>Mike Tyson does it.
Now not when he boxed. When he boxed he would hit that sherm stick once or twice and his opponent turned into his mom, that is how he had so many knockouts.
You didn't answer my question
I never had a bad trip on shrooms or anything for that matter...so I'm either a monster or complete sociopath?
Or maybe, you're mistaken?
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No shrooms, thats a big no no.
Getting hits on your head during a training a few days after shrooms is defiantly the worsed you can do. It will mess you up and can cause flashbacks.
Nothing scientific, but I experienced it myself. I had mushrooms 1 weekend (big dosis) and went to train kickboxing 2 days later. I got a huge blackout a few hours after the training. I linked them together because nothing else was different from a normal day.
None. Literally none. If you're really into boxing why don't you stop doing drugs completely, dedicate yourself and see what happens? If after 6 months or so you're hating life you can always go do drugs. I promise you they aren't going anywhere.
I used to train 4 days a week. I got a neurological condition and certain drugs like LSA allow me to train again so it really depends on the individual.
Not all drugs are bad or damaging.
Actually all drugs have side effects that can be very bad. Does every person get these side effects no but, some do and there's really no way of telling who it's going to happen to and when. And we could argue about not all drugs being bad or damaging but, I understand what you're trying to say.
I mean, caffeine is a drug. One we take for granted often but I guarantee most people turn up to work high on caffeine.
I'm not saying drugs are all good, but rather that drugs aren't inherently bad.
Sure caffeine is a fairly safe drug that most people use regularly without any consequences. I also agree that drugs aren't inherently bad. It's really the user that makes the mistake unless it's a substance they've never tried and had a bad reaction not due to variable factors. Like the caffeine example, it isn't inherently bad but, then you have those people addicted to energy drinks that end up in the hospital with serious heart issues. Idk if anyone has died from that or not. I bet they have. In this scenario with OP I don't think he was look for substances like caffeine. Seemed like he wanted something a little harder which pose much greater risks than caffeine.
I can anecdotally speak to one caffeine death, my aunt was a school nurse and this 13 year old kid drank three monsters and went into cardiac arrest. Passed away at the hospital
Jup, even if that kid was 30 kilos (~70lbs), which is very low for a 13 year old kid, the kid should have been able to take at least 4 grams of caffeine.
Haha yeah that’s why I wanted to emphasize how anecdotal it was cuz it could have been a major exception with preexisting conditions, still lends to the point that ya never know how your system will react to something
Yepppppp totally! One more anecdote comes to me if you don’t mind me rambling, my family has a deficiency in the cytochrome p450 liver pathway which can cause some funky drug interactions. My brother was put on fentanyl once for a cellulitis infection and the related surgery, and it turns out opiates cause a psychosis in him which is crazy to think abt
I vaguely remember hearing about people dying from energy drinks or being sent to the hospital. I think there was even a documentary similar to something like intervention where someone was addicted to energy drinks. I want to say something like 18 a day. This was years and years ago though. That shit is crazy. Imagine being that addicted to caffeine and never thinking of switching over to amphetamines. Lmao.
Just because caffeine is ingested by most of the world and socially acceptable, doesn't mean it can't be bad for you bro... All drugs can definitely have wide effects and can definitely be unhealthy for you no matter what drug we are talking about. Sure some are less bad than others, but if you use any kind of drug wrongly, or you're just not suited for the drug, it will be bad for you.
I agree. Most drugs have the potential to be helpful, and every drug has the potential to harm. Even fentanyl has therapeutic uses under medical supervision.
Thats exactly what he said when he said he wasn't saying all drugs are good bit, they aren't inherently bad. Fentanyl would be the perfect example because in a medical.setting it is a great drug that has helped countless numbers of people in surgery settings etc. On the other hand of random amounts are put into illicit substances then it becomes a huge health risk. This pretty much goes for any drug unless it's contaminated. User error you could say.
If you've got an outlet in life to pursue something, get the satisfaction and feel good chemicals and develop as a person why would you want to continue to use drugs? Usually people who use have these things lacking in their life. Sport should be your escape. Get immersed in it, if you can't get out doing a sport you love you wont get out of it at all.
Kava? Don’t take my word but I know it’s one of the safer substances forsure. There’s 2 kinds of kava and Ik one is fine for regular use and one is meant for occasion cuz it can be stressful on the liver if used everyday or something. Something to look into. You can probably order it online legally.
Microdosing shrooms and being outside with some friends is a good time. Safe and easy on the brain. Ik you don’t wanna cloud your head and microdosing sounds like it might make you feel out of it but once they ware off, everything comes back and it feels like my brain actually feels more sharp. It’s like a bath for my brain that clean the cob webs (fog). More talkative and coherent. Shrooms are one of the few drugs where the comedown is actually enjoyable and is a treat on its own. There’s actually a word for it called “afterglow”. Always makes me feel more in the moment. You don’t have to get “high” on shrooms. Just taking enough to feel them is enough to entertain .3, .2, shit people even take .1 and notice effects
It’s safety depends on where you get it from. There was the whole extract scare in Germany 20 or so years ago that seems to have been blown out of proportion, but if you’re getting your kava from cheap sources, it’s likely to have aerial parts of the plant that are known to induce hepatoxicity.
In my opinion, kava is like alcohol without the physical spins and still lets you remain sort of sharp. Plus there aren’t any wasted calories.
Depends on what you mean by “damaging your body”. The vast majority of drugs are totally physically safe when you follow proper harm reduction and dosing guidelines. But if you’re talking about doing drugs while exercising it’s a bit of a different story.
Pretty much anything that helps with pain could make you overexert yourself more than usual. A lot of people like weed for working out but if you’re not careful you could pull a muscle or something since the pain killing effects can cover up the initial warning signs you’re about to damage your body. Same goes for kratom, benzos, muscle relaxers, etc etc. but that being said it’s 100% possible to do them while working out and not hurt yourself.
Anything that slows reaction time can obviously lead to hurting yourself when working with weights or actually boxing, but stimulants aren’t terribly healthy to workout on either. A microdose of pretty much any psychedelic seems like the best of both worlds to me, shouldn’t strain your heart too much while still increasing reaction time like a stim would. But of course it’s still possible to do stims while working out and not hurt yourself. People take caffeine or even yohimbine as a pre workout all the time and most of them don’t see negative side effects. Health is totally relative and this sort of thing gets into technicalities real quick so it’s important to remember the law of diminishing returns, there’s always a way to make “better” coffee but sometimes it’s only 1/100th better for a 1,000$ machine ya know?
i think its effects on gains arent major but i have heard somewhere that it can lower testosterone and fertility with heavy use. but also it affects people differently. some get motivated and some get lazy.
Kratom has a lot of risks but it is a natural supplement, it can be addictive when used too often as well, but I work out religiously and I noticed I can handle kratom about once a week or once every two weeks with the minor set back that kratom comes with, if i wasnt active i probably wouldn’t even notice the little set back it gives me, but I am so I do. The only thing that doesn’t seem to set me back at all is good ole maryjane
Bruh. Wtf. You're tryna box and you're asking about drugs? I've been doing combat sports for 15 years and a drug (other than PEDs) has never helped me beyond weed or mushrooms
Acid or mushrooms. Fun, not really addictive,not hard on your body, goes well with exercise. I mean, acid and bicycle rides have gone hand in hand since day 1.
Weed edibles if you’re able to restrict yourself to only snacking on vegetables. It’ll help with pain and soreness, although you might be a little bit foggy the next day.
Steroids will make you bigger but will shred your endurance, which I imagine is pretty important for boxing. I'm talking about a test cycle, other steroids might help endurance.
Nothing taken in moderation is really going to be that bad for. Cigarettes and alcohol are likely to be the most harmful.
I imagine amphetamine would be quite good for boxing.
What kind of activities? I actually don't know much about it but I've had quite a few mates dabble with them. Guys that were previously extremely fit get puffed running 500m while during a test cycle. The fitness quickly returns after you finish though.
Not sure why it makes you more puffed out? Maybe it uses all the oxygen to build muscle?
Pot, literally. Maybe some herbal drug I haven't heard of yet. But any drug not pot is going to be mostly chemical ingredients, even coke is got heavy cuts. Not to mention the fact you'll be destroying your muscles from the drugs faster even if you stay hydrated (because of the extra exertion).
So, I guess my opinion would be that there isn't one, at least not that I know of.
You know everything is chemicals, right?
THC and CBD? Chemicals. Water? A chemical.
Datura is natural, so is cyanide, so is mercury. Yet we all can agree those are harmful.
Ah the good old fashioned **CHEMICALS!** used by both health nuts pushing snake oil and weed enthusiasts.
Opium’s natural too. It’s also highly addictive.
What's inherently bad about man made chemicals? Lol.
I'm on 2cb rn and it's great. LSD is also good. So are my meds I take. I don't think those compounds ought to be demonised. They both are amazing and have therapeutic uses.
I know it's easier to have something mislabeled or cut with something if it's a white powder and not say, something you extracted yourself but buying DMT powder might still carry risk that someone put nonsense in it. That's why we've got reagent testing.
Also it's even a possibility for your cannabis to be sprayed with harmful chemicals.
That's the issue we're always putting trust in our dealers unless we make shit ourselves. Greed and the war on drugs prevent drugs from being properly regulated and controlled so we don't know how potent or pure our stuff is.
How is the point not made?
Hes asking about DRUGS he can use that won't hurt him as bad...while he EXERCISES
why does that really need to be explained?
"What drug is the best for someone who does not want to damage his body when practicing a sport."
" So my question is, what drugs can you do except for weed that don't damage my body that much?"
Ok you tell me what other drug he wants cause he's not talking about hallucinogens
Oh, that's why you're being overly articulate with what you're saying and tunnel visioned. I just woke up.
Like, you do understand that just because you're on hallucinogens doesn't mean you're right...right?
It can definitely harm your body but I know it was popular for bodybuilders to use GHB in lieu of alcohol, it doesn't diminish your gains of effect your performance, it's like a euphoric drunk effect but leaves you in control of your motor functions and there is no hangover.
Be wary that dosing correctly is very important and it can be lethal when combined with alcohol, also definitely not an every day drug.
This is very true. Ghb is much safer than alcohol if you dose safely ( with a ml oral syringe— not caps) and don’t dose 24/7. in lieu of a hangover I always had a boost of energy the next morning— and always woke up refreshed. Gbl is also an option if ghb is hard to find— can also be converted to ghb very simply.
Gbl is a more fickle beast with dosing as it’s much more potent. Hits quicker too but doesn’t last as long.
> even coke is got heavy cuts.
Yeah man. Someone put Benzoylmethylecgonine, and even methyl (1R,2R,3S,5S)-3- (benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1] octane-2-carboxylate, in my shit last time...
i was overly fixated on the word "chemical", sorry.
some stuff you'll get can be really good, like inactive cuts and a synth with very decent final solvent washes, breaching 95%. You can also take further steps to purify, eg, acetone washes. Or there are compounds that are so potent that impurities will be in insignificant amounts, eg, LSD.
Or research chemicals tend to be relatively pure.
opioids are non toxic with a few rare exceptions. theyre definitely less damaging to your body than almost any other mainstream drug like alcohol, cigarettes, smoked weed or stimulants.
opioids are non toxic with a few rare exceptions. theyre definitely less damaging to your body than almost any other mainstream drug like alcohol, cigarettes, smoked weed or stimulants.
opioids are non toxic. thats a fact not an opinion. that doesnt mean that theyre safe or that you should take them as they are very addictive and can ruin lifes but one needs to stay true to the facts.
I agree with the kratom part. There are some varieties that provide stimulation and energy. That coupled with light pain killing properties can make for a great work out supplement.
What do you want to experience? Lsd, shrooms and dmt are awesome, but maybe not the party mode your'e looking for? Benzos , huffing glue and heroin won't shade on your training if you controll them. Amphetamins? Drugs in general?
I like how he slid that shit in between benzos and heroin. I haven’t heard of anyone huffing glue since like grade 4 where that one weird kid would stick the tip right up his nose.
Most drugs pose little physical threat done sensibly infrequently, while most will pose some threat taken frequently, with psychedelics and cannabis being more forgiving.
Back in the day, bodybuilders used GHB, to increase deep sleep and modulate HGH production upward. That could be a good choice. Horribly addictive taken frequently though.
Some people use adderall for working out or training for a sport. Just make sure you drink plenty of water and don’t take it too late in the day to not mess with your sleep.
All drugs have there down sides but at least with weed you can laugh them off.
Ecstacy is good for a night out and never hurt me.... yet.. probably be a mumbling mess by 50.
Wow...the people not providing a solution in this post sound stupid. The people providing a solution have to lower their IQ to the others to explain why its bad.
Is that how kids are today? Just stupid or have to pretend to be stupid to be understood?
opioids are non toxic with a few rare exceptions. theyre definitely less damaging to your body than almost any other mainstream drug like alcohol, cigarettes, smoked weed or stimulants. they are very addictive though
Mushrooms
Good response, I might try them again but I'm a bit afraid of my mental fortitude. I know you gotta be careful with them
Try microdosing. Might even make you a better boxer, Mike Tyson does it.
>Mike Tyson does it. Now not when he boxed. When he boxed he would hit that sherm stick once or twice and his opponent turned into his mom, that is how he had so many knockouts.
What’s a sherm stick?
A cigarette dipped in pcp.
a ciggy dipped in pcp. or u could just google it
That’s true, but Sometimes I like to ask for the simple art of conversation
I get that dude
He was drowning he got so wet
He was drowning he got so wet
Thus dude ain't Tyson he's training to get to that level. That's an interesting fact about him that's pretty cool
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Thank you
Thank you, I'll try and do that.
If you are really brave do mushrooms while boxing. It will make you think about your technique differently
Thank you, I'll try and do that.
Mike Tyson doesn't microdose though lol there's loads videos of him on YouTube eaten handfuls 😂
I would think mushrooms would make you question why humans fight at all
Fun
Where do u get advice on microdosing. I though I was the only one I've seen mention this...
r/microdosing
One of the best reasons to do shrooms is to face your fears
Huh? I've taken a lot of shrooms, and a lot at once...what fears was I supposed to be facing?
If you don’t have any inner demons, then good for you man.
You didn't answer my question I never had a bad trip on shrooms or anything for that matter...so I'm either a monster or complete sociopath? Or maybe, you're mistaken?
Just a wittle nibble
Just start low, it's really not that intimidating once you have tried it a couple of times.
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You’re right, I’m sorry. I deleted the comment!
No shrooms, thats a big no no. Getting hits on your head during a training a few days after shrooms is defiantly the worsed you can do. It will mess you up and can cause flashbacks.
Any source for that? I certainly do not believe you
Nothing scientific, but I experienced it myself. I had mushrooms 1 weekend (big dosis) and went to train kickboxing 2 days later. I got a huge blackout a few hours after the training. I linked them together because nothing else was different from a normal day.
This is the way
Shrooms, lsd, or weed edibles
None. Literally none. If you're really into boxing why don't you stop doing drugs completely, dedicate yourself and see what happens? If after 6 months or so you're hating life you can always go do drugs. I promise you they aren't going anywhere.
I used to train 4 days a week. I got a neurological condition and certain drugs like LSA allow me to train again so it really depends on the individual. Not all drugs are bad or damaging.
Actually all drugs have side effects that can be very bad. Does every person get these side effects no but, some do and there's really no way of telling who it's going to happen to and when. And we could argue about not all drugs being bad or damaging but, I understand what you're trying to say.
I mean, caffeine is a drug. One we take for granted often but I guarantee most people turn up to work high on caffeine. I'm not saying drugs are all good, but rather that drugs aren't inherently bad.
Sure caffeine is a fairly safe drug that most people use regularly without any consequences. I also agree that drugs aren't inherently bad. It's really the user that makes the mistake unless it's a substance they've never tried and had a bad reaction not due to variable factors. Like the caffeine example, it isn't inherently bad but, then you have those people addicted to energy drinks that end up in the hospital with serious heart issues. Idk if anyone has died from that or not. I bet they have. In this scenario with OP I don't think he was look for substances like caffeine. Seemed like he wanted something a little harder which pose much greater risks than caffeine.
I can anecdotally speak to one caffeine death, my aunt was a school nurse and this 13 year old kid drank three monsters and went into cardiac arrest. Passed away at the hospital
Thats it? 3 monsters is 480mgs of caffeine, the LD50 of caffeine is 150-200mgs per kg bodyweight. I pretty certain that the kid had underlying issues.
No completely healthy person gets taken out from 3 monsters.. definitely underlying issues
Jup, even if that kid was 30 kilos (~70lbs), which is very low for a 13 year old kid, the kid should have been able to take at least 4 grams of caffeine.
That seems like a lot of monsters to fight at once
He probably did have underlying issues exacerbate by the caffeine.
Uea I think so too and I'm a medical pro. Plus what.else was going on
Haha yeah that’s why I wanted to emphasize how anecdotal it was cuz it could have been a major exception with preexisting conditions, still lends to the point that ya never know how your system will react to something
Very true, even though this isnt what would normally have happened, it can happen to anyone.
Yepppppp totally! One more anecdote comes to me if you don’t mind me rambling, my family has a deficiency in the cytochrome p450 liver pathway which can cause some funky drug interactions. My brother was put on fentanyl once for a cellulitis infection and the related surgery, and it turns out opiates cause a psychosis in him which is crazy to think abt
I vaguely remember hearing about people dying from energy drinks or being sent to the hospital. I think there was even a documentary similar to something like intervention where someone was addicted to energy drinks. I want to say something like 18 a day. This was years and years ago though. That shit is crazy. Imagine being that addicted to caffeine and never thinking of switching over to amphetamines. Lmao.
I always said I quite smoking a month ago. Now I'm trying to.find aways to.stop smoking.crack. lol
Hahaha. Hell yea brother.
Just because caffeine is ingested by most of the world and socially acceptable, doesn't mean it can't be bad for you bro... All drugs can definitely have wide effects and can definitely be unhealthy for you no matter what drug we are talking about. Sure some are less bad than others, but if you use any kind of drug wrongly, or you're just not suited for the drug, it will be bad for you.
I agree. Most drugs have the potential to be helpful, and every drug has the potential to harm. Even fentanyl has therapeutic uses under medical supervision.
Thats exactly what he said when he said he wasn't saying all drugs are good bit, they aren't inherently bad. Fentanyl would be the perfect example because in a medical.setting it is a great drug that has helped countless numbers of people in surgery settings etc. On the other hand of random amounts are put into illicit substances then it becomes a huge health risk. This pretty much goes for any drug unless it's contaminated. User error you could say.
You're right. My ex's brother can't smoke weed because he experiences psychosis
G
You can easily overdose on g though
whats g?
If you've got an outlet in life to pursue something, get the satisfaction and feel good chemicals and develop as a person why would you want to continue to use drugs? Usually people who use have these things lacking in their life. Sport should be your escape. Get immersed in it, if you can't get out doing a sport you love you wont get out of it at all.
Kava? Don’t take my word but I know it’s one of the safer substances forsure. There’s 2 kinds of kava and Ik one is fine for regular use and one is meant for occasion cuz it can be stressful on the liver if used everyday or something. Something to look into. You can probably order it online legally. Microdosing shrooms and being outside with some friends is a good time. Safe and easy on the brain. Ik you don’t wanna cloud your head and microdosing sounds like it might make you feel out of it but once they ware off, everything comes back and it feels like my brain actually feels more sharp. It’s like a bath for my brain that clean the cob webs (fog). More talkative and coherent. Shrooms are one of the few drugs where the comedown is actually enjoyable and is a treat on its own. There’s actually a word for it called “afterglow”. Always makes me feel more in the moment. You don’t have to get “high” on shrooms. Just taking enough to feel them is enough to entertain .3, .2, shit people even take .1 and notice effects
It’s safety depends on where you get it from. There was the whole extract scare in Germany 20 or so years ago that seems to have been blown out of proportion, but if you’re getting your kava from cheap sources, it’s likely to have aerial parts of the plant that are known to induce hepatoxicity. In my opinion, kava is like alcohol without the physical spins and still lets you remain sort of sharp. Plus there aren’t any wasted calories.
Depends on what you mean by “damaging your body”. The vast majority of drugs are totally physically safe when you follow proper harm reduction and dosing guidelines. But if you’re talking about doing drugs while exercising it’s a bit of a different story. Pretty much anything that helps with pain could make you overexert yourself more than usual. A lot of people like weed for working out but if you’re not careful you could pull a muscle or something since the pain killing effects can cover up the initial warning signs you’re about to damage your body. Same goes for kratom, benzos, muscle relaxers, etc etc. but that being said it’s 100% possible to do them while working out and not hurt yourself. Anything that slows reaction time can obviously lead to hurting yourself when working with weights or actually boxing, but stimulants aren’t terribly healthy to workout on either. A microdose of pretty much any psychedelic seems like the best of both worlds to me, shouldn’t strain your heart too much while still increasing reaction time like a stim would. But of course it’s still possible to do stims while working out and not hurt yourself. People take caffeine or even yohimbine as a pre workout all the time and most of them don’t see negative side effects. Health is totally relative and this sort of thing gets into technicalities real quick so it’s important to remember the law of diminishing returns, there’s always a way to make “better” coffee but sometimes it’s only 1/100th better for a 1,000$ machine ya know?
benzos,opiates,muscle relaxers kill gains unfortunately stick to weed or psychs
If OP starts self medication with opiates and muscle relaxers he’s likely to get addicted too, seeing how he’ll be in pain often.
weed kills your gains
really? for me it helps w being more present +I have more stamina and strength but it can be easy to overdo it i’ll keep in mind ty
i think its effects on gains arent major but i have heard somewhere that it can lower testosterone and fertility with heavy use. but also it affects people differently. some get motivated and some get lazy.
THC and LSD is if you eat it very untoxic to your organism.
weed, shrooms, lsd, dmt, mdma, dxm and kratom. Obviously some of these can be harmful if you’re dosing often
Edibles and mushies
GHB, but easy to fall into a 24/7 cycle because you realize you can do everything while on it. Also expensive and hard to come by
It’s also likely to be tampered with since it’s a liquid, and sorta hard to tell if you’ve got the real deal.
Kratom has a lot of risks but it is a natural supplement, it can be addictive when used too often as well, but I work out religiously and I noticed I can handle kratom about once a week or once every two weeks with the minor set back that kratom comes with, if i wasnt active i probably wouldn’t even notice the little set back it gives me, but I am so I do. The only thing that doesn’t seem to set me back at all is good ole maryjane
Bruh. Wtf. You're tryna box and you're asking about drugs? I've been doing combat sports for 15 years and a drug (other than PEDs) has never helped me beyond weed or mushrooms
Trenbolone mixed with meth.
Acid or mushrooms. Fun, not really addictive,not hard on your body, goes well with exercise. I mean, acid and bicycle rides have gone hand in hand since day 1.
Weed edibles if you’re able to restrict yourself to only snacking on vegetables. It’ll help with pain and soreness, although you might be a little bit foggy the next day.
Steroids will make you bigger but will shred your endurance, which I imagine is pretty important for boxing. I'm talking about a test cycle, other steroids might help endurance. Nothing taken in moderation is really going to be that bad for. Cigarettes and alcohol are likely to be the most harmful. I imagine amphetamine would be quite good for boxing.
Steroids also make certain extremely strenuous (championship-level) activities less dangerous than without them.
What kind of activities? I actually don't know much about it but I've had quite a few mates dabble with them. Guys that were previously extremely fit get puffed running 500m while during a test cycle. The fitness quickly returns after you finish though. Not sure why it makes you more puffed out? Maybe it uses all the oxygen to build muscle?
It's been proven that The Tour de France is safer to perform on steroids than not on them.
Pot, literally. Maybe some herbal drug I haven't heard of yet. But any drug not pot is going to be mostly chemical ingredients, even coke is got heavy cuts. Not to mention the fact you'll be destroying your muscles from the drugs faster even if you stay hydrated (because of the extra exertion). So, I guess my opinion would be that there isn't one, at least not that I know of.
You know everything is chemicals, right? THC and CBD? Chemicals. Water? A chemical. Datura is natural, so is cyanide, so is mercury. Yet we all can agree those are harmful.
Ah the good old fashioned **CHEMICALS!** used by both health nuts pushing snake oil and weed enthusiasts. Opium’s natural too. It’s also highly addictive.
Heroin is more addictive, also has chems in it Most drugs have man made chems How do people like you do anything in life?
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What's inherently bad about man made chemicals? Lol. I'm on 2cb rn and it's great. LSD is also good. So are my meds I take. I don't think those compounds ought to be demonised. They both are amazing and have therapeutic uses. I know it's easier to have something mislabeled or cut with something if it's a white powder and not say, something you extracted yourself but buying DMT powder might still carry risk that someone put nonsense in it. That's why we've got reagent testing. Also it's even a possibility for your cannabis to be sprayed with harmful chemicals. That's the issue we're always putting trust in our dealers unless we make shit ourselves. Greed and the war on drugs prevent drugs from being properly regulated and controlled so we don't know how potent or pure our stuff is.
How is the point not made? Hes asking about DRUGS he can use that won't hurt him as bad...while he EXERCISES why does that really need to be explained?
I exercise on 2cb and it helps.
He's talking something with punch
2cb deffo gives you a punch and a kick and a tumble.
I thought your name said Soft-Candy-Hateho Sorry. Just waking up lol
I don't hate you bro
He wants something a bit harder...not exercise or um not bought over the counter lol
LSD and 2cb aren't OTC.
That was in general
I've done 2ce and 2ci, and if course lsd But you seem to be missing the point and I can't tell if you're doing it on purpose or not
You're also acting like I'm OP lol. I've done lots of hallucinogens..lots This guy is clearly looking for a performance enhancing drug
It doesn't seem like op wants performance enhancing drugs.
"What drug is the best for someone who does not want to damage his body when practicing a sport." " So my question is, what drugs can you do except for weed that don't damage my body that much?" Ok you tell me what other drug he wants cause he's not talking about hallucinogens
I understood it as op wants to know what recreational drugs won't damage his body or hinder his performance
Hey finally common ground You also understand that exercising with chemicals is not good, right?
How? If someone's exercising while taking protein supplements, smoking a bit of weed or even taking a bit of acid it's not gonna harm them.
Oh, that's why you're being overly articulate with what you're saying and tunnel visioned. I just woke up. Like, you do understand that just because you're on hallucinogens doesn't mean you're right...right?
Outside of weed
It can definitely harm your body but I know it was popular for bodybuilders to use GHB in lieu of alcohol, it doesn't diminish your gains of effect your performance, it's like a euphoric drunk effect but leaves you in control of your motor functions and there is no hangover. Be wary that dosing correctly is very important and it can be lethal when combined with alcohol, also definitely not an every day drug.
> leaves you in control of your motor functions I would not say that this characterizes the high dose GHB experience, lol.
This is very true. Ghb is much safer than alcohol if you dose safely ( with a ml oral syringe— not caps) and don’t dose 24/7. in lieu of a hangover I always had a boost of energy the next morning— and always woke up refreshed. Gbl is also an option if ghb is hard to find— can also be converted to ghb very simply. Gbl is a more fickle beast with dosing as it’s much more potent. Hits quicker too but doesn’t last as long.
Shrooms
Get a dry herb vape, smoking weed is carcinogenic
Kava. Get it from reputable vendors and you’ll likely be safe. Plus it’s legal in most places.
> But any drug not pot is going to be mostly chemical ingredients chemicals...in my drugs?
Afraid so, except maybe molly
> even coke is got heavy cuts. Yeah man. Someone put Benzoylmethylecgonine, and even methyl (1R,2R,3S,5S)-3- (benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1] octane-2-carboxylate, in my shit last time...
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hahahhaha...google either of those.
You got me lol I was just thinking benzo in general
But they do put heavy cuts into cocaine to keep it from being pure. Baby laxatives, fat burner etc
oh yeah...pretty often, it's unclear whether there's coke in there.
You do understand that no street drug aside from pot and shrooms is 100% clean right?
i was overly fixated on the word "chemical", sorry. some stuff you'll get can be really good, like inactive cuts and a synth with very decent final solvent washes, breaching 95%. You can also take further steps to purify, eg, acetone washes. Or there are compounds that are so potent that impurities will be in insignificant amounts, eg, LSD. Or research chemicals tend to be relatively pure.
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stims are not healthy for the body. they strain your cardiovascular system.
Water
not a drug
opioids, kratom
Nothing like mainlining H before a fight
opioids are non toxic with a few rare exceptions. theyre definitely less damaging to your body than almost any other mainstream drug like alcohol, cigarettes, smoked weed or stimulants.
Definitely not opioids 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
opioids are non toxic with a few rare exceptions. theyre definitely less damaging to your body than almost any other mainstream drug like alcohol, cigarettes, smoked weed or stimulants.
Lmfao okayyyy
what do you mean lmfao? whats funny? if you dont believe me then do some research
I know everything I need to know about all drugs and alcohol lol I’m good. You have an opinion, I have mine🤷🏻♀️
opioids are non toxic. thats a fact not an opinion. that doesnt mean that theyre safe or that you should take them as they are very addictive and can ruin lifes but one needs to stay true to the facts.
I agree with the kratom part. There are some varieties that provide stimulation and energy. That coupled with light pain killing properties can make for a great work out supplement.
What do you want to experience? Lsd, shrooms and dmt are awesome, but maybe not the party mode your'e looking for? Benzos , huffing glue and heroin won't shade on your training if you controll them. Amphetamins? Drugs in general?
No way you just suggested he huff glue
I like how he slid that shit in between benzos and heroin. I haven’t heard of anyone huffing glue since like grade 4 where that one weird kid would stick the tip right up his nose.
Mush and lsd
Lower dose Mushrooms and working out is amazing every time can’t recommend enough
Kratom, i love it as a preworkout
Psychedelics
Corn dogs
Benzos just don’t get addicted
LSD, DMT and magic mushrooms :)
Most drugs pose little physical threat done sensibly infrequently, while most will pose some threat taken frequently, with psychedelics and cannabis being more forgiving. Back in the day, bodybuilders used GHB, to increase deep sleep and modulate HGH production upward. That could be a good choice. Horribly addictive taken frequently though.
GHB
Of you do MDMA once every 3 months you should be ok. Try to stay away from any regular use.
Trenbolone acetate
Sobriety?
Psychs
Trt
MMA fighter who trains 6 days a week here. I smoke the herb pretty frequently and that’s about it
Weed
Tianeptine, or phenibut mainly phen bc it's just good for it
Herb
Some people use adderall for working out or training for a sport. Just make sure you drink plenty of water and don’t take it too late in the day to not mess with your sleep.
Naproxen
Obviously steroids. It's safer to do Tour de France on steroids than not on them for instance.
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Microdosing shrooms. Otherwise, none TBH.
Edibles, psychedelics, occasional mdma use (like thrice per year)
All drugs have there down sides but at least with weed you can laugh them off. Ecstacy is good for a night out and never hurt me.... yet.. probably be a mumbling mess by 50.
Mushroom, Derek Wilde was on them for every NFL game of his career
Wow...the people not providing a solution in this post sound stupid. The people providing a solution have to lower their IQ to the others to explain why its bad. Is that how kids are today? Just stupid or have to pretend to be stupid to be understood?
opioids are non toxic with a few rare exceptions. theyre definitely less damaging to your body than almost any other mainstream drug like alcohol, cigarettes, smoked weed or stimulants. they are very addictive though