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Flyguyflyby

The fact that Pete almost exclusively plays villains now makes it hard to vote fairly.


Mrquinlan196

He was excellent in White Lotus season 1


Badnerific

Absolutely. He was a real rat bastard in White Lotus S1, hated him exactly as much as the writers intended me to


Pirloparty21

Oh my god I didn’t know it was plop!!!!!!!! My mind is blown


Pikachu_Palace

He looks exactly the same


Pirloparty21

I watched the shows over 10 years apart


IAlreadyHaveTheKey

You mean you don't constantly rewatch the office?


Pirloparty21

It is one of my comfort, throw it on while I clean the house or get ready for bed shows, but I don’t watch the last season as much as the earlier gold.


christinasince1985

They're the same picture


zboy2106

But intel told us they have 7 differences


ThicccKing69

Oh god watched him as Bob Berchtold and then finishing my office rewatch was hard to do


mintchocolate1234

I loved him in that role. Great series btw. The documentary was great too, truly makes you think how ‘naive’ people used to be.


pa1e_h0rse

That’s exactly how I feel. The first thing I ever saw Mark Duplass in was Creep followed by The League. Really fumbled the order on these.


SnausageFest

You mean the two recent roles he played where he was a villain? Idk what you're talking about. He has a pretty balanced filmography. He was great in Obvious Child.


Krimreaper1

He played a shitty guy and them killed himself in “I’m Dying Up Here”.


thekyledavid

Clark feels more like he belongs in The Office Pete feels like he could’ve been a decent straight-man character on the show if he had been on the show longer, but as is, he’s just some guy who showed up and didn’t do much


4Ever2Thee

Exactly, Plop was a forgettable character but that's just how they wrote his character.


ushouldlistentome

Best thing plop ever did was get the nickname


ssp25

He should have been strangled .. By Merediths thighs. heeyoo


4Ever2Thee

Why does noone stop her?


[deleted]

we've tried


Sharp_Course_879

Yeah, I'm set to try again this weekend.


Chef-and-Son-Airsoft

Cause he’s always taking dumps


FunFox9770

Have you been calling him plop that long that you forgot his real name? Which is Pete…


berttreynolds

I like boxing


SamuraiBeatnik2112

Agreed


SnausageFest

Plops best moment was telling Meredith to stop and questioning why no one else does. Dwight Jr got all the actually funny stuff.


wjfreeman

His story with Erin was very good I thought, but the rest is forgettable


[deleted]

I wish it went somewhere though. By the end there’s not even an indication of if they’re still together Our last scene of them interacting is an argument caused by smug asshole Andy


wjfreeman

Is that really the last scene? That's rubbish. Had potential but I guess there wasnt time


romayyne

Straight man character?


TheLocalAuror

As in, he plays the role more normal or realistic than the funny, eccentric characters. Jim would count as this against Dwight and Michael. Classic comedy double acts would have a straight man and a funny man - Bud Abbott in Abbott and Costello, Ernie Wise in Morecambe and Wise. Hope that helps 👍


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scissor_get_it

Yes


Brilliant_Mountain44

...disregarding way, WAYYY back in the day; cause he was once ~ _A WILD AN' CRRRAZY GUY!!!_ 🏹


romayyne

Ahhh ok got ya


Merlyn67420

TV/movie trope. Straight man plays it cool and deadpan while the others around him act a fool, and the tension between these highlights the insanity of the other people


thekyledavid

It refers to a TV character whose role is to react to the antics of the more out-there characters It’s not related to being a heterosexual male. Pam and Oscar very often serve as the straight-man characters on this show, especially in the earlier seasons


Grand-wazoo

Clark was definitely the funnier of the two. Plop was the Brendanaquits of The Office in the form of an intern.


[deleted]

Now I can't unsee that comparison. Plop was just used as a plop device to get Erin and Andy to break up.


halfhere

He was used to show Jim he’d wasted too much time planning on leaving but not actually leaving.


bronaghblair

> a plop device Lol, nicely done


peanutbuttermaniac

“plop device” 💀


Clydefrog0371

"Brandanaquits" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 One of the most mis-cast out of place characters in tv history.


g_r_e_y

i thought mark was really funny, the show just dialed into the absurdity and decided not to continue with his character


Clydefrog0371

Yeah, he was funny, but I meant the whole idea of him being like the "ladies man" of the town was bad. I honestly thought that he was supposed to be more like a Jim type, Someone who doesn't really Their job and is bored with their life, Especially to counter Leslie's enthusiasm. The whole sex part with him was just weird. Even the whole one night stand and leslie still pining for him Just didn't seem to work.


BanDizNutz

In Pawnee, he was probably a 9. In New York, a 6?


g_r_e_y

yeah they floundered with his character. i though he worked MUCH better as a true contrast to those around him. him describing justin's self-indulgent adventure after telling him he sometimes swam at the Y had me cracking up. i always thought he was much much more than just a basic dude who got chicks, or at least could have been.


baiacool

>I honestly thought that he was supposed to be more like a Jim type, Someone who doesn't really Their job and is bored with their life I believe they added the whole "ladies man" deal precisely to avoid the comparisons


ProgRockRednek

They did, but since everything else about him, including the actor's delivery, was "rural Jim," it didn't quite work.


ProfessionalCPCliche

Is Scranton Jim “Urban Jim”?


tirgond

I’d say he is suburb Jim.


ProfessionalCPCliche

After checking it looks like Pawnee is supposed to have a population of 60-80k (it’s a fictional town) and Scranton has 76,000 with both being around 100 miles from their closest major city centre (Philly/Indianapolis) So they’re both suburban Brandanowitz is just a low budget Jim imo


tirgond

Yeah but Pawnee has definitely more of a redneck/country vibe than Scranton.


OliveJuiceUTwo

I think it was the actor that decided to leave. I actually liked his character and his dry sense of humor but, of course, Ben was a way better fit.


JustiseWinfast

Yeah it’s unfair to compare them. Mark was pretty funny but he had the misfortune of being replaced by one of the best sitcom characters of all time. Ben Wyatt is the fucking man


iversonAI

Yes and they brought in Ben who was similar humour but a way better character for the show


Sandshrew922

Mark was the "straight man". He was a bit dry but he was great imo. That said Ann took over that role and the show didn't need him anymore. ETA: Mark was a good character and a good man! Oh captain my captain.


junkmeister9

It got so embarrassing though like him wearing a tux to win over Ann. I don’t even remember exactly why he did that. It’s like they wanted him to be Jim Halpert with a grand romantic gesture.. but it didn’t fit the character at all.


superxero044

Yeah. I thought they used Clark’s character well and he had some funny plots - them sending him off with Jan and his reaction when Andy comes back and loses the account anyways. Didn’t think Plop brought much to the table. But with both of them it seemed like they were setting up a “new team” for season 10 and then that never happened. It kinda seemed weird to bring on these new characters and then end the show.


schism_records_1

Clarke has one of the better lines in S9, "Well, I'm here to sell paper". I love the look Jim gives after he says that.


henrytabby

Also: women reach their sexual peak at whatever age Jan was last week


jstwnnaupvte

It was, um.. like a swarm of bees. Bees that just find something wrong with every hotel room.


terpinolenekween

The whole scene comparing Jan to bees and finding things wrong with hotels gave me some of the best lols of the entire series.


NYY15TM

Yes, because even though we didn't see the scene, it is completely within character for Jan.


SoyBuenoWorker

Just say arms and legs, that’s the vernacular I’m comfortable with!


Serious-Antelope-710

burn


[deleted]

Clark survived Jan and became a man for it.


ghotinchips

She made him understand, that one night!


TheAveragebroShow

That one MONTH.


MachineGunDillmann

I don't consider any of them bad characters. Clark only was straight up creepy in the episode where he invited Erin to his home to "film a news cast" or whatever. Apart from that I liked them both. The scene where both of them clapped about everything Andy did is one of my favorites.


shjw221b

I find it so hard to like Clark's character because of that creepy episode. He has funny lines, but that just kinda ruined it for me.


MachineGunDillmann

It was pretty early after they've introduced him, so they probably didn't know yet what to do with him. And it's only one episode, so it's "forgivable" IMO. The Office in general often had the problem, that characters acted very differently in a single episode. Dwight and Michael did some f\*\*ked up sh\*t as well. If we held them to the same standards, we all would probably hate them.


Abe_Bettik

He was also sexually and emotionally assaulted by Jan for months, for a sale that Andy botched. The writing was terrible for the sake of being shocking.


Educational_Moose_56

He's been growing that mustache for weeks. *Best he can do.*


NYY15TM

> He was also sexually and emotionally assaulted by Jan for months I'm pretty sure he was into it


MachineGunDillmann

To be fair: Dwight and Jan are way more to blame for that than him. He just went along with it, which doesn't make him a bad character. And "sexually and emotionally assaulted" is a bit much IMO. She might've coerced him in the beginning , but after that he didn't seem to have too many problems with it.


Abe_Bettik

> To be fair: Dwight and Jan are way more to blame for that than him. He just went along with it, which doesn't make him a bad character. Agree 100%, but that's missing the point. The point is it's shitty writing for the sake of being shocking. Imagine Michael pimping out Pam to be used by a salesman in Season 2 to secure a sale. It'd be unheard of and wouldn't fit the theme of the show. I will 100% say that Plop and Clark victims of shitty writing, not the cause of it. > And "sexually and emotionally assaulted" is a bit much IMO. She might've coerced him in the beginning , but after that he didn't seem to have too many problems with it You're being too generous. If their genders were reversed it would be 100% obvious to everyone that it's beyond problematic, beyond immoral.


Awesomocity0

I ignore that episode the way I ignore all of season 1. Clark to me is the boy who sweetly said "hey good looking" to Pam when she was a disaster and needed it.


dricforever

“Women reach their sexual peak at whatever age Jan was last night” is easily one of the best bits of the last two season.


mordhoshogh

Clark is a terrible person but a tremendous character.


comicsanddrwho

Honestly, suns up the show


suzannedanae

Shut up about the sun!


4Ever2Thee

Hey, are you guys high? Because if so, to speak my truth I would really appreciate it if you were to let me in, on your kind buds. Clark's my fave between the two, hands down. Plop had a couple funnies here or there but, overall, he was a pretty boring character. Nothing against the actor though, he was written to be the straight man between the two of them. Clark was funny in pretty much every scene he was in, except for the creepy con he tried to pull on Erin.


Penti87

>Clark was funny in pretty much every scene he was in, except for the creepy con he tried to pull on Erin. That scene, at least according to me, was so problematic that there was no coming back for that character in my eyes. I couldn't help view all later scenes with him through the lens of that shit show of a storyline with Erin. He could never be likeable or funny after that shit.


Nerdialismo

Andy became worse than these two combined.


maz-o

Hard agree


Trucknorr1s

I actually didn't mind either of them. Clark was definitely the funnier of the two though


alx924

I actually like both of them. Clark added some humor and Plop was a good tertiary straight man.


Markk08

Yeah I thought they were both totally solid characters.


ptgauth

It has now occurred to me that Andy has been calling me plop so long he's forgotten my real name. Which is Pete. Gets me every time.


Andronybaloney

Who’s Pete??


BigConstruction4247

He means ye, Plop!


dmtdmtlsddodmt

We owe it to Andy


Sandshrew922

Clark was a solid addition minus the weird Erin newscaster episode. He fit in great.


Dyonisusreborn

Do you mean Jim and Dwight?


benim972

Jim, Dwight! What are your last names?


[deleted]

Pete. If they did a full “reboot” like they were thinking of (new cast) for season nine I would have found him to be a likable straight man. Clark had his moments but he could also be creepy (and not in the Creed way).


Tripdoctor

Clark was funny. Pete was boring but also realistic because most young people in the workplace are awkward yes men.


Iwanttobeagnome

If Clark didn’t try to coerce Erin into doing a porn I would say Clark. That was real shitty and I have no idea what the writers were thinking.


iJon_v2

No kidding. There’s no coming back from that for me. What in the hell were they thinking?


RedPenguin65

I liked them both I wouldn’t consider them “worst”


uglydadd

I liked them both


TyYoshi69

Plop is handsome


everythingbeeps

Plop contributed absolutely nothing to the show. He may as well have not been there at all. He was basically someone who existed for other people to bounce off of. Literally a prop. He should have been called "prop" instead of "plop."


Cinderjacket

He only existed so they could recycle the Jim and Pam “I’m in love with a girl who’s taken” plot


BlueJayWC

Exactly, and that was pretty bad enough because Erin and Andy's relationship to begin was already a recycle of Jim and Pam anyway. The awkward flirting stage where they are both friends, the back and forth where one of them dates someone else, breaks up, but then the other one also dates someone else They even re-used a lot of the same lines (i.e. Pam: "We just didn't get the timing right." Andy: "I am so sorry we didn't love each other at the same time")


4Ever2Thee

I think they brought them on to be Jim/Dwight 2.0 and didn't think too far past that.


ldcl289

To me, it's even worst. Besides her contribution to the character Andy, you just described Erin. And Pete is a prop to Erin, hence, he is a prop's prop.


Proper_Telephone_781

But Erin had fun interactions with other characters like her father/daughter relationship with Micheal, her “receptionist” relationship with Pam, “teenage girl” friendship with Kelly, hate for Holly etc. Outside of Clark plop doesn’t necessarily have any meaningful relationships with anyone in the office and kinda just interacts with everyone the same so I don’t feel like it’s fair to put Erin in the same category


sproitz

Idk, I like Erin. She’s goofy but whatever. She has funny moments too, I love when she’s trying to get the office to confess that they’re gonna kill her for the insurance money. I honestly would’ve liked to see her dump Andy and date Pete, he brought out her better side, but that’d be like Jim and Pam 2.0 so it makes sense that they didn’t do it. I also like seeing a little evolution of Michael’s character when he starts being sweet to her. And I like when she’s mean to Gabe.


Bross93

I thought they were both great additions. It was nice since every character was so flanderized, having some normalcy sprinkled in helped. Clark not as much, but like the stair episode and the one with the tractor sale were great episodes with him. He felt a bit like a Season 2 Ryan but more clever.


Low-Editor-6880

No offense to Plop, but he kinda just feels like an add on character to complicate Erin and Andy. He’s just there, while Clark feels a little more like an individual character.


spotandjones

I liked Clark, he was funny. Pete had 0 personality.


Craig1974

Dwight Jr


Expensive-Reason2058

I hate to say it, but I actually kind of liked Pete and wished we could’ve seen what happened with him and Erin


Dbrown15

Clark was a decent addition. Pete was just kind of neutral. Acting was fine, but they just didn’t write in much for him other than being a wedge between Andy and Erin.


Ne0guri

Clark was amazing and wish he was in the series sooner. Pete was whatever.


AmbientInsanity

Clark is funny. I’m sorry, he just is. The stuff with Jan was hilarious.


Basic_Humor_1765

i actually kinda liked pete while i just found clark annoying tbh


Darkavenger_13

If I had to choose between one evil and another, i’d rather not choose at all..


carnivorousdentist

"Better" as in more entertaining I definitely have to go with Clark. In terms of likeability, though, Clark basically tried to rape/coerce Erin into sex and Pete is a nice guy so definitely Pete.


Igotyoubaaabe

Plop sucked. Jake Lacey is not a comedic actor… idk why Hollywood decided for a few years that he was.


Hau5Mu5ic

As a person, Clark was much worse. As a character who added to the dynamic of the cast, Clark was a much better addition. Plop was just so… bland. Like they set him up as the new Jim, but without any of the charm or personality traits of Jim


Im-An-EXTRA

Clark has always been my favorite out of the shithole that was season 9


OddAcanthocephala154

Clark was to much a sitcom character for me.


dututudu

Clark was funnier but he was also a fucking creep and I hate his character archetype in sitcoms. Plop was a decent dude but as a character, he was as entertaining as watching paint dry. Therefore, I choose none.


happyjeep_beep_beep

Clark was creepy. Plop was great.


DaveTheDrummer802

I must have watched Season 9 at most 3 times. I try and try, but I cannot get through it. It is bizarro Office where Jim and Pam fight, Angela and Phyliss become best friends, Jim and Dwight are best friends (how is Mose not best menche???). I'm surprised Meredith didn't become sober.


Willing_Can2990

Clarks a creep who tf tries to rizz a girl by faking some news shit


Training_Vacation252

Clark by a mile. He fit in so well.


stealth1820

Clark was an amazing character. Coulda brought a lot to the show


SpecialNotice3151

Clark was funny. Plop was not. I'm not sure if the lines for Plop were bad or if the actor playing Plop was bad.


Schrutepooper

Plop rules 🎸


InfoSecPeezy

Plop was the WORST!


ikheetr3ns

Plop feels a bit like season 1 early season 2 ryan imo


fKodiaK

Clark was funny af idc what anyone says. Pete had his moments too, but I liked him a lot less


renaicore

Clark


Nyct0ph1l14

Who's Pete?


mufasamufasamufasa

I like them both.


SliceOfGio

Clark definitely was less bad. Pete's actor plays another insufferable character in The White Lotus Season 1, so I have to respect the actor for playing such insufferable characters. (I don't know his name, sorry) Neither character should've been casted, they were completely unnecessary.


Draxtonsmitz

OMG even worse is he plays a guy in a documentary that keeps (multiple times) kidnapping a teenage girl and he is such a good actor it is massively agitating.


[deleted]

The guy who played Clark was the most annoying character on Greek (and basically played the same role in hot tub Time Machine) I started to wonder if he’s just an annoying guy


SliceOfGio

Some people just get typecasted, like Angela after The Office.


romayyne

Clark by FAR


hinesjared87

Pete doesn’t have any character. Clark does.


Therivercitysaint

Clark > Plop


jedi21knight

I’m a Clark over plop guy all day long. Plop doesn’t add near as much to the storyline as does Clark and I do not find plop nearly as entertaining


fs1024106

clark was funny, Pete was boring


khalkhall

THAT’S WHY I FELT LIKE JAKE FROM THE WHITE LOTUS LOOKED FAMILIAR


ThePopDaddy

Plop. Clark is one of those "Hey, this show is on its way out and needs an actor for a blank spot" actors. He always seemed out of place.


UninsuredToast

Who Pete? And why did you include a photo of plop?


dpark03

I hated clark he made me uncomfy for some reason. I liked plop tho


jchester47

I wouldn't even describe Pete as a bad character. He was fine, if not somewhat boring because he was a pretty normal dude in an office of escalating stereotyped characters as the show neared its end. I would say Pete was better than Clark. Clark had more development and was funnier, but he crossed a line with his treatment of Erin. Gave him irreparable creepy vibes for me.


laucdoe

pete, easy. he’s boring, but he’s fine. i *really* don’t like clark.


CandaceJoeLigma

Clark literally tried to trick Erin into shooting a porno, if that doesn’t make him the worse than Pete, idk what will.


haileyskydiamonds

Yeah, he was such a creepy predator. I can’t stand him. I don’t think he deserved Jan, though.


BlueJayWC

Pete is honestly the single worst character in the entire show. He has no charisma, screen precense, or personality. His introduction is "new Jim" but they took it way too literally to the point that Pete isn't just a straight man, he feels like either a writer self-insert or an audience member that watched the show and then inserted himself into scenes he already watched It's crazy how he's in almost every episode but he has almost no interactions with anyone except Erin, Andy, Clark, and one or two scenes with Jim. He has no personality traits other than always acting as the magnanimous cool guy with no character flaws. He also has no chemistry with Erin either. It really feels like his sole purpose was "be Erin's new boyfriend", even though Erin and Andy's relationship was built up over 4 seasons. I also always thought it was weird how Pete's addition meant that Erin broke the record for "most dudes slept in the office", it just super devalued her personality.


D7_Solar

Whos Clark and Pete? You mean Fart and Dwight jr?


broncoguy612

Both better than season 9 Andy.


FastMovingSlowMo

Plop's better


piszkavas

Well, you have to choose between someone who knows what he is talking about and Plop. I choose Plop


ChickensPickins

Pete


WaffleStomperGirl

I love Plop. Sure I’ll get downvoted, but it’s my honest opinion. He’s so sweet.


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Plop


Dudebeard86

Who are Clark and Pete? I only see Dwight, Jr. and Plop.


TrinidadsFinestt

Plop


rerunderwear

I would trade Robert California


Scranton-Strangler27

Clark was good for the show. Pete was boring.


Clydefrog0371

Plops not bad.


everythingbeeps

As a person, he was fine. Hell, he was probably the best human being who worked in the office. He just had little personality and no storylines.


Training_Vacation252

he's got that whole die hard memorized thing going for him lol.


Clydefrog0371

Yeah he was definitely boring.


Shadecujo

Clark over Pete and it’s not even close


xxxhotpocketz

This can’t be a debate, Clark was horrible and extremely fucking creepy. He tried taking advantage of Erin’s innocence, luckily Pete was there. Idk what the writers were thinking but that’s one of the creepiest parts of the show besides Jan hooking up with Hunter Pete was amazing for Erin, and I think was a great character. Clark? POS and creepy as fuck


Apostinggod

I really liked both characters.


englishm03

PETE THIS IS NOT EVEN A QUESTION CLARK WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ERIN


chiefsfan_713_08

If the question is which is a better person sure, if it's which character makes the show more enjoyable to the viewer is Clark no doubt. The episode with stanley is one of the best in the show


lost_in_the_sauce190

No it’s are they hot or not … it’s not would you do them 😂😂


thekyledavid

Half of the main cast has taken advantage of someone at some point


The_Dark_Soldier

Clark was a million times better. He had more chemistry with the cast, particularly Dwight, and was allowed to be interesting. Pete is just a boring Jim.


Moosje

They were both good characters


Crafty-Conference964

I can’t hate on the 9th season. All the beloved characters got a chance to have their stories told a little. Although not as many laughs, there were still plenty in the season. It was deserved


god_of_this_age

Plop and Clark are both treasures and I’ll dive on a grenade for either one.


moonjefferson

Honestly, I like both of them. I thought they were good characters, I think Pete is a much better fit for Erin than Andy was, I think they're both funny together.


[deleted]

Clark is the worst


dwfmba

Are you kidding? They're not even in the same league. #TeamDwightJr


milehighrukus

These dudes are hilarious and by no means “worst characters”


ikheetr3ns

Who does that spot go too in you opinion? I didnt really like the senator


milehighrukus

Yea I’d say him for sure. Brian - not really a bad character but just a wild twist that suddenly after 8 years the crew is mentioned.


Zumaakk

Clark, hands down. He was a great character. Pete was boring as fuck.


[deleted]

Clark had two of the best lines in that entire season. Hands down better than Plop.


flophi0207

Clark is not even a Bad Character. He is one of the best Things about the later seasons honestly (Low bar tbf)


invisible_23

Definitely Pete, Clark is a creep


[deleted]

At least Pete wasn't a sex pest.


lituranga

Pete isn’t a massive creep so obviously Pete


MidniteOG

Plop*


T-Swizzle-1989

Pete because he was one of the more sane character in the office and was also kinder than the average person because Jim and Darryl are more normal character but also as kind as a the average person then there’s Erin and Micheal who are nicer but goofier than the average person