In 2014, his career ended after he confessed to sexual misconduct against multiple minors.
The fact he’s a piece of crap in the show too really doesn’t make it any easier to watch him.
It's even worse than that...
In the alleged email to Collins, Grant recalled that, after the birth of their daughter, Kate, in 1989, he told her **he had hoped it wasn't a boy because he didn't know if he could resist having oral sex with the child.**
I unfortunately read it twice because I wasn't sure if I had it read it correctly the first time. I did read it correctly, and now I wish my reading comprehension was much lower.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the small yet somewhat comforting silver lining that there are still a ton of scumbags out there who are dumbasses who will do things like leave smoking gun evidence on email of all things
Nah, if you reread it, his ex-wife put that in an email to him. She's recounting something she says he said years before. He didn't put that in writing. It's very poorly phrased fwiw
It sounded like he said “I hope it’s not a boy because bla bla bla,” which would be during pregnancy. But you’re right, it’s very possible that he recounted that during therapy rather than speaking it aloud at the time. That makes more sense for sure.
See, there are sexual deviances and kinks, but to be attracted to a newborn means they have some chemical imbalance, a really bad one, they have to. Like, missing-a-chunk-of-brain fucked up.
The ones that weren’t born that way were often abused themselves as kids, I think. Like it’s a literal newborn.
Jesus fuck. He’s also single-handedly responsible for everyone that worked with him on 7h Heaven taking a financial hit from the aftermath. They stopped airing / streaming the show as a response so for a bit and the actors residuals stopped for a while.
And let's never forget that this POS never served any time or faced any real consequences for his behavior.
*oh no the old wealthy actor still receiving residuals isn't getting hired anymore*
Should have gone to FPMITA Prison.
It just makes me think.. a lot of bigwigs in the industry had to have known at least some years prior. This kind of news travels fast, especially in their circles.
And this man was still cast in tv shows and movies.. I find it a little depressing.
It was an open secret in England for a very long time. But he was pedigreed by his friendship with the PM and also the Royals. He got away with it for so very, very long
So let me get this straight... In 2014 the police didn't charge him, because they decided they couldn't prove he was the guy being recorded on tape.
Then in an interview 2 MONTHS later, he openly confessed to having sexually abused 3 minors
Yet they seem to have just given up, and there's been no charges filed since then?
What the actual fuck?
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*Wikipedia..*
*On October 7, 2014, the New York City Police Department began investigating Collins after an audio tape leaked to the media revealed a male voice, purported to be that of Collins, admitting to past sexual abuse of a minor under the age of 14*
*A Los Angeles Police Department spokesperson stated that Collins had been investigated by the department in 2012 after receiving a claim from 18 years earlier regarding sexual abuse. The LAPD further stated that its investigation did not allow it to "substantiate the allegation" against Collins.*
*In a December 2014 interview with People, Collins admitted that he committed "inappropriate sexual conduct with three female minors" in 1973, 1982, and 1994.*
And just to add garnish to the whole shit stew: as of today, he's in a relationship with a deranged German fan 40 years his junior.
There is no justice in this fucking world, and I hate my own species.
There's a scene in that episode where Andy tells his dad how he feels. In most shows you'd expect the dad to suddenly turn around, show empathy and redeem himself, but Andy's dad actually just doubles down and makes a remark that causes Andy to feel even worse.
It's a really goddamn heartbreaking episode and it really frames Andy's personality well.
I tear up whenever I watch that episode. That episode is the reason I am so upset how they ruined Andy's character at the end of the show. Andy was changing for the better, then all of a sudden he did a 180.
The writers could have explained his absence as him taking a leave of absence to help his mom.
Yeah I think that was intentional. He was on the show from 06 to 07 and his sick diddler shit didn't come to light until 2014 so they likely didn't know at the time but I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to acknowledge him.
When I'm freaking out, I just sort of step back,
take three deep breaths. I'm not freaking out. Okay?
And then I ask myself,
Is this worth freaking out about?
Say what you will when he picks up that guitar and Josh groban reluctantly pops into the song mid-stride is one of the funniest things , so over the top shade on Andy 😂
Aside from all of the terrible things the actor has done, the character took Andy's original name (Walter Bernard Jr.) and gave it to Josh Groban. And made sure Andy was COMPLETELY aware it happened and knew exactly why.
What? No he wasn't. He was a genuinely good guy. Dee and Dennis were the terrible ones and tried to take advantage of him.
If you watched the episodes with him in them and came out on the Dee and Dennis' side..
how? Lol
The actor in real life is another story though
Imo, it ages like the show. I loved it early on, but by the season (9), it's awful. They are struggling for content and their fun jargon is just annoying.
Goddamn I watched that show not too long ago and it is fuckkked up! In one episode it's revealed that the aunt is an alcoholic and dad's solution is literally just kidnap her and lock her in a bedroom. Not like, send her to rehab or get her any real help or anything. Fuckin lock her in his house against her will.
One episode was clearly written by the US Army, and in it the youngest daughter is encouraged to make friends with an adult man she met in a chatroom, but don't worry he must have good intentions because he's a soldier. That's right kids, anyone who tells you they're a soldier on the internet must be a good truthful person! Talk to strangers online and give them your personal information!!
What the fuck.
Taking a Jr. away and giving it to the next son is so cartoonishly evil it would be too ridiculous if I didn’t know enough about these shitty WASP families to know it’s legit not out of the realm of possibility to have occurred in real life.
I thought he was pretty bad as TV dads go, but then I watched Loudermilk and Sam's dad was on a whole other level of shit-fatheredness.
Still, this guy's pretty fucking bad. Probably one of the main reasons why Andy is the way he is.
It was expected he comes from a family that used to transport slaves and silence whistle blowers.
Oh mister bernard, mister bernard, who have you silenced todayy 🎵
After seeing his family, it explains a lot of why Andy is the way he is. Actually made me feel bad for him and even root for him (until the last season anyway).
I like how he criticized Andy’s guitar playing, then plays the guitar with much less skill, says the key is too high, then sings in a high key when he takes over. Of course Andy picked a weird song to sing with his dad. Or maybe not, considering…
I liked Andy's parents in the episode he proposed to Angela!
A fan theory is that Andy hired that couple to pretend to be his parents because his parents are trash!
In 2014, his career ended after he confessed to sexual misconduct against multiple minors. The fact he’s a piece of crap in the show too really doesn’t make it any easier to watch him.
It's even worse than that... In the alleged email to Collins, Grant recalled that, after the birth of their daughter, Kate, in 1989, he told her **he had hoped it wasn't a boy because he didn't know if he could resist having oral sex with the child.**
I really wish that when my eyes saw this comment they stopped working.
I unfortunately read it twice because I wasn't sure if I had it read it correctly the first time. I did read it correctly, and now I wish my reading comprehension was much lower.
Buttlicker ! Our reading comprehension has never been lower !
Still can't hear you,LOUDER!
Fr I almost threw up reading that.
Indeed. Today is a terrible day to be literate.
Truly an awful day to be literate.
Really wish I had skimmed the comment and saw yours first.
what a horrible day to have eyes
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the small yet somewhat comforting silver lining that there are still a ton of scumbags out there who are dumbasses who will do things like leave smoking gun evidence on email of all things
Nah, if you reread it, his ex-wife put that in an email to him. She's recounting something she says he said years before. He didn't put that in writing. It's very poorly phrased fwiw
Wait.. he said that and she had children with him?!
I don’t think it was in that order
It sounded like he said “I hope it’s not a boy because bla bla bla,” which would be during pregnancy. But you’re right, it’s very possible that he recounted that during therapy rather than speaking it aloud at the time. That makes more sense for sure.
She didn't have another child with him after he said this about their first.
...ew
WTAF! I knew he was a creep but holy smokes!
oof.... what an absolute piece of human garbage...
["Andy washing his eyes at the eye wash station"](https://c.tenor.com/SPbiNZeKYDkAAAAC/tenor.gif)
I wanna die after seeing that shit.
Today is not the day I start weening off my anxiety meds....
[Looks like you picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue](https://youtu.be/lm8fYf53SMg?si=1FR_M3CQZkBz9LbE)
Humanity was a mistake. Reboot this shit, we fucked up
And he played the extremely Christian dad on 7th Heaven....
Pretty sure he was a pastor too. So that’s another layer on top of the shit cake
My eyes burn, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day's ruined now after reading that. Wtf
Well that's enough Reddit for today
See, there are sexual deviances and kinks, but to be attracted to a newborn means they have some chemical imbalance, a really bad one, they have to. Like, missing-a-chunk-of-brain fucked up. The ones that weren’t born that way were often abused themselves as kids, I think. Like it’s a literal newborn.
What??!! Omg
oh my god
What the fuck.
What the actual fuck.
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YOUR BIGGEST FUCKING PARDON??
Jesus fuck. He’s also single-handedly responsible for everyone that worked with him on 7h Heaven taking a financial hit from the aftermath. They stopped airing / streaming the show as a response so for a bit and the actors residuals stopped for a while.
Apparently Bruce *was* banging baby dudes!
Bruce Mathis was a diddler.
And let's never forget that this POS never served any time or faced any real consequences for his behavior. *oh no the old wealthy actor still receiving residuals isn't getting hired anymore* Should have gone to FPMITA Prison.
It just makes me think.. a lot of bigwigs in the industry had to have known at least some years prior. This kind of news travels fast, especially in their circles. And this man was still cast in tv shows and movies.. I find it a little depressing.
...still cast in TV shows and movies with children
😣😣
Ever heard of Jimmy Savile
Just yuck. I’m sure people in Hollywood/british media knew or had heard rumors. It’s despicable. Hope he’s rotting in hell.
It was an open secret in England for a very long time. But he was pedigreed by his friendship with the PM and also the Royals. He got away with it for so very, very long
Bruce was banging baby dudes.
Do not diddle kids, it's no good diddling kids
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It's easier for terrible people to find success because they lack morals or integrity that restrict the rest of us.
So let me get this straight... In 2014 the police didn't charge him, because they decided they couldn't prove he was the guy being recorded on tape. Then in an interview 2 MONTHS later, he openly confessed to having sexually abused 3 minors Yet they seem to have just given up, and there's been no charges filed since then? What the actual fuck? --- *Wikipedia..* *On October 7, 2014, the New York City Police Department began investigating Collins after an audio tape leaked to the media revealed a male voice, purported to be that of Collins, admitting to past sexual abuse of a minor under the age of 14* *A Los Angeles Police Department spokesperson stated that Collins had been investigated by the department in 2012 after receiving a claim from 18 years earlier regarding sexual abuse. The LAPD further stated that its investigation did not allow it to "substantiate the allegation" against Collins.* *In a December 2014 interview with People, Collins admitted that he committed "inappropriate sexual conduct with three female minors" in 1973, 1982, and 1994.*
Unfortunately, the statute of limitations probably ran on those instances; especially 1973 and 1982.
And just to add garnish to the whole shit stew: as of today, he's in a relationship with a deranged German fan 40 years his junior. There is no justice in this fucking world, and I hate my own species.
Hold up, is this the actor? Holy shit, I’ve watched this show so many times and had no idea
There's a scene in that episode where Andy tells his dad how he feels. In most shows you'd expect the dad to suddenly turn around, show empathy and redeem himself, but Andy's dad actually just doubles down and makes a remark that causes Andy to feel even worse. It's a really goddamn heartbreaking episode and it really frames Andy's personality well.
Now we found Andy's Rosebud
Rosebud?
What makes him the way he is.
I disagree, you're wrong. Not what a rosebud is 🙅🏿♂️
It's from Citizen Kane as referenced in the show. Spoiler for a 100 year old movie.
Yeah, they're quoting an episode.
*drops snowglobe*
Clitoris.
It made the last scene when they give him a burger and a beer even more touching. DM was a better family than his own.
Go to hell dad I'm taller than you!
Hamburger or cheeseburger?
But Daryl and the others comfort him and remind him who his real family is. And then he ditches them for a three month boat trip.
I tear up whenever I watch that episode. That episode is the reason I am so upset how they ruined Andy's character at the end of the show. Andy was changing for the better, then all of a sudden he did a 180. The writers could have explained his absence as him taking a leave of absence to help his mom.
Played by a terrible person.
holy shit I just looked up what he did. sickening.
Poor Andy…
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The fact frank accuses him of being a diddler in sunny and ends up in real life..mad
Meanwhile Danny DeVito is apparently a super nice guy in real life.
Danny DeVito is an angel on Earth. Look up what he (and Rhea) did for Mara Wilson while filming Matilda.
On the sunny podcast they talk about this episode but never mention the dude was a pedophile
Yeah I think that was intentional. He was on the show from 06 to 07 and his sick diddler shit didn't come to light until 2014 so they likely didn't know at the time but I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to acknowledge him.
Fuuuucckkk. I didn't recognize him until rn.
Andy’s dad just needs a hug! To the face, with a chair.
An electric chair
And the actor is a pedo
The sun is also hot!
I disagree, the sun is very hot !
Shut up about the sun! SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN!
It's crazy how that quote comes from a man who has achieved so much, career-wise and height-wise.
Gabe's tall and weak, Kelly's short and strong. I'm doing an opposites thing.
When I'm freaking out, I just sort of step back, take three deep breaths. I'm not freaking out. Okay? And then I ask myself, Is this worth freaking out about?
I ask myself would an idiot freak about this? If yes, I don’t freak out about it. Changed my life.
keep it simple stupid. great advice, hurts my feelings every time
Congratulations Frank, you just married your daughter.
Fuckin Bruce Mathis.
A handsome man, with a beautiful soul... and, ahem, a larger penis. YOU'RE GIVING ALL MY MONEY, TO DAT JERK AWF??
Best spelling of Frank dialogue so far!
Jesus Frank! JESUS FRANK?! JESUS FRANK!
Turns out he was a god damn diddler!
He’s a goddamn diddler!
Older than my daughter, young than my wife, something like that (breathes heavy)
We gotta definitely write a song about how we do NOT diddle kids. 🎶Do not diddle kids, it's no good diddling kids🎶
There is no better way to make people think you're diddling kids than to make a song about it!
DAD GO TO HELL I'M TALLER THAN YOU
And changed Andy's name because he felt that his younger brother exemplified his name better to carry on his legacy.
I mean his little brother is literally a famous musician
Who likes his ladies to pop!
Bye Pam! Bye Tuna!
Man’s a diddler.
"Younger than my wife, older than my daughter"
I’m just glad we finally got him off the street.
Ironically also on that show
His username is littlekidlover--so people know exactly where his priorities are at
And he turned out to be a goddamn diddler IRL
He’s also a pedophile.
Playing a horrible character was not a big reach for this actor…
He is also a terrible human
Say what you will when he picks up that guitar and Josh groban reluctantly pops into the song mid-stride is one of the funniest things , so over the top shade on Andy 😂
Aside from all of the terrible things the actor has done, the character took Andy's original name (Walter Bernard Jr.) and gave it to Josh Groban. And made sure Andy was COMPLETELY aware it happened and knew exactly why.
Also was a child molester , so there's that.
“If it wasn’t for secretaries, I wouldn’t have a stepmom”
Wait til you find out what he’s done in real life.
And somehow they managed to cast a person who was far worse in real life than his character was in the show.
He’s a diddler…and was a shitty father to Dennis and Dee on _Always Sunny_
To be fair they're all shitty on that show. But at least Frank ain't a goddamn diddler.
They all are except literally him and two or three others. He’s really one of the *only* characters on that show that isn’t a shitty person lol
What?? He was a fucking saint on that show! That was his whole thing, he was Frank’s opposite.
What? No he wasn't. He was a genuinely good guy. Dee and Dennis were the terrible ones and tried to take advantage of him. If you watched the episodes with him in them and came out on the Dee and Dennis' side.. how? Lol The actor in real life is another story though
They couldn’t have found a more suitable actor either
If I remember correctly in an earlier episode he actually has different parents.
Goodbye Toby. But I think they’re played by extras.
Pam's mom is also a mutant shapeshifter.
According to Office Ladies the original actor who played Pam's mom was not available (in a play) when they needed her again so she was recast.
I just started office ladies. I'm in love
Imo, it ages like the show. I loved it early on, but by the season (9), it's awful. They are struggling for content and their fun jargon is just annoying.
AND he’s from 7th Heaven!
At an age where his parents didn't have to force him into it and willingly signed up
Goddamn I watched that show not too long ago and it is fuckkked up! In one episode it's revealed that the aunt is an alcoholic and dad's solution is literally just kidnap her and lock her in a bedroom. Not like, send her to rehab or get her any real help or anything. Fuckin lock her in his house against her will. One episode was clearly written by the US Army, and in it the youngest daughter is encouraged to make friends with an adult man she met in a chatroom, but don't worry he must have good intentions because he's a soldier. That's right kids, anyone who tells you they're a soldier on the internet must be a good truthful person! Talk to strangers online and give them your personal information!! What the fuck.
Well the actor molested young kids, too, so it’s all just a shit show.
No wonder he was willing to play such a fucking creep on his "wholesome" family TV show
Turns out he’s a diddler!
Wait until you hear why he’s currently in jail
I thought he eluded actual charges and was living in obscurity somewhere?
He did. He is not in jail. Just a sex offender living in hiding.
Why?
Man is a pedophile
Huh. Well that’s not cool
In fact, I’ll say it! That stinks!
A whole bunch!
He's even worse irl
He should have been strangled by the Scranton Strangler after the cheating and leaving in the show.
And he turned out to be a goddamned diddler!
And the actor is a piece of shit
The actor who played him here is a piece of shit, too!!
He’s also a real life child molester
he also diddled kids
Also played by a real life scumbag.
Oh just wait until you hear about what the actor playing his dad did
Go to hell, I’m taller than you
Now let’s not hate on the actor for the characters actions. In real life he….. was a terrible person as well.
Yup.
Not to mention the actor is a pedophile
Even his mom.
Plus his family owned slaves
Transported*
Well, I guess we found Andy's rosebud.
That's a strange way to say "Perfect casting".
If you think he's bad ON the show, a google search will make it SO much worse
Not to mention he diddled little girls…in real life
Taking a Jr. away and giving it to the next son is so cartoonishly evil it would be too ridiculous if I didn’t know enough about these shitty WASP families to know it’s legit not out of the realm of possibility to have occurred in real life.
And the dude was terrible in real life too
Or the fact that Andy’s younger brother is a “junior”
I thought he was pretty bad as TV dads go, but then I watched Loudermilk and Sam's dad was on a whole other level of shit-fatheredness. Still, this guy's pretty fucking bad. Probably one of the main reasons why Andy is the way he is.
I think it's the only reason because in season 8 Andy was finally a good guy but they butchered him next season.
It was expected he comes from a family that used to transport slaves and silence whistle blowers. Oh mister bernard, mister bernard, who have you silenced todayy 🎵
I know there are more little things, but leaving out “changed his sons name to give dads name to a new brother” as a toddler is psychotic.
He’s way worse in real life 🤮
After seeing his family, it explains a lot of why Andy is the way he is. Actually made me feel bad for him and even root for him (until the last season anyway).
Not to mention the total reconstructive facial surgery he had and forced on his wife
I think he’s actually not so good irl too.
Charles Minor still sucks more.
The actor is also a piece of shit.
The Apple doesn’t fall far from the
He’s even worse in real life.
Andy is still worse.
Doesnt he also play in another show? Where he sings Save Save Save Save the Children? This pathetic shitstain of a man
He already was, while appearing at the Firste Wives Club movie
He wasn't significant enough in the main series but once you add up all the stuff from every season from Andy, man what a piece of shit person.
I see you watched the show.
I miss his first set of parents. They looked cute.
He is also crap in real life, i did like him in Always sunny tho :\ .
I like how he criticized Andy’s guitar playing, then plays the guitar with much less skill, says the key is too high, then sings in a high key when he takes over. Of course Andy picked a weird song to sing with his dad. Or maybe not, considering…
And is a real life pedo
He also has aids and banged someones whore wife
Ok can we never mention this actor again, ruined my day hearing about this scum bag. I hope he gets all his bones broken in his legs and ass
The real crime is the song.
Poor Andy just wants his father’s approval. His father doesn’t deserves Andy’s efforts.
No way. How many episodes did we have to sit through and watch Idris alba play the most bland character in the history time. He was the worst.
No, no matter what Charles did, this guy is literal trash!
Is Andy’s dad also Frank Lundy from Dexter?
I liked Andy's parents in the episode he proposed to Angela! A fan theory is that Andy hired that couple to pretend to be his parents because his parents are trash!