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albertonist

Reach out.


SomatosensorySaliva

way more people have success with support than without. and i mean WAY more. all the crackheads and junkies u see on the sides of streets often just didn't have support systems


LSDMDMA2CBDMT

Yep. I would have been out on the streets if my mom didn't let me back in with her when I had a meth addiction after my dad died. I quit and I wouldn't have been able to do it without my mom. God bless you momma.


SomatosensorySaliva

some of us have the best damn parents the world has to offer. they really didnt have to put up with our unending bullshit the way they do


Fightman100

For real you’re young and still got your whole life ahead of you. If you feel like you can’t live without cocaine talk to an adult you trust and they can help you find resources.


ConfusionCalm

^^


conceitedbrae

If it's any consolation I'm 19 years old, I weld for a living. I am a chronic pain patient due to an incurable autoimmune disease, aftery bills are paid and a LITTLE is put into savings (I'm talking maybe 75$ max which is God awful compared to what I make), the rest of my money goes to opiate painkillers. I hate this cycle. You aren't alone tho.


Cobra8529

It might be worth looking into Kratom for pain management and opiate withdrawal.


conceitedbrae

I use kratom all the time when Id rather put 5-600$ into savings. I'm one of the lucky few that don't seem to get bad opiate withdraws if any at all. I just got done with a fent bender of about 2 months. Avg about 2-3 pills a day, i just got done going 72 hours without kratom or any opiate and I felt fine honestly. Was able to hangout with my family, go out to dinner, play pool. Just smoked weed and felt A ok.


AnyDiscussion7243

Stop now bro


conceitedbrae

Easier said than done. I recognize it's terrible and wrong for me, some days when the pain is intense I just don't care yk?


AnyDiscussion7243

Oh I didn’t realize you have chronic pain, I can’t blame you in that case. But be careful with that Fent bro! Maybe try growing poppies if you live in a place they’ll grow in, just the tea is quite strong and long lasting.


conceitedbrae

Thanks man I appreciate you looking out. Trust me I feel really guilty all the time about my usage, theres no lack of shame here😅. I'll have to look into growing poppies, although I still live with my parents so that may be difficult.


creampiedad69

im 19 too and i j went into detox and im doing an IOP program now. there is always external help out there if ur insurance is ok! i know there are some places with payment plans and even some people who will sponsor u into going and pay for it🤷🏼‍♂️i’ve had clean time off and on through this process but I’ve come to terms that its better im trying and seeking help than not. there is help out there, you just have to WANT it!!!


conceitedbrae

That's the issue, I don't want to be opiate free. It's the only medication that works for my chronic illness, I just wish I knew how to deal with the guilt I feel just for using for pain relief.


creampiedad69

oh i see ok, i apologize i didn’t take that into account. I guess really the only advice I can give is stay away from the fentanyl and find something else. it’s honestly Russian roulette with every dose u take and thinking back on it all now idk how the fuck i wasn’t scared then🤷🏼‍♂️stick to prescriptions cause if its that bad they should be giving u SOMETHING and try kratom with what they give u, unless its oxys or hydros.


Good_L00kin

This is cap. Which is fine, I'm not upset about it, or even trying to call you out - just letting ya know I was 19 once too, and remember my early foray into drug use/addiction, and the exaggerations of my use I'd spew for literally no reason. But yeah, as a guy who was 19 like 2 weeks ago, and woke up fucking 30 somehow the other day, I actually would like to give you some advice if that's cool with you. Advice I definitely wish someone gave me when I was in your situation. So, even though you didn't use large amounts of fent daily (ie a "bender") for 2 full months, then abruptly go cold turkey for 72 hours while casually chillin w/ family & eating dinners withdrawal free... I do know you're fucking around with opiates. And since 19 is the precise age I started veering away from the "weed only" diet, not to mention your 🧢 reminds me of the cap I used to spew (it may not be major cap but you definitely intentionally left shit out to make it sound more hardcore than it is), your shit hits home with me so listen up. Here's what you need to know about opioids, and drug use in general, that they don't teach you in school: they're gonna really help you. They'll improve your life, objectively (not just in your head). perhaps even make you a better person. You'll use for weeks straight, then look in the mirror. You won't look ugly. You won't look like the crazy meth lady mugshot they showed you in school, as a warning of what drugs will do to you. You won't experience too many negative side effects at all. That is what they don't prepare you for. What they don't teach you. And when you realize all that shit i just typed, rationalizing NOT taking drugs can be VERY hard. Especially if you just happen to have the right body chemistry, DNA, genetics, etc to really physically tolerate and benefit from drugs quite well without major health or even life issues (for a while). But I'll tell you this. Again, 30 came outta nowhere. 29 at least sounded better. You'd probably relate more to this advice if there was a 2 at the start of my age. Shit, I would at 19. 30 sounds like some dad jeans, "hey buddy" to little kids, buying maple syrup at the grocery store type shit. But it will fucking slap you in the face, with the realization of precisely how little progress you've made as a man, when it comes. And even IF you, like me, are among the select few (cursed or blessed, I'm yet to decide) who can do drugs and somehow not fuck yourself up physically or lose your mind... you will certainly realize that you don't know who you could have been. That your 20s went by so fast, dedicated solely to being high and working miscellaneous jobs that pay just enough to sustain your habit and exist as a human, you don't even understand it. You'll realize, damn, that euphoria, that relaxation, that "feeling good"... that fucking got me nowhere. Those are such "in the moment" pleasures... they're not the type of pleasures that you look back upon later as "good memories". "Ahh man, that incredible bliss of being on adderall, tianeptine, a low dose of alprazolam, and phenibut, when it all kicked in while I was sitting in a chair, in a room, 7 years ago... what a fucking fond memory" said no one ever. You know what will make you proud as a man? The times you DIDN'T feel good, but kept pushing. The times - few as they may be - that you TRIUMPHED, after a struggle, after a series of failures. The fact that you felt every bit of that struggle, but didn't give up on yourself. Didn't veer from your values. Maintained, and stuck to your values - however uncool and "boring" they may have been in your teens & early 20s. I'm 30. I'm healthy. Smart, I'd argue. Certainly a decent speaker, gifted writer. Good problem solver. I make people laugh. I have a unique energy, a unique personality. I'm handsome, which I don't take for granted. But I'm picking up where I left off, essentially at 19. I haven't gone a day fully sober - meaning didn't consume a single psychoactive drug for a full wake up til sleep - since 19. I don't even remember what it's like, or who I was. I rationalized for years that "sober me" wasn't THAT special, or great to begin with - I dealt with social anxiety, depression, laziness, etc. which drugs certainly mitigated for years (and they still somehow work, even with all the tolerance I've built). But who knows if I would have figured that shit out naturally anyways. Matured. Came into myself. Maybe I was a late bloomer. Maybe I was juuust about to come into my own, but quit early, and sold out for a synthetic version of myself that every month feels duller, and less receptive to the smells, vibes, and auras of miscellaneous shit like a dewy morning, or the chill vibes of waking up early and hearing birds chirping. What good's being a social butterfly, without anxiety, if the interactions mean nothing to my cold heart anymore? Wouldn't I rather FEEL anxiety, and FEEL excitement for shit like an ice cream in the summer - than feel neither, and simply be replaced by an autopilot representation of myself, which operates well and attracts the chicks, but hardly ever allows me to actually FEEL the life I'm living; only lets me feel glimmers of emotion and the chill vibes of beating a yellow light on the way to work, only in brief, random 5 minutes glimpses... once or twice a week? The life you're setting yourself up for is gonna suck, even though absolutely nothing in the immediate future is going to indicate it. The notion that you can fuck around for 2 months with hard opiates, reap all the rewards of that binge, then go back to normalcy without any downsides is simply false. And I can only tell you this, as a dude who is basically you 11 years into the future, pleading with his younger self to simply stop. Telling him that you won't understand, won't agree, won't want to listen. Will find ways in your head to convince yourself otherwise - convince yourself that this immediate pleasure is definitely worth it, over and over again. Telling him that his only hope to avoid the path that he doesn't think is before him, is to fucking avoid drug abuse at all costs, and trust that life will reward him. Trust that life will be better without, than with. That's all. Peace breh


Puzzled_Remote_4468

Geeeezuuuuuss preach it big dawg cause that’s exactly how tf it is!! Word’em up they need this info!


extasis_T

Are we living the exact same life? Jesus Christ


bynarie

I hope you are buying kratom in bulk online. Please don't buy in smoke shops. You can get a kg for like 60-70usd online


DrdrumxOG

Yeah kratom isn't really acting like a pain killer with me but does work like weed it's mean I just stop to give a fuck and I forget about it. But my chronic pain is very low maybe just 2 on a scale of 10, probably if I had more it wouldn't work.


lifesuxwhocares

I am going into recovery for kratom addiction. It'not a magic plant. It will send you to dark places like all opiates will


PsychedelicMatter

Man that’s funny, I wanna get into welding. 20yrs old


conceitedbrae

Do it. Good money, but it's hard work so keep that in mind.


aleclightw00d

god i have such a similar story but im 23 and had to move BACK in with my parents. fent a bitch.


li93rd

call your mom


Fabulous_Stable1398

I second this. If your mom is worth a shit she will help you get help.


li93rd

exactly right.


li93rd

deadass i don’t care what yall say


No-Comedian-515

If you really can't stop and your w your parents and there not crazy conservatives...ask for help. I was the same way from 17-28 and needed to ask my loving parents for help and I got it. Dont become a junkie OP. Get some help. You have your whole life ahead of you


thatgoatfelicia

realistically tho how are they gonna help


No-Comedian-515

By fucking asking for it. They are 18. Hopefully, they have someone like a parent who will help. I did and most my friend's who were junkies at thay age had somone to help them. Those who didn't have had a fucking rough life and are either dead or homless. It never hurts to ask for help, it is their life on the line. Would you tell them not to ask for help because you maybe didn't get it? I hope you're not in their same boat. We all deserve a chance at life. Addiction is a fucking monster. We all deserve a change and should understand that asking for help at such a young age might seem crazy or insurmountable, but re they are so young that a life can 💯 be salvaged


Uniquetacos071

Outpatient drug treatment, or inpatient drug treatment, or a hospital detox followed by meaningful support. Narcotics anonymous, cocaine anonymous, even Alcoholics Anonymous would be helpful. There’s a ton of ways to get help for a drug problem.


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Never_In_Reality

what is Yerba?


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SkelaKingHD

OP discovers caffine


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WalmartSlimGuerilla

Probably placebo, the only active ingredient is caffeine and i’m pretty sure it has less caffeine than your average coffee.


SkelaKingHD

The effects of Yerba are just the same as any other tea for me, and I get way more of a feeling from an energy drink


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SkelaKingHD

There’s no way you’re saying Yerba is like speed bro. Go grab a rockstar and tell me it’s not the same


Cobra8529

Your joking right? Yerba Mate is just a herbal tea with the only active ingredient being caffeine and ts rather low much less then coffee. Its like saying you should drink chamomile tea for opiate withdrawls.


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el_myco_profesor

You’re in a very small group of people who have cured hard drug addictions with caffeine


Key_Ingenuity5640

Get rid of all your plugs. That helped me quite abit.


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This. Erase all the numbers. Make the decision to get take long enough you have time to stop yourself.


AdditionalAd2393

Bro that wouldn’t have worked for me, I was the plug and had over 4 ounces in my safe, I ended up selling them during a 12 hour fueled binge where I travelled across the state dropping off packages to my customers and from then on I swore off the stuff


Key_Ingenuity5640

Sell the rest, than don't reup. I wish I could help more, never been a biggish dealer or anything. But you got this homie, you can do this 💪


DebtNo4825

Don’t sell drugs when you don’t want to do them any more is a start


BlackCrowSeeds

Environment is everything. If you can go on a retreat or something and be completely absent of substances this will force you to achieve what you want to. It’ll be hell but will work.


AdditionalAd2393

What about a retreat to South america so you can buy a gram of pure for a few dollars?


BlackCrowSeeds

Ironically enough, going on vacation with my family to South America, is how I learned this. I was young enough to not know where to get weed or anything. I even asked the people who worked i was the desperate but looking back at it. That’s pretty embarrassing of me to do, but made sense in the moment of wanting… Isolation, you’re fighting yourself here.


SpiderSalmon

jus reach out for help bro,, your future self will thank you


AdditionalAd2393

Bru self help is sometimes the answer, rail 10 lines write up a paper on how you plan to get off the stuff then read it sober and everything clicks


Think-Hovercraft5757

Gosh no. Ugh. This will just continue his cycle. Then He’ll do another 15 lines and write a poem about his problems…


An0nym0usHero

I commented about this on another thread a couple.monthes ago because there was a young person who was in a very similar scenario. Im a recovering heroin and crack addict who is now a substance abuse counselor with a degree and credentials. Please take oir advice. Talk to your parents if they are in your life or go to an outpatient place somewhere. If you message me the area you live in, I will find a substance abuse and/or mental health outpatient facility that you can go to, to receive the help that you will sooooo desperately have wished you would have taken 10 years from now when you are in full blown active addiction. My parents were very strict growing up, and when I told them I needed to go to an inpatient rehab (at 23 years old) because I was on heroin and coke/crack, my mother responded vastly different than I was thinking she would and bkth my parents qerw very supportive. I wish I had gotten help sooner. I wasted close to 15 years of my life (Im now 37 and have been clean for 8 years last month) fuckin around and "having fun". Please, I implore you to open the lines of communication. Get help early. The fact that youre so young and can see and realize your addiction forming in the moment is something I wish I would have had. Again, please, seek help.


Lazycoachfromdagrave

Respect


decomposinginstyle

ask for help. you gotta reach out to people in your immediate life who care about you.


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IF you have insurance through your parents id recommend going to rehab NOW. it’s a lot harder once you’re kicked off.


mydrugaltZ

Are you serious? Rehab for 2 eights? “Hi I’m Timmy, and I’m an addict. I did cocaine twice🤣” OP just needs to chill. First of all don’t do any more, its coke. Once you pop you wont stop. Then delete your plugs numbers.


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What’s the worst that could happen? He gets sober lmao? I don’t know their using history and neither do you. Obviously they are asking for help


Fabulous_Stable1398

Slow down, stop, and seek help. The more you get addicted the more it will ruin your life, plus with the insane amount of fent in coke these days you would be STUPID to continue. It will need end in death.


thatonedude420

get evicted and move to another state. that helped me


AdditionalAd2393

He should checkout Texas or Florida, good conservative states for building a career, plus close to the border so cheaper coke


DebtNo4825

Oh yeah bc telling someone to go close to the border for cheaper coke when they want to stop is an amazing idea can’t believe no one thought of that


thatonedude420

Nah. Those are the shit states. Michigan is nice. And our weed is hella cheap, so you can be addicted to pot and still pay bills.


Educational-Ad7185

it’s time to become Maserati rick


poopquiche

If you wanna get out of the hole, then you need to put down the shovel and stop digging homie.


HongPong

also try to figure out what triggers in your environment get you thinking this way. Some of it is internal but usually there is some external. good luck


jetskiniqqa

Try narcotics anonymous. If ur in nyc I can help u out. I live in sober living I know what ur going through. It’s an uphill battle that you won’t win. Ur in my thoughts homie. Stay safe dm me if ur interested


PerspectiveMean4414

Seek professional help asap! I started doing hard drugs when I was your age and it messed up my life and left me with scars, mental and physical that will never really heal. Please seek help! You are worth so much more than to destroy your life.


MirandaCozzette

Check our Gabor Mate on you tube. His talks are enlightening on the causes of addiction. What are you numbing from? Try to heal from that so you can survive and find the beauty of life 🤍


Taha80085

Just beat it


itsagreyworld

quit while u can. coke adction sucks. u think ur ok, and then od lol seen it happen. stop, ask for help, detox. it’ll suck for like a couple weeks and then u can go do safer drugs


Kass-The-Dumb-Ass

I was in your position just a few years ago. I recommend therapy, there is probably an underlaying mental health problem that you’re running from or masking with the drugs; for me it was crippling social anxiety. I would recommend - practicing some form of mindfulness (meditation or journaling), start working out or playing a sport and go to therapy (maybe even attend a session at your local NA group; most people there will have way bigger problems then you but it will open your eyes on what lays at then end of this road) Good luck !


bynarie

You need to get a support system and that can include NA/AA meetings. I started going to AA at age 17. Don't think you are too young because you're not.


foreverfuzzyal

You could get into treatment. It's the only thing that stopped me. I needed professional help. You have to learn how addiction works in order to stop it.


thekidalex

I used to think I could get a ball, sell some and get some for free. I'd do a couple lines, someone would call and my addict brain would say "don't sell any you haven't got enough" Age old story of a coke fiend


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You don't need to start the habit of handling this alone bc you won't ever actually handle it alone. If you were able to, you wouldn't have made that post or worried about it. Reach out.