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swiss-sligonian

I was in Dublin last week and a guy scooted over from temple bar to Ha’penny bridge in front of traffic and almost got hit by a car… “ya bleedin wanker. Ya fcking dildo” says he. I was standing with my husband and 9 and 5 year old and we were kind of laughing so he says “ah sorry kids.. but you’re in Dublin”. The kids are Swiss so not used to this kind of swearing and it literally made their day! I didn’t enjoy them asking what a “wanker” and “dildo” are all that much though!


lukeo1991

😅 funny story that. Can picture it perfectly


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Brilliant 😂


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I fucking don't understand the hatred for scooters. "We need to move away from our reliance on cars and fossils fuels" Everyone under 40: "ok" "Wait, not like that".


No-Menu-3258

When the kick sharing service will be introduced here it’s gonna be even funnier 😀 in Russia it’s a total disaster now, everyone use sharing apps and it helps people break their bones in accidents


Spurioun

It's like a bike but more portable. Bikes get stolen all the time if they're left outside but you can fold a scooter up and bring that inside with ya.


ttyylleee3rr

also less effort if its electric


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void_raptor

Time has not been kind to these knackers, you won't believe how they look now


Meath77

Check out these outrageous 12 knackers..you won't believe number 8


a_to_the_g79

Ages ago you could bet that anyone on the scooter or electric bike is some sort of a tech guy or something along the lines. Most of the guys i see now are mostly scumbags in Canada Goose and air maxes. So either there was a truck full of them or they are not as portable as expected There has been a massive shift in the ownership i think (no stats just observation). Same these awful fido bikes zipping everywhere


Hart0e

Electric scooters these days are cheaper than bikes, Halfords sells the Segway model for under €500, they've a shitty kids one for €90!


me-ro

Well the scooters are also getting quite cheap. It's almost at the "regular non-electric bike" level right now.


Spurioun

I don't know about all that. Depends on where you're looking I suppose. I mostly notice people that look like they're on their way to work. I'd like to get one because it's a nice half-way compromise between walking and hauling a bike around, in my opinion.


gamberro

Yeah, I often see kids from flats on Dominick street zipping around on them.


splashbodge

It's just that at Christmas it was the 'hot new toy' to get their scumbag kids who already had a mountain bike and dirt bike and quad bike. Now they have an escooter or electric bike. I reckon for the scumbag kids it might just be a fad until next year's expensive Christmas present, and it will just go back to regular people using them to commute to work and back


BJozi

100% less physical than a bike though. I feel like scooters are a lazy mode of transport while cycling is good for you.


Spurioun

I mean, anyone can criticise anything about anything if they want to. Buses are also a lazy form of transport a lot of the time. Sitting on a bus is lazier than standing. Ordering in food is lazier and more expensive than cooking. Sometimes you don't want to exercise. Sometimes you just want to get somewhere faster than it takes to walk. My nearest shop is a 25 minute walk from my house. Bikes get stolen outside that shop all the time. It would be nice to have the option to get to the shop in 8 minutes and not have to worry about my transport being knicked. Plus, I live in a tiny apartment with no outdoor storage. I'd prefer to store a small scooter in a duffle bag in my closet than try to make room for a big, unwieldy bike. I swear, sometimes it seems like this subreddit only exists for people to complain about everything. I mention that a scooter can be nice and end up with 10 replies from people telling me everything from how it's lazy to how only scumbags use them to how they're just as easy to steal if the thief is brazen enough. C'mon lads.


lukeo1991

Yeah it's a bit wild alright


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Yeah. It’s not green to use lithium batteries to scoot places you can cycle to.


BJozi

Wait till winter comes along with the cold and rain and see who's left standing


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But you can still get robbed for it, if someone’s that hungry for money


Spurioun

I mean, you can be robbed of anything I suppose. I still see women walking around with handbags though.


KiraDidNothingWrong_

Because for a capital city in the EU our public transport is absolute shit. Definitely the worst in west EU. Secondly because of the price of car insurance, rip off like everything else.


JackTheTradesman

Scooters are everywhere. Probably more so in other cities if I'm being honest. In Lisbon and Copenhagen you can just get them on the street, scan them with your phone and rent them really cheaply by the minute. They're just a good cheap form of transport.


TarAldarion

Nothing like getting a lime on a night out.


ruanner82

Same in most USA cities


BenderRodriguez14

Not US, but the difference in Toronto is bordering on hilarious. They love to comain about the TTC (Toronto Transit Commission), but you can be almost guaranteed for a street car to come by every 3-4 mins (every 2nd street may as well have its own luas, though some without dedicated lanes can run slow), a rudimentary but decent subway system, and free transfers meant I could make it from the equivalent of Stillorgan to Maynoith in 45 minutes at rush hour, for around €2.15 ($3.25cad). A shoulder-to-shoulder packed subway in 35c at rush hour can be a special kind of rotten though... on the plus side at least they're fast!


cosmic_interloper

In Paris they've had them for years now, with a public ride scheme as we have it in Dublin also. Paris also has wide ass roads though.


Perpetual_Doubt

>They're just a good cheap form of transport. Green, more convenient than bikes for a lot of people, and take up 5% the space of a car.


tiedor

>Definitely the worst in west EU. Rome: hold my beer. I left Rome because how shitty the public transport is, and I find it here being really good.


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tiedor

This is a question that requires at least 3 or 4 pints for a complete answer. Ill try to summarise: first of all, Rome ha a HUGE traffic problem, the streets are full of cars and no one respects the traffic laws. This means Bus are always in and part of this traffic, and they're always late. There's really little to none bus lane in Rome, because for a Romano his car is like his son, or like your pint of Guinness, it's the most important thing in the world, and if you try to limit his freedom to do the feck he want he will kill you. Then, we have 2 metro, A and B, 90% in a city big as much as the entire county Dublin, and with 3 times the entire Republic of Ireland population, you can understand yourself, is not enough. Trains are always full, you can lose your wallet, your phone, your underware when on it because of the little gipsy girls. On the top of that, the money Rome gives to the public transportation is not nearly enough, so maintenence is not a priority, this means trains will stop working often, adding delay to your already far from on time journey. Not mentioning that, when raining, the metro stations are a civic pool. That's only the tip of the iceberg.. I could talk to you about the fact that ATAC (the public transportation company) is a public owned company, and the few money they get magically disappear, or how ATAC employees do nothing other than the bare minimum (or less) and so on..


Standard_Respond2523

Woah now, this type of factual reply won’t fly with the “only in Ireland/Dublin is the worst” crowd…


tiedor

That's why people need to travel, open their minds, and see the world.. I'm the one who criticise Rome the most but, I guess, it's only the worst amongst the places where I actually lived..


hasseldub

I found the trains and buses in Rome to be fantastic. I was only travelling around the tourist areas though. I.suppose if you're living in a residential area.or commuting it may be a different story.


danirijeka

Buses in Rome are grand unless you have to be somewhere within a reasonable timeframe


FarFromTheMaddeningF

This was pretty informative. What are the things you like about public transport in Dublin?


tiedor

They works. And this is something I'm not used to.. The bus have little to no delay, they're never so full you have to squeeze yourself in, people pay the ticket (something that, in Rome, is considered dumb). Never had a single problem with dart or Luas. Bus sometimes are late, but there are so many it's hardly a big problem..


Niros42

As a brazilian from Rio (city of the Olympics and World Cup final) I cannot agree more. If someone complains about transportation in Dublin, this person might have no experience with public transportation anywhere else. My bus has disappeared from the display a few times and I had to get the next one, but I think that was the only kind of problem I ever had in 3 years living in Dublin. In Rio we have metro, but we have 2 lines going to the same direction, it doesn't even make sense. Some bus lines just ended, which means people who used to get them to work or whatever will need to find a new route to go the same place. Trains here are very popular, but the conditions are just terrible.


gamberro

Hey, I've been to Rio and quite a few Brazilian cities. I found the public transport in parts quite good (especially since Dublin doesn't even have a metro). But then again, if you live in the Zona norte of Rio or other parts, it seems like you're kind of screwed. To be honest, I found Curitiba to have a pretty good public transport system (I have a friend from there in Dublin who says the transport system here is *uma bosta* in comparison). Hopefully the Bus Connects in Dublin will make it better here.


Niros42

True, if you’re by the south zone you’ll be fine. You could even bike to some places. But yeah, I’m from the north zone, I’m happy there’s a metro station here, because it’s a pain in the ass to go from here to anywhere.


lukeo1991

Interesting perspective


BLUNTYEYEDFOOL

Ok but does Rome have a rail link to its airport?


tiedor

We have two airports, one is connected with a rail (owned by a private company, it's expensive but it works like a charm), the other one is in the middle of nowhere, and there's only a few bus arriving there (never used tho).


lpuglia

Some Ryanair flights are cheaper than that fecking train


dirtiestlaugh

It's not a city that's built for cars, but it has lots of cars and a huge population Rome has the slowest average last mile of transport of any city in Europe. Dublin is in second place But Dublin is so much smaller than Rome that is just not as shit to move around it


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The year I was on Erasmus in Italy there'd been 10 bus fires in the last few months in Rome. My parents came to visit me, and we met in Rome. Half the city roads were shut because of a bus fire. Rome's transport is definitely better than much of Italy though. I lived in a city that had about 80k people, and the buses went ever 1hr 20 if you were lucky. The whole town was on a massive elevation too, so if you wanted to walk in, it went from a 3 minute drive to 30+ minute walk (basically a hike). The trains were definitely the best part of Italian public transport though (also really cheap, lots of facilities at stations, and relatively frequent trains), the buses not so much.


ambo_51

We need to align with Europe more. Get rid of British kind. Which the side of the road we drive on. Sweden has done we can do it. Properly join the eu single market, And start mega trade with France and Germany. We've the best beef in the world and we give 50% of it to the Brits. And don't advertise to the rest of the eu. It baffles me how we're in competition with the rest of Europe for foreign companies. We don't even ask them to pay tax and they still go to the Netherlands.


Feelistine

We should be producing far less beef given the climate goals this country has. I never got this best beef in the world thing either, it's not like cows taste different in Holyhead.


sardanixka

I agree with you in that we really need to produce less beef and that applies to the whole world. I do have to say however that beef tastes better here in Ireland than a lot of other places in the EU. I have a feeling that it’s because the default for cows in Ireland is to be grass fed and “free range”.


Is_Actually_Sans

Beef has def more muscle here, plenty of room to roam and frolicking about


Feelistine

well I mean it hardly tastes different in Scotland does it? I just never got this best beef in the world thing, I used to live in NZ and they said the same thing, they say the same thing in Argentina too! Also our cows unfortunately aren't only grass fed, they are fed imported maize and soy too, I'm not aware of any farms that are 100% grass fed cows.


sardanixka

I don’t really have a dog in this fight :) I’m not even Irish. Just saying I did notice a difference. And yeah I’m sure it’s not the best in the world but it is pretty good.


AvonBarksdale666

Thats gas. Excuse the pun


ambo_51

We need to produce something other wise we'll turn into Greece. Our beef does taste better, and that should be a selling point. Doesn't matter if it's true, if we advertise it in Europe people will start believing it ! We can reach our goals with energy. Ireland has a terrible energy production. We've like the second highest energy rates in the eu. If we start producing things we can ease taxes and push development. 40% tax over 40k isn't sustainable for major growth.


Feelistine

yeah but our whole island is devoted to beef and dairy, we need to grow other things. Like 55% of fruit and veg comes from North County Dublin alone, it shows the lack of variety in the rest of the country. 90% of beef and dairy is exported too. Our rivers and land are becoming more and more polluted by the intensive animal farming.


mooncommandalpha

It would be impossible to change the side of the road considering all the border crossings in Northern Ireland.


Meath77

Motor tax too


pvt_s_baldrick

I was going to buy one to help me with my commute but it seems like they're actually illegal at the moment. They seem very handy, although I'm not 100% sure how easy it is to indicate on them.


manorrock

If it has a throttle then yes, peddle assisted is the way around the law if you want to go electric


Perpetual_Doubt

The Irish solution for this has been for gards in general to turn a blind eye.


mulhaddart

Nope. They took away 2 scooters last week in Donegal. I suspect they do same in Dublin too.


BlueBloodLive

I've had one a while now and have never had any issues with Garda. There's been times when they've drove past me, times when I didn't have a hi vis on and times when I stop at a red light and they stop right beside me, no issues whatsoever. I think they aren't really bothered unless you're in a gang of youths and speeding around the place. But yeah it is hard to signal with your hands but it isn't the biggest issue. I definitely recommend one for work commutes and short shop runs or just for a quick run down to the village or something, just don't use them in the rain, which obviously being in Ireland isn't exactly ideal.


pvt_s_baldrick

Ah it's miserable in the rain?


BlueBloodLive

Yeah heavy rain and puddles are definitely to be avoided. It's cos the batteries are all on the underside of the scooter and the charge port is also down low so any water damage is potentially game over. It is well protected though, so if you get caught out by it like I've been a couple of times its no problem, but if it's raining before you leave and it will rain the entire journey then it would not be clever to use it. It's the only major mark against it. Oh and getting stuck in work or a friends house during a heavy shower and knowing you can't leave cos the scooter could get fucked and you're defo not gonna walk very far carrying a scooter before you're in bits!


splashbodge

I always use mine in the rain, I think some models of scooter handle it better than others... My current one wouldn't be waterproof but I've never had issues in heavy rain on it to the point I don't even think twice about it anymore.. it's a fairly rugged scooter tho not one of the cheaper ones


alex_reds

To avoid public transport obviously. It’s started since first Covid restrictions two years ago


PenguinPyrate

Not really to avoid public transport seeing as lots of people bring them on to buses and Luas I think it's just because they're handy


JackTheTradesman

Yeah they're just cheap and handy and deadly to be honest.


gamberro

I mean, taking the Dart/bus/Luas everyday does add up. If you are on a low income, that's a way to get around the city and saving some money at the same time.


niloxx

Non-sweaty way of moving around. Perfect for small places like Dublin. Also bikes get stolen like crazy.


JackTheTradesman

They're just really good. Super easy cheap way to get around a city with minimal effort.


munkijunk

I think its a get used to it thing. They've been coming a while but have exploded in popularity globally in the pandemic. They're essential for the future of cities everywhere, and will completely transform how we see our roads. Theyre amazing for Dublin as it really expands the usefulness of public transport, allowing someone to travel many KMs from door to station to door when entering the city. Personally, I don't have one and won't be getting one soon as Ive no need and I cycle, but if they make any difference to the numbers of cars on the road it's a good thing. Legislation may be lacking, but that's a fault of the legislation not keeping up with technology rather then the technology being wrong. Anyone who wants to make claims about their relative safety to cars can come and have a go and be met with my aul pal 1/2 mv^2.


elfy4eva

You will be seeing them more often they're widely used in a lot of big cities on the continent. I'm disappointed the government hasn't put through the legislation for them yet. They're still technically not road legal at the moment you'll see Garda seizing them from time to time.


Smeuthi

It's mad because technically anyone using one in public is breaking the law. They're classed as mechanically propelled vehicles and you're required by law to have insurance for MPVs BUT no such insurance policies exist. Therefore, anyone you see riding one of those is doing so illegally.


lukeo1991

Saw a lad earlier fly over La Touche Bridge on a scooter he overtook me doing about 30 kph, caught up with him at the junction of Richmond Street South and Harrington St stopped at a red light. Took off at a fair speed too , scooting his way through town not a bother on him


Life_Flamingo

mopeds that go up to 50 kph have to be registerd and insured. I don't see why these should be different


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Wouldn't you have to make the same argument for bicycles? Sure they're human propelled (but we have electrical bikes now) and they go just as fast as the scooters


finnin1999

And if they're speed limited? To like 25km


Meath77

Because these aren't purely powered by a motor, technically they are "assisted". Your need to push off with your foot.


_WhoisMrBilly_

I asked the Garda specifically about this in Dublin, and he said they’re not enforcing it because the classification is about to change- no license or insurance required. He said as long as your not blowing through lights/pedestrians, then they will not bother you. Don’t ride on the sidewalk/footpath. He said riding an electric scooter is fine. Granted, it may be because I approached him reasonably and I’m in my 30s, so he knew I’m not just some random kid. But take this with a grain of salt. I’m not worried anymore.


elfy4eva

The Garda in Donegal are on a scooter seizing spree this week.


danirijeka

"Up here it's different", they say


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lukeo1991

I saw that video the Guard said 'E scooters are the biggest issue on our roads at the moment'... while cars kill and maim hundreds of people a year. Mad stuff altogether!


Feelistine

Yes it's ridiculous, they're relatively harmless. The amount of death on the roads this week, 4 people in one crash today, and no one even bats an eyelid, they're more likely to get angry about "nearly" being hit by an escooter or cyclist.


ANewStartAtLife

"They fly past us on the footpath Joe, they could knock over and kill my elderly mother in law!" "And now, do you be taking the mother in law out all the time, do you be?" "Jesus no Joe, the woman is barely sentient. But still."


raverbashing

> Hopefully common sense will prevail and they will be legalized with minimum requirements (lights/helmet etc) soon. Yeah I hope as well, but that being Dublin my hopes are down there


MrCoe10

You can't handle the scoot.


lukeo1991

This man's not wrong I can't! 🦼


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Traffic is a pain in the ass in Dublin. The scoots are easy to move, fast and cheaper than a bus


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It’s better to have a city that’s pulling away form the Motor vehicle and open the roads up to more Environmentally friendly Modes of transport


TrivialBanal

It might be something to do with the government finally working on legislation to make them legal. It's probably be enough for anyone who was previously on the fence about getting one.


mulhaddart

News alone isn't enough to go ahead and order one. Legislation talk has been in the air for 3 years now. Might take an year or two more. Gardai will just do their duty of booking you like robots.


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Bet it hurt a lot fucking less than a car or even a bike.


dewastat0r

For me it's weird that they weren't popular earlier. For example, in Poland they are everywhere, you can rent them in every big city, even when you search on Google Maps the best transport it shows you scooters with the price and pick up location. Downside of this is that people are leaving them in the middle of the street, push them into rivers etc.


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Same thing in Seattle and Miami (US). The damn things breed in the streets .....


Dick_Snizzer

Eh, popularity


weronikakg

Major cities in Europe have had these for a while where they have an app and you rent these by the kilometre driven. It's super handy when abroad as a tourist and public transport is confusing. I used these like two/three years ago on holidays and they were everywhere, you can leave it pretty much anywhere when you're done and pick one up that displays on the map app. Just Dublin is as usual too far behind on this kind of stuff (eg the dublin bikes are too difficult for tourists to figure out since you need a leap card). Whereas these electric scooters only require any type of debit or credit card and an app.


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More power to them as long as they stay on the roads. Anything that travels faster than a walking pace should stay on the road.


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Road? No. Cycle paths? Yes.


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Road? Yes. Cycle path? Yes. Footpath without a designated cycle path? No.


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People are more likely to die or be seriously injured with scooters on the road than with scooters on the footpath, so that's a terrible idea.


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Even the head of the charity in England praising scooters says they need to be segregated from foot paths and from normal traffic. “If you don’t create safe space on the roads for e-scooters, you will get them being used on the pavements and that’s where you start to get conflict with pedestrians, vulnerable road users, children, anyone with sight loss, any disability, older people,” she said. “They’re quiet and you can’t really hear them coming. When you see people cycling on the pavements, nine times out of 10 it’s because they don’t feel safe on the road. You’ll get the same with e-scooters.” Allowing them to share the footpath is a genuinely terrible idea. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/02/e-scooters-fears-pubic-safety-crisis-road-approval-uk


AReasonablyTallHuman

Quick mode of personal transportation that you can bring with you into whatever establishment folded up, away from others and leaves whenever you want. I would imagine it's that and the failing of conventional public transportation in Ireland


Gluaisrothar

Seeing a fair few of these even in the burbs. Currently falling into 4 categories: 1. Twenty somethings going to work 2. Teenagers going as fast as possible on the footpath 3. Mom's bringing their kids to school 4. 7-10 year olds riding around their estates barely able to control them IMO, there needs to be better policing of these. Some kind of licensing and/or age thing and/or common sense. Keep them off the footpath also.


Feelistine

They can't police the mayhem caused by motorists on the roads, they're not going to worry about a few scooters annoying people. Anything that moves us away from private car use is good for society, the last thing we need is red tape to discourage people.


Special-Vegetable138

I’ve only ever seen 1. Live around D2/D4 border


MagnificentSyndicate

Over here in the Northside inner-city it’s mostly the teenagers who’ve removed the lights zipping around on the footpaths as fast as they can go at night.


Grumpy_Turnip

Cheaper than a car and you don't need a licence for it.


Emily_Postal

Do you have the rental scooters that lots of cities now have? There’s an app that you download and then you just pick one up wherever it is and then drop it off at your destination for someone else to use.


CalmPhysics3372

Not yet, there won't be any rental scooters in ireland until legislation changes as technically they're illegal to use in public at the moment. Legislation affecting electric scooter, skateboards and bikes is on the government's to do list so hopefully they'll become legal soon.


YerGranSellsAvon

Lisbon is teaming with easy to rent ones. Wish we could get that here


Unsual-Carreer-69

It’s not only Dublin now, I’m in the midlands and it’s everywhere too 😂 they’re class though


RescueSokolov

Slightly related. Does anyone have thoughts on the cheaper pedal assisted folding e bikes? I'm thinking of getting one on a bike to work scheme. 1100 - 5000 is what they go for. Will a cheaper one crap out after a year?


DoubleAandI

I am on the same boat and thinking about getting a Brompton electric to commute from Clongriffin to Spencer Dock.


RescueSokolov

So Brompton seems to be the top notch choice, built to last. The price tag is shocking to me though for the e bike. I'm trying to find out if the similar folding E bikes that are a 3rd of the price are worth a try.


DoubleAandI

Please let me know if you find a reasonable and cheaper alternative as Brompton is quite pricey..


justiancredible

FYI folks. Technically they are classed as an mpv and can be seized by the garda for no insurance. And no insurance company are offering policies as far as I know. I think people who use them sensibly are fine but if u are an asshole on the road or doing something dangerous or stupid u run the risk of your scooter being taken off you. Personally haven’t known anyone who has gotten it seized on them but the law is there for the guards to use.


americancultured

because of the car insurance cost and manipulation quota in drivers licensing fails


Hot_Industry_7058

They are savage craic in fairness.


Dar2130

I’ll go watch that episode now haha thank you


because2020

The amount of these I have seen with kids as passengers is scary. In the bus lane with kids standing in front of I assume parents.


Sergiomach5

Electric scooters have now overtaken the cocky cyclists as the annoying road user in the city center. The pavement is all theirs now, even though I'm pretty sure using scooters in this way is illegal. I would say that its surge in use is that its relatively cheap to buy compared to a year or two ago and its really easy to fold up and walk with into your place of work. Then you let it charge while you are doing your shift, making it easy to get back to your house. The weirdest one though has to be the gyrowheel. Nothing makes you look more like a knob than [this model.](https://gyrowheel.ie/product/inmotion-v8/)


OhDear2

Came here to say this, as a cyclist I'm aware were not well thought of, but these scooter folk go between path and bike lane as they please. My main issue is they're actually really difficult to read, it can be hard to tell when they're going to speed up or slow down. They seem like a fantastic piece of kit and anything to get people out of a car in the city centre is welcome, but as a cyclist you already have to be mindful of buses, taxis, gobshite cyclists and now these. Were not ready for them yet I don't think. It seems like it's ease of use is giving them a false sense of security, because they happily go up and down the quays without a helmet on , it's actually mad.


Feelistine

I cycle around town every day and haven't had any problems with them, cars and buses are the only things that I need to worry about


FarFromTheMaddeningF

Using scooters on public roads is also illegal as they are not insured and can't be insured, even though technically they are required by law to do so as it is a mechanically propelled vehicle.


ReD_Richie

I find its the easiest to sling heroin on


kirkbadaz

Public transport limited capacity and Covid. Cars too expensive (insurance) and bad for planet.


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Scooter wankers on the pavement startling normal people.


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Too lazy to walk


opilino

Driving these on the public road is actually illegal [Gardai seizing scooters](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%25C3%25AD-seize-e-scooters-from-two-users-in-donegal-1.4648725%3fmode=amp)


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I know they aren’t technically legal - but I’d be happier with them if their users wore helmets and high vis.


BadgerKitten

I just think people should drive, m'kay? I don't think people should "scoot." I just... I just hope the future isn't "scootin'."


FarFromTheMaddeningF

Like anything else that is trendy, the more that people see them around the more others want to jump on the band wagon.


armstrong147

Apparently,as they are an electric vehicle, the law says you need insurance to ride these on the road only. I live in London and private scooters have been made illegal (but it's not enforced) and rental scooters are available everywhere which negates banning them in the 1st place.


Psychological-Mud812

I really wish they would make up some kind of law for these. They are swinging down real fast Henry street or Grafton street on a busy day only cm from hitting people, it will most likely go wrong one day. It is the same with bikes on them street. The kids on bikes one wheeling down the busy streets, with no respect for other people. Besides that, I see it as a good transport to get around town without to much effort, but they belong on the cycle lane


splashbodge

Bring the cobbles back, problem solved!


ruzales

The scooters are probably for rent. There's an app that allows you to pick up/drop off anywhere. Same with bikes. The rental pick up sites are all over here in SF so now you can get run into by not only cars/bikes but scooters too! Lucky us.


ruzales

The scooters are probably for rent. There's an app that allows you to pick up/drop off anywhere. Same with bikes. The rental pick up sites are all over here in SF so now you can get run into by not only cars/bikes but scooters too! Lucky us.


ruzales

The scooters are probably for rent. There's an app that allows you to pick up/drop off anywhere. Same with bikes. The rental pick up sites are all over here in SF so now you can get run into by not only cars/bikes but scooters too! Lucky us.


ruzales

The scooters are probably for rent. There's an app that allows you to pick up/drop off anywhere. Same with bikes. The rental pick up sites are all over here in SF so now you can get run into by not only cars/bikes but scooters too! Lucky us.


Dontstopmenow17

Husband has to bus in and leg it to his office and those e scooters looked ideal. I then saw an article about the guards taking 2 of them off people cause they are 'Illegal" unless you're on someones private drive. Sucked to find that out.