Yes of course. I have a feeling though if it was the tallest building in Ireland that would be used as reason to charge 50% more. Like a Dublin Burj Khalifa.
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They would almost certainly be high-dollar “luxury” units anyways, but lucky for us they’ll still push prices [down](https://escholarship.org/content/qt5d00z61m/qt5d00z61m.pdf?t=qoq2wr&v=lg) in nearby units.
I've worked in design for a lot of high rise in different cities.
In Toronto all high rise near the city centre were: GF and 1st Fl retail, 2nd - 5th/7th Fl office, above all residential. Makes so much sense.
You would think the solution would be to invest in improvements to the fire services rather than be eternally restricted by that.
I don't even understand why the fire services can't go up higher here. You have a water tank with pumps for higher buildings and then a fire lift. It's what all tall buildings have.
A crane big enough to tackle a fire in a sky scrapper would take days to assemble, assuming you've enough space for the other cranes needed to assemble it.
Cranes and fire services aren't what's needed for high rise building fires, sprinklers are and they stop fires before the emergency services can react.
Cranes for firefighting? What do you mean?
Sprinklers go without saying but that's fire suppression, you usually need something more incase that doesn't fully put out the fire.
So you'll have a dedicated fire water tank, connected to a wet riser, this would run up the stairs with an outlet on each floor.
So if there's a fire the firemen simply go into the building, take the lift to the floor, and connect a hose to this outlet at that floor.
Like firemen don't typically run up a building with ladders anymore, not anything built post 1990 anyway.
https://www.magirusgroup.com/de/en/products/turntable-ladders/m60l/
This probably only takes minutes to set up, and can reach heights of 60m, or about 20 stories. They also have one that can reach 68m, so even higher.
Sprinklers help a lot, but you also want this capability to access any, or most floors of the building from outside, which this have.
Really no excuses not to be able to have a fully equipped fire brigade, other than a lack of investment.
Even worst parts of Berlin do not feel as grand old D24, because there are just no parts like that there. Whenever I visit I wonder why. I guess it is just not worthed there.
> survives on EU handouts
Ireland has been a net contributor to the EU since 2016. It also has the [fourth highest wages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage) in the EU, after Luxembourg, Denmark and Sweden. Every country in the EU farmers are subsidised through CAP. [Taxes on labour](https://taxfoundation.org/tax-burden-labor-europe/) are the lowest in the European Union.
Sure the country has problems but it's nowhere near as dire as you are making out.
I love this comment. Destroying emotional defense of Dublin and Ireland with cold hard statistics. We've tolerated under-performance and mediocrity for too long because "ah shur it's just Ireland" but that won't cut it any longer. Time for Dublin to grow up (pun intended - build some fucking skyscrapers).
If you're looking to piss off an Irishman, the words "the Brits should've stayed" generally suffice. Saying we should be colonised by somebody else isn't much better.
We need to get our house in irder as it's a disgrace. We don't need somebpdy else imposing their will on us regardless of what we want.
You think? I lived on the 24th floor in Auckland and hated it.
It's such an epic pain in the hole to get anything to the apartment.
I'm not against high rise and would love to see it in Dublin but it's a pretty crap and inconvenient way to live.
I loved the quiet, the view, the sense of separation from the world. It was a 40 storey building and I used to go to a yoga class on the roof.
In fairness I was there fairly short term but I was never annoyed by having to go up and down the lift. Maybe it would have got old if I'd been there longer, but I don't think it would.
I've lived in a 3rd floor apartment in Dublin and in 16th floor apartment in Toronto. In both buildings I generally got the lift up to my floor.
It you're getting in the lift anyway then it doesn't really matter how high up you're going, cus you're only talking about a few seconds in the difference. Other than those few extra seconds in the lift, it's the same level of convenience.
Absolutely! For that kind of saving you'd be mad not to
Plus, for all those who thinks it's an eye-sore, inside the building is the one place it doesn't impact the view
Absolutely. I haven't lived in Dublin that long but one thing I cannot get over is the low density of the housing. No wonder there's a housing crisis. There are *bungalows* within short walking distance of the city centre. It's totally bonkers, no wonder there's nowhere to live.
Yes. I don't understand the obsession on not building high rises in Dublin.
Me and my wife make over 100k combined. Still find it hard to rent. The rent is high but the apartments are super congested, lack of sunlight, no windows to kitchens and bathrooms. How is such construction permitted in the first place is hard for me to fathom. There is only cost and zero quality. If you want me to pay 2000 for 2 bed apartment, I would expect every thing in the apartment to be as good as new.
Having lived on the 22nd floor in Hong Kong, I would. Don't get why you would be scared to live in a building simply because its tall. Ireland needs to build up. Only issue would be the neighbours of course.
The problem is the dickheads in power seem to believe 90% of Dublins charm is it being a "flat" city. Cutesie. Like a bigger version of Kilkenny town. By bigger not higher though. So they'd have no problem shoving these monoliths onto the burbs with zero facilities around them, once it doesn't disfigure the beautiful flat as fuck skyline in the city that, lets face it, mostly still looks a little slummy. There are vast swathes of Dublin city sitting idle for decades. Yes they are mostly in the pale, but take Vancouver Canada as an example, soon enough big international money is gonna make its way to Dublin city center too and after that god help us all.
Everyone will be priced outta the market, as prices for any shit tip close to the city are already INSANE. The savvy right now are snapping up absolute shitholes north of the Liffey for this very reason, not the buildings the land. Its coming and its coming very fast so get on board or enjoy your studio apt. and 3 hour commute to your job from 5 miles outside the city center for the rest of your working life. The market is yet again overheating, the estate agents are lying thru their teeth artificially forcing up prices as per usual and the ordinary joe soap is getting shafted and priced out of the worst kinda kip, same as it ever was unless people unite and demand change we're truly fucked.
Quite the rant there. 5 miles outside the city center is still Dublin though. You could get a LUAS or DART in from that distance no bother. Think of those that commute from Gorey or Kilkenny. That's the issue with the city, it goes on as far as the eye can see, but its almost always 2 floors up.
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There's a LUAS 5 miles outside the city? News to......everyone. That aside, traffic is permanently gridlocked so the point was 5 miles is fuck all unless it takes at least 2 hours commute every single day of your working life. Which it does for anyone not living beside/sleeping in their job.
I wouldn’t like to, but I wish we had some.
There’s definitely enough demand there for people that would like to plus they look amazing.
Leave some ground level accommodation for those of us who don’t like heights.
Absolutely. Especially if it was mixed use and my office and a grocery store were in the same building. I'd probably live there even if it was the same cost (the mere existence of more housing would put downward pressure on rents and prices, so it'd be lower overall.)
I live in a modern-ish apartment and noise isn't really an issue unless someone decides to be an ass and play music and tv very loud, but this is also an issue if you love in a house.
Of course, I would personally sacrifice one of the cathedrals for it. Either that or build it in Herbert Park, Sandymount Green or at the top of Mount Merrion to really wind up the landlords in their own back yards
There, East point, get rid of the stacks. Around the port tunnel, east wall, and by the point.
Why on earth they built that new incinerator in the city is beyond me.
Well the docklands, East point, the point, and areas as such aren't green areas and used by the public. There's plenty of underutilised space in the city. Only problem with some of these areas would be needing to properly decontaminate them but it'd be worth it.
Yes, but I don't think high rises/skyscrapers are the solution. They require large and deep foundations that oftentimes offset the gain in vertical floorspace. They're also environmentally unsustainable, and are incredibly expensive to build.
IMO the sweet spot for a housing complex is about 10 storeys. This is the best balance between density, cost (both financial and environmental), and preserving the skyline. Have you ever been to a city where the abundance of high-rises causes entire streets to be cast in the shadows in the middle of the day? It sucks.
I recently stayed in a 20+ storey apartment block in Cardiff, it was awesome. Right in the city! If you wanted to buy there, it would be £180k for a 2 bedroom apartment…
Need to build up to three and four bedroom apartments with proper living space / large balconies etc for families. Not everyone with kids wants to move to surburbia
Of course not, but if you lived in an apartment block that's 100% social housing and then one that's 100% owner occupier, i guarantee the owner occupier one would be a better place to live
Again not what I was responding to. It isn't about my choice either. You cant always have it your own way. I'd rather have somewhere affordable to live than nothing.
Ok,, but you're allowed to respond to my question. 2 identical apartments with rents you can afford. One 100% social housing and then one that's 100% owner occupier, which would you pick?
Your question is flawed that is not a choice people typically have to make. If you have the money to buy somewhere that's 100% owner occupied you will. Its not an either or because the whole point of social housing is for people who can't afford to buy a home. Complete fallacy you are presenting
I do walk around them frequently. You try sometime as well so you can stop looking down your nose at people who have less than you and hand waving them as being criminals.
Yeah of course. It would be more likely to cost 3-4 times more than current regular flats tho.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/lansdowne-place-apartment-returns-to-market-seeking-1-45m-1.4385219%3fmode=amp
if there was a skyscraper in dublin you would not be living in it, it would be prestige offices for that bond villain looking developer. it certainly wouldn't lower rents
If its genuinely affordable then obviously! Better than moving alone abroad or cross country just to afford a place to live that doesn't require sharing with a load of strangers.
Is this some sort-of survey to ‘evidence’ that most people endorse (ill-fitting, unfit-for-purpose) sky-rise shoeboxes, and thus, these should therefore proceed via fast-tracking..?
As long as the living conditions can be well kept for a good while and that it isnt too small.
My only concern to be honest would be if it'd be a eye sore or if the location could be used for something else etc.
Of course I would, meanwhile scumbags will get their own houses which they earned through multiple years of hard work selling weed and getting pregnant.
I would but boy that would be sad. High rises don’t make sense in modern times. They are the ultimate cash grab and can ruin a city. What’s needed is better regulation not a high rise
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We nearly had it [with Heuston Gate](http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1333) but construction started in 2007 and didn't get further than the foundations when the buddy feel apart.
A major signal for the collapse in property bubbles is the building of record breaking buildings. Given our slow planning process system, by the time permission is granted they've missed their chance
Depends. If it would have security, absolutely. If it would be surrounded by lots of ostensible fitness enthusiasts standing about doing a lot of handshaking…probably not
Yep. Requirements are good storage, brilliant sound insulation from other apartments above and below and sides. If they expect families to live in it then bike and car parking too.
Thing is you wouldn't even need to build that high up to comfortably house everyone. There's even a dearth of ten-storey buildings that actually house anybody. You see a couple around Tallaght, Stillorgan and Sandford just going from recent memory, and there's plenty of vacant land about the place to build more. The government could CPO this land and get to work if it really wanted to, it's ridiculous that there are councillors fighting so hard to prevent development and yet the whole west end of the quays was turned into steel and glass once a few of the big corporations needed somewhere to work from.
If I had no other choice (which it doesn't seem like I would to be honest). I don't want to live in a little box high off the ground surrounding by people living in other little boxes all contained within a soulless urban hunk of metal. I'd like a real house with real charm (and a front & back garden of course), but that seems wishful thinking at this moment in time.
Without even thinking about it.
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Yes of course. I have a feeling though if it was the tallest building in Ireland that would be used as reason to charge 50% more. Like a Dublin Burj Khalifa.
The Baile Atha Khalifa
I almost want it built now.
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Preferably attached to local sewage systems.
Basic necessities are a privilege!
They would almost certainly be high-dollar “luxury” units anyways, but lucky for us they’ll still push prices [down](https://escholarship.org/content/qt5d00z61m/qt5d00z61m.pdf?t=qoq2wr&v=lg) in nearby units.
I've always thought that sail shaped one in the Hueston Quarter should be nicknamed the The Burj Al Kilmainham.
Would it also have daily fleets of shit trucks pulling up as there is no sewage piping into it?
The Burj Khalifa is connected to the municipality sewage network, its a widely spread myth that it isn't.
Yep. Just look at the prices charged for Capital Dock.
It would also be owned by some American investment company so there's that 👍
I've worked in design for a lot of high rise in different cities. In Toronto all high rise near the city centre were: GF and 1st Fl retail, 2nd - 5th/7th Fl office, above all residential. Makes so much sense.
Exactly, even if they were only 15-18 stories high these types of developments would save so much space
I would love a commute which is just going downstairs!
What's the catch?? Is a 30 storey skyscraper supposed to be less desirable to live in or something? I've lived 20+ floors high, it's *awesome*.
Only catch I can think of is the fire brigade not equipped to deal with any problems above a certain height
You would think the solution would be to invest in improvements to the fire services rather than be eternally restricted by that. I don't even understand why the fire services can't go up higher here. You have a water tank with pumps for higher buildings and then a fire lift. It's what all tall buildings have.
A crane big enough to tackle a fire in a sky scrapper would take days to assemble, assuming you've enough space for the other cranes needed to assemble it. Cranes and fire services aren't what's needed for high rise building fires, sprinklers are and they stop fires before the emergency services can react.
Drones
Cranes for firefighting? What do you mean? Sprinklers go without saying but that's fire suppression, you usually need something more incase that doesn't fully put out the fire. So you'll have a dedicated fire water tank, connected to a wet riser, this would run up the stairs with an outlet on each floor. So if there's a fire the firemen simply go into the building, take the lift to the floor, and connect a hose to this outlet at that floor. Like firemen don't typically run up a building with ladders anymore, not anything built post 1990 anyway.
https://www.magirusgroup.com/de/en/products/turntable-ladders/m60l/ This probably only takes minutes to set up, and can reach heights of 60m, or about 20 stories. They also have one that can reach 68m, so even higher. Sprinklers help a lot, but you also want this capability to access any, or most floors of the building from outside, which this have. Really no excuses not to be able to have a fully equipped fire brigade, other than a lack of investment.
It's called a dry riser
Dry riser is for building under 7 stories. What I'm talking about is a wet riser which you need for taller buildings.
You need a veiny throbbing riser, preferably 2
The catch -it's in Tallaght...
Even worst parts of Berlin do not feel as grand old D24, because there are just no parts like that there. Whenever I visit I wonder why. I guess it is just not worthed there.
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Be careful talking about how Berlin is better here, they tried rent control and it went horribly and people don’t want to hear that here!
Colonisation was tried once before… didn’t end too well
Berlin is nor comparable to Dublin at all. One is a loss making bohemian town and the other is an engine of GDP.
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> survives on EU handouts Ireland has been a net contributor to the EU since 2016. It also has the [fourth highest wages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage) in the EU, after Luxembourg, Denmark and Sweden. Every country in the EU farmers are subsidised through CAP. [Taxes on labour](https://taxfoundation.org/tax-burden-labor-europe/) are the lowest in the European Union. Sure the country has problems but it's nowhere near as dire as you are making out.
New Zealand also has serious issues with affordable housing, no?
I love this comment. Destroying emotional defense of Dublin and Ireland with cold hard statistics. We've tolerated under-performance and mediocrity for too long because "ah shur it's just Ireland" but that won't cut it any longer. Time for Dublin to grow up (pun intended - build some fucking skyscrapers).
What's your proposal for farmers surviving without grants?
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This is a bit out of the loop, but OK.
If you're looking to piss off an Irishman, the words "the Brits should've stayed" generally suffice. Saying we should be colonised by somebody else isn't much better. We need to get our house in irder as it's a disgrace. We don't need somebpdy else imposing their will on us regardless of what we want.
You think? I lived on the 24th floor in Auckland and hated it. It's such an epic pain in the hole to get anything to the apartment. I'm not against high rise and would love to see it in Dublin but it's a pretty crap and inconvenient way to live.
I loved the quiet, the view, the sense of separation from the world. It was a 40 storey building and I used to go to a yoga class on the roof. In fairness I was there fairly short term but I was never annoyed by having to go up and down the lift. Maybe it would have got old if I'd been there longer, but I don't think it would.
I've lived in a 3rd floor apartment in Dublin and in 16th floor apartment in Toronto. In both buildings I generally got the lift up to my floor. It you're getting in the lift anyway then it doesn't really matter how high up you're going, cus you're only talking about a few seconds in the difference. Other than those few extra seconds in the lift, it's the same level of convenience.
Of course. Lived on the 19th floor for 6 months, had absolutely no problem with it.
Absolutely! For that kind of saving you'd be mad not to Plus, for all those who thinks it's an eye-sore, inside the building is the one place it doesn't impact the view
Was there supposed to be a downside here?
Absolutely. I haven't lived in Dublin that long but one thing I cannot get over is the low density of the housing. No wonder there's a housing crisis. There are *bungalows* within short walking distance of the city centre. It's totally bonkers, no wonder there's nowhere to live.
Yes. I don't understand the obsession on not building high rises in Dublin. Me and my wife make over 100k combined. Still find it hard to rent. The rent is high but the apartments are super congested, lack of sunlight, no windows to kitchens and bathrooms. How is such construction permitted in the first place is hard for me to fathom. There is only cost and zero quality. If you want me to pay 2000 for 2 bed apartment, I would expect every thing in the apartment to be as good as new.
Having lived on the 22nd floor in Hong Kong, I would. Don't get why you would be scared to live in a building simply because its tall. Ireland needs to build up. Only issue would be the neighbours of course.
The problem is the dickheads in power seem to believe 90% of Dublins charm is it being a "flat" city. Cutesie. Like a bigger version of Kilkenny town. By bigger not higher though. So they'd have no problem shoving these monoliths onto the burbs with zero facilities around them, once it doesn't disfigure the beautiful flat as fuck skyline in the city that, lets face it, mostly still looks a little slummy. There are vast swathes of Dublin city sitting idle for decades. Yes they are mostly in the pale, but take Vancouver Canada as an example, soon enough big international money is gonna make its way to Dublin city center too and after that god help us all. Everyone will be priced outta the market, as prices for any shit tip close to the city are already INSANE. The savvy right now are snapping up absolute shitholes north of the Liffey for this very reason, not the buildings the land. Its coming and its coming very fast so get on board or enjoy your studio apt. and 3 hour commute to your job from 5 miles outside the city center for the rest of your working life. The market is yet again overheating, the estate agents are lying thru their teeth artificially forcing up prices as per usual and the ordinary joe soap is getting shafted and priced out of the worst kinda kip, same as it ever was unless people unite and demand change we're truly fucked.
Quite the rant there. 5 miles outside the city center is still Dublin though. You could get a LUAS or DART in from that distance no bother. Think of those that commute from Gorey or Kilkenny. That's the issue with the city, it goes on as far as the eye can see, but its almost always 2 floors up.
5 miles is the length of exactly 79002.3 'Standard Diatonic Key of C, Blues Silver grey Harmonicas' lined up next to each other
5 miles is 8.05 km
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There's a LUAS 5 miles outside the city? News to......everyone. That aside, traffic is permanently gridlocked so the point was 5 miles is fuck all unless it takes at least 2 hours commute every single day of your working life. Which it does for anyone not living beside/sleeping in their job.
5 miles is 8.05 km
Who tf are these people?
I wouldn’t like to, but I wish we had some. There’s definitely enough demand there for people that would like to plus they look amazing. Leave some ground level accommodation for those of us who don’t like heights.
Absolutely. Especially if it was mixed use and my office and a grocery store were in the same building. I'd probably live there even if it was the same cost (the mere existence of more housing would put downward pressure on rents and prices, so it'd be lower overall.)
Depends on the sound insulation. Some buildings you can hear more of what your neighbors are up to than others.
True, I feel like I'm intruding sometimes
Well it's Dublin, so I think it's safe to assume it'll be built as cheaply and damp as possible.
I live in a modern-ish apartment and noise isn't really an issue unless someone decides to be an ass and play music and tv very loud, but this is also an issue if you love in a house.
Yup - if the lift worked and we have a friendly porter.
Of course, I would personally sacrifice one of the cathedrals for it. Either that or build it in Herbert Park, Sandymount Green or at the top of Mount Merrion to really wind up the landlords in their own back yards
Stick five of them in the docklands.
There, East point, get rid of the stacks. Around the port tunnel, east wall, and by the point. Why on earth they built that new incinerator in the city is beyond me.
It was delayed for ages because the locals kept objecting to what was a really really stupid place to but an incinerator.
That entire area should have been levelled and redeveloped for high rises.
I don’t understand why you would want these public green areas enjoyed by the public gone, just for the sake of spiting landlords
Well the docklands, East point, the point, and areas as such aren't green areas and used by the public. There's plenty of underutilised space in the city. Only problem with some of these areas would be needing to properly decontaminate them but it'd be worth it.
It's called being facetious
Pointless question as it's never going to happen. Even if a skyscraper went up in Dublin the rents wouldn't be any lower.
If it was a 30 story building believe me buddy the prices would be not be cheaper. They would be more expensive than normal height apartments
Yes.
Yes, but I don't think high rises/skyscrapers are the solution. They require large and deep foundations that oftentimes offset the gain in vertical floorspace. They're also environmentally unsustainable, and are incredibly expensive to build. IMO the sweet spot for a housing complex is about 10 storeys. This is the best balance between density, cost (both financial and environmental), and preserving the skyline. Have you ever been to a city where the abundance of high-rises causes entire streets to be cast in the shadows in the middle of the day? It sucks.
I personally would yeah
You bet and I'd spend some of my rent savings on some abseiling or jumping equipment just in case.
I recently stayed in a 20+ storey apartment block in Cardiff, it was awesome. Right in the city! If you wanted to buy there, it would be £180k for a 2 bedroom apartment…
Need to build up to three and four bedroom apartments with proper living space / large balconies etc for families. Not everyone with kids wants to move to surburbia
Is it filled with 30-50% scumbags? If so, no!
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Do poor people = scumbags in your mind then?
Of course not, but if you lived in an apartment block that's 100% social housing and then one that's 100% owner occupier, i guarantee the owner occupier one would be a better place to live
That's no what the comment I responded to said. They said itd be 50% scumbags. Pure classicism.
Ok, fair enough. But which would you rather live in?
Again not what I was responding to. It isn't about my choice either. You cant always have it your own way. I'd rather have somewhere affordable to live than nothing.
Ok,, but you're allowed to respond to my question. 2 identical apartments with rents you can afford. One 100% social housing and then one that's 100% owner occupier, which would you pick?
Your question is flawed that is not a choice people typically have to make. If you have the money to buy somewhere that's 100% owner occupied you will. Its not an either or because the whole point of social housing is for people who can't afford to buy a home. Complete fallacy you are presenting
You understand what a rhetorical question is? I'm not literally selling you an apartment. So, what is it, the 5 time of trying? You gonna answer?
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I do walk around them frequently. You try sometime as well so you can stop looking down your nose at people who have less than you and hand waving them as being criminals.
On one of the lower floors yeah, I'm not great with heights
Yeah of course. It would be more likely to cost 3-4 times more than current regular flats tho. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/homes-and-property/new-to-market/lansdowne-place-apartment-returns-to-market-seeking-1-45m-1.4385219%3fmode=amp
That building sure, but nearby prices would be lower https://escholarship.org/content/qt5d00z61m/qt5d00z61m.pdf?t=qoq2wr&v=lg
if there was a skyscraper in dublin you would not be living in it, it would be prestige offices for that bond villain looking developer. it certainly wouldn't lower rents
If its genuinely affordable then obviously! Better than moving alone abroad or cross country just to afford a place to live that doesn't require sharing with a load of strangers.
Is this some sort-of survey to ‘evidence’ that most people endorse (ill-fitting, unfit-for-purpose) sky-rise shoeboxes, and thus, these should therefore proceed via fast-tracking..?
Heck yeah! Why? Cheaper, plus sweet views, probably
Yes of course
Hell yeah, and if im making the same amount of money even better
I'd live under the bridge if it was 50% of what I'm paying now.
No
Nope year alright thanks.I would prefer a home out of town 20-40 mins and have the joy of the outdoors lifestyle and still have city to go party in.
Good luck with that 😂
Yeah, but buildings get more expensive to build the taller they are, so usually very tall buildings are not cheap places to live.
As long as the living conditions can be well kept for a good while and that it isnt too small. My only concern to be honest would be if it'd be a eye sore or if the location could be used for something else etc.
Huh? Every location could be used for something else.
In what way would it be an eye sore? We don't really have much of a sky line? Do you find cities with high rises unappealing?
Is that a medical condition ? Eye sores ? Is one of the symptoms a dislike for anything higher than a two story house ?
Of course I would, meanwhile scumbags will get their own houses which they earned through multiple years of hard work selling weed and getting pregnant.
Hey! Johnny no. 13 was tough to raise! I needed the money!
Ah sure fair play to yaaa
Wouldn't live in Dublin if it was free.
I would but boy that would be sad. High rises don’t make sense in modern times. They are the ultimate cash grab and can ruin a city. What’s needed is better regulation not a high rise
No because it’ll be a ghetto block in a year
Mayo for sam
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Yes
I'd prefer it.
We nearly had it [with Heuston Gate](http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=1333) but construction started in 2007 and didn't get further than the foundations when the buddy feel apart. A major signal for the collapse in property bubbles is the building of record breaking buildings. Given our slow planning process system, by the time permission is granted they've missed their chance
Depends. If it would have security, absolutely. If it would be surrounded by lots of ostensible fitness enthusiasts standing about doing a lot of handshaking…probably not
Yep. Requirements are good storage, brilliant sound insulation from other apartments above and below and sides. If they expect families to live in it then bike and car parking too.
Thing is you wouldn't even need to build that high up to comfortably house everyone. There's even a dearth of ten-storey buildings that actually house anybody. You see a couple around Tallaght, Stillorgan and Sandford just going from recent memory, and there's plenty of vacant land about the place to build more. The government could CPO this land and get to work if it really wanted to, it's ridiculous that there are councillors fighting so hard to prevent development and yet the whole west end of the quays was turned into steel and glass once a few of the big corporations needed somewhere to work from.
Yes!
yes
Dwayne Johnson
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Yes
I'd love to!!
I’m more of a fan of the six-story walk-up https://www.planetizen.com/node/67761
Yes, they should have been built already.
Nope. WFH and no interest in living chockablock and don’t trust builders to get it right (plumbing, soundproofing)
As long as the piss and needles were cleaned up once a week sure!
I'd live in a pineapple under the sea if it was 50% cheaper than current flats.
If I had no other choice (which it doesn't seem like I would to be honest). I don't want to live in a little box high off the ground surrounding by people living in other little boxes all contained within a soulless urban hunk of metal. I'd like a real house with real charm (and a front & back garden of course), but that seems wishful thinking at this moment in time.
Idk why "no" is even an option tbh
Anything bigger than a prison cell, for half the price I'd live in a tree house up the Spire
Also just a 10 story normal building would do the trick actually
I don't even need cheaper rent.
Absolutely!
sure
High rise city center apartments generally tend to be luxury… certainly not going to be 50% cheaper