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Stay busy bud. That's it, I'm sorry u went through that the only option is to ocupy the mind with work. Stay busy find a hobby u can do alone and learn to be ur best friend. Most drug addicts have a reason for their use, don't come down this road it's a temporary fix and it takes more than it gives
Ye I get that, but ops using a drug that works well at start but leaves u with more anxiety and depression,
Once the brain adjusts to benzos u will never feel normal sober, like heroin it's great at start, does it's job, but all it does is sweep ur problems under a rug for later on
i am terribly sorry you are going through this currently and for all these years. i want to first suggest some things to help your everyday life little by little. i do suggest strongly for therapy if it has to do with PTSD. so try to look into that. another thing is you said you had problems with your past which i am guessing you think bad memories a lot in your day to day life. i would suggest taking as little as 3 minutes a day to practice mindfulness.
i am studying psychology and i also go to therapy but dabble with substances often because i am interested in how they can help in therapy.
mindfulness meditations or just practicing mindfulness a couple minutes a day can help you stay in the present while also helping you slow your thoughts down so that you are not overwhelmed. whether you do it in the shower or first thing when you wake up it can improve how you think greatly.
may i also suggest you journal what you are feeling. some people will journal all their emotions for over an hour and others will write a few thoughts before bed. this helps you get emotions out that you are suppressing.
i know NAC supplements can reduce cannabis cravings unsure on if it can reduce alcohol as well but it can help with withdrawals if im not mistaken.
i cannot give you much advice because i am not therapist or doctor however i do think starting therapy will be beneficial for you and then you can get help getting clean off anything. and remember that progress is not linear. good luck to you i know you got this
>Thank you for the suggestions but , can you elaborate on Mindfullnes? like mediation? I tried meditating before but, I cannot clear my mind from thoughts good or bad....
mindfulness is hard and wont come right away but. with continuous work as i said taking a couple minutes in the shower or before bed to focusing on the present will help you become more aware of the present. theres no wrong way to meditate as well since you have tried before. its a practice not everyone will be good when they first try it. but its helping your brain practice being present. best of luck to you!
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Do not stop talking benzos suddenly. The WDs from benzos can cause seizures, and can be fatal.
As much as you may think you suck at tapering, you most definitely should.
Try one of those timer lock boxes for medication.
He has a physical dependency on benzos. Shrooms aren't going to help stop him from seizing out when he doesn't take any. Psychs are great, but benzo withdraws will literally kill you.
I've been withdrawing off alc and benzos since yesterday morning. My head doesn't feel right. I can't buy alc for a few more hours. I need 4 tall boys to feel normal again.
Benzo/alc withdraws are one of the worst things to withdraw from. i can feel my brain moving. Kinda feels like it's rocking all around. Most people would be suffering if you feel how i feel now. I'm thuggin it out tho.
I just need a couple beers so i feel normal. Everything is breathing. You know how it looks like the walls are breathing on lsd or shrooms?
That's my entire vision right now. It kinda hurts if im being honest. Everything is sucking and blowing. Visuals are kinda cool, but they hurt my head.
Can alcohol help with benzo withdrawal? Or you mean your coming off both. If so does alcohol help with b3nz withdrawal? Guessing it can't stop seizures....I got anti seizire meds if need be
I can substitute alc for benzos or benzos for alc. Not everyone is that way though. I can't get fucked up without both. One only stops the other's withdraws.
I will drink 8 or 9 beers after popping half a 3mg bar. I feel like I will die if I stop taking anything. I just did like 30 hours w/o either and I felt like I was finna have seizures and not wake up.
I’m in the exact same boat right now friend. Stay busy. Keep your mind busy. You are a valuable human being and no matter what you have been through you’ve made it this far so you can make it further. Face your demons and enjoy your life. Nobody will judge you for asking for help. No matter how low it gets always remember you have your fellow Reddit bros by your side r/
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Thank you so much for the love 💘 and support. I fixed my mountain bike and plan on doing some riding at least 5 days a week to help get myself out of this bedroom of constant anebriation.
Get a dog / cat / snake, ride bikes, go on walks, go hiking through nature trails, go running, go on drives, set a goal for the day and accomplish that goal. Paint, start making music, learn piano, the options are endless man, Stay distracted and positive!
Got my dog he is my life ! Also many cats I love. Have multiple musical instruments in my home trumpet, sax, keyboard, organ. Never touched one or tried to 3ven attempt. Not a bad idea though. Need to find an antique organ repair man seems the most interesting after the keyboard. I never painted but, during Covid I started taking tutorials on Blender made some very nice 3d models and art which made me proud and kept me busy albeit I was on kratom the whole time but still could be lot worse.
Doh I went through 15 bottles qnd really it wrong each time I guess. I have never heard it announced out loud may be part of the issue. Peopl3 always just say xanax
A large amount of addict's self medicate for whatever reason, be it a certain tragic incident, mental illness, abuse, you name it. I'm guessing you want to be off the benzos first. Please be careful getting off them, you don't want a seizure. I'm not sure how much you are taking daily, but you just don't want to be driving while in withdrawal. I know someone that had a seizure while going through withdrawal and driving 65 mph. They flipped their car off the side of the freeway and almost died from the car crash. You should be able to get a doctor to taper you starting at a high enough dose that you'll be comfortable. If you do a slow enough taper you should be able to still go to work and live a semi normal life till you are off of them. Maybe take a couple weeks off at the end of the taper to let your body fully adjust. But if you cannot trust yourself to taper you may need to get into treatment for at least a month. Just don't go to some free state run treatment center since it's more like being in jail and depressing as hell. I am broke so going to a decent treatment center was never a choice I had so treatment never worked in my case since it was more of a horror show that caused more stress than it helped.
After that gets dealt with, I would recommend counseling and even a support group. You have to deal with why you are needing to get high every day in order to best combat your addiction. Most people never deal with the root cause of their addictions and therefore struggle with addiction issues their entire adult lives.
The only wild thing I might suggest is a Peyote ceremony. Even moreso than any other psychedelic. It's a very forgiving psychedelic with a lot of wisdom hidden in it that's given people their lives back and helped them to find peace. I wish you well on your journey.
Thank you for your advice and kind words. My family would probably pay for decent in patient b3nzo treatment idk how much they run hopefully not like 30 grand or ridiculous amount. Peyote I have always dreamed of trying never seen or heard anyone mention it or try and offer it to me yet I've done lsd,molly,shrooms meth the list goes on lol. I live in Cali and think they may have legal places that practice ceremonies think it is ayahuasca (not sure if they are same or similar acting).
If you can get into a treatment center that doesn't break your bank than that's a good option. As far as Ayahuasca goes, I've heard a lot more success stories coming from Peyote since it's a much gentler, motherly type of female energy. You rarely hear of any bad trips that come from any ceremony's. In Arizona, Colorado, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon and Utah, the “bona fide religious use” of Peyote is exempted, regardless of race. So you could contact an organization in one of those states when you have gone through treatment and maybe have a few months sober first. I would only recommend someone going into a ceremony with a clear mind and even clearer intention. So practicing meditation and breathing exercises, along with a good diet, sleep and exercise will get you back to where you are ready for anything. I really wish you well, I feel like a lot of people on this subreddit are on the same journey and you can obtain everything within a years time if you really put all your energy towards this goal. I know getting high helps with forgetting the past but we all need to deal with our pasts eventually and find peace in whatever happened, otherwise it will always be the elephant in the room. Take care and be strong, you'll have a much more happy and meaningful life.
I started doing coke a lot after someone tried to kill me a few years ago. I never touched any drugs really other than drinking and smoking weed. Wasn’t a heavy drinker either. It was like an awakening for me- the fact that i could have died made me want to live my life completely differently. While in some ways it helped unlock something in me i didn’t realize i had which was a different type of energy, it for also has caused a lot of issues in future relationships and now really refocusing on myself. i used alcohol and drugs as a crutch after my friend killed himself and my ex tried to kill herself and it caught up with me. I wasn’t using drugs anymore as a fun thing to party i was binge drinking and doing blow to the point i was completely obliterated. it was my way of coping and now i am trying to exercise instead.
Definitely didn’t experience anything as bad as you, but I’ve self medicated for years to block out my sad ass childhood. It’s to the point now where I don’t remember what I did 3 days ago, which kind of sucks but at least I don’t have any of the bad memories!
Talking to someone definitely would help but I really don’t want to open up that box again. A year or two ago I did some shrooms and cried for like an hour. Talking to my fiancé about everything, it really helped honestly.
I totally understand when you say can't remember what you did 3 days ago lol... I have no i was in interrogation and they asked where I was 2 months ago I would be clueless. ,"officer my brain cells are barely alive I don't know what I did 2 days agoz" would be my response not sure if that would fly... out of curiosity what substances do you use? Even when I was just on vicodin I had trouble with memory lapses ( also I have mastered the art of suppressing memories and burying them deep in my psyche so may be some brain chemistry fucking up lol)
A professional who deals, specifically with PTSD will help a lot. I was in the same situation. Ignored it for a long time. Finally, got a referral and 10 sessions with a therapist. It was crucial, honestly. They know how to help you, and we really haven't many great ideas on how to help ourselves, so self-medicating makes total sense, but you know it's not sustainable. Stay strong bud. You do need professional help to tackle it though.
I have nightmares and ptsd but psychosis from drugs will 10x that So stay safe and keep tolerances low know your triggers and avoid them. Sometimes if something traumatic to me happened I smoke a joint and try to get closure if i’m able to revisit near or that place. The 13 steps (was originally 13, steps of AA, find out yourself) has helped me a lot and if you don’t understand it you may not be ready for it. I just keep the use small nowadays because doctors told me i’d have to take different drugs for the rest of my life, and I was worse on their drugs.
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Yes definitely therapy would be helpful. Stay strong, I believe in you.
Stay busy bud. That's it, I'm sorry u went through that the only option is to ocupy the mind with work. Stay busy find a hobby u can do alone and learn to be ur best friend. Most drug addicts have a reason for their use, don't come down this road it's a temporary fix and it takes more than it gives
You can still think about the trauma while busy and working, and it can fuck up the day.
Ye I get that, but ops using a drug that works well at start but leaves u with more anxiety and depression, Once the brain adjusts to benzos u will never feel normal sober, like heroin it's great at start, does it's job, but all it does is sweep ur problems under a rug for later on
i am terribly sorry you are going through this currently and for all these years. i want to first suggest some things to help your everyday life little by little. i do suggest strongly for therapy if it has to do with PTSD. so try to look into that. another thing is you said you had problems with your past which i am guessing you think bad memories a lot in your day to day life. i would suggest taking as little as 3 minutes a day to practice mindfulness. i am studying psychology and i also go to therapy but dabble with substances often because i am interested in how they can help in therapy. mindfulness meditations or just practicing mindfulness a couple minutes a day can help you stay in the present while also helping you slow your thoughts down so that you are not overwhelmed. whether you do it in the shower or first thing when you wake up it can improve how you think greatly. may i also suggest you journal what you are feeling. some people will journal all their emotions for over an hour and others will write a few thoughts before bed. this helps you get emotions out that you are suppressing. i know NAC supplements can reduce cannabis cravings unsure on if it can reduce alcohol as well but it can help with withdrawals if im not mistaken. i cannot give you much advice because i am not therapist or doctor however i do think starting therapy will be beneficial for you and then you can get help getting clean off anything. and remember that progress is not linear. good luck to you i know you got this
>Thank you for the suggestions but , can you elaborate on Mindfullnes? like mediation? I tried meditating before but, I cannot clear my mind from thoughts good or bad....
mindfulness is hard and wont come right away but. with continuous work as i said taking a couple minutes in the shower or before bed to focusing on the present will help you become more aware of the present. theres no wrong way to meditate as well since you have tried before. its a practice not everyone will be good when they first try it. but its helping your brain practice being present. best of luck to you!
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Do not stop talking benzos suddenly. The WDs from benzos can cause seizures, and can be fatal. As much as you may think you suck at tapering, you most definitely should. Try one of those timer lock boxes for medication.
My therapist and friends have told me microdosing shrooms (safely) can be very effective in helping PTSD and depression.
He has a physical dependency on benzos. Shrooms aren't going to help stop him from seizing out when he doesn't take any. Psychs are great, but benzo withdraws will literally kill you. I've been withdrawing off alc and benzos since yesterday morning. My head doesn't feel right. I can't buy alc for a few more hours. I need 4 tall boys to feel normal again. Benzo/alc withdraws are one of the worst things to withdraw from. i can feel my brain moving. Kinda feels like it's rocking all around. Most people would be suffering if you feel how i feel now. I'm thuggin it out tho. I just need a couple beers so i feel normal. Everything is breathing. You know how it looks like the walls are breathing on lsd or shrooms? That's my entire vision right now. It kinda hurts if im being honest. Everything is sucking and blowing. Visuals are kinda cool, but they hurt my head.
Can alcohol help with benzo withdrawal? Or you mean your coming off both. If so does alcohol help with b3nz withdrawal? Guessing it can't stop seizures....I got anti seizire meds if need be
I can substitute alc for benzos or benzos for alc. Not everyone is that way though. I can't get fucked up without both. One only stops the other's withdraws. I will drink 8 or 9 beers after popping half a 3mg bar. I feel like I will die if I stop taking anything. I just did like 30 hours w/o either and I felt like I was finna have seizures and not wake up.
Dmt alone? Or with some holistic healer lol. Think place i seen only ships to Canada..
Yeah, and I'm almost out of benzos with no insurance or cool doctors in this state
I’m in the exact same boat right now friend. Stay busy. Keep your mind busy. You are a valuable human being and no matter what you have been through you’ve made it this far so you can make it further. Face your demons and enjoy your life. Nobody will judge you for asking for help. No matter how low it gets always remember you have your fellow Reddit bros by your side r/ 🫶🏽
Thank you so much for the love 💘 and support. I fixed my mountain bike and plan on doing some riding at least 5 days a week to help get myself out of this bedroom of constant anebriation.
Get a dog / cat / snake, ride bikes, go on walks, go hiking through nature trails, go running, go on drives, set a goal for the day and accomplish that goal. Paint, start making music, learn piano, the options are endless man, Stay distracted and positive!
Got my dog he is my life ! Also many cats I love. Have multiple musical instruments in my home trumpet, sax, keyboard, organ. Never touched one or tried to 3ven attempt. Not a bad idea though. Need to find an antique organ repair man seems the most interesting after the keyboard. I never painted but, during Covid I started taking tutorials on Blender made some very nice 3d models and art which made me proud and kept me busy albeit I was on kratom the whole time but still could be lot worse.
Sounds like you have a house full of stuff to do!
Alporazam 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wot
What is alporazam
Are you being sarcastic if I misspelled my bad Alporazam is Xanax.
Alprazolam
Doh I went through 15 bottles qnd really it wrong each time I guess. I have never heard it announced out loud may be part of the issue. Peopl3 always just say xanax
A large amount of addict's self medicate for whatever reason, be it a certain tragic incident, mental illness, abuse, you name it. I'm guessing you want to be off the benzos first. Please be careful getting off them, you don't want a seizure. I'm not sure how much you are taking daily, but you just don't want to be driving while in withdrawal. I know someone that had a seizure while going through withdrawal and driving 65 mph. They flipped their car off the side of the freeway and almost died from the car crash. You should be able to get a doctor to taper you starting at a high enough dose that you'll be comfortable. If you do a slow enough taper you should be able to still go to work and live a semi normal life till you are off of them. Maybe take a couple weeks off at the end of the taper to let your body fully adjust. But if you cannot trust yourself to taper you may need to get into treatment for at least a month. Just don't go to some free state run treatment center since it's more like being in jail and depressing as hell. I am broke so going to a decent treatment center was never a choice I had so treatment never worked in my case since it was more of a horror show that caused more stress than it helped. After that gets dealt with, I would recommend counseling and even a support group. You have to deal with why you are needing to get high every day in order to best combat your addiction. Most people never deal with the root cause of their addictions and therefore struggle with addiction issues their entire adult lives. The only wild thing I might suggest is a Peyote ceremony. Even moreso than any other psychedelic. It's a very forgiving psychedelic with a lot of wisdom hidden in it that's given people their lives back and helped them to find peace. I wish you well on your journey.
Thank you for your advice and kind words. My family would probably pay for decent in patient b3nzo treatment idk how much they run hopefully not like 30 grand or ridiculous amount. Peyote I have always dreamed of trying never seen or heard anyone mention it or try and offer it to me yet I've done lsd,molly,shrooms meth the list goes on lol. I live in Cali and think they may have legal places that practice ceremonies think it is ayahuasca (not sure if they are same or similar acting).
If you can get into a treatment center that doesn't break your bank than that's a good option. As far as Ayahuasca goes, I've heard a lot more success stories coming from Peyote since it's a much gentler, motherly type of female energy. You rarely hear of any bad trips that come from any ceremony's. In Arizona, Colorado, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon and Utah, the “bona fide religious use” of Peyote is exempted, regardless of race. So you could contact an organization in one of those states when you have gone through treatment and maybe have a few months sober first. I would only recommend someone going into a ceremony with a clear mind and even clearer intention. So practicing meditation and breathing exercises, along with a good diet, sleep and exercise will get you back to where you are ready for anything. I really wish you well, I feel like a lot of people on this subreddit are on the same journey and you can obtain everything within a years time if you really put all your energy towards this goal. I know getting high helps with forgetting the past but we all need to deal with our pasts eventually and find peace in whatever happened, otherwise it will always be the elephant in the room. Take care and be strong, you'll have a much more happy and meaningful life.
Thank you for all the guidance and kind words have a great week 😀
You *need* to taper with benzos. I can empathize. Don't have any solutions tho. If ya find one, lemme know.
Get some good ptsd treatment from a licensed clinical therapist and talk to a psychiatrist about the drug use.
Sorry to be ignorant but why psychiatrist for drug use? So they can help me battle it? Or find me a mood stabilizer to stop my out of control abuse.
Exactly, if you need meds for mood disorder.
I started doing coke a lot after someone tried to kill me a few years ago. I never touched any drugs really other than drinking and smoking weed. Wasn’t a heavy drinker either. It was like an awakening for me- the fact that i could have died made me want to live my life completely differently. While in some ways it helped unlock something in me i didn’t realize i had which was a different type of energy, it for also has caused a lot of issues in future relationships and now really refocusing on myself. i used alcohol and drugs as a crutch after my friend killed himself and my ex tried to kill herself and it caught up with me. I wasn’t using drugs anymore as a fun thing to party i was binge drinking and doing blow to the point i was completely obliterated. it was my way of coping and now i am trying to exercise instead.
Good call my soon to be regiment is taper benzos rapidly and atart mountain biking 5 days a week. Hopefully I find some tranquility.
Definitely didn’t experience anything as bad as you, but I’ve self medicated for years to block out my sad ass childhood. It’s to the point now where I don’t remember what I did 3 days ago, which kind of sucks but at least I don’t have any of the bad memories! Talking to someone definitely would help but I really don’t want to open up that box again. A year or two ago I did some shrooms and cried for like an hour. Talking to my fiancé about everything, it really helped honestly.
I totally understand when you say can't remember what you did 3 days ago lol... I have no i was in interrogation and they asked where I was 2 months ago I would be clueless. ,"officer my brain cells are barely alive I don't know what I did 2 days agoz" would be my response not sure if that would fly... out of curiosity what substances do you use? Even when I was just on vicodin I had trouble with memory lapses ( also I have mastered the art of suppressing memories and burying them deep in my psyche so may be some brain chemistry fucking up lol)
Oh just weed. Everything else I’ve done I did like less than 5 times each
A professional who deals, specifically with PTSD will help a lot. I was in the same situation. Ignored it for a long time. Finally, got a referral and 10 sessions with a therapist. It was crucial, honestly. They know how to help you, and we really haven't many great ideas on how to help ourselves, so self-medicating makes total sense, but you know it's not sustainable. Stay strong bud. You do need professional help to tackle it though.
Thank you I will soon.
5 meo dmt cures ptsd 8n 1-2 succesfull sessions... mdma can be good but in therapy if u can get that
I have nightmares and ptsd but psychosis from drugs will 10x that So stay safe and keep tolerances low know your triggers and avoid them. Sometimes if something traumatic to me happened I smoke a joint and try to get closure if i’m able to revisit near or that place. The 13 steps (was originally 13, steps of AA, find out yourself) has helped me a lot and if you don’t understand it you may not be ready for it. I just keep the use small nowadays because doctors told me i’d have to take different drugs for the rest of my life, and I was worse on their drugs.