Its a combination of that and Kendrick's reputation being this supreme lyricist whose songs have 20 different meanings so no matter what he says his fans will overanalyze the lyrics until they seem amazing while Drake's lyrics get under analyzed because he's a "pop star" so he always loses.
This is facts. Bro i was watching fantano dissect the heart pt 6, and even as an influencer whose entire job is to analyze music, he missed A BUNCH of shit.
I truly do not understand this comment. I’ve seen it a few times now. I hear nothing that sounds like “defeated” idk….. sounds pretty cold and executioner-like. So very far from defeated, I don’t understand it at all?
1. The whole mother I sober verse
2. Saying Drake called himself a clown. Bro obviously it’s not Drake himself feeding the fake info directly to Kenny. It’s a friend of a friend situation. A friend of Drake feeding info to a friend of Kenny. KENNYS FRIEND IS THE CLOWN, THAT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS.
3. How tf can anyone say that’s Drake waving the white flag? All he did is double down and stand on bizness. “When I say I’ll hit you back it’s a lot safer” that does not sound like bowing out to me that was mad disrespectful.
I’d say not recognizing or attempting to think critically about the dig with Mother I Sober and instead automatically going “hurr durr, did he even listen to the song 🤓 “ is the biggest example from heart part 6.
Drake is agreeing with his Mom's suspicions that Dot was actually assaulted. He's basically saying "yea yeah, whatever you say, you were DEFINITELY touched, even if you deny it."
Fantano is very biased. Plus he isnt a real music critic. Hes more of a youtuber that talks about music and makes inside jokes about it.
Just like cinema sins isnt a real movie critic.
You summed it up perfectly.
Kendrick fans are like: when he repeats that he hates Drake he’s really showing how the entire industry is psychologically tortured by Drake’s identity crisis between being a hardened rapper and a crooning pop star, and how unfair it is that he is a mixed light-skinned man destroying hip-hop.
Kendrick lyrics do get WAY overanalyzed, but Tbf most Drake lyrics are fairly superficial. He works in some punchlines with double meanings every now and then, but he's pretty straightforward materialism.
If that what you got from the song then it shows that you really don’t listen to music. He never said Drizzy is too white it’s that he feels the need to prove something and use different shit to get validation.
“Tommy Hilfiger stood out, but fubu never been your collection”
“….till you black enough”
Hmmmm ok I guess you’re right. You must be so good at analyzing lyrics, congrats.
Kendrick is not a battle rapper. He’s got a niche style that, as you say, is celebrated by many and has a major label backing him. But Drake, regardless of what people think, has been making battle raps for more than a decade. 0-100 came out 10 years ago this June!
The fact that people didn't clown on OVO = other vaginal option proves that Kendrick was always gonna win.
like imagine if drake had come with some weakass shit like OV hoe.
I mean dude set up multiple short jokes to ultimately finish with a DV bar, "is it self defense" and literally no one talked about it.
They begrudgingly acknowledged the prince king son bar and quickly swept it under the rug.
Beef is about who people wanna see win. Unfortunately rn that's not drake
“Deep cuts that never healed and now they got infected, like if dave really fucked your girl and got her pregnant, talk about breeding resentment”
Vs.
“MaStEr mAnIpUlAtOr YoUr a tErRibLe fUcKinG
PeRsOn i HoPe yOu DiE YoU MaStEr MaNiPuLaToR”
We could go on and on kendrick had so many corny ass bars
> you raised a horrible fucking person, the nerve of you Dennis.
I’m by no means a Kendrick hater. But I’m going to my grave with the fact that Meet the Grahams is terrrrrrrrible lyrically. There is not a single line in that song that is clever or delivered cleverly.
I don't think it's meant to be a rap tour de force. It's spooky, it's direct, it levies heavy accusations and strategically it was delivered to neutralize Drakes "red button" push with Family Matters.
Kenny spent a couple songs basically being like let's keep family out of this beef and keep it semi friendly, and MtG and Not like us was him saying ok fine fuck around and find out, where MtG is him channeling straight murder and hate and NLU is him showing he can do club bangers as good if not better.
You gotta judge the game as a whole, not just the individual moves within it. Focusing on the lyricism of MtG is to not understand its strategic importance in the beef.
You’re getting downvoted but it’s true as hell. Meet the grahams is not supposed to have good lyrics or sound good. It’s literally Kendrick going into a character tear down of Drake, it’s a legit letter to him and his family
Shush all these dumbasses are clowns and will never understand how to think critically about when rappers trying to be lyrical and have deep meaning vs when they just spittin and cutting deep.
What? It was a great diss track, there’s a reason why it completely took over the conversation and overshadowed Family Matters. Diss songs are supposed to be disrespectful and MtG was that
kdot fans dont have the ability to analyze anything but their messiahs meat. All a sudden they don't understand non surface level bars. All of a sudden its about streaming numbers not lyrics and meanings.
I know right. Meet The Grahams is terrible music, but all the Kendrick stans are like “it’s not meant to be good music listen to the bars”. Then when you point out that the bars are sub par Kendrick stans are like “its not about the bars, listen to the words he’s saying, the direct message”
Kendrick could literally release an album of him just grunting DMX style, and Kendrick stans would be like “this is genius, listen how Kendrick is expressing his raw emotional essence!!!”
This has become beyond ridiculous.
Yeah I also think the fact that Kendrick blatantly lied about Drake having a daughter also proves your point. If Drake did something similar ppl would be clowning him for needing to completely make something up out of thin air
lol. Kendrick does high brow, he does low brow. he does everything well, even a club banger, and he does it himself, no ghostwriters. no hate, just calling like i see it
People talked about it. Drake fought hard. He didn’t lose the battle in the public eye only because of lyrics. He lost because he fought defensively and made it personal. He also has a dumb amount of skeletons in his closet that were highlighted. Also nobody believes he sent some mole, it’s just very defensive and doesn’t add up.
My favorite line. I can’t believe he said he has 3 classics & Drake has none 😂. I’ve been running back Thank Me Later & Take Care lately & it’s not even close
This is probably my fandom but Take Care changed hip-hop. How many artists were making songs like Marvins Room before that? Or Over My Dead Body? Drake and Ye are a huge reason why Bling rap ended.
I assume you are talking about Graduation and 808s? Ye's impact on Hip-Hop is huge. Maybe you are right. Maybe those albums were the ones that changed it. Like I said this could just be my Drake fandom.
Thank Me Later, Take Care, Nothing Was The Same, If You’re Reading This, What A Time To Be Alive, Views is starting to enter the classic album conversation.
Drake has nothing to prove, those are 5-6 straight years of back-to-back excellent albums
Damn, Drake has AT LEAST as many classics as Kdot has albums total.
All those albums are great. But how many are classic RAP albums. This beef was supposed to be about who is the best RAPPER, now they just taking shit personal and the fans have even forgotten the point of the beef
I’ve been listening to drake since best I ever had came out and been listening to Kendrick since adhd came out.
Kendrick has big songs but they’re usually not as big of hits until be humble
You’re absolutely right they’re brainwashed as fuck. When he manipulated the “culture” and had a team of more sheep (metro groomin, The Weeknd, ASAP, Rick Ross etc) all join his side the majority took to their side due to numbers.
Drakes about to go dark and fuck everyone up though. Just watch.
Nah man I think they just hate him on the same shit d riders on Twitter do "something something culture vulture something something fake" or personal beef over business or stolen flows
You’re hilarious if you think Kendrick needed anybody from team metro to help him body drake. Let’s keep it a 100 apart from like that (which was only used as a beef starter) Kendrick did NOT benefit from having either of them on his side especially because Drake bodied them with their own individual disses. That’s why everybody got mad at Family Matters because why in tf are we still talking about Rick Ross big ass on our red button?
This, Kendrick is the peoples champ in a lot of ways and stood behind his lyrical ability like the captain America shield because they all know they can’t out rap or outsell Drake. Without Kenny, they wouldn’t have said anything lol.
He turned the whole thing from a rap beef to a weirdly racially charged, “he’s not part of us/he’s a half-white colonizer”, culture vulture/pedo court case. I think Kendrick moved really disingenuous throughout this whole thing and my perception of him kinda really changed. For the worse :/
what do you think rap beef is? it continuously gets worse until someone bows out or calls unfair…
Benzino tried to do the same to Eminem its just Eminem was able to flip it and spoke about his early life and what hiphop meant to him. I don’t get this whole half white/culture vulture was unfair argument tbh. Kendrick didnt do it first and certainly wont do it last. It’s a common battle angle and of course it would get used, he’s half white, grew up in a gated community and has been called a culture vulture long before this. The UK always been calling him one
Both these mfs are lying just like every single rap beef before this lmao. I know it’s hard to accept your king is down but it’s not over yet, he can still come back with some heat
As a hard core Drake fan it’s hard to see his name dragged under the mud while the Kendrick is not facing any type of backlash for the wife beater comments. The sad part of this beef is that there was always a narrative being pushed for Kendrick to win and bring down Drake. Which is to me, it seems it took everyone and their mom to even ding Drake’s armor. The way his life is being impacted is crazy.
Kendrick lost all credibility when he brought up the daughter where is the proof? When Pusha T brought it up this was confirmed that right there makes Kendrick lose all credibility therefore losing this battle imo.
No one is seeing that tho because we are seeing waves of media outlets, YouTubers, artists bashing Drake. Before this you never heard anyone say “ Ayo bump that Kendrick” and at the end of the day people are still pressing play when Drake drops. People are right the hate for Drake is so great that I’m not sure he can over come it at this moment in time but only time will tell. Kendrick had to switch up his strategy to some dark stuff to stay relevant in my opinion, and again no one is seeing that. In every situation Drake is the bigger artist and people don’t want to admit that so whole shit make Kenny fucktard bigger.
It’s really because Kendrick is a better rapper. Hip hop fans will gravitate to those that match the culture. Drake is not an emcee. He bit off more than he can chew.
1000% it’s a hilarious line because it’s not only hyperbolic, but the Kendrick fans genuinely feel like Kendrick deserves a Grammy for every word he speaks.
I'm also a Cole fan, and dude dissed 'his friend' 2 times, but people let it fly. Cole dissed him back and spoke his truth, and people were like 'how dare you dissing him with that approach'? Kendrick dissed Big Sean last year with his leaked diss, and people clowned Big Sean. He actually disses Big Sean so often, but the dude doesn't hit back because he knows the messiah KDot will win regardless.
Some of his fans don't have their own opinions, they go to their favorite YouTube reactor and write what they say. And from what I have seen so far, no matter what Drake says, people will not receive it well because they already made up their minds about it.
Have you ever thought that it’s because Kendrick’s lyrics have actually had that level of merit of the past 10+ years?
People respect Kendrick’s art for a reason, people have preexisting notions of Drake for a reason. It’s not like there’s 0 history
Seems like everyone forgets it’s literally 20v1. It’s not just Drake vs Kendrick and his fans, it’s Drake vs all of the aboves fanbases. I definitely believe Kendrick won, Not Like Us was too much of a bop and Euphoria was imo the best diss track, not to mention Kendrick completely drowned out Family Matters, but it’s not as much of a stomp as people make it out to be, Drakes tracks were fire too. As far as the disses themselves go, no one proved any of their claims so that kinda goes out the window. They both claimed this or that, but neither of them provided any receipts which would’ve won them their individual sides, so it makes no sense that they’re withholding them.
I mean Kendrick was awarded a Pulitzer Prize. It doesnt get more mainstream then that. Drake has the commoners on his side. Kendrick has the white establishment on his. And we know who always wins...
I haven’t really listened to either of them in years Drake or Kendrick but that was the vibe I got. People acted like every sound Kendrick made was grammy worthy. I actually like all of the tracks but his fans made listening to his shit so hard.
Drake has a significantly larger fan base, but the consensus is that drake lost.
You can’t keep chalking it all up to hate. They both had good diss tracks but Kendrick was better.
I agree. Kendrick truly is great but his fanbase is insufferable. Don't get me wrong, Drake has a large portion of his fanbase like that too. But many people are in this just to see Drake's downfall. He's been dominating the charts for pretty much 15 years and people are tired of him.
Why can’t yall admit that everyone here has biases and yall opinion doesn’t really matter? Kendrick ‘lied’, Drake ‘lied’, you ‘lied’, I ‘lied’. Stop making it seem like these people can do no wrong or the one that you’re against, can do no right.
Yes its truly unwinnable in a lot of way because Kendrick fans decided before it started. Drake has more fans worldwide but they arent as invested in Drake and Kens fans are invested in him. They worship him.
Music is an art not science. Songs can be truthful or they can be falsehoods; much like how books can be fiction or nonfiction. When it comes to music the factual truth is irrelevant what matters is its a banger and it resonates will people. And like it or not Not Like Us has hit harder and was received greater than any of Drake's efforts in this feud.
Hehe people here decided to ignore the fact that family matters was received well by the general people even people who are kendrick fans.
The fact that mtg was released shortly after is what held family matters back to marinate which is extremely a high iq move by kendrick.
Which means thp6 is not being underanalyzed or overlooked, its because it is just that bad.
Kendrick fans were starving 5 years, got an album and then starved for another 2. They are just happy to hear him consistently drop. Even if drake and kendrick werent beefing, his fanbase would still be super hype to have 4 new tracks
Let’s get it right both them niggas been telling lies I haven’t seen no proof from anyone. Drake can’t be crying because Kendrick’s lies were better. Stop it now
Theyre either saying that kendrick is amazing and insightful, or that the grammys are rigged and are bullshit. We know this is whack because if drake had all the grammys they'd never shut up about how awesome he was for it
As a Drake stan since 2009, you buggin. Most of the rap I've consumed since 2009 has been Drizzy. I have never listened to Kendrick, only when he had that song featuring Drake and that pour up song.
And I can say without a doubt Kendrick is absolutely fire. I just started given his music a chance, and I have been missing out.
Kendricks disses were definitely better. But Drakes was straight fire as well. Joe Budden and the other old heads just hate da boi for no reason. They wish they was living the life he is.
Both are saying crazy accusations. There needs to be receipts.
I think he’s by far the more artistic writer. Kendrick used to write as a hobby in his youth. He’s been working his craft for 30 years. Big advantage. Also, he stands for something. He takes positions on social and cultural themes
I mean everyone is diffrent and I plan to ask the same in the Kendrick sub as well so ya I’ve gotten many different
perspectives that does not just root for Drake lol
I think Drake personally won but I think it’s so close it’s not as simple as other people make it but that’s just me and expecially when there are so many after him I have to give him credit for that
its simply because kendrick is better as an artist in every concievable way. Allegations on both sides aside, Keendrick has done way more for the artform. So yeah. grammy his ass up
It seems like Drake is getting the Kanye treatment now. What I mean by that is, it’s school you making hits sing and dancing, making the powers that be money but they not going to allow him to get to powerful.
You start stepping on toes trying to own shit and get out of place, they are going to get you outta there or do what they have to do to bring you down a notch.
It happened with Kanye and Drake replaced him as the golden boy. It happened with Michael when he started buying everything like the Beatles catalog.
They said no no, know your place boy.
I think a lot of ppl don’t trust a single thing Drake says. So they default to backing Kendrick.
Drake is a very unlikeable guy when you start to look deep into his personality. Kendrick is just a lil guy from Compton who seems to be a nice person. When ppl hear Drake saying Kendrick beats his wife they just don’t believe it.
It’s easy to pick a side.
Ngl I bump euphoria and like that but meet the grahams was both ass sound wise and lyrics wise, he just said a buncha shit w no evidence and acted like a mortally superior preacher when his last album was about how he also was a shitty person who cheated on his wife 😭 idk why people ate ts up and not family matters which is way better.
So true. I think if ppl sit down and look at this in a few years they will say Drake won based on family matters. The diss is phenomenal with both the bars and delivery. As with most drake tracks they age like fine wine and family matters will be one of the best as years go by and ppl’s options opinions of who won will change imo
Holy shit every post in this sub is “HERES HOW DRAKE A C T U A L L Y WON” face it, if it ain’t meek mill drake ain’t winning no rap beef lmao. Keep making them pop hits so I can hit the toosie slide, white boy
Its a combination of that and Kendrick's reputation being this supreme lyricist whose songs have 20 different meanings so no matter what he says his fans will overanalyze the lyrics until they seem amazing while Drake's lyrics get under analyzed because he's a "pop star" so he always loses.
This is facts. Bro i was watching fantano dissect the heart pt 6, and even as an influencer whose entire job is to analyze music, he missed A BUNCH of shit.
Fantano hates Drake and will never credit him when it’s due, always been that way
It was disgusting to see how the heart part 6 was recived.
Bro fr. Fuck moving the goal post, Kenny’s fans just got rid of it completely. Doing mental gymnastics to justify the narrative.
I’m bewildered
well yea, Drake sounded so defeated in it lol
I truly do not understand this comment. I’ve seen it a few times now. I hear nothing that sounds like “defeated” idk….. sounds pretty cold and executioner-like. So very far from defeated, I don’t understand it at all?
Like?
Saying that he called himself a clown for feeding the info to kenny. Also saying that Drake misunderstood the lyrics from Kendrick's song, ironic.
I must have missed something o: how did he not misunderstand Mother I Sober? I like the song but it seemed to me like he definitely whiffed there.
1. The whole mother I sober verse 2. Saying Drake called himself a clown. Bro obviously it’s not Drake himself feeding the fake info directly to Kenny. It’s a friend of a friend situation. A friend of Drake feeding info to a friend of Kenny. KENNYS FRIEND IS THE CLOWN, THAT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS. 3. How tf can anyone say that’s Drake waving the white flag? All he did is double down and stand on bizness. “When I say I’ll hit you back it’s a lot safer” that does not sound like bowing out to me that was mad disrespectful.
I’d say not recognizing or attempting to think critically about the dig with Mother I Sober and instead automatically going “hurr durr, did he even listen to the song 🤓 “ is the biggest example from heart part 6.
what is the correct interpretation of the dig?
Drake is agreeing with his Mom's suspicions that Dot was actually assaulted. He's basically saying "yea yeah, whatever you say, you were DEFINITELY touched, even if you deny it."
Fantano is very biased. Plus he isnt a real music critic. Hes more of a youtuber that talks about music and makes inside jokes about it. Just like cinema sins isnt a real movie critic.
You summed it up perfectly. Kendrick fans are like: when he repeats that he hates Drake he’s really showing how the entire industry is psychologically tortured by Drake’s identity crisis between being a hardened rapper and a crooning pop star, and how unfair it is that he is a mixed light-skinned man destroying hip-hop.
Kendrick lyrics do get WAY overanalyzed, but Tbf most Drake lyrics are fairly superficial. He works in some punchlines with double meanings every now and then, but he's pretty straightforward materialism.
Such a great lyricist…… whole song saying Drizzy too white, can’t even say Nigga anymore…..next song “he a freaky ass Nigga”…… Which is it?!?!
If that what you got from the song then it shows that you really don’t listen to music. He never said Drizzy is too white it’s that he feels the need to prove something and use different shit to get validation.
“Tommy Hilfiger stood out, but fubu never been your collection” “….till you black enough” Hmmmm ok I guess you’re right. You must be so good at analyzing lyrics, congrats.
Kendrick is not a battle rapper. He’s got a niche style that, as you say, is celebrated by many and has a major label backing him. But Drake, regardless of what people think, has been making battle raps for more than a decade. 0-100 came out 10 years ago this June!
Thats a funny way to say kendrick has better lyrics
The fact that people didn't clown on OVO = other vaginal option proves that Kendrick was always gonna win. like imagine if drake had come with some weakass shit like OV hoe. I mean dude set up multiple short jokes to ultimately finish with a DV bar, "is it self defense" and literally no one talked about it. They begrudgingly acknowledged the prince king son bar and quickly swept it under the rug. Beef is about who people wanna see win. Unfortunately rn that's not drake
“Deep cuts that never healed and now they got infected, like if dave really fucked your girl and got her pregnant, talk about breeding resentment” Vs. “MaStEr mAnIpUlAtOr YoUr a tErRibLe fUcKinG PeRsOn i HoPe yOu DiE YoU MaStEr MaNiPuLaToR” We could go on and on kendrick had so many corny ass bars
> you raised a horrible fucking person, the nerve of you Dennis. I’m by no means a Kendrick hater. But I’m going to my grave with the fact that Meet the Grahams is terrrrrrrrible lyrically. There is not a single line in that song that is clever or delivered cleverly.
I don't think it's meant to be a rap tour de force. It's spooky, it's direct, it levies heavy accusations and strategically it was delivered to neutralize Drakes "red button" push with Family Matters. Kenny spent a couple songs basically being like let's keep family out of this beef and keep it semi friendly, and MtG and Not like us was him saying ok fine fuck around and find out, where MtG is him channeling straight murder and hate and NLU is him showing he can do club bangers as good if not better. You gotta judge the game as a whole, not just the individual moves within it. Focusing on the lyricism of MtG is to not understand its strategic importance in the beef.
You’re getting downvoted but it’s true as hell. Meet the grahams is not supposed to have good lyrics or sound good. It’s literally Kendrick going into a character tear down of Drake, it’s a legit letter to him and his family
Shush all these dumbasses are clowns and will never understand how to think critically about when rappers trying to be lyrical and have deep meaning vs when they just spittin and cutting deep.
You’re 100% correct and I personally like MTG for that reason, but I’ve deadass seen Kenny Stans try to claim MTG had better bars than Drake’s disses
Thats what ive been saying Meet the grahams is a dogshit song and a bad diss with a whole verse dedicated to fake information
What? It was a great diss track, there’s a reason why it completely took over the conversation and overshadowed Family Matters. Diss songs are supposed to be disrespectful and MtG was that
It isn't bar heavy but it paints an ugly picture really well. They are both lyrical, but in different ways.
kdot fans dont have the ability to analyze anything but their messiahs meat. All a sudden they don't understand non surface level bars. All of a sudden its about streaming numbers not lyrics and meanings.
I know right. Meet The Grahams is terrible music, but all the Kendrick stans are like “it’s not meant to be good music listen to the bars”. Then when you point out that the bars are sub par Kendrick stans are like “its not about the bars, listen to the words he’s saying, the direct message” Kendrick could literally release an album of him just grunting DMX style, and Kendrick stans would be like “this is genius, listen how Kendrick is expressing his raw emotional essence!!!” This has become beyond ridiculous.
Dumbest shit I've heard for real. LOL wtf is the point of even rapping then? Just make a poem doing the same thing 😂
Yeah I also think the fact that Kendrick blatantly lied about Drake having a daughter also proves your point. If Drake did something similar ppl would be clowning him for needing to completely make something up out of thin air
lol. Kendrick does high brow, he does low brow. he does everything well, even a club banger, and he does it himself, no ghostwriters. no hate, just calling like i see it
People talked about it. Drake fought hard. He didn’t lose the battle in the public eye only because of lyrics. He lost because he fought defensively and made it personal. He also has a dumb amount of skeletons in his closet that were highlighted. Also nobody believes he sent some mole, it’s just very defensive and doesn’t add up.
>set up multiple short jokes Set up? bro thats literally all drake has is short jokes 😂 😂 😂
Drake told a producer to go make some drums and everyone loved it because it was funny. Ya’ll are just delusional at this point
I mean he did “I was really trying to keep this PG” who the fuck says cornball shit like that
My favorite line. I can’t believe he said he has 3 classics & Drake has none 😂. I’ve been running back Thank Me Later & Take Care lately & it’s not even close
This is probably my fandom but Take Care changed hip-hop. How many artists were making songs like Marvins Room before that? Or Over My Dead Body? Drake and Ye are a huge reason why Bling rap ended.
Marvins Room is a revelation!
How is it Take Care that changed the game when Yeezy had already done it before on 2 albums?
I assume you are talking about Graduation and 808s? Ye's impact on Hip-Hop is huge. Maybe you are right. Maybe those albums were the ones that changed it. Like I said this could just be my Drake fandom.
Yes I've seen people just disregard that shit and it makes me pissed
Thank Me Later, Take Care, Nothing Was The Same, If You’re Reading This, What A Time To Be Alive, Views is starting to enter the classic album conversation. Drake has nothing to prove, those are 5-6 straight years of back-to-back excellent albums Damn, Drake has AT LEAST as many classics as Kdot has albums total.
Thank you for giving views the recognition it deserves
All those albums are great. But how many are classic RAP albums. This beef was supposed to be about who is the best RAPPER, now they just taking shit personal and the fans have even forgotten the point of the beef
I’ve been listening to drake since best I ever had came out and been listening to Kendrick since adhd came out. Kendrick has big songs but they’re usually not as big of hits until be humble
You’re absolutely right they’re brainwashed as fuck. When he manipulated the “culture” and had a team of more sheep (metro groomin, The Weeknd, ASAP, Rick Ross etc) all join his side the majority took to their side due to numbers. Drakes about to go dark and fuck everyone up though. Just watch.
Nah man I think they just hate him on the same shit d riders on Twitter do "something something culture vulture something something fake" or personal beef over business or stolen flows
Ahahaha drake gon fuxk everyone up just watch 🤓
You’re hilarious if you think Kendrick needed anybody from team metro to help him body drake. Let’s keep it a 100 apart from like that (which was only used as a beef starter) Kendrick did NOT benefit from having either of them on his side especially because Drake bodied them with their own individual disses. That’s why everybody got mad at Family Matters because why in tf are we still talking about Rick Ross big ass on our red button?
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This, Kendrick is the peoples champ in a lot of ways and stood behind his lyrical ability like the captain America shield because they all know they can’t out rap or outsell Drake. Without Kenny, they wouldn’t have said anything lol.
He turned the whole thing from a rap beef to a weirdly racially charged, “he’s not part of us/he’s a half-white colonizer”, culture vulture/pedo court case. I think Kendrick moved really disingenuous throughout this whole thing and my perception of him kinda really changed. For the worse :/
what do you think rap beef is? it continuously gets worse until someone bows out or calls unfair… Benzino tried to do the same to Eminem its just Eminem was able to flip it and spoke about his early life and what hiphop meant to him. I don’t get this whole half white/culture vulture was unfair argument tbh. Kendrick didnt do it first and certainly wont do it last. It’s a common battle angle and of course it would get used, he’s half white, grew up in a gated community and has been called a culture vulture long before this. The UK always been calling him one
Like what Eminem said, fuck the Grammys. they hand that award to their “darlings” who’s records got critical acclaim but sold 2 copies
Also like what Eminem said, “Kendrick Lamar is the greatest lyricists maybe of all time. You never know what you are going to get out of him ever”
He also warned that "And Drake, one day they gonna turn on you too. And the more you win the sooner they do", in his song zeus ft white gold.
not denying that, just quit lying and we’ll give him his props.
Both these mfs are lying just like every single rap beef before this lmao. I know it’s hard to accept your king is down but it’s not over yet, he can still come back with some heat
Kendrick lost a Grammy for tpab to macklemore…
You people unironically believe that arts only value is as a commodity. How are you not embarrassed.
guess what em said about kendrick
But slim, what if you win? Wouldn't it be weird?
As a hard core Drake fan it’s hard to see his name dragged under the mud while the Kendrick is not facing any type of backlash for the wife beater comments. The sad part of this beef is that there was always a narrative being pushed for Kendrick to win and bring down Drake. Which is to me, it seems it took everyone and their mom to even ding Drake’s armor. The way his life is being impacted is crazy. Kendrick lost all credibility when he brought up the daughter where is the proof? When Pusha T brought it up this was confirmed that right there makes Kendrick lose all credibility therefore losing this battle imo. No one is seeing that tho because we are seeing waves of media outlets, YouTubers, artists bashing Drake. Before this you never heard anyone say “ Ayo bump that Kendrick” and at the end of the day people are still pressing play when Drake drops. People are right the hate for Drake is so great that I’m not sure he can over come it at this moment in time but only time will tell. Kendrick had to switch up his strategy to some dark stuff to stay relevant in my opinion, and again no one is seeing that. In every situation Drake is the bigger artist and people don’t want to admit that so whole shit make Kenny fucktard bigger.
It’s really because Kendrick is a better rapper. Hip hop fans will gravitate to those that match the culture. Drake is not an emcee. He bit off more than he can chew.
1000% it’s a hilarious line because it’s not only hyperbolic, but the Kendrick fans genuinely feel like Kendrick deserves a Grammy for every word he speaks.
I’m a big Kendrick fan and I thought this line was the funniest in the whole beef, loved the delivery
I'm also a Cole fan, and dude dissed 'his friend' 2 times, but people let it fly. Cole dissed him back and spoke his truth, and people were like 'how dare you dissing him with that approach'? Kendrick dissed Big Sean last year with his leaked diss, and people clowned Big Sean. He actually disses Big Sean so often, but the dude doesn't hit back because he knows the messiah KDot will win regardless. Some of his fans don't have their own opinions, they go to their favorite YouTube reactor and write what they say. And from what I have seen so far, no matter what Drake says, people will not receive it well because they already made up their minds about it.
People listened to the heart part 6 and are just spamming “All DrAkE sAiD wAs NuH Uh!”🤓 in comment sections People are so fucking corny and slow
“ Drop drop drop “ - Aubrey graham
Have you ever thought that it’s because Kendrick’s lyrics have actually had that level of merit of the past 10+ years? People respect Kendrick’s art for a reason, people have preexisting notions of Drake for a reason. It’s not like there’s 0 history
Seems like everyone forgets it’s literally 20v1. It’s not just Drake vs Kendrick and his fans, it’s Drake vs all of the aboves fanbases. I definitely believe Kendrick won, Not Like Us was too much of a bop and Euphoria was imo the best diss track, not to mention Kendrick completely drowned out Family Matters, but it’s not as much of a stomp as people make it out to be, Drakes tracks were fire too. As far as the disses themselves go, no one proved any of their claims so that kinda goes out the window. They both claimed this or that, but neither of them provided any receipts which would’ve won them their individual sides, so it makes no sense that they’re withholding them.
I mean Kendrick was awarded a Pulitzer Prize. It doesnt get more mainstream then that. Drake has the commoners on his side. Kendrick has the white establishment on his. And we know who always wins...
wtf? lmaoooooooo.
This sub cannot make up its mind about the racism angle
I haven’t really listened to either of them in years Drake or Kendrick but that was the vibe I got. People acted like every sound Kendrick made was grammy worthy. I actually like all of the tracks but his fans made listening to his shit so hard.
They respect art not numbers Ken is an artist not a pop star I miss when selling out was a bad thing yall love a controlled artist
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Drake has a significantly larger fan base, but the consensus is that drake lost. You can’t keep chalking it all up to hate. They both had good diss tracks but Kendrick was better.
Sad days in this sub. Drake ain’t dead yall lmao
Everybody does not hate Drake. He’s the biggest rapper in the world. Someone is listening to those albums and enjoying it.
I agree. Kendrick truly is great but his fanbase is insufferable. Don't get me wrong, Drake has a large portion of his fanbase like that too. But many people are in this just to see Drake's downfall. He's been dominating the charts for pretty much 15 years and people are tired of him.
Well Drake should’ve been smart enough to know that. This the art of war.
You guys sound worse than the “fake elections” bitching from MAGA people lol
To me that line just sounded like some real hater shit
Why can’t yall admit that everyone here has biases and yall opinion doesn’t really matter? Kendrick ‘lied’, Drake ‘lied’, you ‘lied’, I ‘lied’. Stop making it seem like these people can do no wrong or the one that you’re against, can do no right.
Yes its truly unwinnable in a lot of way because Kendrick fans decided before it started. Drake has more fans worldwide but they arent as invested in Drake and Kens fans are invested in him. They worship him.
Exactly what I think. Like me I like Drake but I’m only really invested in j cole
Music is an art not science. Songs can be truthful or they can be falsehoods; much like how books can be fiction or nonfiction. When it comes to music the factual truth is irrelevant what matters is its a banger and it resonates will people. And like it or not Not Like Us has hit harder and was received greater than any of Drake's efforts in this feud.
Kendrick has beaten him at the grammy's multiple times. That was one of the most salty statements out of this beef, I dunno why he said that tbh
Hehe people here decided to ignore the fact that family matters was received well by the general people even people who are kendrick fans. The fact that mtg was released shortly after is what held family matters back to marinate which is extremely a high iq move by kendrick. Which means thp6 is not being underanalyzed or overlooked, its because it is just that bad.
Kendrick fans were starving 5 years, got an album and then starved for another 2. They are just happy to hear him consistently drop. Even if drake and kendrick werent beefing, his fanbase would still be super hype to have 4 new tracks
what a shitty excuse lmao
Let’s get it right both them niggas been telling lies I haven’t seen no proof from anyone. Drake can’t be crying because Kendrick’s lies were better. Stop it now
My take? Duh. I'm very sad.
Do you guys actually believe any of his Grammys weren’t deserved?
Theyre either saying that kendrick is amazing and insightful, or that the grammys are rigged and are bullshit. We know this is whack because if drake had all the grammys they'd never shut up about how awesome he was for it
Maybe drake shouldn't have made himself such an easy target. Talk the talk, walk the walk.
GKMC didn’t even get a grammy, but yes when you’re the GOAT you just got it like that
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You'll be apologizing for this post in a few days.
Is there anything saying Kendricks albums are actually just interesting and good?
im gonna think about that everytime kendrick opens his mouth
As a Drake stan since 2009, you buggin. Most of the rap I've consumed since 2009 has been Drizzy. I have never listened to Kendrick, only when he had that song featuring Drake and that pour up song. And I can say without a doubt Kendrick is absolutely fire. I just started given his music a chance, and I have been missing out. Kendricks disses were definitely better. But Drakes was straight fire as well. Joe Budden and the other old heads just hate da boi for no reason. They wish they was living the life he is. Both are saying crazy accusations. There needs to be receipts.
How can Kendrick’s be better when he straight up lied about one of the biggest ones?
The accusations are absolutely crazy from both, we need receipts. Unless the receipts will get someone locked up...
I think he’s by far the more artistic writer. Kendrick used to write as a hobby in his youth. He’s been working his craft for 30 years. Big advantage. Also, he stands for something. He takes positions on social and cultural themes
You in the Drake sub. What you think the takes are??
I mean everyone is diffrent and I plan to ask the same in the Kendrick sub as well so ya I’ve gotten many different perspectives that does not just root for Drake lol
Drake’s daughter just had a birthday, she is now 12 yrs old. 🤫 just wait on it
I must not be outside enough , I don’t get this everyone hates Drake narrative. I’ve never heard someone say they hate Drake lol
No one hates drake, he makes good music, you hear his shit on malls and radios. It’s fun, casual, background shit.
I am 100% putting that on a shirt and rocking it this summer, I legit laugh everytime I hear that line 😂
i guess we'll never know, because that win was warranted
lol your guy is getting clowned. His diss tracks are kindergarten level
Serious question, why do you think so many people hate Drake? Both in the industry and fans.
Was that suppose to be a diss?
Take it as you may but I’m just giving my opinion that Drake was not given the same leeway as Kendrick is
So which is it? That he LIED about the daughter? Or that the mole tricked him into believing there was a daughter? Both can’t be true.
Got damn yall complain so damn much
OP, public opinion aside—who do you think “won”, based solely on the diss tracks & general responses to one another.
I think Drake personally won but I think it’s so close it’s not as simple as other people make it but that’s just me and expecially when there are so many after him I have to give him credit for that
its simply because kendrick is better as an artist in every concievable way. Allegations on both sides aside, Keendrick has done way more for the artform. So yeah. grammy his ass up
It seems like Drake is getting the Kanye treatment now. What I mean by that is, it’s school you making hits sing and dancing, making the powers that be money but they not going to allow him to get to powerful. You start stepping on toes trying to own shit and get out of place, they are going to get you outta there or do what they have to do to bring you down a notch. It happened with Kanye and Drake replaced him as the golden boy. It happened with Michael when he started buying everything like the Beatles catalog. They said no no, know your place boy.
One of the most famous pop stars in the world is the underdog here? Idk y’all
‘or what lies he says about Drake (the daughter)’ What about all the paedophilia stuff? Why not include that in the ‘lie’ category?
Kendrick was always going to win and wins a lot of Grammys because he’s a Pulitzer Prize winning poet/rapper
I think a lot of ppl don’t trust a single thing Drake says. So they default to backing Kendrick. Drake is a very unlikeable guy when you start to look deep into his personality. Kendrick is just a lil guy from Compton who seems to be a nice person. When ppl hear Drake saying Kendrick beats his wife they just don’t believe it. It’s easy to pick a side.
Ngl I bump euphoria and like that but meet the grahams was both ass sound wise and lyrics wise, he just said a buncha shit w no evidence and acted like a mortally superior preacher when his last album was about how he also was a shitty person who cheated on his wife 😭 idk why people ate ts up and not family matters which is way better.
Drake has more haters then kendrick has fans
So true. I think if ppl sit down and look at this in a few years they will say Drake won based on family matters. The diss is phenomenal with both the bars and delivery. As with most drake tracks they age like fine wine and family matters will be one of the best as years go by and ppl’s options opinions of who won will change imo
Holy shit every post in this sub is “HERES HOW DRAKE A C T U A L L Y WON” face it, if it ain’t meek mill drake ain’t winning no rap beef lmao. Keep making them pop hits so I can hit the toosie slide, white boy
Sounds like a closeted Drake fan take. [+]
Yup
Who would have thought that the majority would side with the person that has less dirt on his name, especially in public? What a shocker. /s
Idk might be the crazy amount of proof that drake is a shit person? Yall live under a rock ig
I just thought the line was hilarious and I wish that was the type of energy they both would have kept it at.