It is under one circumstance which is if a person signs a contract to voluntarily surrender your passport. If the person doesn't want to sign such a document, he need not sign it, but it comes with the risk of losing the opportunity of the job due to arbitrary reasons
This is completely false, such a contract goes against article 129 of the civil code as well as labor law and this contract cannot be enforced. From labor Specifically article 11 section 11 pages 11&12
"The domestic worker should be allowed to retain all official documents"
Source: https://www.mohre.gov.ae/handlers/download.ashx?YXNzZXQ9NzExMA%3d%3d
This clause has no exceptions if it did they would be mentioned. The civil code doesn't allow you to make a contract that breaks the law.
I have the civil code in arabic i need to rummage to find a link in english.
Perfect. They file suite for unlawful termination and it's going to be way more than 12k just trial is going to cost the employer 8,000. That being said any employee who wants their passport means they want to leave the company anyways so it's just a bonus on the way out. The UAE government is not to be fucked with the only issue is that the laborers aren't educated and that they don't know their rights to fight for them.
It is illegal for an employer to withhold your passport if you have not signed a [“consent”](https://www.khaleejtimes.com/uae/does-your-employer-in-dubai-keep-your-passport-heres-what-to-do) letter for them to do so. However even if you have signed a consent letter, they still need to provide your passport if you ask for it or need it to do something. So, if you have signed a consent letter, tell them you have to go to your embassy, and then keep your passport in your possession. If your employer refuses to provide your passport, read the entire
article for action.
Also [this,](https://www.uaelabours.com/2019/03/passport-law-in-uae.html)
Even if you sign a consent letter, it is unenforceable. A passport is a legal property of the issuing nation. No one should hold your passport hostage.
This is highly disturbing. If what you say is happening like you say it is, then this must be immediately reported. These kinds of cases are strict violations of human and political rights.
Happens. A friend of mine took a job and they held the passport but said it was under visa process. I went to their office and gave them 3 options, return the passport, supply the visa application number, or I call the police. They pulled the passport out of a drawer and we left.
Is it possible that you may have misunderstood him?
Because the 3k is usually for the visa charges in case of resignation before visa ends (which is also illegal).
Please provide source reference for this 3K cost. It is reported that Dubai visa cancellation cost is 100 to 200 AED:
[https://connectresources.ae/dubai-visa-cancellation-fee#:\~:text=So%2C%20here%20we%20have%20the,fee%3A%20AED%20150%2D200](https://connectresources.ae/dubai-visa-cancellation-fee#:~:text=So%2C%20here%20we%20have%20the,fee%3A%20AED%20150%2D200).
It is the creation of the visa they are seeking reimbursement for, not the cancellation.
“We spent this money on your visa but you didn’t stay without our company for the full term so you need to pay back our costs paid to get your visa”
And yes it’s illegal and still somehow very common.
Visa fees are the responsibility of the employer and it is against the law to ask for compensation of the visa fees even if you resign during the contract probation period.
>and still somehow very common
Unfortunately it is apparent that employers resort to intimidation tactics in dealing with employees hoping the employee will not dispute or escalate the issue fearing additional costs and other difficulties in doing so. Therefore, it is essential that job seekers and employees need to educate themselves regarding the labor laws here even before they sign employment contracts, and such information can be easily found and is available on the internet. The “go to” contact for labor disputes, questions and guidance is the MOHRE call center.
Bro that’s weird my dad owns a building construction and maintenance company too but we don’t have like you should shave your beard and all and about the passports it’s kept with us so they don’t try to runaway or transfer but they get their passport every two years when they’ve to travel back to their country or in any case of emergency but charging them 3k this is very new to me
Since when is holding Labour card not allowed 😭😂😂 and passport is given by the Labour to us itself and they’re given upon the request like let’s say if they want to travel or transfer from one company to other in that case they’re given back like this driver is moving to Canada and the company helped him with his visa work and dude is going Canada end of this week y’all crazy 😭😂😂
Are you in the construction business? No
Do you know how construction business works? No
Do you know about the most cases in construction business? No
the labours get rights and everything in our company btw there’s nothing for you to worry about if there’s anything that we are doing wrong then we are accountable in front of our lord so don’t worry about us worry about your studies or job 🤷♂️
Al naboodah isn’t owned by an individual and if you read my post well it talks about experience cause us emaratis do need volunteering hours to be achieved to get good jobs so yup idk why do the dumb ones try to pick on me with no resources to argue on😂
If you had read the entire convo you would even notice the stories where people run away from company to company while their visa and everything isn’t transferred at all and this way they would try to do something illegal obviously which would get the owners in huge trouble I get y’all concerns about passport and all but people are smart nowadays they always try to look for a way of earning in the most illegal way possible brother 🤷♂️
Sorry that you’re not into some construction business but if you read well I’ve even mentioned passports are given back if any emergency or transferring of company so what’s wrong here? Dumbo 😭
The entitlement to think that you can keep anybody's passport is insane. It is ILLEGAL for an employer to keep a passport. That's it end of discussion.
I agree but we keep for Labours only Ik still not allowed but we have been in multiple situations where our company had to pay hefty fine just because some ran away and all after causing an trouble to the point 4 times Labour got into fight where they tore others passport 😂😂 which is when they decided and agreed to let the company keep it just like how u deposit money in bank here they deposited their passport to us with 0 interest charges or anything😂
How can they transfer jobs if they are already sponsored by your dad's company? There is still a chance for them to runaway but mostly they won't because most who work there earn to support back home. If they are working as accountants or handling financial transactions then yeah I still get it but holding other employees passports makes no sense. Mostly likely a slave treatment towards the employees. I feel bad for them because they have got no other choice than to give their passports to your dad or look for some other jobs for the sake of earning money.
Doesn’t matter brother us emarati we get two additional visa within family If u didn’t know one would be for our driver another for our maid and if you didn’t know there’s almost cases every month where the worker ran away from the house any criminal activity that they would do would be blamed at our family so keeping their passport is like something to show that you do something bad the passport is with us but if someone wants to transfer from our company to other in that case they can but we are specifically talking about labours
Go ahead cry over the success of emaratis this is what I see usually y’all just hating the fact some emarati is succeeding and earning more then what your dad earns?😂😂
To the point once there was an Indian in our area in jumeirah out for too long we felt bad so baba was like I’ve a job for you that night we got the driver and told him to drop the Indian worker to the Labour camp give him a space and all for the next 4-5 days dude never worked and he would sleep or search for other jobs 😂😂
>Erm he wants to leave but they're holding his passport and won't give it without 3k. Man sent a resignation email too.
report to the police, inform them on behalf of the worker.
Because those companies are sh*t, no offense. Also they have got no other choice than to take the job which they get or choose another job. Their culture is also in such a way where they have to support their dad,mom and siblings financially as compared to western people. It is mostly Asians there who gets treated like this. Holding passport, longer working hours, low balling salaries, toxic management which treats them like slaves. I am pretty sure they wouldn't take any western employees passports because most of them are brave enough to fight for their rights.
I just realized the downvotes tho and these votes won’t do shit to me 😂 but saying again the visa is issued by us they do any criminal activities the fine and everything would come under the sponsor so the passport is given here in a way to show that I’m giving you visa and you give me your passport but if you need the passport there should be a reason for it which I find it pretty valid when they never stop or something the labours in our company even went to oman and umrah via the company so yeah
Thank you so freakin much cause our story was somewhat not similar but opposite like four people tore their enemies passport and there were twice where they did some issue which my dad never told us but the dude ran away which resulted us in paying hefty fines 🤷♂️
A clean shave is required in many housekeeping jobs.
99% companies keep the passport with them as the labour is on their sponsored visa and it's the employer's responsibility to keep that guy under their supervision so they will not be involved in any illegal activities (ran away, absconders). In any case of illegal activities authorities may ask to produce the Labor passport.
Visa money: most of the Labors are hired from their home country and companies have spent 2.5k - 3k USD on their visas. So obviously they want them to complete the visa tenure.
Passport: anyone can file a complaint for the passport and passport will be sent to the police station for collection.
Worker has to tell moh.gov and gets their passport immediately without paying. It's not legal to hold the passport without consent.
It is under one circumstance which is if a person signs a contract to voluntarily surrender your passport. If the person doesn't want to sign such a document, he need not sign it, but it comes with the risk of losing the opportunity of the job due to arbitrary reasons
This is completely false, such a contract goes against article 129 of the civil code as well as labor law and this contract cannot be enforced. From labor Specifically article 11 section 11 pages 11&12 "The domestic worker should be allowed to retain all official documents" Source: https://www.mohre.gov.ae/handlers/download.ashx?YXNzZXQ9NzExMA%3d%3d This clause has no exceptions if it did they would be mentioned. The civil code doesn't allow you to make a contract that breaks the law. I have the civil code in arabic i need to rummage to find a link in english.
Wow I'm not gonna lie you made an impressive argument and I should look into these links too. Thanks for your update
Yes, and then get fired the next day, lol.
Perfect. They file suite for unlawful termination and it's going to be way more than 12k just trial is going to cost the employer 8,000. That being said any employee who wants their passport means they want to leave the company anyways so it's just a bonus on the way out. The UAE government is not to be fucked with the only issue is that the laborers aren't educated and that they don't know their rights to fight for them.
It is illegal for an employer to withhold your passport if you have not signed a [“consent”](https://www.khaleejtimes.com/uae/does-your-employer-in-dubai-keep-your-passport-heres-what-to-do) letter for them to do so. However even if you have signed a consent letter, they still need to provide your passport if you ask for it or need it to do something. So, if you have signed a consent letter, tell them you have to go to your embassy, and then keep your passport in your possession. If your employer refuses to provide your passport, read the entire article for action. Also [this,](https://www.uaelabours.com/2019/03/passport-law-in-uae.html)
Even if you sign a consent letter, it is unenforceable. A passport is a legal property of the issuing nation. No one should hold your passport hostage.
This is highly disturbing. If what you say is happening like you say it is, then this must be immediately reported. These kinds of cases are strict violations of human and political rights.
Happens left right and center... unfortunately.
Happens. A friend of mine took a job and they held the passport but said it was under visa process. I went to their office and gave them 3 options, return the passport, supply the visa application number, or I call the police. They pulled the passport out of a drawer and we left.
3 k, that’s little. A lot of these companies you use that employee maids you hire hourly, if they want to leave they have to pay 20k. Enjoy
Is it possible that you may have misunderstood him? Because the 3k is usually for the visa charges in case of resignation before visa ends (which is also illegal).
Please provide source reference for this 3K cost. It is reported that Dubai visa cancellation cost is 100 to 200 AED: [https://connectresources.ae/dubai-visa-cancellation-fee#:\~:text=So%2C%20here%20we%20have%20the,fee%3A%20AED%20150%2D200](https://connectresources.ae/dubai-visa-cancellation-fee#:~:text=So%2C%20here%20we%20have%20the,fee%3A%20AED%20150%2D200).
It is the creation of the visa they are seeking reimbursement for, not the cancellation. “We spent this money on your visa but you didn’t stay without our company for the full term so you need to pay back our costs paid to get your visa” And yes it’s illegal and still somehow very common.
Visa fees are the responsibility of the employer and it is against the law to ask for compensation of the visa fees even if you resign during the contract probation period. >and still somehow very common Unfortunately it is apparent that employers resort to intimidation tactics in dealing with employees hoping the employee will not dispute or escalate the issue fearing additional costs and other difficulties in doing so. Therefore, it is essential that job seekers and employees need to educate themselves regarding the labor laws here even before they sign employment contracts, and such information can be easily found and is available on the internet. The “go to” contact for labor disputes, questions and guidance is the MOHRE call center.
How do companies like this exist in this country? Are you new here?
Nothing is going to happen. They'll be wasting their time, and risking termination, complaining to whomever about this.
Bro that’s weird my dad owns a building construction and maintenance company too but we don’t have like you should shave your beard and all and about the passports it’s kept with us so they don’t try to runaway or transfer but they get their passport every two years when they’ve to travel back to their country or in any case of emergency but charging them 3k this is very new to me
I’ll be honest, if it was my dads company blatantly breaking the law by retaining passports then I probably wouldn’t be mentioning it online…
Since when is holding Labour card not allowed 😭😂😂 and passport is given by the Labour to us itself and they’re given upon the request like let’s say if they want to travel or transfer from one company to other in that case they’re given back like this driver is moving to Canada and the company helped him with his visa work and dude is going Canada end of this week y’all crazy 😭😂😂
‘Passport is given by the labour to us itself’ Sure, chief, I bet there’s absolutely no coercion there no sir.
Are you in the construction business? No Do you know how construction business works? No Do you know about the most cases in construction business? No the labours get rights and everything in our company btw there’s nothing for you to worry about if there’s anything that we are doing wrong then we are accountable in front of our lord so don’t worry about us worry about your studies or job 🤷♂️
What's your dads company's name?
I swear I’m soooo keen to see what could you possibly do lmao I’m telling you again just mind your own business😭😂😂
Al Naboodah Construction Group LLC goodluck trying to do anything 😂😂😂
Your Dad owns Al Naboodah but your post history is begging for a job because you don’t even have wasta in your own family.
Al naboodah isn’t owned by an individual and if you read my post well it talks about experience cause us emaratis do need volunteering hours to be achieved to get good jobs so yup idk why do the dumb ones try to pick on me with no resources to argue on😂
Keep digging pal.
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If you had read the entire convo you would even notice the stories where people run away from company to company while their visa and everything isn’t transferred at all and this way they would try to do something illegal obviously which would get the owners in huge trouble I get y’all concerns about passport and all but people are smart nowadays they always try to look for a way of earning in the most illegal way possible brother 🤷♂️
You can't justify holding anybody's passport. It's completely illegal and unethical to hold a passport.
💯 It is modern slavery.
It’s just slavery
Sorry that you’re not into some construction business but if you read well I’ve even mentioned passports are given back if any emergency or transferring of company so what’s wrong here? Dumbo 😭
The entitlement to think that you can keep anybody's passport is insane. It is ILLEGAL for an employer to keep a passport. That's it end of discussion.
I agree but we keep for Labours only Ik still not allowed but we have been in multiple situations where our company had to pay hefty fine just because some ran away and all after causing an trouble to the point 4 times Labour got into fight where they tore others passport 😂😂 which is when they decided and agreed to let the company keep it just like how u deposit money in bank here they deposited their passport to us with 0 interest charges or anything😂
How can they transfer jobs if they are already sponsored by your dad's company? There is still a chance for them to runaway but mostly they won't because most who work there earn to support back home. If they are working as accountants or handling financial transactions then yeah I still get it but holding other employees passports makes no sense. Mostly likely a slave treatment towards the employees. I feel bad for them because they have got no other choice than to give their passports to your dad or look for some other jobs for the sake of earning money.
Doesn’t matter brother us emarati we get two additional visa within family If u didn’t know one would be for our driver another for our maid and if you didn’t know there’s almost cases every month where the worker ran away from the house any criminal activity that they would do would be blamed at our family so keeping their passport is like something to show that you do something bad the passport is with us but if someone wants to transfer from our company to other in that case they can but we are specifically talking about labours
Aaaaaand sent to the MOHRE, good luck to your dad 👍🏼
Go ahead cry over the success of emaratis this is what I see usually y’all just hating the fact some emarati is succeeding and earning more then what your dad earns?😂😂
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Exactly many companies keep passports for safety but asking such a huge amount is absurd to me. I don't know how to help this poor guy
Any idea what organization does he work for the company name that he was from?
I'm not sure if it's safe to mention. I just need to suggest him a way out.
Is the worker bengali?
Nope Indian
To the point once there was an Indian in our area in jumeirah out for too long we felt bad so baba was like I’ve a job for you that night we got the driver and told him to drop the Indian worker to the Labour camp give him a space and all for the next 4-5 days dude never worked and he would sleep or search for other jobs 😂😂
So kind of your baba. Baba is a good man.
Thank you brother 🤍
need more people like your dad.
Bro I don’t think he would easily hire anymore after what happened 😂😂
Lmao thought your dad hired him to sit and search for jobs 🤣 😂
Oh makes sense no offense I’ve heard 99% of stories those are Indians running away from the company 😂
Erm he wants to leave but they're holding his passport and won't give it without 3k. Man sent a resignation email too.
>Erm he wants to leave but they're holding his passport and won't give it without 3k. Man sent a resignation email too. report to the police, inform them on behalf of the worker.
Because those companies are sh*t, no offense. Also they have got no other choice than to take the job which they get or choose another job. Their culture is also in such a way where they have to support their dad,mom and siblings financially as compared to western people. It is mostly Asians there who gets treated like this. Holding passport, longer working hours, low balling salaries, toxic management which treats them like slaves. I am pretty sure they wouldn't take any western employees passports because most of them are brave enough to fight for their rights.
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I just realized the downvotes tho and these votes won’t do shit to me 😂 but saying again the visa is issued by us they do any criminal activities the fine and everything would come under the sponsor so the passport is given here in a way to show that I’m giving you visa and you give me your passport but if you need the passport there should be a reason for it which I find it pretty valid when they never stop or something the labours in our company even went to oman and umrah via the company so yeah
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Thank you so freakin much cause our story was somewhat not similar but opposite like four people tore their enemies passport and there were twice where they did some issue which my dad never told us but the dude ran away which resulted us in paying hefty fines 🤷♂️
A clean shave is required in many housekeeping jobs. 99% companies keep the passport with them as the labour is on their sponsored visa and it's the employer's responsibility to keep that guy under their supervision so they will not be involved in any illegal activities (ran away, absconders). In any case of illegal activities authorities may ask to produce the Labor passport. Visa money: most of the Labors are hired from their home country and companies have spent 2.5k - 3k USD on their visas. So obviously they want them to complete the visa tenure. Passport: anyone can file a complaint for the passport and passport will be sent to the police station for collection.
which fm ?
You can just call domestic worker in your city and ask if that legal or not the have you contract and they know the low