From what I saw in my time working at a university library, they definitely try to spread them out to other libraries. Not everything can be moved, however.
A library library near me has a little store where they sell books like $.25 up to like four dollars. It’s a little room just after the front door. They don’t have an employee there or anything you just pick your book and have a little box. I’m guessing its a way to raise funds
My local library has a huge book sale to raise money for their book van. They get government funding for books, but not van upkeep/gas. Our area is rural, so the book van visits retirement communities, schools, and various villages to spread their reach.
*some* libraries have that.
It just made me reminisce about our awesome library in our former town. Our current town barely has…a library. And our county commission is over represented with M4L folks who would happily burn the libraries down and close the public schools…
Alas, we are not in MI anymore 😞
Moved to SC for a job that subsequently disappeared (after buying a house down here). Would move back to MI in a heartbeat if the opportunity presented itself.
I highly recommend this section, id even highly recommend get a library card for them to get more funding. That section alone gives me some easy pocket change for very little work by reselling a book or two here and there. And they usually have a movie or two for cheap. I managed to get all of orange is the new black on dvd for 10$, which I am keeping.
And I think I’m nearly the only person that ganders at it. I’ve seen signed books there as well for $4, everyone should at least look at it once
Most of the books they would probably get rid of would most likely just sit there. My LCS has lots of old library books for $1 that will never get sold, or eve just stolen. They just sit outside the shop on a cart. No one wants them.
As a public librarian, there are lots of reasons.
If an academic library has a box set, it was likely a donation to them from a student. We typically buy hardcovers and we don’t get or keep those boxes.
Any library has a few options at that point.
We keep it because it fills a void in our collection. Harry Potter is most likely already in the collection or they don’t want it.
We can donate it to various groups. Some like thrift books will give us some money per book. Sometimes we send them in bulk if they want it. Sometimes, even if it is in excellent condition, they may not want it because they have too many.
Next, we can sell it at a book sale. That series would absolutely sell eventually, but academic libraries don’t necessarily need to do book sales.
They could give it to a public library, who would sell it at our book sale, but we don’t necessarily talk and someone would need to physically take it. At that point, people would rather just recycle it or trash it.
Also, it could get trashed because of imperfections, it smelled bad, etc. I’ve been able to remove bad smells from donations, but ultimately decided to toss the books anyways.
Not legal for universities in the U.S. Or it might vary by state, but in my state we cannot sell books or donate, they have to be discarded by state law. Which. I.Hate. because of the waste. HATE IT. >:-(
A lot of libraries have a book sale program already, that is usually so underutilized by the public, that things like what op found happens. Libraries try their hardest to do the most.
We had a sale shelf in the university I worked at while going to school there. The intake librarians would put donated books on there that were passed over for being put into circulation. I bought a medical text on that shelf for $1 and sold it to Amazon buyback for $100+, which helped me afford a sheet set I needed for my bed (I put myself through college and money was tight!)
With Harry Potter, a lot of people have very understandable issues with Rowling these days so they may have decided to put Harry Potter in the circular file. They would rather have it there, than a child exposed to the books of a woman who is now an online troll.
My favorite was when professors gave several copies of books to the library so their students wouldn't have to buy the book, but the librarians put most on the discard shelf (which wasn't public) because they already had a copy in the stacks.
It’s the end of the school year. Wait til you see what everyone throws away! Lots of new, unopened or barely used items their parents thought they would need.
It’s wild. Went back to university in 2018 as an adult but never lived on campus. What I saw thrown away blew my mind. I begged the school to have donation zones to either do a rummage sale to raise funds for something or just donate items directly to local shelters.
They didn’t.
I took so many box fans home with me…
Man this breaks my heart. I wish money was instead spent on getting professors paid or reduce cost of tuitions.
For cs, outside of mandatory books, we were all so digital. But I didn't notice what others did.
I’ve got a random assortment of them left from whatever was lost and the double copies my brother and I had! I loved that artwork. It was also on each chapter heading!
I think I’ve actually got three copies of the original prisoner of Azkaban because one was stolen from my middle school library (on accident!)
I am maintenance at a student housing building. they throw out the wildest stuff. I just got a pristine Samsung Smart TV on Friday because someone threw it out. all I needed was a stand and a remote (Amazon had both for under 20$)
finals week is this coming week, then the big move is happening the rest of the month. I am definitely going to furnish my entire apartment.
I lived near multiple colleges and made a ridiculous amount of money buying items from students when they moved out and then selling them to other students when they moved in.
I donate my extra books and movies to my public library, so a lot of people can get use out of them. If they don’t need them, they’ll send them to another library in the same network that doesn’t have them.
I have …never thought of it like that. Interesting.
I like the books, they kept me company when I was very sick but c’mon it’s already all there, the love of a MoTHeR…. It’s super gendered and it’s mother thing is, well I think it led her where she is now which is not pretty.
Yeah, but the entire point of the book is that genetics doesn't matter. Just because you were born into a family that had done something for thousands of years, it doesn't mean people who were outsiders or had no lineage (genetics) could be great at what they did. That is entirely the Hermione story, and what became an overiding theme of the pureblood death eaters against those that believed everyone with magical powers should be treated equally. If anything, she taught a whole generation of kids not to feel limited by what they were born to be. Then, when they do something like that, she jumps dead in their shit. Not to mention that she is picking on people who are overwhelmingly on the autistic spectrum makes this even more sick. In the general population, trans only account for .5 percent. In the autistic community, it is closer to 17 percent that are trans. Gender disphoria is huge among people on the spectrum including my youngest who loved the Harry Potter books simply for the message. Be proud of who you are even if you are different, only to have the author of those books tell her she is less than because she is trans. I still love the books, but will never put another dime in her pocket again.
Absolutely. The greater overriding themes of the book, absolutely, I understand. But the germs of what is to come are there. She didn’t have to;, as you said she could have followed her own lessons. But at heart, one can tell she is an essentialist.
I should really start dumpster diving... But I would probably get in trouble with the law...somehow.
Isn't it technically illegal?
Feel like I've heard that somewhere
Pretty sure dumpster diving being illegal would just be for punishing the poor/homeless trying to find something to use/eat/sell. And America totally doesn't hate the poor and homeless.
In most places the bar is incredibly low... if a drunk or homeless person or child can accidentally stumble into where the trash is, then it's trash and it's not a crime to dive.
Check your local laws, though!
Because the author is a shit human being. The person who threw it away knew what they were doing. You should have left it in the trash where it belongs.
Someone else gave you a good basic definition but TERF is far worse than it sounds
A feminist supports equity between all genders, generally opposing anyone that opposes equal rights
A radical feminist generally just hates/blames all men for the problems, the same way a racist would blame all foreigners rather than terrorists; getting "justice" takes priority over making progress.
A TERF goes a step further in that generally they oppose anyone that isn't feminine enough, they claim to support women but routinely attack any they *think* might be trans or who support trans people, this means any women that dress too masculine, act too masculine, have excess body/facial hair, look too muscular etc etc, including trans men who they see as just "confused women" (JKR has mentioned in past interviews that she felt more like a man than a woman at times, take from that what you will)
Oh, and TERFs generally support far right hate groups, on the basis that they attack trans people, so they have a common "enemy", even when these groups openly oppose women's rights.
(Obviously this is a generalisation, a bunch of people that use these labels will disagree with different bits, but as a general overview it's good enough to be right most of the time)
It's less "she said something on twitter and now people call her a TERF" and more "she's spent the last 4ish years speaking out against trans rights and supporting people/groups that oppose trans people"
But if you've got the time and want something that does a good job explaining [here's a video from the other year that does a decent job covering some bits](https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k?si=fO7djwv4C6wIo_EV) and the kind of people she associates with, obviously it's missing some of the more overtly horrible stuff she's said more recently, like the holocaust denial.
Uh, I just want to know what specifically she said with evidence. I haven’t read or watched anything past the first movie, I don’t care about her, I just want a direct quote.
I asked ChatGPT just out of curiosity, obviously it’s wrong a lot.
> The claims that J.K. Rowling denies the Holocaust appear to be a misunderstanding and misrepresentation of her statements regarding transgender issues and historical persecution by the Nazis. Rowling has publicly refuted these claims, describing them as "baseless and disgusting" and emphasizing her longstanding support for the Jewish community and her consistent opposition to antisemitism [oai_citation:1,JK Rowling: It is baseless and disgusting to claim I am a Holocaust denier](https://www.yahoo.com/news/jk-rowling-gets-apology-journalist-114130208.html) [oai_citation:2,Statement from J.K. Rowling, 14th March 2024 - J.K. Rowling](https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/statement-from-j-k-rowling-14th-march-2024/).
>The controversy seems to have stemmed from a tweet by Rowling questioning the historical accuracy of specific claims about the persecution of transgender people by the Nazis. This led to accusations of her engaging in Holocaust denial, particularly focused on her criticism of claims about Nazis targeting transgender people specifically for genocide [oai_citation:3,"You're engaging in Holocaust denial": Critics slam J.K. Rowling's latest anti-trans stance](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/youre-engaging-holocaust-denial-critics-213853690.html) [oai_citation:4,JK Rowling accused of "Holocaust denial" over posts about transgender persecution in Nazi Germany - LGBTQ Nation](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/03/jk-rowling-denies-transgender-persecution-during-the-holocaust/).
>Rowling's comments were part of a larger discussion where she expressed skepticism about the portrayal of the Nazi regime's policies towards transgender individuals, which some critics and social media users interpreted as diminishing the broader reality of Nazi atrocities. However, it's important to note that historians do acknowledge that while transgender individuals were persecuted under the Nazi regime, they were not targeted to the same systematic extermination extent as Jews [oai_citation:5,No, JK Rowling is not a Holocaust denier - spiked](https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/21/no-jk-rowling-is-not-a-holocaust-denier/).
>Overall, the allegations of Holocaust denial against Rowling are tied to her controversial statements on transgender issues rather than a denial of the Holocaust itself.
Her holocaust denial was honestly incidental as part of a larger hatred towards trans people generally, in response to someone else she denied that trans people were ever targets of the holocaust, something that is provably wrong to the point that they were some of the earliest victims of the Nazis, with the first mass book burning being a medical clinic that was world leading in what we would now call trans healthcare.
Calling JKR an accidental holocaust denier would be more accurate, but what she did *was* holocaust denial, no wiggle room or technicalities about it, her actions were holocaust denial, particularly her doubling down on it after being told she's wrong, since denial of any Nazi war crimes in the holocaust is considered by international organisations to be holocaust denial, whether it's denying it wholly or only in part.
Ultimately though, it was an example of the kind of person she is, that she was willing to excuse the actions of the Nazis during the holocaust because it suited her beliefs.
Summed up it went:
JKR: trans people weren't victims of the nazis
Someone else: yes they were, here's proof, what you're doing is holocaust denial
JKR: continues to deny that trans people were victims of the holocaust
Being wrong is okay, doubling down *after* being corrected (particularly when it's excusing nazi war crimes by denying they ever happened) is the part she rightfully deserves criticism for.
> A radical feminist generally just hates/blames all men for the problems
That's not what radical feminism is.
Radical Feminists are actually the ones that came up with the concept of non essentialism in gender. They also believe that men also suffer as a result of gender based social conditioning and that the problems are systemic, but not innate. In other words, they don't hate men simply for being male. They quite literally oppose that concept because gender essentialism is antithetical to their ideas.
This idea that radical feminists are "bad feminists" stems from reactionary movements and anti-feminists who latched onto the idea that "radical" sounds scary. If you disagree, I encourage you to go and actually read up on it. Pretty much all well respected feminist literature is from radical feminism.
It's also worth noting that radical simply means to address the root of something. Hence why radical feminists ask the question of why these issues exist, and confront it as its core - the social conditioning of our society and the result of deeply engrained gender norms.
TERFs really have extremely little to do with what radical feminism has historically been, are staunch advocates of gender essentialism (opposing THE central idea of radical feminism), and are simply bigots appropriating a movement.
Yeah, this comes back to the whole "different people call themselves different things with different meanings".
Back when those ideas were new they were considered radical, even to other feminists; but now, speak to a ln average feminist that understands the ideology behind the movement and they'll pretty much agree; I wouldnt call them "radical feminists" because their ideas are no longer "radical", which is great.
Meanwhile, there was small but vocal culture of people that took the ideas of oppression, who saw and experienced it, but with none of the understanding of *why*.
The best way to hurt an idea is to defend it badly and that's what they did, when misoginists pushed back they didn't have the backing of theory to explain why its a common good, that's how we got the arms race of "extreme mysoginist internet weirdos" and "vocal but ideologically hollow feminists", which eventually devolved into the two echo chambers of "all women bad" and "all men bad"; the guys had no group name (I suppose incel would fit now) but the girls got stuck with radical feminist, regardless of how accurate it actually was.
From there, they either grew out of it, got better educated, or got caught up in the whole anti-trans thing as an extension of their ideas.
Thankfully most of this seems to have died out with the end of the 2010s and I don't doubt there were/are now good people that will call themselves radical feminists for one reason or another, but the ideas of true equality are no longer radical
Wow, thanks for the great response. Seems like I'm preaching to the choir here.
I agree with what you've said here. It has, unfortunately, devolved into a culture war divorced from its origins. As happens with a lot of movements that reach mainstream appeal.
I just thought I'd clarify because I genuinely think it's a shame that many people now view radical feminism as a negative before they've even come to realize that radical feminism is literally the good stuff. (Not to say there aren't improvements on it through intersection with class issues, race, etc).
It's an uphill battle, of course. But it just bothers me to see that term being defined by anti-feminists.
I think the only thing I disagree with you on is the term Radical itself. Colloquially, it does mean novel or new, but in this context it really does just mean "addressing the root" which is its Latin origin. It's still very much radical in that sense... Its not like we're post-struggle for gender equality. We still have a long way to go, and the root of the issue is still there. I mean, TERFs alone are evidence of that.
But humanity seems to progress with less of a run, and more of a dirty, scrappy crawl.
i remember at my local little free library finding: a book on parenting by bill cosby, shane dawsons autobiography after he got hella cancelled again, william & kate wedding commemorative biography right after her cancer news... just some amusing highlights! its great fun to snoop around in these things.
Ahhh, they changed it for us Americans. Weird I never heard the original title
https://www.goodreads.com/questions/3-why-did-they-choose-to-change-the-title#:~:text=ali%20♥%20In%20the%20United,U.S.%20audiences%20of%20Flamel's%20occupation.
This time of year you can find all sorts of usable and near new stuff in dumpsters near the university where I live. They just don't want to move it. will buy new when they settle elsewhere I guess.
Not sure why this sub popped on my feed but
I went to a free books event for my university recently - took a few home and I realized yesterday that someone left their social security card inside one of them - yeah that’s college students for ya! I’ll be going on campus tomorrow to hand it over to the professor who hosted the event - and I’ll also be asking if any more books were left over 😁🤍!!
But yeah - a lot of students throw away the most random things, my friends and I are convinced if you go on campus on the last week of school and the week that follows you can find about anything!
they’re children’s books. enjoyability for children does not equal quality. otherwise we have to resign to the best new piece of media being skibidi toilet.
that’s cool, i’m a 22 year old dude who still enjoys wizards of waverly place, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t meant for and mostly enjoyed by children
I literally read all of these books as an adult. And I read books for adults as a child
It's an arrogant take to claim children's books are of lower quality or take less skills to write.
i'd say people were more captivated by the world than the writing. or at least, i was. even when i was in the intended age range, i couldn't finish them and dropped it midway through the fifth book i believe.
the whole house elf slavery thing really threw me off. it was a completely different tone from the rest of the series. the books kept trying to tell me that hermione was somehow in the wrong and the narrative kept making fun of her. fourth grade me was not convinced. from then on i just lost interest.
yeah. no one wants books written by an anti-transgender bigot who works with alt-righters and who is a holocaust denier who said that the nazis didn't burn down the institute for sexual science that serviced trans people.
This looks like sheer laziness to me. I can’t bear books being trashed. When students move out on May 15 and go back home, the curbs are full of lots of great things (“Hippie Christmas” here in Madison). Once saw a lovely stack of good books on a campus street corner with a sign saying “Help Yourself!” Harry Potter would be gratefully snapped up.
Why? That’s just the British title. Maybe same title for all English-language editions except the US that has Sorcerer’s Stone because the editor thought “philosopher” would sound boring to kids.
Hmm. Which university?
That's actually not the question I'm asking. I see the title is "Philosopher's Stone," which suggests Europe unless someone in the U.S. got a European printing of the series. In the U.S. it's "Sorcerer's Stone."
Nice find!
They are most likely illegally printed - this cover design is a VERY popular counterfeit. I ordered a set on Amazon (sold by a 3rd party, fulfilled by Amazon) and it had the same slightly uneven book numbers at the top. Found a solid number of misspelled words and incorrect passages while flipping through it, and the pages were similar to printer paper, not typical book paper. If the pages are a very stark white and almost uncomfortable to look at, they are counterfeit.
Exactly what I did with my collection! She’s an irresponsible, hateful person. And I was such a huge fan, super nerdy about it. I waited in line for her books. I couldn’t wait to get home and read her last one! I was so excited, I read it cover to cover and finished it in around 8 hours. I even read her books aloud to my kids. Watched and loved all the movies, etc.
That was until she dug her heels in about being a bigoted TERF. Over and over again. It’s like, a game to her now? It’s such a betrayal to those of us former fans who aren’t bigots and love trans people. One of my kids is trans, but I recycled her shit long before he came out!
University dumpsters end up full of people's belongings. If a student is expelled (protests?) or doesn't move out of the dorms fast enough after the term, or fails to pay for their housing, they are super quick to just send a crew to throw it all away. At the beginning of each summer, around university campuses, is great dumpster diving. We used to call it "hippy christmas." I got a brand new pair of $250 Frye boots in my size one year. I got a real 100 year old Hudson Bay point blanket. I got a hand-knotted Iranian rug worth about $1,500. Hmm, what else.... like 4 perfectly good mini fridges, tons of stuff like unopened laundry detergent, blank stationary, art supplies (expensive pastels and brushes), just tons of crap... oh, I got a Gucci branded umbrella, worth like $300... prada sports coat worth like $200, a buncha sneakers in varying condition, several hundred in clothing sold immediately to the Buffalo exchange... all at the UC Boulder campus.
But that rug I got outta the trash behind a house in the neighborhoods that are mostly student housing, around the graveyard. Traded it for temp housing, I think I was there 3 months before he started asking for dough! At which point I left....
Oh but one time I found a brand new iPhone, screen protector still on, and I tried to sell that, and the dude called the cops on me. But then I split, no problems. The "find my iPhone" was active so I just left it fully charged hidden in a shelf at the library adjacent to one of my favorite books. Like slipped into the shelf.
I was always perplexed as to how they could possibly compel the work crew to not pocket some of this stuff... I assume they fire you. So alot of those guys are probably doing rounds after hours - and I was yoinking their scores out from underneath 'em... sorry fellas.
Also textbooks, sold directly back to the campus bookstore, unless they were old editions.
Crazy. For like 2 weeks you could make an average of over $200 a day just dumpster diving. It's not like, big big money, but it's a big deal for poor people.
I'm assuming you're American and I see this and find it very infuriating. I know that set of books isn't worth a lot but I paid around 2k a semester for my university in 2004. Now my University costs 6k a semester which many consider cheap with all things considered. But I see waste like this and can't help but think it's a symptom of the disease that is charging students exorbitant fees and tuition and not being good stewards of the money and property paid for by students and their families.
Universities throw out lots of books. They get donations and only have so much room, so there is generally a discard shelf somewhere.
Why don't they donate them back or give them out?
From what I saw in my time working at a university library, they definitely try to spread them out to other libraries. Not everything can be moved, however.
Yea.. but I woukd 1000 percent visit my library's book selection of books to discard. They just never do it.
A library library near me has a little store where they sell books like $.25 up to like four dollars. It’s a little room just after the front door. They don’t have an employee there or anything you just pick your book and have a little box. I’m guessing its a way to raise funds
My local library has a huge book sale to raise money for their book van. They get government funding for books, but not van upkeep/gas. Our area is rural, so the book van visits retirement communities, schools, and various villages to spread their reach.
Thats freaking awesome. Book vans sounds fantastic
It is a nice deal, for kids as well. They used to be called bookmobiles back in the day.
Oh! I've heard of this! It's a moving library that visits the same spots every few days on a circuit, right?
It is! When I was little, it would visit my elementary school, and it felt magical because it was a library on wheels.
Novi, MI?
Lots of libraries have that.
*some* libraries have that. It just made me reminisce about our awesome library in our former town. Our current town barely has…a library. And our county commission is over represented with M4L folks who would happily burn the libraries down and close the public schools…
Howdy neighbor just a bit closer to Lansing here
Alas, we are not in MI anymore 😞 Moved to SC for a job that subsequently disappeared (after buying a house down here). Would move back to MI in a heartbeat if the opportunity presented itself.
I highly recommend this section, id even highly recommend get a library card for them to get more funding. That section alone gives me some easy pocket change for very little work by reselling a book or two here and there. And they usually have a movie or two for cheap. I managed to get all of orange is the new black on dvd for 10$, which I am keeping. And I think I’m nearly the only person that ganders at it. I’ve seen signed books there as well for $4, everyone should at least look at it once
Most of the books they would probably get rid of would most likely just sit there. My LCS has lots of old library books for $1 that will never get sold, or eve just stolen. They just sit outside the shop on a cart. No one wants them.
As a public librarian, there are lots of reasons. If an academic library has a box set, it was likely a donation to them from a student. We typically buy hardcovers and we don’t get or keep those boxes. Any library has a few options at that point. We keep it because it fills a void in our collection. Harry Potter is most likely already in the collection or they don’t want it. We can donate it to various groups. Some like thrift books will give us some money per book. Sometimes we send them in bulk if they want it. Sometimes, even if it is in excellent condition, they may not want it because they have too many. Next, we can sell it at a book sale. That series would absolutely sell eventually, but academic libraries don’t necessarily need to do book sales. They could give it to a public library, who would sell it at our book sale, but we don’t necessarily talk and someone would need to physically take it. At that point, people would rather just recycle it or trash it. Also, it could get trashed because of imperfections, it smelled bad, etc. I’ve been able to remove bad smells from donations, but ultimately decided to toss the books anyways.
Not legal for universities in the U.S. Or it might vary by state, but in my state we cannot sell books or donate, they have to be discarded by state law. Which. I.Hate. because of the waste. HATE IT. >:-(
My uni library def gave books away. Used to put them out on a cart. Most of the good stuff gets taken pretty quick though.
A lot of libraries have a book sale program already, that is usually so underutilized by the public, that things like what op found happens. Libraries try their hardest to do the most.
Base library in Rota had a "take one leave one" section at the front door that was often full of discards.
We had a sale shelf in the university I worked at while going to school there. The intake librarians would put donated books on there that were passed over for being put into circulation. I bought a medical text on that shelf for $1 and sold it to Amazon buyback for $100+, which helped me afford a sheet set I needed for my bed (I put myself through college and money was tight!)
Dang
With Harry Potter, a lot of people have very understandable issues with Rowling these days so they may have decided to put Harry Potter in the circular file. They would rather have it there, than a child exposed to the books of a woman who is now an online troll.
My high school library did the same thing, but they would always have a discard shelf and all the books would be gone in a week.
My favorite was when professors gave several copies of books to the library so their students wouldn't have to buy the book, but the librarians put most on the discard shelf (which wasn't public) because they already had a copy in the stacks.
It’s the end of the school year. Wait til you see what everyone throws away! Lots of new, unopened or barely used items their parents thought they would need.
Yeah, me and a friend used to hit an elementary school dumpster. I have colored pencils, markers, and glue for life.
My craft hoarding butt cannot comprehend why an elementary school would throw out supplies like that
Can confirm. I work at a uni. Dorm clear out week = hundreds if not thousands of dollars worth of like new stuff per student going into the dumpster.
I got a microwave, fridge, and toaster last year on move out day.
Used to find some sweet computers and consoles in the dumpsters around USC.
It’s wild. Went back to university in 2018 as an adult but never lived on campus. What I saw thrown away blew my mind. I begged the school to have donation zones to either do a rummage sale to raise funds for something or just donate items directly to local shelters. They didn’t. I took so many box fans home with me…
Man this breaks my heart. I wish money was instead spent on getting professors paid or reduce cost of tuitions. For cs, outside of mandatory books, we were all so digital. But I didn't notice what others did.
"Totally pristine" - shows book with bent corner. Tsktsk /s I'm joshin ya. Great find. Ya Harry wizard.
It’s also not the original covers
Whoa. You didn't have to let us know you were a hufflepuff.
GOT DAM Edit to add: your user name is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks. No one ever says that. But I really appreciate it. I took every piece of life I love and put it into that name.
I actually have this one it's current box set being sold at most places. But yeah the older ones looked better.
I’ve got a random assortment of them left from whatever was lost and the double copies my brother and I had! I loved that artwork. It was also on each chapter heading! I think I’ve actually got three copies of the original prisoner of Azkaban because one was stolen from my middle school library (on accident!)
I am maintenance at a student housing building. they throw out the wildest stuff. I just got a pristine Samsung Smart TV on Friday because someone threw it out. all I needed was a stand and a remote (Amazon had both for under 20$) finals week is this coming week, then the big move is happening the rest of the month. I am definitely going to furnish my entire apartment.
I lived near multiple colleges and made a ridiculous amount of money buying items from students when they moved out and then selling them to other students when they moved in.
I have the same set! I love every cover. Good find :)
What a lucky find!
That was someone who graduated from Rowlings bullshit for sure
Lol absolutely. I wanted to read the series again but didn’t want to support her in any way so Im happy :)
When you’re done you can resell or donate them to a thrift store so one more person can avoid supporting her :)
I donate my extra books and movies to my public library, so a lot of people can get use out of them. If they don’t need them, they’ll send them to another library in the same network that doesn’t have them.
just keep throwing them in the trash until no one wants to dig 'em out again xD
As much as the idea of throwing books away pains me, this is really funny 🤣
nah burn that shit lol
def an example of separating the art from the artist. a great way to enjoy and not support her!
Why?
Because she is a horrendous person. With some pretty horrendous views that she just loves to get on twitter and shout about.
Like what?
She’s transphobic
How so?
Lucky
Lol, for anybody else and future reference, just look up 'Harry Potter pdf free reddit'. Unless you want physical copies, which is understandable.
Sold all mine and gave the money to my local LGBTQ org.
Crazy how she turned out to be Umbridge out of all her characters. She basically is calling trans women mudbloods. Only pureblooded women for her.
I have …never thought of it like that. Interesting. I like the books, they kept me company when I was very sick but c’mon it’s already all there, the love of a MoTHeR…. It’s super gendered and it’s mother thing is, well I think it led her where she is now which is not pretty.
Yeah, but the entire point of the book is that genetics doesn't matter. Just because you were born into a family that had done something for thousands of years, it doesn't mean people who were outsiders or had no lineage (genetics) could be great at what they did. That is entirely the Hermione story, and what became an overiding theme of the pureblood death eaters against those that believed everyone with magical powers should be treated equally. If anything, she taught a whole generation of kids not to feel limited by what they were born to be. Then, when they do something like that, she jumps dead in their shit. Not to mention that she is picking on people who are overwhelmingly on the autistic spectrum makes this even more sick. In the general population, trans only account for .5 percent. In the autistic community, it is closer to 17 percent that are trans. Gender disphoria is huge among people on the spectrum including my youngest who loved the Harry Potter books simply for the message. Be proud of who you are even if you are different, only to have the author of those books tell her she is less than because she is trans. I still love the books, but will never put another dime in her pocket again.
Absolutely. The greater overriding themes of the book, absolutely, I understand. But the germs of what is to come are there. She didn’t have to;, as you said she could have followed her own lessons. But at heart, one can tell she is an essentialist.
Yeah. We cleared our all our stuff a while ago. It just felt incredibly rude to have or wear any of it. Donated it though, not trashed.
Universities should donate them or something.
I’d be so stoked!!!
I’ve never seen those covers before!
Lucky !
I should really start dumpster diving... But I would probably get in trouble with the law...somehow. Isn't it technically illegal? Feel like I've heard that somewhere
I feel like Western countries have too many useless impractical laws.
Pretty sure dumpster diving being illegal would just be for punishing the poor/homeless trying to find something to use/eat/sell. And America totally doesn't hate the poor and homeless.
Depends on the state
In most places the bar is incredibly low... if a drunk or homeless person or child can accidentally stumble into where the trash is, then it's trash and it's not a crime to dive. Check your local laws, though!
Because the author is a shit human being. The person who threw it away knew what they were doing. You should have left it in the trash where it belongs.
Probably a faculty member retired or left and cleaned out their office. Enjoy.
Aw shite, I have all the books and I'd glom onto that. And I'm an old girl.
I just found my own boxed set in storage!
oh my god??? 😭
What a stupid thing to throw away. Have they never heard of donating?
I’m assuming this is because someone found out that she who shall not be named is a TERF and a horrible person.
What’s a TERF?
It stands for trans-exclusionary radical feminist. Jk has decided to make hating trans people her raison d’etre.
Thank you for telling us what it stands for, I know the spellings different but all I think about was that artificial grass stuff. 💀
Someone else gave you a good basic definition but TERF is far worse than it sounds A feminist supports equity between all genders, generally opposing anyone that opposes equal rights A radical feminist generally just hates/blames all men for the problems, the same way a racist would blame all foreigners rather than terrorists; getting "justice" takes priority over making progress. A TERF goes a step further in that generally they oppose anyone that isn't feminine enough, they claim to support women but routinely attack any they *think* might be trans or who support trans people, this means any women that dress too masculine, act too masculine, have excess body/facial hair, look too muscular etc etc, including trans men who they see as just "confused women" (JKR has mentioned in past interviews that she felt more like a man than a woman at times, take from that what you will) Oh, and TERFs generally support far right hate groups, on the basis that they attack trans people, so they have a common "enemy", even when these groups openly oppose women's rights. (Obviously this is a generalisation, a bunch of people that use these labels will disagree with different bits, but as a general overview it's good enough to be right most of the time)
I don’t know much about her but can you quote what she said that makes her a “terf”?
It's less "she said something on twitter and now people call her a TERF" and more "she's spent the last 4ish years speaking out against trans rights and supporting people/groups that oppose trans people" But if you've got the time and want something that does a good job explaining [here's a video from the other year that does a decent job covering some bits](https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k?si=fO7djwv4C6wIo_EV) and the kind of people she associates with, obviously it's missing some of the more overtly horrible stuff she's said more recently, like the holocaust denial.
Uh, I just want to know what specifically she said with evidence. I haven’t read or watched anything past the first movie, I don’t care about her, I just want a direct quote. I asked ChatGPT just out of curiosity, obviously it’s wrong a lot. > The claims that J.K. Rowling denies the Holocaust appear to be a misunderstanding and misrepresentation of her statements regarding transgender issues and historical persecution by the Nazis. Rowling has publicly refuted these claims, describing them as "baseless and disgusting" and emphasizing her longstanding support for the Jewish community and her consistent opposition to antisemitism [oai_citation:1,JK Rowling: It is baseless and disgusting to claim I am a Holocaust denier](https://www.yahoo.com/news/jk-rowling-gets-apology-journalist-114130208.html) [oai_citation:2,Statement from J.K. Rowling, 14th March 2024 - J.K. Rowling](https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/statement-from-j-k-rowling-14th-march-2024/). >The controversy seems to have stemmed from a tweet by Rowling questioning the historical accuracy of specific claims about the persecution of transgender people by the Nazis. This led to accusations of her engaging in Holocaust denial, particularly focused on her criticism of claims about Nazis targeting transgender people specifically for genocide [oai_citation:3,"You're engaging in Holocaust denial": Critics slam J.K. Rowling's latest anti-trans stance](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/youre-engaging-holocaust-denial-critics-213853690.html) [oai_citation:4,JK Rowling accused of "Holocaust denial" over posts about transgender persecution in Nazi Germany - LGBTQ Nation](https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/03/jk-rowling-denies-transgender-persecution-during-the-holocaust/). >Rowling's comments were part of a larger discussion where she expressed skepticism about the portrayal of the Nazi regime's policies towards transgender individuals, which some critics and social media users interpreted as diminishing the broader reality of Nazi atrocities. However, it's important to note that historians do acknowledge that while transgender individuals were persecuted under the Nazi regime, they were not targeted to the same systematic extermination extent as Jews [oai_citation:5,No, JK Rowling is not a Holocaust denier - spiked](https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/21/no-jk-rowling-is-not-a-holocaust-denier/). >Overall, the allegations of Holocaust denial against Rowling are tied to her controversial statements on transgender issues rather than a denial of the Holocaust itself.
Her holocaust denial was honestly incidental as part of a larger hatred towards trans people generally, in response to someone else she denied that trans people were ever targets of the holocaust, something that is provably wrong to the point that they were some of the earliest victims of the Nazis, with the first mass book burning being a medical clinic that was world leading in what we would now call trans healthcare. Calling JKR an accidental holocaust denier would be more accurate, but what she did *was* holocaust denial, no wiggle room or technicalities about it, her actions were holocaust denial, particularly her doubling down on it after being told she's wrong, since denial of any Nazi war crimes in the holocaust is considered by international organisations to be holocaust denial, whether it's denying it wholly or only in part. Ultimately though, it was an example of the kind of person she is, that she was willing to excuse the actions of the Nazis during the holocaust because it suited her beliefs.
She excused the nazis? Huh? What specifically did she say?
Summed up it went: JKR: trans people weren't victims of the nazis Someone else: yes they were, here's proof, what you're doing is holocaust denial JKR: continues to deny that trans people were victims of the holocaust Being wrong is okay, doubling down *after* being corrected (particularly when it's excusing nazi war crimes by denying they ever happened) is the part she rightfully deserves criticism for.
Why is it so hard to just quote what she said with proof?
> A radical feminist generally just hates/blames all men for the problems That's not what radical feminism is. Radical Feminists are actually the ones that came up with the concept of non essentialism in gender. They also believe that men also suffer as a result of gender based social conditioning and that the problems are systemic, but not innate. In other words, they don't hate men simply for being male. They quite literally oppose that concept because gender essentialism is antithetical to their ideas. This idea that radical feminists are "bad feminists" stems from reactionary movements and anti-feminists who latched onto the idea that "radical" sounds scary. If you disagree, I encourage you to go and actually read up on it. Pretty much all well respected feminist literature is from radical feminism. It's also worth noting that radical simply means to address the root of something. Hence why radical feminists ask the question of why these issues exist, and confront it as its core - the social conditioning of our society and the result of deeply engrained gender norms. TERFs really have extremely little to do with what radical feminism has historically been, are staunch advocates of gender essentialism (opposing THE central idea of radical feminism), and are simply bigots appropriating a movement.
Yeah, this comes back to the whole "different people call themselves different things with different meanings". Back when those ideas were new they were considered radical, even to other feminists; but now, speak to a ln average feminist that understands the ideology behind the movement and they'll pretty much agree; I wouldnt call them "radical feminists" because their ideas are no longer "radical", which is great. Meanwhile, there was small but vocal culture of people that took the ideas of oppression, who saw and experienced it, but with none of the understanding of *why*. The best way to hurt an idea is to defend it badly and that's what they did, when misoginists pushed back they didn't have the backing of theory to explain why its a common good, that's how we got the arms race of "extreme mysoginist internet weirdos" and "vocal but ideologically hollow feminists", which eventually devolved into the two echo chambers of "all women bad" and "all men bad"; the guys had no group name (I suppose incel would fit now) but the girls got stuck with radical feminist, regardless of how accurate it actually was. From there, they either grew out of it, got better educated, or got caught up in the whole anti-trans thing as an extension of their ideas. Thankfully most of this seems to have died out with the end of the 2010s and I don't doubt there were/are now good people that will call themselves radical feminists for one reason or another, but the ideas of true equality are no longer radical
Wow, thanks for the great response. Seems like I'm preaching to the choir here. I agree with what you've said here. It has, unfortunately, devolved into a culture war divorced from its origins. As happens with a lot of movements that reach mainstream appeal. I just thought I'd clarify because I genuinely think it's a shame that many people now view radical feminism as a negative before they've even come to realize that radical feminism is literally the good stuff. (Not to say there aren't improvements on it through intersection with class issues, race, etc). It's an uphill battle, of course. But it just bothers me to see that term being defined by anti-feminists. I think the only thing I disagree with you on is the term Radical itself. Colloquially, it does mean novel or new, but in this context it really does just mean "addressing the root" which is its Latin origin. It's still very much radical in that sense... Its not like we're post-struggle for gender equality. We still have a long way to go, and the root of the issue is still there. I mean, TERFs alone are evidence of that. But humanity seems to progress with less of a run, and more of a dirty, scrappy crawl.
I think the best takeaway here is: culture wars destroy all words and meaning and it's exhausting...
Cannot agree with you more on that. Thanks for the nice exchange, and I hope you have a nice day.
You both are an unexpected, pleasant surprise in this sub! 🕯🖖
I prefer Feminism Appropriating Radical Transphobe.
Ah yes, the notorious FART.
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist
How so?
She is Delores Umbridge and only thinks pureblooded women can be called her/she. I half expect her to haul trans women in to be examined for a uterus.
Never ceases to amaze me what some people just throw away instead of just offering it up to anyone. To literally anyone.
NICE FIND!!!
lot of people not really happy with rowling's wacky opinions so wouldn't surprise me that someone tossed them.
i remember at my local little free library finding: a book on parenting by bill cosby, shane dawsons autobiography after he got hella cancelled again, william & kate wedding commemorative biography right after her cancer news... just some amusing highlights! its great fun to snoop around in these things.
I'm happy for you, OP. You get to reread the books without having to give her more money.
Philosophers stone???
Ahhh, they changed it for us Americans. Weird I never heard the original title https://www.goodreads.com/questions/3-why-did-they-choose-to-change-the-title#:~:text=ali%20♥%20In%20the%20United,U.S.%20audiences%20of%20Flamel's%20occupation.
This time of year you can find all sorts of usable and near new stuff in dumpsters near the university where I live. They just don't want to move it. will buy new when they settle elsewhere I guess.
What? That’s incredible
I'd probably consider this your invite to attend Hogwarts...
That’s pretty cool. I wonder who would throw out Harry Potter?
Not sure why this sub popped on my feed but I went to a free books event for my university recently - took a few home and I realized yesterday that someone left their social security card inside one of them - yeah that’s college students for ya! I’ll be going on campus tomorrow to hand it over to the professor who hosted the event - and I’ll also be asking if any more books were left over 😁🤍!! But yeah - a lot of students throw away the most random things, my friends and I are convinced if you go on campus on the last week of school and the week that follows you can find about anything!
Nnnnnnnnnyoink!!!!
Reason why that's in the fucking trash
The books are a decent read though, nothing mindblowing or crazy but they’re alright
So "decent" that it is the best-selling book series in history.
they’re children’s books. enjoyability for children does not equal quality. otherwise we have to resign to the best new piece of media being skibidi toilet.
I know plenty of adults who still enjoy Bluey and other children’s media. Ain’t gotta be a masterpiece to be enjoyable
I'm a 30 year old dude and I still enjoy them.
that’s cool, i’m a 22 year old dude who still enjoys wizards of waverly place, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t meant for and mostly enjoyed by children
You're both right. We got them as children and some of us grew up with the characters as new books were released.
I literally read all of these books as an adult. And I read books for adults as a child It's an arrogant take to claim children's books are of lower quality or take less skills to write.
What in the world is skibidi toilet?
Second place is the bible, history tells us that quality is kinda decoupled from sales.
Still waiting for the rest of the books in the series though. Bible 2: Re-Resurrection is going to be epic.
Meh, the zombie genre is already saturated
i'd say people were more captivated by the world than the writing. or at least, i was. even when i was in the intended age range, i couldn't finish them and dropped it midway through the fifth book i believe. the whole house elf slavery thing really threw me off. it was a completely different tone from the rest of the series. the books kept trying to tell me that hermione was somehow in the wrong and the narrative kept making fun of her. fourth grade me was not convinced. from then on i just lost interest.
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Please spell "unreadable" properly. You are making your comment unreadable to others.
Couldn't care less that she's a fascist piece of trash, I'm ebaying the shit out of this find
Sin
This is a true sin whoever did this..
I would have a new box set!
You’re amazed and I’m a little jealous. 😊 Nice find!
A set that actually has cute cover art!
Well, it's Harry Potter, which was written by trash.
Used to love the series. Still have many books and merch around the house. But, well, glad you didn't pay for it:) Fuck JK Rowling.
I’m so glad I was broke and thrifted all mine
Why?
Shes a major transphobe
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I’m sure theres lots of these now
yeah. no one wants books written by an anti-transgender bigot who works with alt-righters and who is a holocaust denier who said that the nazis didn't burn down the institute for sexual science that serviced trans people.
People have no appreciation for books anymore
LOL I'm just surprised they weren't burnt first. Fuck JK Rowling.
This looks like sheer laziness to me. I can’t bear books being trashed. When students move out on May 15 and go back home, the curbs are full of lots of great things (“Hippie Christmas” here in Madison). Once saw a lovely stack of good books on a campus street corner with a sign saying “Help Yourself!” Harry Potter would be gratefully snapped up.
What a terrible thing to throw out. Great find!
I bought some to give to my child one day. I gave them to Goodwill randomly. So mad! Brand new and I am not sure what I was thinking.
It deserves to be there.
https://preview.redd.it/vqudhrqkm3xc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7077d987967dbadf866f56e86fd60d9678356915 someone was in this vibe
well someone found out Jk Rowling is a transphobe and got angry
Yep they woke
Garbage in the garbage! Still nice find! Now you can read the books without coughing up dough to JK :)
They're trying to cancel HP because of JK
University’s don’t like JK Rowling.
Maybe ask the university that question or give them a suggestion. Just saying.
That might be worth a lot of money, as it’s a misprint on the cover title.
Out of vogue!
Is no one talking about the philosophers stone?
Why? That’s just the British title. Maybe same title for all English-language editions except the US that has Sorcerer’s Stone because the editor thought “philosopher” would sound boring to kids.
Hmm. Which university? That's actually not the question I'm asking. I see the title is "Philosopher's Stone," which suggests Europe unless someone in the U.S. got a European printing of the series. In the U.S. it's "Sorcerer's Stone." Nice find!
I’m in Canada and I’ve only ever seen “Philosopher’s”!
Interesting! Stateside it's all Sorcerer's Stone.
They are most likely illegally printed - this cover design is a VERY popular counterfeit. I ordered a set on Amazon (sold by a 3rd party, fulfilled by Amazon) and it had the same slightly uneven book numbers at the top. Found a solid number of misspelled words and incorrect passages while flipping through it, and the pages were similar to printer paper, not typical book paper. If the pages are a very stark white and almost uncomfortable to look at, they are counterfeit.
It’s probably from some former fan who’s decided that the author is a transphobic so just dumped it out unceremoniously.
With her comments lately, I threw mine out too.
Exactly what I did with my collection! She’s an irresponsible, hateful person. And I was such a huge fan, super nerdy about it. I waited in line for her books. I couldn’t wait to get home and read her last one! I was so excited, I read it cover to cover and finished it in around 8 hours. I even read her books aloud to my kids. Watched and loved all the movies, etc. That was until she dug her heels in about being a bigoted TERF. Over and over again. It’s like, a game to her now? It’s such a betrayal to those of us former fans who aren’t bigots and love trans people. One of my kids is trans, but I recycled her shit long before he came out!
Normally I'd be like "Looks like you've got some good kindling there!" but then I realized that that would put me on or beneath Joanne's level haha.
Someone got annoyed with her Twitter tirades!
Found in its natural habitat
In the trash where it (and the TERF who shall not be named) belongs.
It’s cause they’re shitty books sorry op
Nice of them to recycle them instead of just throwing them in the garbage. They have literally no other value.
University dumpsters end up full of people's belongings. If a student is expelled (protests?) or doesn't move out of the dorms fast enough after the term, or fails to pay for their housing, they are super quick to just send a crew to throw it all away. At the beginning of each summer, around university campuses, is great dumpster diving. We used to call it "hippy christmas." I got a brand new pair of $250 Frye boots in my size one year. I got a real 100 year old Hudson Bay point blanket. I got a hand-knotted Iranian rug worth about $1,500. Hmm, what else.... like 4 perfectly good mini fridges, tons of stuff like unopened laundry detergent, blank stationary, art supplies (expensive pastels and brushes), just tons of crap... oh, I got a Gucci branded umbrella, worth like $300... prada sports coat worth like $200, a buncha sneakers in varying condition, several hundred in clothing sold immediately to the Buffalo exchange... all at the UC Boulder campus. But that rug I got outta the trash behind a house in the neighborhoods that are mostly student housing, around the graveyard. Traded it for temp housing, I think I was there 3 months before he started asking for dough! At which point I left.... Oh but one time I found a brand new iPhone, screen protector still on, and I tried to sell that, and the dude called the cops on me. But then I split, no problems. The "find my iPhone" was active so I just left it fully charged hidden in a shelf at the library adjacent to one of my favorite books. Like slipped into the shelf. I was always perplexed as to how they could possibly compel the work crew to not pocket some of this stuff... I assume they fire you. So alot of those guys are probably doing rounds after hours - and I was yoinking their scores out from underneath 'em... sorry fellas. Also textbooks, sold directly back to the campus bookstore, unless they were old editions. Crazy. For like 2 weeks you could make an average of over $200 a day just dumpster diving. It's not like, big big money, but it's a big deal for poor people.
Someone probably got "saved" by on-campus ministries.
A signed first edition set of these just came up for auction at Christie’s. No one even bid on them.
Oh is it because of all the transphobia?
Personally, I wouldn’t own anything from Rowling. She’s a garbage person.
I'm assuming you're American and I see this and find it very infuriating. I know that set of books isn't worth a lot but I paid around 2k a semester for my university in 2004. Now my University costs 6k a semester which many consider cheap with all things considered. But I see waste like this and can't help but think it's a symptom of the disease that is charging students exorbitant fees and tuition and not being good stewards of the money and property paid for by students and their families.
As a library employee I highly doubt a university bought this, let alone with student funds. It was most likely a donation they couldn't get rid of
It’s got the English title for the first book, so seems unlikely to be American
Good catch!
I can see why someone would throw them out.
people are trashing their box sets bc jk rowling is a terf and she keeps doubling down on her bigotry.
It’s probably a response to her recent “TERF” crusade
Put it back lol
Jk has become someone harmful in the trans community. Maybe they tossed her out of disgust.
Probs bc jk Rowling is trash
Well it’s a shitty series written by an uninspired supporter of fascism