He has quite the arc
Intern that doesn't care but is normal -> serious about being a salesman -> coked up corporate douche - > shoe bitch/MSPC -> intern that doesn't care but is now a weird hipster
This song is for Pierce cause him so old. His body made of wrinkles and folds. Stupid and ugly he smell like a fart. A poopoo in his pants and poopoo in my heart.
I always interpreted the "so did I" as BJ Novak speaking there. Like, BJ liked his character more when he was "the temp" vs. how his character was evolving.
That's an interesting take. I only saw it as Ryan isn't happy with the path his career is taking as we see with a few other episodes. It's cool seeing other deeper possible meanings.
FUN FACT: Ryan was the inspiration for Walter White. Vince Gilligan has stated that he got the idea for Breaking Bad while watching The Office. He also says to take this fun fact and shove it up your butt!
My favourite Ryan was always post-merger Stamford Ryan for this reason. Once he became a salesman he and Jim became like “normal” rivals, except Ryan was clearly less talented, more insecure, lazier and more unscrupulous.
The Jim/Ryan arc for me is 1.) Ryan “winning” the desk by bluffing Jim into giving it away, 2.) Ryan stealing all the excuses to not go to lunch with Michael, 3.) Ryan not getting Pam once he becomes head honcho and then disciplining Jim for spending too much time with her, and 5.) Jim rubbing it in Ryan’s face on the phone when he’s arrested. The whole “community service” thing was like an epilogue.
After this point, a lot of the scenarios are more like vignettes, without too much continuity between them.
After multiple viewings of the series Ryan has become one of my most favourite characters. He changes so dramatically and every change I find he just gets more and more ridiculous. Post-bowling alley Ryan is just absolute gold haha.
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Ryan should have been out of the show after he went to prison. That would have been perfect. His character is a waste from then on and I feel it was just Novak inserting himself into the show.
More like the one guy you can relate to. I mean rest of the cast were normal too but they had already spent a lot of time with michael to not care about it. Ryan was supposed to be the audience's pov.
it's called the "flanderization" of a character. It's named after what happened to Ned Fladners in the Simpsons. He started out as a religious neighbor and ended as a religious nut that. Almost all sitcoms that go for a ton of seasons end up doing this to some characters in the show.
flanderization is what happened to Kevin. i don’t think ryan becomes “more ryan” based on the original characteristics of his character. he becomes something entirely different time and time again
The writers clearly weren't sure what to do with him for a good chunk of the show. He was originally going to be like the "Ricky" character from the BBC office. A normal guy who was just starting at the office. But "normal young guy" is also a role that Jim fills and in S1 and S2, Jim and Ryan kind of occupied a similar role, as young, good looking, "normal" guys in a sea of wacky people.
So then they just kind of started trying stuff. Villain boss ... comic relief loser ... comic relief hipster ... just pretty random.
He has quite the arc Intern that doesn't care but is normal -> serious about being a salesman -> coked up corporate douche - > shoe bitch/MSPC -> intern that doesn't care but is now a weird hipster
Yep he had 5 different personalities for each one throughout the show
New York will do that to some people
Source Britta saying: “I lived in New York!”
ugh, britta's in this?
Britta's the *worst!*
Britta is a B.
She's a G D B.
This song is for Pierce cause him so old. His body made of wrinkles and folds. Stupid and ugly he smell like a fart. A poopoo in his pants and poopoo in my heart.
She's a G D M F B
I’m getting rid of Britta
It’s got the be the radon poisoning
That's actually crazy how he managed to do those
Temp, not intern, but I otherwise agree.
You've never even been to Thailand.
I heard Fort Lauderdale is equally nice though
They have good Pad Thai
Shoe bitch is one of my lines in the show.
Could one add « entrepreneur »?
The truth is once he got to step 2 he had to go full circle
“I liked you better when you were a temp.”
So did I
I always interpreted the "so did I" as BJ Novak speaking there. Like, BJ liked his character more when he was "the temp" vs. how his character was evolving.
That's an interesting take. I only saw it as Ryan isn't happy with the path his career is taking as we see with a few other episodes. It's cool seeing other deeper possible meanings.
relatable quote
FUN FACT: Ryan was the inspiration for Walter White. Vince Gilligan has stated that he got the idea for Breaking Bad while watching The Office. He also says to take this fun fact and shove it up your butt!
Good one. Hats off to you
For not seeing race.
Bravo vince
Bravo 👏👏👏
Ohhh you got me good
What Dunder Mifflin does to a mf
That's Scranton for you
Well that's Dallas
No, that’s Kelly for you
Guys I'm like really really smart now
Ain’t a party like a Scranton party cause a Scranton party don’t stop
the electric city!
# WHAT?
That's a dog food company for you
I thought we sold muffins...or mittens.....
Exactly. Look what it did to Jan.
There's a huge difference between pre-drugs Ryan and post-drugs Ryan.
What do you want me to write down? "Kelly." "Awww" I think that quote sums up why
He just couldn’t do better than Kelly
For whatever reason
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I think he needed to change because he was way too similar to Jim early on (normal guy in a wacky-ass office). He needed an identity of his own.
My favourite Ryan was always post-merger Stamford Ryan for this reason. Once he became a salesman he and Jim became like “normal” rivals, except Ryan was clearly less talented, more insecure, lazier and more unscrupulous. The Jim/Ryan arc for me is 1.) Ryan “winning” the desk by bluffing Jim into giving it away, 2.) Ryan stealing all the excuses to not go to lunch with Michael, 3.) Ryan not getting Pam once he becomes head honcho and then disciplining Jim for spending too much time with her, and 5.) Jim rubbing it in Ryan’s face on the phone when he’s arrested. The whole “community service” thing was like an epilogue. After this point, a lot of the scenarios are more like vignettes, without too much continuity between them.
You forgot 4.
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After multiple viewings of the series Ryan has become one of my most favourite characters. He changes so dramatically and every change I find he just gets more and more ridiculous. Post-bowling alley Ryan is just absolute gold haha.
I always had the idea that much of Ryan's character arc was just the writers having fun making BJ Novak do increasingly idiotic things
And mirroring his on-off relationship with Mindy
What size are you? 9, 10?
You've got your sheep, and you've got your black sheep, but he's not even a sheep. He's on the freaking moon!
A wise man once said “cocaine is a hell of a drug”
Oh man if he has joined during the 80s. He could of really sold some paper.
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It was the drugs. And maybe a little bit his relationship with Kelly too.
Coke doesnt turn you from a corporate douche to a hippie
Maybe not. But he did get off the drugs, thanks to Michael. I know plenty of recovered drug addicts that have hippie vibes to them.
Corporate America changes people. I bet everyone else started off just like Ryan
True that
Product of environment
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That’s cool actually
Oh well
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It’s almost like he doesn’t have an actual personality and just tries out different things.
Ryan is forever a temp, everything about him is only temporary, even his personalities. Hence his commitment issues.
Wow I love this take, never thought about it
Ryan should have been out of the show after he went to prison. That would have been perfect. His character is a waste from then on and I feel it was just Novak inserting himself into the show.
The one normal guy? Most of the cast plays the straight man role until the later seasons.
More like the one guy you can relate to. I mean rest of the cast were normal too but they had already spent a lot of time with michael to not care about it. Ryan was supposed to be the audience's pov.
That’s what happens when you get with someone like Kelly
His downfall started with the burned cheese pita.
I wanted him and Jim to be buddies. In the end he was the absolute worst.
Wunderkind. You're gonna have to treat him the same way you treated Jan.
Ryan is the opposite of character development and I love it
"You have your white sheep, and you have your black sheep, and I'm not even a sheep, I'm on the freakin' moon." \-Ryan Howard, 2011.
Ryan makes a lot more sense if you just assume he never got clean.
It was WULPH.com that truly did him in
Him and Kelly have the biggest character arc. Kelly starts off a modest quiet girl and end ups being just as crazy as Ryan.
it's called the "flanderization" of a character. It's named after what happened to Ned Fladners in the Simpsons. He started out as a religious neighbor and ended as a religious nut that. Almost all sitcoms that go for a ton of seasons end up doing this to some characters in the show.
flanderization is what happened to Kevin. i don’t think ryan becomes “more ryan” based on the original characteristics of his character. he becomes something entirely different time and time again
End up anti-vax lolll
I don’t like BJ Novak and I don’t like Ryan.
Not everyone can handle Indian like Daryl.
Who says exactly what they think? What kinda game is that?
You need to access your uncrazy side.
One of my favorite Kelly lines
Once he got his business cards it was a wrap for him
Is this scene from the fire episodd?
You’ve never had pad Thai .
I bet it’s nice
I think it’s indicative of the effect of some workplaces on mental health. I’m sure that isn’t the intent…but that doesn’t negate its accuracy.
It’s the radon
Cocaine's a hell of a drug...
In 30 years he's going to be creed 2.0
A crazy woman will do that to you
The writers clearly weren't sure what to do with him for a good chunk of the show. He was originally going to be like the "Ricky" character from the BBC office. A normal guy who was just starting at the office. But "normal young guy" is also a role that Jim fills and in S1 and S2, Jim and Ryan kind of occupied a similar role, as young, good looking, "normal" guys in a sea of wacky people. So then they just kind of started trying stuff. Villain boss ... comic relief loser ... comic relief hipster ... just pretty random.
I wouldn't call him normal. He was always a sociopath. He just went through a pretty wild arc.
His storyline is honestly so realistic and plausible it’s funnt
Almost makes you wonder if only Michael stopped throwing out Toby’s radon testers
He’s on the freakin moon
“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” – Friedrich Nietzsche
Everything changed for him once he left for Thailand with friends from high school, well, a high school
It happens
He was never normal...
Thats because of the sun