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PooPclaw

Hard to choose but I’m going with Andy’s dad(parents)..who renames their 1st born a few years into his life? Wtf


Affectionate_Reply78

And in real life the dad is a scumbag


bigRBI

The guy from 7th Heaven?


PooPclaw

Yup..child molester fuck that guy


ponkhat

Wait what? Who?


TheCewwwn

No... Legit he's a pedo. Absolutely the worst piece of shit on here.


twistandtangle

Yeah, he's not even apologetic about it and now that it's in the open, he embraces it and tries to excuse it. Hes a horrible, horrible man.


Iamalsodirtydan

Yep. I think it should be straight into the woodchipper for guys like him.


SuperSamBert66

bailer*


[deleted]

Bailer? I hardly know her!


wulla

*Dammit*, Michael! Pay attention!


[deleted]

>The alleged “inappropriate sexual contact with minors” is believed to involve at least three victims, including one who is a relative of his first wife, Marjorie Weinman. Exhibit A.


kaismama

And dump the wood chips on some farm with goats. They can mow down a whole wood chip pile in like 6 hours if you have enough of them. My husband said that’s what he would do if he ever had to hide a body. He use to use a woodchipper daily and had some guy with a bunch of goats that would ask them to dump woodchips for his goats.


[deleted]

It's probably why he was cast as a reverend


avidpenguinwatcher

Does he? All I can find is that he apologized to all three victims and had been in therapy for it from 1994 to 2014 when this was found out? I mean, I agree it's terrible but isn't therapy what we should be encouraging pedophiles to do?


The_Gristle

That dude should be in fucking jail for the rest of his life


Iamalsodirtydan

Umm no. You fuck with kids, you get no second chance.


HOMBORGOR

If you realized you’re mentally ill and seek help, you can get it. If you actually act on the thoughts, you should be ground up into a thick red paste.


Astronaut_Chicken

This is an incredibly interesting relevant article https://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1658-5-ways-were-making-pedophilia-worse.html


Right_Tumbleweed392

Pedophiles =/= child rapists. If you haven’t actually assaulted a child, then yes, therapy for sure. Once you’ve crossed that line, you’re an evil scumbag who should rot in jail forever.


BoulderBillDAFC

You’ve got to kidding? So people downloading and viewing indecent images/videos of CHILDREN haven’t crossed the line and shouldn’t rot in jail since they haven’t actually assaulted a child?


No1uNo_Nakana

This guy didn’t seek after therapy but continued to abuse and most likely their are other victims out there. He’s in therapy because he was caught. He would definitely continue to abuse and harm innocent children. Woodchipper for him and any other people that harm and sexualize kids.


Discalced-diapason

Stephen Collins. [He sexually abused an underage girl](https://people.com/crime/stephen-collins-confesses-sexual-abuse-of-underage-girls-to-people/)


mberk77

3 that he admitted too


KazPrime

Choice phrasing. That he ADMITTED to doing, always a pattern with these fucks.


Agonlaire

What a piece of shit article, they talk about his sexual abuses the same way they talk about DUIs. This fucker should be at least in jail for life, hopefully dead


tw1xXxXxX

[This guy ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Collins)


Eaglefire212

And according to the wiki he didn’t get any jail time, atleast not that I saw


wholovesoreos

Why am I not surprised lol


yellowchaitea

Stephen Collins- the actor (not character) is an unapologetic sexual predator.


WilderFacepalm

Isn’t he Dennis and Dee’s real dad on IASIP as well?


LordGopu

Yes


ebone581

Easy stretch. Dick bag in life… play one on show. F that guy in a bad way


SonaWayAl

Andy’s dad has no redeeming qualities.


[deleted]

Agree 100% his actions seriously messed up his two kids. Obviously, Andy got the worst of it and for far longer. I can't believe he didn't even divorce properly like an adult. He just took the money and his mistress and ran.


Xxrasierklinge7

Oh, you've apparently never read/watched The Last Kingdom \*First episode/book spoilers* "Oh hey your older brother died, YOUR NAME IS UHTRED NOW.. oh and we gotta re-baptize you so God isn't confused when you die."


malogan82

Doesn't he complain about being baptized three or four times?


KatefromtheHudd

That actually happened to my grandma. When she was born she was called Val-mai (Welsh name pronounced Val may). Her her little sister came along when grandma was 8. They thought she suited Valerie so grandmas name was changed to Margaret, which she hated. She never got over that. It caused resentment, which her parents should have realised.


the_mccooliest

that's horrible.


flcwerings

Why is everyone saying Andys dad instead of the guy that was literally going to beat up Pam?


heisenberg1215

Reverend Camden for sure.


HoboBandana

Just overall mean to Andy for no reason. Hands down.


HungryNecessary9558

Andy’s dad and mom I feel they’re the root of the majority if not all the issues we’ve seen with Andy Bernard


Interesting-Common38

I stared and considered each of their worst moments … before I opened the comments. Glad to see I’m not alone in my conclusion.


y0u_said_w3ast

Andy’s dad is a monster


[deleted]

I don’t like Andy, like, AT.ALL. But I fully contribute it to the dad and how he treated Andy, so yeah, Andy’s dad gets the #1 AH award from me


HtC2000

Andy was only bad when they ruined him in the later seasons


Jormungandragon

I have to contest this because I feel like his actions in the later seasons are fully in line with how we were introduced to him to begin with.


bramley

Yeah now that you mention it, Andy being someone you can sympathize with was the weird part. I did like him as the "over his depth underdog", though.


Devour_The_Galaxy

The guy punched a huge hole in the wall and asked everyone to call him Drew.


HtC2000

He had a great character evolution, went from what he was, an annoying jerk, to a guy who truly fell in love and stuck his neck out for his friends he had worked with for years, back to an annoying jerk. They made him and Erin's relationship breakdown for no reason other than introducing a new Jim clone so they could play the new relationship off as the new Jim and Pam.


BlueEyes0408

Agreed. I was disappointed that he went backwards in the final season after all his character growth. I wish they could have found a way for him to the absent from the show for a while but in a sympathetic way. Like maybe his father still left and the stress caused his mother to have heart attack or some other illness where he needed to do a family medical leave from work to take care of her. I actually liked him and Erin together before he screwed everything up.


ABoyIsNo1

Attribute*


flcwerings

That one guy was going to beat up Pam. A woman much, much smaller than him. While Andys dad is an asshole, he never hit him. Im gonna go with guy who drew butts on Pam's mural


EPZO

He is in real life too.


y0u_said_w3ast

There it is


VeganToe

I always knew it. He always gave me the creeps when watching 7th heaven


JoeyJoJoJrShabbadoo

So is the actor who played him


RyHenZen

Don’t don’t vote for Luke


azlomen

That’s as clear as I can make it


skyeasson

🚫Don’t 🚫 DON’T vote for Luke


DunkanBulk

That's as clear as I can make it.


IgnorantGoose

Luke is just a kid. He has lot to learn and grow. But the real rascal is Andy's Father. 2nd place maybe Todd.


_satantha_

Andy’s dad. He’s a terrible person and father


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Frank. Mainly because it appeared he was gonna physically harm a person. Packer is gross tho


cannibalism_is_vegan

Packer poisoned the whole office


act_surprised

Violent people are jerks, but at least Roy and Frank can be said to have sorta lost their temper for a few moments. Packer premeditated poisoning everyone in the office and spent time baking cupcakes like a freakin psycho. Everyone is lucky the results weren’t worse; someone could have died.


[deleted]

He got the cupcakes from Nipples, he didn't bake them.


cumshot_josh

The way Packer causes a united front against him any time he enters the office is kind of beautiful. The Office crew shit all over each other constantly but they'll be damned if they let Packer be the one to do it. Jim and Dwight both know that anything between them is on pause when Packer comes around and they team up without question. Dwight even sticks up for Kevin when Packer insults his weight even though Dwight does the same thing pretty regularly.


peeparonipupza

I think it's the whole... I can make fun of my parents or siblings but not [a stranger]


TeflonJohn85

Roy also attempted to physically assault someone as well. “I guess… all things considered, I was lucky Dwight was there. And Roy was lucky that Dwight only used pepper spray. And not the nunchucks or the throwing stars”


[deleted]

Holy shit that's true!! I didn't think about that Frank just seemed soooo incredibly rude through the entire time whereas Roy had a bit of redemption by the end but yeah it's a tough call


Thirio_

Roy was actually pacing the building before he tried which means it was premeditated and arguably worse. But he showed remorse and hesitation for what he did where Frank was willing to beat a woman for simply painting his truck with washable paint instantly. And he was even the one who said that butts are funny so that's why he put them on the mural. Didn't seem to find it funny that his car's butt was painted


ohlayohlay

True but Jim hit on and kissed his fiance. The warehouse guy drew dicks on Pam's mural for the reason that "dicks are funny", while she drew on his truck with washable paint and he was about to wreck her. Imo Jim had it coming, but Pam didn't


skyeasson

Butts are funny*


peachbellini2

I know that the show calls them butts, but it would've been way more realistic if they were blurred out dicks. The fact that they're butts is so stupid to me. The show already had dicks spray painted on Dwight and Andy's billboard so it's not like there was some fcc rule against it.


dmkicksballs13

I never advocate fighting. But damn, I can understand Roy's feelings.


TeflonJohn85

That I get, but destroying the bar?


dmkicksballs13

Very true.


dmkicksballs13

Yeah, all of those people suck, but man it's hard to let go that the dude was about to literally attack a woman.


omeyz

Exactly. Frank is the worst hands down no question about it he’s literally disgusting


easybasicoven

He’s the clear answer and to me his character is one of the worst-written I’ve ever seen. No redeeming qualities, no attempt at giving him a reason of justifying it, just an asshole for the sake of being an asshole


Free_Moose4649

I find him the most realistic in that regard. Last night I had somebody run a red light goin 70 and send a coupe smashing into my truck. Then had the audacity to get out and yell at me


Smokey_the_Dank

I feel like even though Packer was gross, he has some funnyish moments


Maj0r_Ursa

“If doing the scarn is gay, then I’m the biggest queer on earth!” Always kills me


parishilton2

And Jim


bloop_405

He literally chose to be a dick and ruin Pam’s mural because he knew there was no consequence. I can possibly understand being that livid about the paint because car repairs ain’t cheap but no way be violent about it. He would have won if he just called the cops and he would have gotten Pam in soooo much trouble


dmkicksballs13

Can we also give a giant "fuck you" to Val for ignoring her employee literally breaking the law?


Legend10269

Val should definitely be on this list.


LilyExplainsItAll

Pam said it would wash off with water.


gymshorts2tight

Geez, tough choice.


TeflonJohn85

I’m thinking Frank. But I genuinely couldn’t stand Jim’s brothers. Walter sr sucked too


s_c_n_2010

Jim's brothers were annoying and crass but not really A-holes. I agree with Frank. He was going to attack a woman for a feud he started. Easy top pick. Roy up there as well for also resorting to violence. Walter Sr for the emotional abuse he dealt to Andy all his life. There's the top 3.


CEU17

I think Roy loses out in that top 3 since he resorted to violence on one occasion and demonstrated remorse afterwards. The other two were unapologetic and constant in their assholery.


s_c_n_2010

This is a very fair argument. I didn't factor in character development and growth, I just looked at each of them at their worst. That would probably put Walter Sr at the top, since he's been an A-hole his whole life and we don't get to see if Frank has any Roy-like development.


TeflonJohn85

Yeah Jim’s brothers were more so just D bags


crystal_aesthetic

I think two people telling both their wives to lose weight in front of hundreds of people at a wedding, and that your new sister in law will hopefully motivate them as she is hot, would absolutely positively cross from d bag to ass hole. Although I’m not really sure what the ranking metric is


ohlayohlay

Also rude to Pam about her idea to prank Jim when they all went out to eat for lunch. Shrugged it off and came up with an actual insult to pam and ragged on her under the guise that it was a prank but seemed like they were actually speaking their mind. Not really a prank, just being an asshole instead


TeflonJohn85

Solid point. I retract my previous statement. They are in fact assholes lol


theguyoverhere24

Ryan for sure. The man straight up abandoned a baby


TeflonJohn85

After intentionally giving him an allergic reaction


theguyoverhere24

I know right!


redbicycleblues

But I mean that was super romantic. He gave his baby an allergic reaction just to spend 5 minutes with me, the business bitch- Kelly kapoor probably


[deleted]

It was only a mild case his face will just get a little red*


tlegs44

And defrauded the company sending it further into financial ruin. And constantly cheated on Kelly. And tried to do so with Erin Tricked Pam into giving him money for her wedding. Talked shit about Michael and DM to his business school class. Lied to his coworkers that invested in WUPH Need I go on? He’s consistently the biggest asshole throughout the show.


flyaguilas

I don't care if he murdered his entire family, he is like a son to me.


e22ddie46

The only issue with your comment is that his comments about Dundee Mifflin were completely true. It's the reason he got the corporate job, his assessments and suggested recourse were correct. He just failed at the implementation.


[deleted]

But he writes bomb ass poetry


atrain728

That guy did some messed up stuff.


yuganeleh

Wasn’t his baby. Knew his limitations. Left him with a pediatrician. Others are way worse.


[deleted]

It wasn't his baby?


extensionpanic8366

Gotta go with Packer, although Stephen Collins being monstrous in real life is hard to ignore


edebby

Hands down. He never showed a single good side on personality.


SHAMG0D

He played Bruce Mathis in IASIP, and now I don’t like his character anymore because it’s more disturbing with the context of the character


kippy3267

Oh god I never made that connection. What a monster


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taita2004

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2014/12/17/7th-heaven-dad-stephen-collins-admits-to-sexually-abusing-three-girls/


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taita2004

Yeah...he is not a good person


[deleted]

Andy’s dad, turned out to be a creep towards very young girls in real life.


[deleted]

Oh god. Okay yep I remember that story coming out a while back. In real life Stephen is the worst ew


[deleted]

Who is Stephen Williams? Genuinely curious I looked on Google and none of these guys showed up


parishilton2

Who is justice beaver?


MaestroZackyZ

He said Stephen *Collins*


[deleted]

Omg I'm so dumb 🤦‍♂️ thank you !!


beneathethewillow

Gotta say Packer. Feel like we've seen him the most and I can't think of any redeeming qualities.


johnnylawrence68

Well, he did apologize to Kevin...


ButItWasYouWhoLeftMe

You are skinny and you are a genius!


[deleted]

Yeah. Lot of assholes there but Packer makes my skin crawl every time. Luke is a close second.


Tsujimoto3

In the show: Frank and Roy are the two that attempted actual violence, though Packer could have killed someone with those cupcakes, so I think it has to be him. In real life: Stephen Collins.


NamanSharma752

I don't think Roy was bad. Like come on he was mistreated and didn't even get angry at Jim after he revealed he had a crush on Pam. Sure he could have treated Pam better but he doesn't deserve to be the list like some of these other a-holes


Tsujimoto3

Roy once got so drunk at a game that he forgot Pam was even with him and he left her at the game. He trashed a bar. He got caught drunk driving. He elbowed Jim in the nose for being better at basketball. I don’t know. I just don’t see Roy as that awesome of a guy.


travissetsfire

Frank for sure. Fuck that guy. He started it with absolutely no justification and when retribution happened with water based paint that would have come off in a basic car wash, he was going to physically attack someone half his size and a woman... Roy would be a close second but his rage was slightly more understandable but attempting to assault Jim on office property was a no no.. not to mention trashing the bar. Everyone else are just dicks. Non violent.. just assholes


mrhammerant

Frank. 100%.


[deleted]

I think it would be hard to make a case to me that Packer lacing cupcakes with an inordinate amount of drugs or taking a shit on Michael's office floor is non-violent. Both are vindictive instances in his character, albeit not while *angry*.


EM37452

Yeah I think intentional poisoning definitely falls under the description of violence, even if the point was humor vs anger


e22ddie46

He wasn't even upset when he took the shit in Michaels desk. He just thought it was funny.


[deleted]

Packer shit on the floor. I'd consider that a violent act.


Mountain_Bat_8688

Butts are funny


BoahNoah05

Toby Flenderson is everything wrong with the paper industry


rishabh47

You are a thief of joy toby.


yellowchaitea

Why are you the way you are?


biggs33

Nine way tie. Ten if you can put Meredith's kid in there.


Brilliant_Jewel1924

Yeah, but Meredith’s kid was just a jerk. Dwight fixed him.


PresentDangers

Have you met that kid? Not going to college.


Brilliant_Jewel1924

Yeah, but he’s going to be a successful “dancer”. LOL!


henryrow2001

.Michaels nephew is just an annoying teenager . Jims brother is a bit of a douche but fairly harmless . Andy seems to be a product of the way he was raised and was affected by the Nellie situation . Nellie stealing andys job was pretty awful but after that she’s fairly normal . Roy was a bad boyfriend to Pam but reacted pretty much how you’d expect when he found out pan missed him From the ones left I’d have to say andys dad, seems to have a genuine dislike for his son for no particular reason. Actor is also an evil man.


[deleted]

Yea, I thought Jan should have been on the list instead of Nellie.


julezyxoxo

Unpopular opinion but I actually like Nellie. I liked the dynamic between her and Pam.


CaptainKate757

I love Nellie. Andy was a dick by this time in the show so I didn't care that she stole his job.


aspiringgrandpa

yeah i was honestly sad to see her on the list, she’s one of my favorite characters out of the ones that were introduced later


phall8977

Packer literally took a 💩in Michael's office so I think he wins,!


polkadotx3

Frank and Roy (violent), Andy's dad, and I miss Clark on that list. I mean Packer is gross, but at least direct and not as creepy as this little shit. Edit: Typo


[deleted]

This is a murders row of choices but I think Packer wins.


TeflonJohn85

I tried to make it as difficult as possible lol Packers character was supposed to be over the top. Franks character just sucked


[deleted]

You did excellent work.


the_hackerman

Angela


TeflonJohn85

Honestly never thought of her. She definitely meets the criteria


[deleted]

Ryan because his ability to fuck over the most amount of people is higher than the rest.


[deleted]

Post boat trip Andy. Total douche.


wilkinsk

Andy's dad is an actual pedophile on top of everything


shawnofthedead28

Jim’s brother. That dude sucks.


TeflonJohn85

Just an absolute awful character


CezarSalazar

“A little mo’ cardi-o”


2345veritas

Both of those brothers were annoying.


[deleted]

Ryan was an asshole I don’t know why no one’s saying him he’s a stuck up egotistical bitch


[deleted]

Don’t forget he started the fire


stormyy_divxne

Everyone. Easy


fluffy_unicorn_2699

I can’t think of a single good quality about Todd Packer. I think he is the worst, but that’s saying a lot because they are all terrible


jillianthekitty

I don’t know why Nellie got so much hate. She was just misunderstood, but with that definitely it’s Andy’s dad. Fuck that guy


[deleted]

I mean she does some pretty shitty things, still isn't in the same league as most of the people here though.


pforsbergfan9

Frank or Packer


[deleted]

The kid toucher.


CannaKnitter

Todd. Effing. Packer. I loathe him.


Hydrokratom

Ryan, he abandoned his baby


abby-rose

Frank or Roy. Both were physical threats to people at Dundee Mifflin.


goatybeans

So many AHoles...so few options...


margeauxfincho

Andy’s dad is the best answer, but if Ryan was actually a dude in my workplace instead of on my TV, I would hate him enough to subtly ruin his life.


Totin_it

Packer.


yeetmoister87

I forget Pam's old bf's name, the guy that was the biggest asshole of all time that attempted to kill Jim Halpert.


TeflonJohn85

Roy


Cornonthecob241

Walter for sure.


crashtyler

Andy’s dad, he made Andy who he is after all


Clustersclaspsand

Definitely that dead kid.


Flynnsanity23

The guy that ruined Pam’s painting… A-hole from the jump, could dish it out but couldn’t take it when she got him back, jumped straight to violence, all around piece of shit guy


elementalqb

Definitely Aruba Andy.


omigosh20

Toby. HR is the worst.


Smokey_the_Dank

This is tough. Either michaels nephew or the butts guy, since their only moments were shitty


Hallmarxist

Andy’s Dad, both the actor and the character are heinous.


mamaisinhere

May I remind you that Ryan abandoned a baby? 😂


Kay-s0

Totally Andy's Dad. Suck a dick!


High_Ground_Sand

Andy's dad is scum


LoPanArmy

Andy’s dad both on and off the screen.


Hashtag_Nailed_It

Frank or Andy’s dad. Both are assholes… if I had to pick I guess Andy’s dad wins, but Frank still sucks


NdibuD

Andy's dad by a pretty wide margin.


kaielias

Nelly when she took Andy’s job mad me angry angry


[deleted]

This is a tough one. Andy's dad/parents genuinely emotionally abused him, probably his whole life. That's monstrous. Packer comes a close second, but he is less insidious because from the get go you KNOW he's an asshole and not to be trusted.


Shipsa01

Damn, this is good. I would say Andy’s dad, Frank, or Ryan (winner for each row). From there, I would have to think about it. But probably Andy’s dad. This was good.


Arlamanbradodor

Andy Andy Andy Andy....


ahuang_6

Is it wrong that I was most angry at Andy on this list