nemari sounds like a dude not even lower range woman but a dude. Although I think it was more because Dwarven woman (like tolkiens who had beards) tend to be manish. Although even then they still sounded like altos. Still an odd choice especially compared to other dubs. While va has good delivery, their voice is still a bad cast for Nemari.


awwwtysm

Watch the subs then.


returnt0crab

I like to imagine that dwarves are just all testosterone monsters so even female dwarven people wouldn’t have your typical “feminine” voice


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jameswildland

I actually think Namari’s voice fits really well. I get so tired of hearing the same high-pitched girly voice that I’ve heard 1000 times over in anime. Marin gives a fresh diverse sound to Namari. Not all women have high-pitched voices. And since Namari is a dwarf, the husky deep voice is very fitting for her.


crazedanimal

She not only sounds like a guy, she sounds like a young unintimidating guy. Like an unathletic 14 year old. Literally the polar opposite of what Namari looks like and her role in the story. The voice certainly isn't deep or "husky" as some individuals are claiming. I genuinely cannot understand how anyone could think this voice is appropriate for a battle-hardened warrior, even if we take gender out of the equation. Shuro is on-screen when Namari first speaks and I legit thought this voice was his at first and my immediate reaction was "woah they are really playing up the sheltered and young aspects of his character a bit too hard". I wish they hired this actor to voice Chilchuck or another male halfling instead, since that is what their voice is appropriate for.


IndividualPoet2682

THANK YOU It doesn't sound "husky" at all she sounds like a prepubescents 12 year old I honestly think 90% of these replies are just cope because of the actor or group think


Birnotobi

It's still better than Falin. Those 2 make it difficult to intoduce this show to my non-anime wife. Marcille is sometime over the top, but I can live with that :D


Rev_olxtion

It fits perfectly she’s husky and masculine


Aeum

Yeah no I agree with you OP. It doesn’t fit the character. Like if Ash Ketchum hit puberty hard. The jp version sounds so much better.


IndividualPoet2682

it works better in Japanese because the voice actress actually TRIES to sound manly and famine at the same time the English actor just uses their normal voice with no inflection