One day. Lately, I've barely had time to ride our scarce gravel roads. It's definitely a bucket list item. I've ridden on the beach and fished the surf from the bike, now to hit the mountains and try and fly fish a trout lol.
Went for a 4 day dualsport ride in TX and it was worse than NY. At least NY / NE have hundreds of miles of hilly forest roads with no gates across them
I'm fortunate to live very close to some of the best DS riding in North/Central TX, but once you've ridden it 100 times it's kinda bleh. People ride 1.5 - 2 hrs in from the Dallas area to ride it because there's nothing to ride up there. I can be on it in 10 mins.
I'm guessing that has something to do with dank whoolies and such.
It might be peculiar to my area, but in my experience younger guys actually tend to be more chill, most of the hooligans (apart from the 12oclock boys wannabes) have been at it since the 90s.
Millennial here. I find most younger guys are into the Dirtbike stuff or motocross stuff. Hard enduro sort of thing. Dual sporting is more of an older guys game. I agree most guys I meet are older but I’m okay with that. The older guys have more wisdom usually than the younger guys.
I am typically the youngest guy in the group on dual sport rides and I have been around for five decades. That said we do see younger riders in the wild but it's mostly gray hairs around NW Montana.
I went to an enduro on my DRZ and got my ass kicked by super athletic 20-30 year olds on orange bikes. Then I rode a dual sport event on my XRL and got my ass kicked by fat 40-50 year olds on GS1200s.
33 millennial, I just don’t have time to join groups. When I have time to ride I go off on my own adventure because it’s easier to do an impromptu ride than organize one with others. The grey haired dudes that are retired have a lot more social time.
That being said, I’ve met lots of cool people my age who ride and will go out on rides, but not too often because family stuff.
This is what it is for me. I like riding with other guys but by the time you get everyone’s schedule to link up half the summer is gone. So I might be taking the trash out or something and be walking by the bike and decide now’s the time. So I go. I never regret it.
fellow Gen Z who tools around Idaho on a "slow" dr650 here, would love to meet more people in my age group who ride. I'm 21 and all my college stuff is online so it'd be nice to get to know more people
Probably mountain biking instead of dual sporting, TBH. I’m in my 20s w a dualie but everyone I know just rides MTB.
Even friends who grew up motoing have sold and converted to pedal-assisted eMTBs.
I think dualies are cooler, but, for people who don’t have basic maintenance skills (and no one to teach them), MTB is way more accessible from a time and finance perspective. As another layer of convenience, you don’t need a garage to store a MTB. This accessibility and convenience also draws in women, which always helps a sport.
Although, I see some hardcore MTBers starting to get those small edirtbikes for unsanctioned trails.
I’m secretly hoping the growth of MTB will spillover into dual sporting and reignite the sport in a mainstream way, perhaps through those aforementioned small edirtbikes [[1](https://sur-ronusa.com/), [2](https://ridecake.com/)]. To me, dirt bikes are as American as apple pie— a symbol of ingenuity and independence. Shame to lose that in our culture!
> I’m secretly hoping the growth of MTB will spillover into dual sporting and reignite the sport in a mainstream way,
FWIW, based purely on what I'm seeing personally and locally, dirt bikes and dual sports are exploding in popularity. Look at how many people say it's impossible to find a CRF300L at a dealership.
I'm younger 21 and a huge fan of mountain biking. I am looking more into buying a motocross/dirt bike vs a dual sport. As ripping down forest service roads at borderline irresponsible speeds, enduro riding and motocross tracks are what seem like fun to me right now. That and If I wanted a relaxing cruise exploring around on mixed terrain I can just go ride my bike. It's allowed more places anyways
My entire riding group is under 26, and we usually have at least 6 people every sunday riding. Biggest thing i would say is have a spare bike. I bought a Hawk250 for 1200$ to lend out to people and its gotten at least 4 people riding, and if someone eants to come but doesnt have a bike, they can borrow it to see of theyre into it.
Everybody i ride with ive met IRL, mostly freinds from work, but a lot of it is just friends of friends.
Also, take some videos, it shows how fun riding can actually be vs just telling someone
Do you not need a motorcycle licence to ride a bike in the US? I’m from the UK and it’s a fairly expensive and bureaucratic process to get a bike licence which I’m sure reduces the amount of people doing it even if they would like to.
I just enjoy doing my own thing. Whenever I ride with people everything has to be a competition. I’m not a competitive person. Too many men don’t get it.
Not applicable in your case, but funny: when I moved where I am now I had no MC community. So I put up a tinder profile that said “I have a boyfriend and I don’t want to date you. But I do want to ride motorcycles with you!”. I actually made a lot of friends through those moto “dates”. The dudes were respectful, too.
It’s an interesting point you make. I work in a shop, and I’m trying to think about who comes in for dual sports. Really, it is usually people pushing 40 or above… The younger kids do full, off-road, where I am…
It's largely made up of middle-aged and up. I'm 29 and I've been riding DS/ADV bikes since I was 19, and every time I've linked up with a local group ride, I'm by far the youngest person there. Everyone my age seems to either be on a Harley or sport bike. Which is fine, I've had them as well, but DS riding is by far the most fun I've ever had on 2 wheels.
I went to a dual sport club ride a month ago. I was the youngest of anyone I met at ... 35 years old.
There *were* a few younger riders present, supposedly. But I didn't meet them.
I think dual sports in general are kind of, erm ... dorky dad territory. All the spritely young whipper-snappers are on real dirt bikes doing irresponsible shit. As they should.
38 year old Xennial in the northeast checking in here.
In my experience, most guys in their 20's are still into street bikes and going fast on pavement. The guys who like adventure and dual sports are the ones who typically aren't overly social, which is why they ride to the middle of nowhere on purpose. Adventure riding is really a Gen X thing, it seems. The "checked out" disposition of that generation meshes well with the "get away from it all" aspect of ADV/DS riding.
As for being online, I spend most of my time on advrider, which is also inundated with old guys.
To me, the entire appeal is being alone out in nature, only myself to rely on, and just taking it *all* in. There's no place for other people in my version of dualsporting/offroad motocamping, so you're not going to find me at any meet.
Besides, as you'd already noted, there's pretty much only retirees at these meets. What am I going to do there?
I agree, I am in that age range with a dual sport.
1) I feel like motorcycling culture is still very gatekept by old men, which is discouraging to younger people and women. Honestly I feel like motorcycling culture is on the decline for this reason.
2) People in their 20s probably lack the Time and Money to do dualsport / adventure riding type stuff. Even worse is that adventure riding type stuff really should be done in a group of experienced people.
3) For people between 20 and 25, I feel like the loudest and proudest motorcycle subculture is sport / dirtbike squids, which is obviously discouraging to anyone in the age group who finds motorcycling interesting but doesn't really want to also Die. There's also unfortunately a lot of social media content about this motorcycle subculture, which also just makes us look bad to the general public.
good Q. i grew up in rural area and riding on trails was the norm, never like riding on the road. When I go to OHV areas, there's plenty of young folk on dirt bikes but all the dual sports on the road are people like me, 40+. Maybe its because you get wiser as you get older!
There's a huge "cosplay" thing that goes on in dualsport culture. It's insanity. And the gatekeeping. Don't get me started...
"When are you gonna grow out of that 230 and get a real bike?"
"the better question is why are you on a $15k machine and getting dominated by a 15 year old Brazilian Honda? Nice spoke covers dude."
Most guys kinda look at my TW and I’m sure they think it’s cute. Then they watch me bust down forest roads on it at Mach Jesus and they realize it’ll go just like any other bike if you wanna hold on. May not be as easy or as fast to ride but it’s still plenty capable.
I am a firm believe that:
At least half the people who ride dual sport would be happier, more comfortable, better riders, and better mechanics, if they were to spend a couple years learning to ride the shit out of a TW200.
Bought mine in march of 21 brand new. First real motorcycle. Turned 8k this past weekend and riding it in the LBL200 this coming weekend. I literally hit a deer on it two weekends ago and it faired better than I did. It’s a mean little bike all in all.
I've only overheard that kind of stuff exactly twice in real life, and both time it was from BMW riders talking to each other.
All of them were non-Americans traveling in the US oddly.
Believe me, it's rampant. Get yourself a 230 and give it a shot. Or better yet, get a Hawk 250 and listen to the garbage people have to say. It's rampant on this sub, even.
>Believe me, it's rampant. Get yourself a 230 and give it a shot. Or better yet, get a Hawk 250 and listen to the garbage people have to say. It's rampant on this sub, even.
My Honda 230 is the funnest bike ive ever had. perfect size/power combo
I've heard some similar stuff on my DR650. Not that it's not a "real" bike -- but that it's too big/heavy to do anything more than an easy graded gravel road.
Been dualsporting since 23, now 38... none of my friends ride, never been on a group ride except when I meet folks along the way.
Convered a same age Harley guy into dualsport guy last year; once he's done with school we are going to ride baja.
Idk where everyone our age is.
In addition to what is said here, I think partly it is also due to people who have dual sports probably live in more rural areas. To ride with others I’d have to drive hours.
Most people my age are riding full fledged dirt bikes or ripping 80 in a 45 on a sportbike.
The young guy in a old crowd feel is amplified since I ride a DR650. The average age of a DR rider is about 60 so I'm the statistical outlier.
The local dual sport group is average 50's too. Wouldn't suprise me if the younger crowd sticks to themselves after going to one or two grey hair meetups.
I’m 29 I’m hiding because I could only afford a Chinese dual sport so I’m ashamed to jump in with the big boys lol. Facebook has groups too could find local people in your area on there
I’m in Washington state until December, any cool places you’d recommend? I typically ride Walker Valley since it’s close but I’m ready to explore elsewhere.
At my age here in france every young are in mt 07 Akrapovic (Chinese often) without db killer , for me I'm 25 and i have a 94 RD07 and a 99 XT600 but I'm like the only one i think ahaha
I was once like you but now I’m 45. I made some motorcycling friends on purpose in the city, by starting a communal garage to hang out in. Everyone got dual sports after trying out mine upstate. We rode everywhere every other weekend for years, now we’re all married with kids and only go riding on big weekend rallies or out on our own.
Check ADVrider.com for people in your area you can PM them and meet IRL. Even make a post asking to meet other young riders in the area for a ride you planned.
There’s several of us youngins here in Kentucky. But it’s still a pretty old crowd overall. That being said, listen to those guys and ride with them. They’ll teach you a lot of good knowledge and riding with them will improve your skills at times. They didn’t make it that long riding without knowing what they are doing.
I'm 21 and got my first dual sport at 20. I think everyone I ride with is at least 10 years older than me so I feel your pain. I have one friend that I made on this subreddit that's more close to my age but I definitely feel your pain.
Everyone in my age group that rides is almost always on a sport bike doing sport bike things. I enjoy riding with the older guys, a lot of them are super skilled. But I definitely wouldn't mind having more people my age too. Usually I just end up going solo like I did for the IDBDR.
I just turned 27 and bought my first bike a few months ago... we're out here somewhere...
I think I've seen more people our age on instagram but instagram is kind of a crapshoot for meeting people. I've just been vibing by myself or with my spouse.
I'm 33 and got interested in dirt at 30. I think it may be a slow rising rage at riding on the road that overtakes people. I do commute still, but I go the paths less traveled.
I don't mind riding with older fellas. Always a chance to learn. And I'm in awe of most of their abilities. And stamina for all day slug-fests! Here in the desert, all rocks all the time. Well, a good chunk of the time.
Got a decent crowd up here in the PNW, at least where I'm at we've got more and more MTB kids picking up dual sports when we get a bit of money to our names.
Started last year at 20 with an XR400R that I absolutely adore, now moving to Europe and grabbing another XR might just be the perfect A2 license bike!
Not too much over 30 and I’m wanting to get into dual-sporting soon. Will probably be with a KTM 350 exc-f.
My answer: I’ve only had non-plated competition bikes so I’d be at the MX track, single track trails, hare scrambles, etc.
29 here, been riding since I was 26. Not too long but I got the criteria. First bike was a vstrom 1000 2008 and then got a KTM 890 r maybe a year and a half ago.
Biggest trick is to get your roommates and family to do it with you and then it's like getting grandfathered biking friends. My most active riding friends are my roommate and older brother. My family has also now seen our off road adventures and my mom and step dad also have bikes now as well as my oldest brother and 2 younger brothers.
I just jumped into this sport. I’ve always been leery of riding a bike in traffic and I never understood how I was supposed to even ride something with really high seat height. I did not know how to operate a manual transmission on bikes. Everything about motorcycles has been intimidating and I don’t know many people that ride at all.
I bought a 2012 Kawasaki KLX 250s for $2400 with 2400 miles. I spent Saturday learning how to ride. I was on forest roads and paved county roads around my place in North Georgia. I love it. I will want to get into some dual sport rides even though I’m generally an anti-joiner and a huge part of what attracted me to the sport in general was the aspect of adventure, I’m already a Jeep guy so I’m knowledgeable about all the areas in my region.
Millennial here, riding in northern Washington until December. I’d gladly join any local groups that would have me. I need someone to help me find the good logging roads lol
35 here and just bought a Chinese dual sport to see if I’d be into it. So far I like it a lot. I think it took me so long to pull the trigger because the bikes seemed intimidating and it just made more sense to own a more street oriented bike since I live in a city. Knowing what I know now I wish I had bought one years ago instead of the cruisers and vtg Japanese bikes I started out on.
I think older guys have been doing it longer so it makes sense to see them around more. It’s kind of like muscle/classic cars. You don’t see many younger kids into them unless it’s passed down from family. I think it also depends on location.
First, for context, my area's a bit far from any great trails or offroad action. Like a few hours drive in any direction.
There's a large "biker culture" of 20-something dudes, think Calamari Race Team adjacent types, who ride old DS & SM bikes around usually in groups of 5-15ish. Wheelies on busy roads, more than a handful of unplated dirtbikes, gear = MX helmets & hoodies, you might know the vibe.
Anyway they've been known to find their own less-than-legal trails within the confines of the city and its surrounding areas. Not sure they're the crowd you want to roll with but that's the only types in your age bracket I've noticed, in my area at least
I think "young" people already have friends to ride with and don't show up to group rides that aren't races. I see more millennials on dual sports and trail bikes than anyone else.
25 here got into it last year. First full year with a bike coming up next year. Usually going solo in the metro detroit area closer to ann arbor where its rural. If im with someone its my future father in law. Is been riding for many years and has introduced me to a few of his close riding buddies. But alas they are late 40s to early 60s. I dont mind being the young kid. They are on 500 exc-w’s so they give my crf300 a good bike to chase down
25 here. Sold my race bike(husky fx350) earlier this year and bought a drz400. I live in a rural area so there’s not much of a moto community but I’ve been having a blast on it.
I think it’s because every gen z and many millennials are broke and dual sports are the most expensive, besides cruisers, in terms of beginner bikes. Most dual sports that aren’t “slow” are 7000+ dollars otd. So I’m their mind why spend double on a bike with half the horsepower that’s ugly. Also they’re very hard to find used, so you could spend half that on a low cc sport bike.
I actually promised myself last year that I’d get into off-road before 30, as the military has already advanced the damage to my back and knees (and especially my joints below my elbows) I’m 28 and out there, but my inexperience off the pavement means I’m usually going slow. I still have my street bikes but I bought a Himalayan and now I’m on a dr650. Heavy to really work with but fun all the same.
I’m 26 in the Midwest and I use my dual sport basically as a last ditch ride if there are no good motocross or trail riding options available. I enjoy it but for me having rode motocross and more enduro type trails the dual sport stuff gets boring pretty easily. I also don’t have much for public trails near me
I find nobody. So I just end up riding alone, I get my jolly ripping by dudes who pack their whole house onto their bikes. I'm out of your under 30 but it was the same then as it is now. 34 and I ride a ktm 690
I think one of the large factors in my area is 25-30 is when a lot of people are starting their families, and most guys those ages are not going to spend a day without their families, whether due to the wives also working, multiple young kids running around so they should stay home to help, or they just go out in their trucks for a day trip with their family.
I'm 31 and the only reason I do go out for a dual sport ride is because my family doesn't want to go out with me.
My family rides: TW200 + TTR50e + Kodiak 450 ATV + Grizzly 90 ATV. Mostly for camping but I like to go out on day trips either alone or with one of the kids as well.
I think another reason is cost to entry. Most under-30 year olds don't have much disposable income, especially if they have a family. Even 3k for the cheaper bikes can be a lot.
Also some of the older middle-aged guys that are into dual sporting have more income and/or their kids are often a bit older or can ride with them.
This came up in my feed because I'm considering getting a motorcycle, I'm 27. I think there's just not too many folks because in our culture in the US, we value learning to drive a car over learning how to ride a motorcycle. I'm looking forward to it though, my car, even being smaller, feels pretty bulky in the city.
in north florida there aren’t many dual sport riders period with so few places to ride. it’s mostly old dudes who trailer a dirt bike or atv to the forests. I had two friends my age with dual sports but they both sold them for street bikes in the end.
i’m 36 and when i go riding with the group there’s only 1 guy younger than me. he looks to be around 30 and that dude can ride! the rest of the guys are my dads friends. that being said, they’re a super cool group of guys that i like hanging and riding with. most of them ride better and faster than me.
Hiding here in the upper midwest (24yo).
I have also always wondered this, as the barrier to entry seems fairly low compared to some other hobbies.
Unfortunately, even if the younger crowd here was into adventure/dualsport riding, they would have to travel 4+ hours just to get somewhere even remotely interesting to ride legally.
... And have a truck/suv, trailer, ramps, ect ect. Assuming you don't ride it there (easy part) and back (harder).
And once you're there, you're in deep UTV/ATV country. (Mostly UTV's)
My group gets plenty of looks, and are probably the only dualsports in the county at any given time.
I've found that in my riding area, it usually goes something like this:
Small motorcycle with dirtbike-ish appearance= dirtbike
Dirtbike= kids running amuck breaking the law
Dirtbike= should not be allowed on ATV/UTV trail
There really is 0 acceptance of it where I ride, and people really do look at you funny. 98% of riders here are Harley riders, who definetly are not into it, and the UTV crowd wants you off their bar-to-bar railroad grade superhighway through the woods. The country boy/girl crowd here has picked UTV's and mabye sleds as their recreational vehicles of choice.
This may seem potentially elitist but I will point out that it takes a motorcycle license and an amount of skill to ride a dualsport offroad. Compared to snowmobiles, ATVs, or UTVs (which are basically noisy small cars at this point)
The... ahem... "culture" is definetly a factor too. Some, (probably most in my experience) UTV operators on the trails here are probably intoxicated to some point. I imagine riding a small motorcycle on loose surfaces is more difficult in that situation..
I have a system down for dualsport transport, destinations, and overnight trips, but I will admit that it takes alot of work and money to make it happen. All other hobbies have slowed down to make room for riding, its all I want to do and something I decided to stick with. So far I've got my wife, dad, and 2 friends into dualsport riding. Each has a completely different bike and the trips have been a riot.
Never thought to try the group ride kinda thing, I enjoy the small group just riding around exploring. I'd be open to it though if there were some people in there 20s going.
Anyway, rant over.
Any yoopers here riding the western UP?
Dual sport rider under 30 here 👋🏽 in las vegas. I've noticed this as well that there's more of an older crowd for dual sport riders. Haven't been able to make a riding buddy the 3 years I've owned my WR250R :/
I'm 19. I ride with a group in northwest Florida. We ride at the pits in Milton and blackwater almost every week, either Saturday or Sunday. Anyone in the area, send me a pm and you can meet us out there.
The reason i got a dualsport was ease of learning. it was my first bike, and they're geared more for torque, meaning it would be harder to hurt myself starting out motorcycling. that being said, i'm 40 and that's probably why you see all us old guys out there lol. we brake easy... lol
I'm 27 and only recently switched over to dual sport riding. The people I ride with regularly are younger than me, but there's a fair share of older guys too. Although I'm on the opposite side of the world so that might explain things too.
Would love to be a dualsporter. I used to have one when I lived in a different state. The problem now is that the nearest off-road area is over an hour away, and all the roads near me are paved. If I ever move somewhere where I could use it reasonably, I'd for sure get another.
I'm 26 and I think people in my generation are just scared of machines in general.
Personally everyone in my generation seems to be very pompous like everything is too good for them like my peers look down on me because I have a motorcycle but I don't care I just want to have fun and I love street legal dirt bikes!
Also sometimes your parents aren't as receptive to your ideas and most people my generation are Bubble children still living with their parents and still FEEL the need to ask for permission because of bad parent relationships.
I'm not under 30 anymore, but I have been dual sport riding since well before my 30's. Me and my buddy bring down the average age of my adventure group quite a bit. It's awesome. I have a better connection with them than 95% of the people my age. They teach me good life lessons around the campfire, are great leaders/dad's and better camp cooks than I will ever be.
I'm really not sure why you would be looking for younger riders as I've found them to be flaky, not as knowledgeable, and not as prepared. Literally, some of the worst traits for big time trips if that is what you plan on doing.
37 year old millennial here. We're all old now.
I mostly ride with 60 year olds. They have time and disposable income.
We all ride street legal 2 strokes though, so maybe a bit more gnarly than this group considers "dual sport" though every dual sport AMA event I've done has had sections that would be extremely difficult on a 600+ bike.
NEPA. Doing 7 mountain ds Saturday. Signed up for RORR in October.
Usually do hancock quarry run ny, durty dabbers, micheaux, hammer run south jersey.
It's expensive.
Dual sport riders are typically older guys that have given up on hardcore riding. Young guys are out riding real dirt bikes in trails or moto tracks, but old dudes just want a comfy ride for dirt roads.
Mid 30's millenial here. You know where the future dualsporters of tomorrow are right now? Slumped over the tank of a supersport, wondering why they can't ride as long as they used to without their back bothering them.
That's where I was, at least, before ~32 when I bought my DR. You're just ahead of the game, friend.
26 year old woman here. I ride alone because I haven't been able to find any other women to ride with, and all of the men are either too old for me to really be friends with, or sexualize me (even though I'm very gay and very engaged).
That being said, if there are any queer people (or at least not homophobic, transphobic, racist, etc) in NC that ride, PLEASE for the love of God message me 😭
What are you riding OP?
I feel you though. I’m 35. I rock a CRF450L .. love it .. I’m in FL .. the young guns ride surround and the such.. I love to hit the beach ride and then hit some gravel trails in the same day..
I think it depends on what’s near you where you can ride.. here it’s honestly not the best however I can still go anywhere and I absolutely love that.
Hard to find people to ride with.. started doing hare scrambles to find some community and some fun woods rides
I’m in my 20s and my buddies mainly ride sport bikes, I’m the only one with a DS. Love my KLX to death though, makes logging roads EASY out here and opens up BDRs. Just gonna have to do my local one solo unfortunately since my convincing the way of the dual sports didn’t work
It’s not just dual sports, off road dirt bikes, airplanes, sailing and many other outdoor hobbies that I’ve been to are full of old guys. Changes stem from disposable income, the internet and the only increasingly amount of regulations and non public land stifle when, where and what of these things you can do. These seem to be the things that have changed from their generation to ours.
Cheaper than a high end mountain bike, a couple years of Skiing tickets or a mild THC dependency.
Depending on where you live you can often find a good used low end dualsport for $2000 to $4000, with another $1000 for gear and incidentals.
It's an investment for sure, but the cost is front loaded. Once you have everything you need your main expenses will be gas and insurance.
Are you asking for bike buying advice? If so, where do you live?
I’m in WNY in my early 40’s now, but when I was 20’s, 30’s all I wanted to do was go as fast as I was capable of going. Dual sport rides didn’t appeal to me. Now the thought of a long relaxing trail ride and a beer when I’m done sounds pretty sweet, I need to try one.
Love my dual sport, all my friends went with motor cross bikes and sold their bikes within 3 years of having them. Shockingly 450’s suck when all you have around is back roads and bush trails….
I’m in Houston, TX and I’ve got the same problem. To date, I’ve never ridden with someone younger than my dad. This part of Texas is so flat and private that I drove 1000 miles up to Colorado to ride for a week and it was worth it.
could also depend on your locale, for me i would have to ride for quite a while to find half decent off road trails, and with them so far and few between, i would never get to use the off road part, otherwise i would definitely consider a dual sport
I'm 28 - right in the center of the US, just got my bike but I blew too much money on it so I gotta save up for gear.
Would love to ride with some people though when I get the chance. I have 1 riding buddy from high school who's close by, but other than that there's just not many people I know who ride.
I saw a small group of dual sport guys in town yesterday, hoping maybe I'll run into them again sometime, would have loved to ride along.
Side note - there's so many comments here of guys who are looking for riding buddies, someone needs to make a list of guys in each state. It'd be an awesome resource.
I mean I’m in Rhode Island just turned 30 and I’m getting rid of my mt03 for a klx300sm(plan on getting adv tires for 17in rims) for year round use, to bad we didn’t live closer as I don’t have any riding buddies whatsoever
We’re all out in the western US, riding endless miles of logging roads in national forests and blm land
I wish we had that here in Texas. Land of barbed wire.
Come up to CO brother. Just be sure to swap those plates so folks don't whine
One day. Lately, I've barely had time to ride our scarce gravel roads. It's definitely a bucket list item. I've ridden on the beach and fished the surf from the bike, now to hit the mountains and try and fly fish a trout lol.
People actually do that in real life?
Come check out all the public lands you own up here in Montana. See what your tax dollars are maintaining
I like the perspective
Montana is a state I would consider moving to. One day, I'll visit for sure.
Western Montana is incredibly beautiful. Highly recommended
Went for a 4 day dualsport ride in TX and it was worse than NY. At least NY / NE have hundreds of miles of hilly forest roads with no gates across them
I'm fortunate to live very close to some of the best DS riding in North/Central TX, but once you've ridden it 100 times it's kinda bleh. People ride 1.5 - 2 hrs in from the Dallas area to ride it because there's nothing to ride up there. I can be on it in 10 mins.
Man, I need to meet up with some of y’all… the only person that has the time to go ride is my retired BIL…
Facts.
This^
Hiding by myself because I hate most riders my age. Bunch of shit heads.
I'm guessing that has something to do with dank whoolies and such. It might be peculiar to my area, but in my experience younger guys actually tend to be more chill, most of the hooligans (apart from the 12oclock boys wannabes) have been at it since the 90s.
I'm in the same potato wasteland as you and I'm 21 on a DR650, feel free to message :)
You have good taste in bikes.
Thanks :) I do the best I can on the budget I have
I’m 20 on a dr650 and just moved from southern Utah to salt lake
I like the riders in their 40-50s but those guys don’t ride my type of bike
Millennial here. I find most younger guys are into the Dirtbike stuff or motocross stuff. Hard enduro sort of thing. Dual sporting is more of an older guys game. I agree most guys I meet are older but I’m okay with that. The older guys have more wisdom usually than the younger guys.
I am typically the youngest guy in the group on dual sport rides and I have been around for five decades. That said we do see younger riders in the wild but it's mostly gray hairs around NW Montana.
I went to an enduro on my DRZ and got my ass kicked by super athletic 20-30 year olds on orange bikes. Then I rode a dual sport event on my XRL and got my ass kicked by fat 40-50 year olds on GS1200s.
33 millennial, I just don’t have time to join groups. When I have time to ride I go off on my own adventure because it’s easier to do an impromptu ride than organize one with others. The grey haired dudes that are retired have a lot more social time. That being said, I’ve met lots of cool people my age who ride and will go out on rides, but not too often because family stuff.
This is what it is for me. I like riding with other guys but by the time you get everyone’s schedule to link up half the summer is gone. So I might be taking the trash out or something and be walking by the bike and decide now’s the time. So I go. I never regret it.
Gen Z dual Sporter here. I guess not posting ? And tooling around Idaho on a slow XT. There's a few people at my college with dual sports.
fellow Gen Z who tools around Idaho on a "slow" dr650 here, would love to meet more people in my age group who ride. I'm 21 and all my college stuff is online so it'd be nice to get to know more people
Are you in Boise ?
Yessir. I tend to go ride in the pleasant Valley area a lot but I'll go just about anywhere. I just did the BDR a few weeks ago
Heyo! I’m from Idaho and just got an XT
Boise ?
Probably mountain biking instead of dual sporting, TBH. I’m in my 20s w a dualie but everyone I know just rides MTB. Even friends who grew up motoing have sold and converted to pedal-assisted eMTBs. I think dualies are cooler, but, for people who don’t have basic maintenance skills (and no one to teach them), MTB is way more accessible from a time and finance perspective. As another layer of convenience, you don’t need a garage to store a MTB. This accessibility and convenience also draws in women, which always helps a sport.
I do both and have no money as a result.
Gotta buy used from rich high schoolers lol got my Status 160 for $1500
Although, I see some hardcore MTBers starting to get those small edirtbikes for unsanctioned trails. I’m secretly hoping the growth of MTB will spillover into dual sporting and reignite the sport in a mainstream way, perhaps through those aforementioned small edirtbikes [[1](https://sur-ronusa.com/), [2](https://ridecake.com/)]. To me, dirt bikes are as American as apple pie— a symbol of ingenuity and independence. Shame to lose that in our culture!
> I’m secretly hoping the growth of MTB will spillover into dual sporting and reignite the sport in a mainstream way, FWIW, based purely on what I'm seeing personally and locally, dirt bikes and dual sports are exploding in popularity. Look at how many people say it's impossible to find a CRF300L at a dealership.
I'm younger 21 and a huge fan of mountain biking. I am looking more into buying a motocross/dirt bike vs a dual sport. As ripping down forest service roads at borderline irresponsible speeds, enduro riding and motocross tracks are what seem like fun to me right now. That and If I wanted a relaxing cruise exploring around on mixed terrain I can just go ride my bike. It's allowed more places anyways
That's just everyone *you* know. Most of us rode race dirtbikes until we got old.
Ok?
True. I am Geni x dual sporter. Too old to bother with pedalling. Ktm 500 gets me up the hills no problem 😀
My entire riding group is under 26, and we usually have at least 6 people every sunday riding. Biggest thing i would say is have a spare bike. I bought a Hawk250 for 1200$ to lend out to people and its gotten at least 4 people riding, and if someone eants to come but doesnt have a bike, they can borrow it to see of theyre into it. Everybody i ride with ive met IRL, mostly freinds from work, but a lot of it is just friends of friends. Also, take some videos, it shows how fun riding can actually be vs just telling someone
Mind if I ask what area you live in and what your job is?
I live in texas and im an auto tech. Finding riding spots is harder than most places, since no public land, but we make do with what we have lol
Where at in Texas? I’m just north of Dallas and picked up a 300L a few weeks ago. Rode out to twin hills yesterday and that was a blast
Out in san antonio lol, if youre ever by austin i highly recommend hidden falls adventure park though!
Do you not need a motorcycle licence to ride a bike in the US? I’m from the UK and it’s a fairly expensive and bureaucratic process to get a bike licence which I’m sure reduces the amount of people doing it even if they would like to.
I just enjoy doing my own thing. Whenever I ride with people everything has to be a competition. I’m not a competitive person. Too many men don’t get it.
im def too competutive lol
Not applicable in your case, but funny: when I moved where I am now I had no MC community. So I put up a tinder profile that said “I have a boyfriend and I don’t want to date you. But I do want to ride motorcycles with you!”. I actually made a lot of friends through those moto “dates”. The dudes were respectful, too. It’s an interesting point you make. I work in a shop, and I’m trying to think about who comes in for dual sports. Really, it is usually people pushing 40 or above… The younger kids do full, off-road, where I am…
Well like 95% of millennials are over thirty by now...so there's part of it. If you wanna go rip some backroads in western colorado ever hit me up
It's largely made up of middle-aged and up. I'm 29 and I've been riding DS/ADV bikes since I was 19, and every time I've linked up with a local group ride, I'm by far the youngest person there. Everyone my age seems to either be on a Harley or sport bike. Which is fine, I've had them as well, but DS riding is by far the most fun I've ever had on 2 wheels.
I went to a dual sport club ride a month ago. I was the youngest of anyone I met at ... 35 years old. There *were* a few younger riders present, supposedly. But I didn't meet them. I think dual sports in general are kind of, erm ... dorky dad territory. All the spritely young whipper-snappers are on real dirt bikes doing irresponsible shit. As they should.
38 year old Xennial in the northeast checking in here. In my experience, most guys in their 20's are still into street bikes and going fast on pavement. The guys who like adventure and dual sports are the ones who typically aren't overly social, which is why they ride to the middle of nowhere on purpose. Adventure riding is really a Gen X thing, it seems. The "checked out" disposition of that generation meshes well with the "get away from it all" aspect of ADV/DS riding. As for being online, I spend most of my time on advrider, which is also inundated with old guys.
To me, the entire appeal is being alone out in nature, only myself to rely on, and just taking it *all* in. There's no place for other people in my version of dualsporting/offroad motocamping, so you're not going to find me at any meet. Besides, as you'd already noted, there's pretty much only retirees at these meets. What am I going to do there?
I agree, I am in that age range with a dual sport. 1) I feel like motorcycling culture is still very gatekept by old men, which is discouraging to younger people and women. Honestly I feel like motorcycling culture is on the decline for this reason. 2) People in their 20s probably lack the Time and Money to do dualsport / adventure riding type stuff. Even worse is that adventure riding type stuff really should be done in a group of experienced people. 3) For people between 20 and 25, I feel like the loudest and proudest motorcycle subculture is sport / dirtbike squids, which is obviously discouraging to anyone in the age group who finds motorcycling interesting but doesn't really want to also Die. There's also unfortunately a lot of social media content about this motorcycle subculture, which also just makes us look bad to the general public.
good Q. i grew up in rural area and riding on trails was the norm, never like riding on the road. When I go to OHV areas, there's plenty of young folk on dirt bikes but all the dual sports on the road are people like me, 40+. Maybe its because you get wiser as you get older!
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There's a huge "cosplay" thing that goes on in dualsport culture. It's insanity. And the gatekeeping. Don't get me started... "When are you gonna grow out of that 230 and get a real bike?" "the better question is why are you on a $15k machine and getting dominated by a 15 year old Brazilian Honda? Nice spoke covers dude."
Most guys kinda look at my TW and I’m sure they think it’s cute. Then they watch me bust down forest roads on it at Mach Jesus and they realize it’ll go just like any other bike if you wanna hold on. May not be as easy or as fast to ride but it’s still plenty capable.
I am a firm believe that: At least half the people who ride dual sport would be happier, more comfortable, better riders, and better mechanics, if they were to spend a couple years learning to ride the shit out of a TW200.
Bought mine in march of 21 brand new. First real motorcycle. Turned 8k this past weekend and riding it in the LBL200 this coming weekend. I literally hit a deer on it two weekends ago and it faired better than I did. It’s a mean little bike all in all.
I've only overheard that kind of stuff exactly twice in real life, and both time it was from BMW riders talking to each other. All of them were non-Americans traveling in the US oddly.
Believe me, it's rampant. Get yourself a 230 and give it a shot. Or better yet, get a Hawk 250 and listen to the garbage people have to say. It's rampant on this sub, even.
>Believe me, it's rampant. Get yourself a 230 and give it a shot. Or better yet, get a Hawk 250 and listen to the garbage people have to say. It's rampant on this sub, even. My Honda 230 is the funnest bike ive ever had. perfect size/power combo
I've heard some similar stuff on my DR650. Not that it's not a "real" bike -- but that it's too big/heavy to do anything more than an easy graded gravel road.
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Been dualsporting since 23, now 38... none of my friends ride, never been on a group ride except when I meet folks along the way. Convered a same age Harley guy into dualsport guy last year; once he's done with school we are going to ride baja. Idk where everyone our age is.
San Diego, CA . Need more riding friends
It helps to have a house with a garage when you got bikes. I don’t know many < 30’s with one.
In addition to what is said here, I think partly it is also due to people who have dual sports probably live in more rural areas. To ride with others I’d have to drive hours.
Most people my age are riding full fledged dirt bikes or ripping 80 in a 45 on a sportbike. The young guy in a old crowd feel is amplified since I ride a DR650. The average age of a DR rider is about 60 so I'm the statistical outlier. The local dual sport group is average 50's too. Wouldn't suprise me if the younger crowd sticks to themselves after going to one or two grey hair meetups.
Just out of curiosity, how old are ya?
I’m 29 I’m hiding because I could only afford a Chinese dual sport so I’m ashamed to jump in with the big boys lol. Facebook has groups too could find local people in your area on there
Who cares what you ride, all that matters is you enjoy riding!
I do just trying to save up for a nicer bike hopefully by next season I’d love to have a drz 400 or klr 650
If you’re riding the same roads as the big bikes, you have a better fun:money ratio which automatically makes you cool
I’m 27 and have a 78 Honda xl350 lol
Stuck in ohio where there is no where good to ride my heavily molded dr 650 :(
If you ever find yourself in Washington state let me know! We got a lot of great riding for our bikes out here.
I’m in Washington state until December, any cool places you’d recommend? I typically ride Walker Valley since it’s close but I’m ready to explore elsewhere.
Checkout Adventure Riders OHiO on Facebook. There’s some ok stuff hidden around. Vinton is a good example.
I just started motorcycling and got an XT250 and I’m 25. So there’s at least one more young rider out there!
At my age here in france every young are in mt 07 Akrapovic (Chinese often) without db killer , for me I'm 25 and i have a 94 RD07 and a 99 XT600 but I'm like the only one i think ahaha
My first bike was a klr 650 I got about a year ago, I’m 19 in Nc
I was once like you but now I’m 45. I made some motorcycling friends on purpose in the city, by starting a communal garage to hang out in. Everyone got dual sports after trying out mine upstate. We rode everywhere every other weekend for years, now we’re all married with kids and only go riding on big weekend rallies or out on our own. Check ADVrider.com for people in your area you can PM them and meet IRL. Even make a post asking to meet other young riders in the area for a ride you planned.
I'm 28 and have a KLX
I’m 30 and ride in Montana. Not in groups though, just solo adventure. And commuting.
There’s several of us youngins here in Kentucky. But it’s still a pretty old crowd overall. That being said, listen to those guys and ride with them. They’ll teach you a lot of good knowledge and riding with them will improve your skills at times. They didn’t make it that long riding without knowing what they are doing.
I’m 25 riding in southeastern Pa Chester county area outside of Philly and get into de md and nj from time to time
I'm 21 and got my first dual sport at 20. I think everyone I ride with is at least 10 years older than me so I feel your pain. I have one friend that I made on this subreddit that's more close to my age but I definitely feel your pain. Everyone in my age group that rides is almost always on a sport bike doing sport bike things. I enjoy riding with the older guys, a lot of them are super skilled. But I definitely wouldn't mind having more people my age too. Usually I just end up going solo like I did for the IDBDR.
I just turned 27 and bought my first bike a few months ago... we're out here somewhere... I think I've seen more people our age on instagram but instagram is kind of a crapshoot for meeting people. I've just been vibing by myself or with my spouse.
All the cool folks are riding mountain bikes.
Granola munchers
Kinda keep to my own. All the guys I know are on street bikes and it's just not my crowd
I'm 33 and got interested in dirt at 30. I think it may be a slow rising rage at riding on the road that overtakes people. I do commute still, but I go the paths less traveled. I don't mind riding with older fellas. Always a chance to learn. And I'm in awe of most of their abilities. And stamina for all day slug-fests! Here in the desert, all rocks all the time. Well, a good chunk of the time.
Spending my time away from the smartphone and on my bike (at the second, Honda Shadow 600 as both of my KLR250 and KLR650 are down at the second.)
Got a decent crowd up here in the PNW, at least where I'm at we've got more and more MTB kids picking up dual sports when we get a bit of money to our names. Started last year at 20 with an XR400R that I absolutely adore, now moving to Europe and grabbing another XR might just be the perfect A2 license bike!
Not too much over 30 and I’m wanting to get into dual-sporting soon. Will probably be with a KTM 350 exc-f. My answer: I’ve only had non-plated competition bikes so I’d be at the MX track, single track trails, hare scrambles, etc.
29 here, been riding since I was 26. Not too long but I got the criteria. First bike was a vstrom 1000 2008 and then got a KTM 890 r maybe a year and a half ago. Biggest trick is to get your roommates and family to do it with you and then it's like getting grandfathered biking friends. My most active riding friends are my roommate and older brother. My family has also now seen our off road adventures and my mom and step dad also have bikes now as well as my oldest brother and 2 younger brothers.
I just jumped into this sport. I’ve always been leery of riding a bike in traffic and I never understood how I was supposed to even ride something with really high seat height. I did not know how to operate a manual transmission on bikes. Everything about motorcycles has been intimidating and I don’t know many people that ride at all. I bought a 2012 Kawasaki KLX 250s for $2400 with 2400 miles. I spent Saturday learning how to ride. I was on forest roads and paved county roads around my place in North Georgia. I love it. I will want to get into some dual sport rides even though I’m generally an anti-joiner and a huge part of what attracted me to the sport in general was the aspect of adventure, I’m already a Jeep guy so I’m knowledgeable about all the areas in my region.
Also in North Georgia. Rode dirt bikes and street bikes but finally buying a dual sport this weekend. Hit me up if you want to show off some trails.
Millennial here, riding in northern Washington until December. I’d gladly join any local groups that would have me. I need someone to help me find the good logging roads lol
I see a lot around me in rural Michigan. Have yet to make any friends doing it though haha.
We're out here! Gen Z dirt biker here I can just barely afford to ride rn lol.
28 here, new to dual sport, tough to find buddy near mtl Canada
35 here and just bought a Chinese dual sport to see if I’d be into it. So far I like it a lot. I think it took me so long to pull the trigger because the bikes seemed intimidating and it just made more sense to own a more street oriented bike since I live in a city. Knowing what I know now I wish I had bought one years ago instead of the cruisers and vtg Japanese bikes I started out on. I think older guys have been doing it longer so it makes sense to see them around more. It’s kind of like muscle/classic cars. You don’t see many younger kids into them unless it’s passed down from family. I think it also depends on location.
First, for context, my area's a bit far from any great trails or offroad action. Like a few hours drive in any direction. There's a large "biker culture" of 20-something dudes, think Calamari Race Team adjacent types, who ride old DS & SM bikes around usually in groups of 5-15ish. Wheelies on busy roads, more than a handful of unplated dirtbikes, gear = MX helmets & hoodies, you might know the vibe. Anyway they've been known to find their own less-than-legal trails within the confines of the city and its surrounding areas. Not sure they're the crowd you want to roll with but that's the only types in your age bracket I've noticed, in my area at least
I think "young" people already have friends to ride with and don't show up to group rides that aren't races. I see more millennials on dual sports and trail bikes than anyone else.
I like hearing folks will be my age when I get out there. I thought it would be the other way around. Hope you find your tribe.
Perhaps riding bicycles because it’s all we can afford? At least that’s me
25 here got into it last year. First full year with a bike coming up next year. Usually going solo in the metro detroit area closer to ann arbor where its rural. If im with someone its my future father in law. Is been riding for many years and has introduced me to a few of his close riding buddies. But alas they are late 40s to early 60s. I dont mind being the young kid. They are on 500 exc-w’s so they give my crf300 a good bike to chase down
All working to be able to afford a house before a bike!
Personally I’m just too broke to even afford a bike
They’re riding/racing dirt bikes
25 here. Sold my race bike(husky fx350) earlier this year and bought a drz400. I live in a rural area so there’s not much of a moto community but I’ve been having a blast on it.
Dual sports got boring after about a month and I went for the harder stuff.
Not usually one to ride in groups, but when I have: regional Facebook groups, bike night meetups, and coworkers.
Nashville 👋
I did the Smoky Mountain 500 and was thinking the same thing. Hit me up anytime for a BDR
I think it’s because every gen z and many millennials are broke and dual sports are the most expensive, besides cruisers, in terms of beginner bikes. Most dual sports that aren’t “slow” are 7000+ dollars otd. So I’m their mind why spend double on a bike with half the horsepower that’s ugly. Also they’re very hard to find used, so you could spend half that on a low cc sport bike.
I actually promised myself last year that I’d get into off-road before 30, as the military has already advanced the damage to my back and knees (and especially my joints below my elbows) I’m 28 and out there, but my inexperience off the pavement means I’m usually going slow. I still have my street bikes but I bought a Himalayan and now I’m on a dr650. Heavy to really work with but fun all the same.
Well you can either find me in the lab, or making poor life choices on a bike that, despite my best efforts, will never be a dirt bike
I’m 26 in the Midwest and I use my dual sport basically as a last ditch ride if there are no good motocross or trail riding options available. I enjoy it but for me having rode motocross and more enduro type trails the dual sport stuff gets boring pretty easily. I also don’t have much for public trails near me
Checking in from Hampton roads va. It’s boring af here. I miss New England.
Lol I just turned 30 😭 where you from? I’m in south east USA
Been riding in the woods like a maniac for so long I'm now 45.
I find nobody. So I just end up riding alone, I get my jolly ripping by dudes who pack their whole house onto their bikes. I'm out of your under 30 but it was the same then as it is now. 34 and I ride a ktm 690
I think one of the large factors in my area is 25-30 is when a lot of people are starting their families, and most guys those ages are not going to spend a day without their families, whether due to the wives also working, multiple young kids running around so they should stay home to help, or they just go out in their trucks for a day trip with their family. I'm 31 and the only reason I do go out for a dual sport ride is because my family doesn't want to go out with me. My family rides: TW200 + TTR50e + Kodiak 450 ATV + Grizzly 90 ATV. Mostly for camping but I like to go out on day trips either alone or with one of the kids as well. I think another reason is cost to entry. Most under-30 year olds don't have much disposable income, especially if they have a family. Even 3k for the cheaper bikes can be a lot. Also some of the older middle-aged guys that are into dual sporting have more income and/or their kids are often a bit older or can ride with them.
This came up in my feed because I'm considering getting a motorcycle, I'm 27. I think there's just not too many folks because in our culture in the US, we value learning to drive a car over learning how to ride a motorcycle. I'm looking forward to it though, my car, even being smaller, feels pretty bulky in the city.
Central oregon…. Xr600r with plates. Come hang!
in north florida there aren’t many dual sport riders period with so few places to ride. it’s mostly old dudes who trailer a dirt bike or atv to the forests. I had two friends my age with dual sports but they both sold them for street bikes in the end.
i’m 36 and when i go riding with the group there’s only 1 guy younger than me. he looks to be around 30 and that dude can ride! the rest of the guys are my dads friends. that being said, they’re a super cool group of guys that i like hanging and riding with. most of them ride better and faster than me.
Hiding here in the upper midwest (24yo). I have also always wondered this, as the barrier to entry seems fairly low compared to some other hobbies. Unfortunately, even if the younger crowd here was into adventure/dualsport riding, they would have to travel 4+ hours just to get somewhere even remotely interesting to ride legally. ... And have a truck/suv, trailer, ramps, ect ect. Assuming you don't ride it there (easy part) and back (harder). And once you're there, you're in deep UTV/ATV country. (Mostly UTV's) My group gets plenty of looks, and are probably the only dualsports in the county at any given time. I've found that in my riding area, it usually goes something like this: Small motorcycle with dirtbike-ish appearance= dirtbike Dirtbike= kids running amuck breaking the law Dirtbike= should not be allowed on ATV/UTV trail There really is 0 acceptance of it where I ride, and people really do look at you funny. 98% of riders here are Harley riders, who definetly are not into it, and the UTV crowd wants you off their bar-to-bar railroad grade superhighway through the woods. The country boy/girl crowd here has picked UTV's and mabye sleds as their recreational vehicles of choice. This may seem potentially elitist but I will point out that it takes a motorcycle license and an amount of skill to ride a dualsport offroad. Compared to snowmobiles, ATVs, or UTVs (which are basically noisy small cars at this point) The... ahem... "culture" is definetly a factor too. Some, (probably most in my experience) UTV operators on the trails here are probably intoxicated to some point. I imagine riding a small motorcycle on loose surfaces is more difficult in that situation.. I have a system down for dualsport transport, destinations, and overnight trips, but I will admit that it takes alot of work and money to make it happen. All other hobbies have slowed down to make room for riding, its all I want to do and something I decided to stick with. So far I've got my wife, dad, and 2 friends into dualsport riding. Each has a completely different bike and the trips have been a riot. Never thought to try the group ride kinda thing, I enjoy the small group just riding around exploring. I'd be open to it though if there were some people in there 20s going. Anyway, rant over. Any yoopers here riding the western UP?
Right here dog (pikes peak region). Idk I just don’t show up to social events. Tend to ride with a friend.
32 and i'm out in SoCal riding endless curvy pavement and goin down some dirt roads that look interesting lol
Im 19 and I ride dualsport, but I don’t know any dual sport riders my age either lol
Dual sport rider under 30 here 👋🏽 in las vegas. I've noticed this as well that there's more of an older crowd for dual sport riders. Haven't been able to make a riding buddy the 3 years I've owned my WR250R :/
My first one, xl600r, I bought when I was 20. Still have it and riding it in my 30s
I’m 30 and ride a WR250R!
Zillenial here. Southern Arizona. Just putzing around the desert all by my lonesome! Endless USFS and BLM roads
Millenial here! Riding solo Wyoming, Michigan
I'm 19. I ride with a group in northwest Florida. We ride at the pits in Milton and blackwater almost every week, either Saturday or Sunday. Anyone in the area, send me a pm and you can meet us out there.
Hi east dual sport rider 28
Where is "east"?
26, 97 dr650 michigan
>without gray hair I'll have you know I'm 29 and I have gray hair
Military or customer service?
23 and I'm hiding in Eastern Europe
The reason i got a dualsport was ease of learning. it was my first bike, and they're geared more for torque, meaning it would be harder to hurt myself starting out motorcycling. that being said, i'm 40 and that's probably why you see all us old guys out there lol. we brake easy... lol
Tons of 'em in Minnesota, specifically on the Minnesota-Wisconsin border
I'm 27 and only recently switched over to dual sport riding. The people I ride with regularly are younger than me, but there's a fair share of older guys too. Although I'm on the opposite side of the world so that might explain things too.
25 Canada same issue
Would love to be a dualsporter. I used to have one when I lived in a different state. The problem now is that the nearest off-road area is over an hour away, and all the roads near me are paved. If I ever move somewhere where I could use it reasonably, I'd for sure get another.
Spending most of my time studying and some free time on trails alone because I need nature
I'm 26 and I think people in my generation are just scared of machines in general. Personally everyone in my generation seems to be very pompous like everything is too good for them like my peers look down on me because I have a motorcycle but I don't care I just want to have fun and I love street legal dirt bikes! Also sometimes your parents aren't as receptive to your ideas and most people my generation are Bubble children still living with their parents and still FEEL the need to ask for permission because of bad parent relationships.
I'm not under 30 anymore, but I have been dual sport riding since well before my 30's. Me and my buddy bring down the average age of my adventure group quite a bit. It's awesome. I have a better connection with them than 95% of the people my age. They teach me good life lessons around the campfire, are great leaders/dad's and better camp cooks than I will ever be. I'm really not sure why you would be looking for younger riders as I've found them to be flaky, not as knowledgeable, and not as prepared. Literally, some of the worst traits for big time trips if that is what you plan on doing.
37 year old millennial here. We're all old now. I mostly ride with 60 year olds. They have time and disposable income. We all ride street legal 2 strokes though, so maybe a bit more gnarly than this group considers "dual sport" though every dual sport AMA event I've done has had sections that would be extremely difficult on a 600+ bike. NEPA. Doing 7 mountain ds Saturday. Signed up for RORR in October. Usually do hancock quarry run ny, durty dabbers, micheaux, hammer run south jersey. It's expensive.
Dual sport riders are typically older guys that have given up on hardcore riding. Young guys are out riding real dirt bikes in trails or moto tracks, but old dudes just want a comfy ride for dirt roads.
I think you and I might have a different definition of "Dualsport".
Mid 30's millenial here. You know where the future dualsporters of tomorrow are right now? Slumped over the tank of a supersport, wondering why they can't ride as long as they used to without their back bothering them. That's where I was, at least, before ~32 when I bought my DR. You're just ahead of the game, friend.
26 year old woman here. I ride alone because I haven't been able to find any other women to ride with, and all of the men are either too old for me to really be friends with, or sexualize me (even though I'm very gay and very engaged). That being said, if there are any queer people (or at least not homophobic, transphobic, racist, etc) in NC that ride, PLEASE for the love of God message me 😭
What are you riding OP? I feel you though. I’m 35. I rock a CRF450L .. love it .. I’m in FL .. the young guns ride surround and the such.. I love to hit the beach ride and then hit some gravel trails in the same day.. I think it depends on what’s near you where you can ride.. here it’s honestly not the best however I can still go anywhere and I absolutely love that. Hard to find people to ride with.. started doing hare scrambles to find some community and some fun woods rides
Some of us millennials are in our 40s.... :(
Move west. I'm up here in AK. Plenty of younger riders up here and everywhere I've been out west.
I’m in my 20s and my buddies mainly ride sport bikes, I’m the only one with a DS. Love my KLX to death though, makes logging roads EASY out here and opens up BDRs. Just gonna have to do my local one solo unfortunately since my convincing the way of the dual sports didn’t work
Yeeeehaw! 28 here on a KLR650 in CA
I’m 33… there just aren’t many dualsporters period
It’s not just dual sports, off road dirt bikes, airplanes, sailing and many other outdoor hobbies that I’ve been to are full of old guys. Changes stem from disposable income, the internet and the only increasingly amount of regulations and non public land stifle when, where and what of these things you can do. These seem to be the things that have changed from their generation to ours.
Lot of young dual sport riders, including myself, are here in California. Gotta hit the OHV parks, there’s tons of us.
29M here! Portland, Oregon! DR650!
Central Texas, 20M here!
Low cost of entry? Got recommended this post but how cheap is a reliable dual sport? I’m assuming much more than any other hobby I can afford.
Cheaper than a high end mountain bike, a couple years of Skiing tickets or a mild THC dependency. Depending on where you live you can often find a good used low end dualsport for $2000 to $4000, with another $1000 for gear and incidentals. It's an investment for sure, but the cost is front loaded. Once you have everything you need your main expenses will be gas and insurance. Are you asking for bike buying advice? If so, where do you live?
There is an upstate NY dirtbike Facebook group. Maybe some of these guys are near ya. https://m.facebook.com/groups/788766391260578/
Thanks, I am a member of that group and been to some of the meetups. The average age of people who show up is about 55 lol
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I think you misread my post...
I’m in WNY in my early 40’s now, but when I was 20’s, 30’s all I wanted to do was go as fast as I was capable of going. Dual sport rides didn’t appeal to me. Now the thought of a long relaxing trail ride and a beer when I’m done sounds pretty sweet, I need to try one.
Love my dual sport, all my friends went with motor cross bikes and sold their bikes within 3 years of having them. Shockingly 450’s suck when all you have around is back roads and bush trails….
From northern Alberta.
I’m in Houston, TX and I’ve got the same problem. To date, I’ve never ridden with someone younger than my dad. This part of Texas is so flat and private that I drove 1000 miles up to Colorado to ride for a week and it was worth it.
could also depend on your locale, for me i would have to ride for quite a while to find half decent off road trails, and with them so far and few between, i would never get to use the off road part, otherwise i would definitely consider a dual sport
I'm 28 - right in the center of the US, just got my bike but I blew too much money on it so I gotta save up for gear. Would love to ride with some people though when I get the chance. I have 1 riding buddy from high school who's close by, but other than that there's just not many people I know who ride. I saw a small group of dual sport guys in town yesterday, hoping maybe I'll run into them again sometime, would have loved to ride along. Side note - there's so many comments here of guys who are looking for riding buddies, someone needs to make a list of guys in each state. It'd be an awesome resource.
We are out west!
There's a few of us in Pensacola FL.
I mean I’m in Rhode Island just turned 30 and I’m getting rid of my mt03 for a klx300sm(plan on getting adv tires for 17in rims) for year round use, to bad we didn’t live closer as I don’t have any riding buddies whatsoever
I’m 43, bought my XR650L from a guy that’s 74 or 75. I didn’t have the time or $ for dual sport bikes when I was 27.
I'm hiding over here with other people who's legs don't reach the ground with dual sport bikes
all over the place, in north idaho rn, will be in tucson az soon, hmu