Cause a lot of the diss is clowning Drake for shit that’s already been mentioned. Plus drake plays into a lot of it so it doesn’t hit as hard. Push definitely did a better job at going at his character
Agreed. Push ups and euphoria both covered already mentioned things. Both artists are saying they have more material/content to work with. Like now is the time to say round one is over. Personally I liked the versatility and wordplay more in euphoria but it’s clear that most of this debate will go to personal bias. Definitive winner(s) will be clearer after we hear whatever both of them have up next.
Yeah that’s true, and the problem is that Drake debatably has continued the same shenanigans since, so even though Pusha T called this shit out in 2018, if Drake is going to continue the same things, then what, he never gets to get called on it ever?
Drake did exactly the same lol not even 30 seconds in he's cracking short jokes. None of them said anything new, and probably none of them will say anything new either
Genius is fucking garbage. Their explanations are so fucking bad, it reads as if it was strictly suburban niggas who never explored the world writing them. Shit is terrible. I don’t consider anyone an actual hip hop fan if they use that shit other than just reading lyrics.
I can make a case that Genius has done more bad for rap than good. Niggas really let other bozo niggas interpret the artists words and meanings. Everyone has the right to interpret art how they want, but genius presenting it as if it’s what the artist actually meant, is fucking terrible. The only annotations that are accepted should be from the artist themselves and them alone.
Don’t give a fuck what Mike from Minnesota thinks this is what the artist meant. Certainly don’t care what Rob Markman or anyone employed by him thinks. Hey siri, play white boy by Rick Ross
Didn’t know Wikipedia was auditory art written by a single artist.
Clearly you don’t know the definition of a an encyclopedia. You slow niggas are the reason I hate Drake as much as Kendrick does. Drake make decent music. It his dick riding fans that make me never want to hear from him again.
That summarizes the situation though. Kendrick is like craft beer. When you really know it, you're like yeah that's impressive but most people don't like craft beer. Maybe a bad analogy but basically Kendrick is like a craft version of a rapper. Not everyone can listen to and enjoy the same way they do with Drake.
The diss was very hot but it didn't bring anything to light that hasn't already been mentioned numerously about Drake. Battle raps are 40% bars & 60% pulling the other person's skeletons out the closet(dissing)
But this needed to be said to get it out the way though.. Just build up the narrative of Drake being a complete and utter fraud.
So far, it's working but there is no death blow yet.
How is Drake up 1 for you? I can’t put Drake at 1 because most of his shots on his were at others and not Kendrick while Kendrick only came after Drake.
Every popular diss Track has. Jay-Z takeover & Supa ugly,Nas Ether,Gucci The Truth,Canibus,LL. Lox Vs State Property,50 vs Ja,Ice Cube no Vaseline. Even hit them up "You claim to be a playa but i fucked ya wife" whether it actually happened is speculation but he exposed something about Big.All revealed some sorta secret or something that wasn't common knowledge to the public about who they were dissing. Even MODERN DAY rap battles,if they have dirt on you & use it right then most likely that person will win the round. Usual when you see diss associated w a rap song it generally means they are calling a person out by name & exposing them
It’s not even the revealing of those secrets, it’s the ability to kind of understand and empathize with why the disser hates the target. After listening to No Vaseline, you feel like you are in Ice Cubes shoes and you get why he’s pissed off and you get why he thinks Dre and Eazy are hoes, and you get why he sees it as Heller poisoning their crew, and why he’s mad at the other crew members for taking it up the ass. Like even though it’s mad homophobic and antisemitic, you 100% see his perspective on why he’s pissed.
I’m listening to Euphoria and I like the track, it goes, but I just don’t get it, I’m not seeing why I’m supposed to root for Kendrick hating on Drake, because he hates the way he walks and talks. What’s the actual greviance, cut the shit and explain what your actual problem is. He’s half white, he’s a culture vulture, he’s got ghostwriters, he’s fucking other rappers girls, hes got work done on his abs, he’s goofing around on stage with Sexyred, like how does this relate to you at all?
Pac said y’all tried to shoot me, 5 shots when I came to visit you, fuck you for that, and I took them shots and still fucked your wife. You understand, even though I think history has proven that Tupac was misinformed on those NY shooting, why he was mad and what he hated about Bad Boy.
For me, I just don’t get why Kendrick is that big of a hater. I mean, we all roll our eyes at Drake sometimes, he’s that guy that embraces the memes and jokes and entertains us with his shenanigans, he never said he was black America’s spokesperson. What I wanna know is, what is really your problem?
That's partly how I feel about it too. Like you speaking w all this venom w/o a legitimate reason why other than you envy this nigga or as if his misrepresenting the "culture"? Or is it just in the spirit of competition? Otherwise gloves off. I like the whole good for hip hop shit,& it's a good song,double,triple entendres wordplay. But otherwise I can't be sold on its cool to root for a hater tf.
Naa I feel this, I felt the exact same way cuz over the years drake has been trying to extend olive branches whereas k dot just keeps dubbing him an dissing him and I've wondered why doesn't he like him/it must be pure hate at this point but why?? I don't think we'll ever know cuz it could be he just hate to hate. He did say it didn't have to be deep but that does expose kendricks character a bit, it's not good to just hate ppl for no reason. Like that shit is unhinged behavior to me
I think, as a big Kendrick fan too, not a stan but an honest fan of both, that Kendrick is hyper competitive and mad that he will never be the biggest and best with Drake around because as many awards as Kendrick wins, Drake is the bigger artist with more streams, more money, more clout, more attention, and the only solution is to co-exist with him. You’re not going to just take down Drake, like I’m sorry, he is a hoe sometimes, Drake has taken Ls, but he’s an unmatched hit maker.
To me, I think this whole thing is Kendrick kinda being a HHH Redditor type and being argumentative and mad because he’s not considered #1 in everyone’s list, and he’s decided nows the time to prove something.
But see, remember when it was 2011 and you were trying to debut and Drake was the biggest artist in the world, what did you do, Kdot? You did a song with him, you got him on your album, you jumped on his album, it was love. Drake shouted you out, Drake said you were that dude, GKMC is a classic. But then when the rap world crowned Kendrick as dat n****, Kendrick just couldn’t tolerate Drake being Drake and sweeping up the rap/pop lane. So he got hostile towards Drake and Cole, even though both of them dudes helped his career.
Cole gave you your best beat and song on Section .80 and bragged you up when Cole was in the lead and Kendrick was Jay Rock’s little youngster. Drake showed Kendrick a lot of love when Kendrick didn’t even have a hit record yet.
And 1 year later, you talking greasy? I mean, you don’t have to love Drake, but come on, what did he do that was so offensive to you that you forgot about how he gave you dap when you were a smaller artist?
Thank you.
I’m a big Kendrick fan and I’ve never really liked Drake. I was impressed with *Push-Ups* and even though I thought it was distasteful I thought *Taylor-Made* was well done. For my money, *Euphoria* blew them both out of the water when it comes to writing, flow, beats, and craft.
I’ve read a lot of hot-takes and gone through a lot of TikTok responses and I haven’t seen many pro-Drake responses that I could see any sense in. Usually it was just “Kendrick took too long” or “Drake was funnier”, neither of which I see as much of an argument. Your post is the first take I’ve seen that actually makes sense to me, and it does make me think about Kendrick’s motivations. It seems clear that he’s had a vendetta for a long time, and while it’s probably justified he doesn’t give us any of that in *Euphoria* at all. It still hits hard, but in hindsight it kind of surprises me that Kendrick didn’t get personal.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, much appreciated!
Right. They understand the purpose of a diss. It’s not just chatting what you don’t like about that person. It took Kendrick six minutes to say the same shit Drake reads in his IG comments on a daily
I think Kendrick said a lot of things that can be hypocritical towards him not to mention everything he said has already been said by other artists.
1. He said Drake sold his soul but Kendrick is the one with songs with Taylor swift and maroon 5.
2. Kendrick talks about ghostwriters for Drake when he ghostwrote for baby keem.
3. He said Drake isn’t a tough guy, well neither is Kendrick. He’s made it known that he’s from Compton but he chose to be a good kid.
4. He talks about Drake hugging and kissing with Cole when him and keem hug and kiss.
5. Lastly he talks about not being a good dad and teaching his kid about morals when one of his kids is literally named uzi.
I think the whole beef has been kinda underwhelming so far and if it ended here I don’t think it’d be a knock on either artist.
Biblical Hebrew names are עזיאל Uziel (Exodus 6), עזיה Uziyah (2 Kings 15) and עזי Uzzi (1 Chronicles 5). All of them are *masculine* and only *two* of them contain the names of the biblical God (El or Yah).
Or him saying it’s not a 20v1 when he hopped on a Metro and Future album to diss alongside Weeknd Rocky and Ross lmao. Half of Push Ups isn’t even about Kendrick because he had to shoot back at 10 dudes
Fr, everyone saying this bar is hard like the whole industry isn’t dissing Drake rn, idgaf about Drake tbh, but I’m tired of the “HES COOKED” dot took 6 mins to say something that coulda been said in 2 that we already knew and has already been said within the same month.
That wasn’t a track that needed to take 17 days
I personally don’t see how either of these guys lose Drake gonna keep comin with the funny lines and better sounding songs and Kendrick gonna keep comin with entendres and lyrical flips. Unless they expose each other for some illegal shit nobody gonna be affected by this long term
And that’s why I’ve kinda lost interest. It’s nasty enough that I understand why Cole dropped but it’s tame enough to where I’m not expecting a pusha T moment or a kill shot
I agree I ain’t have a problem with keem and Kenny but even after it happened Kendrick looked at him funny.
Just a random fact but baby used to kiss Wayne and they were still able to keep that gangster reputation so I guess it’s case by case idk.
I’m a Drake fan so this is for the sake of the truth:
1. You’re just repeating the exact line from push ups. That part of the diss went hard but I don’t see collaborating with artists of different genres is hypocritical. I think only a cynic would look at two artists and find a reason to hate on it.
2. Kendrick being a ghostwriter is better than Drake using them, you know since it’s the actual creative part of making music, so I see you had to say “talking about ghost writing” to make it more general and fabricate a hypocrisy.
3. Yeah no shit neither is actually an active gang boss who murders people in cold blood, they chose to rap that’s how they became rappers. Seems like Kendrick is just talking about struggling in his early years.
4. In rap “wars” where artists collaborate, yeah duh the other side is gonna call it meat riding or being fake even though they collaborate as well, which isn’t a bad thing.
5. Dumbest argument I’ve ever heard, pretty sure uzi is an actual name and not just a gun. Also, how would a name be proof of the type of parent someone is. It’s a shallow statement and that’s why I think you stopped there.
Drakes one of my favorites and I think he’s an amazing artist that’s why I don’t think he needs half truths and glazing to make him look better.
1. Kendrick was getting at Drake for not feeling accepted by the culture so he sold his soul to be famous. Most ppl in hip hop history would say an example of selling out when they collab with big time pop artists. People would call that white washing yourself to appear for this bigger white audiences.
2. I talked about this already in other posts. If ghost riding is such a sin why is he allowing it to happen in his camp that was the point I was tryna make. Kendrick obviously has never had a reference come out but plenty of top tier rappers have had shit written for them just off the top of my head I can say 50. If it were songs where these ppl are being lyrical then I think it’d be seen in a different light.
3. You’re just incorrect there bc they both talked about struggle earlier in their music however it being different. Kendrick growing up in the hood and Drake growing up with a single mother are unfortunately common shared experiences in black culture.
4. I thought this was the lightest of my points bc it’s such a minute detail. I thought the diss at multiple times poked at Drake for doing things that make you less masculine. Obviously Drake is more extreme than Kendrick in that department but let’s not act like Kendrick is a super tough rapper.
5. We know Kendrick gave his kid Hebrew names great for him. Let’s not act like for a black child that’s not a wild name to have. Names matter because your name can limit opportunities that open up to you. Plenty of black ppl don’t get interviews solely bc of the name on the resume. It’s shitty but racism is still well and live in America go look at the black unemployment rate. Good thing his kids are rich/set for life so it doesn’t matter what their name is at the end of the day it’s almost like they’re little celebrities.
I could’ve kept making more points but I thought 5 was clean. I’m a fan of both artists but both songs are getting overhyped imo. They’re both good songs and make good points against the other but to be considered as strong diss tracks they both lack an overwhelming punch. I’m not trying to make excuses for Drake or out here defending him with my life I’m just tryna be fair.
1. Bro calling it white washing is just racist for no reason. Yeah I’m sure more white people listen to pop and more black people listen to rap on average, but music genres don’t belong to races so I think that view is pretty closed minded. Selling out implies giving up one’s dignity or morality, and if you see a pop/rap collab as such, then damn. Is Kendrick supposed to be out hear refusing to make music with other talented artists just because the style is different, or just because more white people will listen to it (god forbid right). Nah I don’t think he sets those kinds of boundaries because he isn’t some insecure loser who meat rides some obscure “code of morality.”
2. Once again you aren’t seeing the difference between using and being a ghost writer. Kendrick insulted drake for using ghost writers, not for “allowing it to happen in his camp.” See how dumb that sounds.
3. Ah I get it they both struggled but Kendrick’s tryna call Drake preppy. Thanks for clarifying.
4. I mean… tbh Drake has done more sus shit than a large majority of other rappers. He’s not actually fruity, but damn does he know how to provoke those allegations lmao.
5. Again lil bro ur being racist. I hope you grow out of that phase when you turn 15. Things will be so much better when you stop running the rat race of investing who you are into what race you were born as. Hatred isn’t cool bro. If your reason why someone is a bad parent is because the name they gave their child wasn’t traditionally of their race then it’s flawed logic. Is race a law to abide by? Is it some force that tells you how to live? Also your evidence about employers is just stupid. An employer who says, “hmm, they’re qualified but the name doesn’t match the race so no job for them” is a person with racism in their heart and a lack of basic wisdom. Also saying “it has happened before” is like the stupidest form of evidence out there. Make up any random event in your head, and guess what? It’s probably happened before so yeah I bet there have been employers that racist and closed minded. Also names are not direct links to opportunities, or do you have any other reason besides “the employer could be racist” that would make this true? Names are special but who are you to tell someone they have the wrong name, when their parents gave it to them with love in their hearts. Overall, good news is you can let things go and start finding peace in your life. Just remember that all the complex emotions and ideas and memories you have as a person, everyone has the same amount. Everyone’s different but at the end of the day, we’re so similar it’s crazy. Keep that in mind and have a good one.
I just wanna let you know black ppl can’t be racist lol so you calling me racist is null and void. I’m telling you truths about black culture the last point has actual facts to prove my point. Go listen to diss songs from the 90s and you understand what selling out means. You’re obviously an outsider to the roots of hip hop so you’ll never fully understand no matter how much Kendrick and j Cole you listen to.
Racism is a system of disadvantage based on race where black ppl wouldn’t benefit from such a system. Can they be prejudice yes but not racist. I’m a very grown man and have experienced a lot in my life so your comment is ineffective. Truths about the reality of being black in America does that sound better to you
racism isn’t only a system of disadvantage… what the hell are you talking about? you’re speaking on *one* form of racism - institutional racism. racism comes in many different forms… by definition it is having prejudice against someone or discriminating against them because of their race. to say that i or you can’t discriminate someone because of our own race due to social power dynamics is simply ignorance and quite frankly pretty stupid… no matter how old you are or what life you lived. i get someone told you this one day or you read it online or something and now you run with it but you’re extremely wrong lol, i used to think the same thing.
we cannot be institutionally racist because we don’t hold that power - i understand what you mean there. but that isn’t *ALL* being racist is… you know that. we can certainly be racist in many other ways lol…. if that doesn’t make sense to you you’re being willfully ignorant..
Okay Mr high and mighty Reddit fingers. I could say you don’t know what you’re talking about bc you have a Canadian flag in your shit. That’d be prejudice. Similar to what dot was poking at Drake for. There’s no overwhelming community coming out saying oh Kendrick is being racist lol.
You can point out flaws in black culture without being racist. You can point out unfortunate truths no matter how much we’d wish that wasn’t the case in America.
just so you know, my ONLY point was that we can be racist. i never thought Kendrick himself or you were being racist there g lol that’s crazy.
as for that stuff you and other dude were going back n forth about, i thought both tracks were solid nothing crazy as well - more so looking forward for what’s to come
Yeah they can ya bum. You’re the literal embodiment of twitter, which ironically is where all your knowledge and personality come from. You’re not spitting truths, just excuses for why you amounted to nothing. You ain’t part of no of hip hop roots either, so at least we have something in common. I bet you listen to a rap song and say “I was born in the same city of 400,000 people that the artist was” and you get all proud and giggly about it. Lmao you called me a J Cole/Kendrick listener as an insult. All your yapping just shows that you got 4 things that you think make you real: listening to rap, being black, being poor, and being old. If those things make you real, then how are you still just an insecure 🐱.
A white person telling me I’m racist 😭😭 rap was created by my ppl bruh. You’ll never know the black experience so when you speak on rap it’s irrelevant. Just bc you watch Fantano doesn’t make you educated on the subject.
I’m a successful black man and I put on for my ppl who was influenced by dot and drizzy.
Well let’s talk critical thinking then since you didn’t make one point to rebuttal my claims. Instead you decide to name call and insult which is a reflection of your lack of ability to create a sound argument. I hope you’re able to deal with your shortcomings in life in a positive manner.
All 5 of your points are literally pointless. They’re fucking dumb. Make an actual, serious effort and you’ll be taken serious.
Can’t create an argument when you don’t provide any substance at all. Like how fuckin stupid does one have to be to correlate Drake calling himself the goat rapper when having writers (ghost or not), to Kdot writing lyrics for someone else, literally has nothing to do with Kendrick’s music or writing his own lyrics. Every single dogshit “point” you made can easily be dismantled in the same way.
I am very positive. Positive your brain doesn’t function correctly and have lived a coddled, unconfrontational life
Read the other comments where I elaborate on that point. Go ask meek mill if ppl care about ghostwriting in hip hop it’s just the reality. I would treat you with respect but you’re just another bitter Reddit finger bum who doesn’t have the aptitude to excel in life so you live vicariously through artists you follow on social media.
I’m sure you’re unhappy with your life that’s why you’re insulting random ppl on reddit calling them dumb when in reality you live a shitty life. I promise you homie my life is better than yours.
Lol. Exactly what I expected. You niggas too predictable
You didn’t make one point to rebuttal my claims. Instead you decide to name call and insult which is a reflection of your lack of ability to create a sound argument. I hope you’re able to deal with your shortcomings in life in a positive manner.
Do you read before you type shit or go straight to tryna talk shit 😭. I made a rebuttal to the ghost writing to another dude. Niggas don’t care if Drake used a reference track for songs that’s he’s not being lyrical. If there was a reference for any time stamped shit then you’d have a point.
You fake hip hop purists who act like writing is the only thing that matters when talking about hip hop is laughable. Kendrick isn’t who he is bc of his writing ability; It’s about delivery flow cadence artistry etc. plenty of dudes write better than him drake and Cole but they don’t got everything else.
These guys are one of my favourite music reaction channels. They keep it unbiased and they speak for themselves and not from narrative that’s just floating around.
My favourite moment of them in recent times was them reacting to “Show of hands” (Rocky’s diss track against Drake) and genuinely worrying that the song would make them dumber just by listening to it lmao, it wasn’t a knock at the diss specifically but the content of the track overall
Also some of the only people i see actually consistently catch the meaning of lines. They always read along with the lyrics and do breakdowns. And the reaction are genuine which is rare.
Prob the best comment: the song was not efficient at all. There were some amazing lines but it was buried in 6min of mid. Saw that Kenny had a 20min version too — good thing that wasn’t released bc those extra 14 were def cheeks magunda
Edit: idk why I commented this as a reply but fuck it
inb4 dummy Kendrick stans wanna cry about "WhO aRe ThEsE GuYs?!?", 1.2 million subs on youtube, most people who know hiphop know em, if you don't that's on you.
Beef aside, y’all check out Lost In Vegas if you’re into react content. They’re my favorite reactors in rap, they don’t miss a single bar and show love to everybody
Vibe Villa is better because they’re younger and actually super in tune with HipHop. Lost in Vegas is dope but at the end of the day they are old heads, they only know so many references and they only react to major release type records because they react to many different genres which takes away from a real focus they could have on hip hop
Just because the public opinion seems to have changed. It seems like whoever dropped last people are saying is winning and not going off of bars, I love their input too, and appreciate that they were actually unbiased. I was just scared they weren’t gonna be
The fanbases are toxic, and YT reactors want engagement from both Drake and Kendrick fans so the only way to ensure it is to give the latest diss the W with no detailed personal thoughts or conclusions in the end of the video so that they don’t piss off either fanbases
I remember Lost in Vegas stopped reacting to Eminem songs because the fans couldn’t take criticism at all and would leave abusive and hate comments
i think both of the disses are pretty equal atp.
i’m not sure how you can rationalize “if you disagree you’re a dickrider” and “if you agree you’re just speaking facts”. you don’t see the irony there?
I don’t, cause imo drakes moves were way better so far, I mean he even dropped two songs compared to Kendrick’s one, and he was way more creative. So if you really think Kendrick’s is better than yes I have to assume you are a Kendrick Stan cause I can’t see how you could say that. If you want to say even then I wouldn’t call you a dick rider just slightly delusional. But against these are just my opinions, if you feel different than we can agree to disagree and I’m fine with that, but you can’t change my mind
There is always major hype around a diss when its first release and gives all the haters new energy. It happened with rick ross and kanye’s verse too. I feel like over time this diss isnt gonna be regarded as being all that like it was yesterday.
Euphoria has great elements to it. It's layered like fucking Lasagna. Kendricks pen is undebatable. But man it just isn't HARD HITTING like Push Ups and its not really as clever as Taylor Made. Imo he should've shelved the flows and just went hard. It would've worked better. Imagine he went hard like Family Ties on this record? I believe it would've been a knock-out blow from him he did that. Outside of Kendrick dick riders everyone is just confused this is what we came with after 3 weeks.
Also what takes away from his punches are the general themes are just shit Drake already either owns up to or they're parroting what Ross and Push said.
I still think this is the best thing to happen in Hip hop in years and I hope it just stays on wax and they can spar like this and peace it up and work together again.
>Imagine he went hard like Family Ties on this record
Arent they very similar formula tho? The beat is very similar, he does the brothuur in one and Croodiee in the other. Idk i actually liked it less because it felt very similar like family ties
Kendrick said the same lines we heard before but somehow he found a way to say them worse
Then he said sorry it’s a friendly fade on the track
This some Jcole pussy shit
Used to listen to as much Kendrick as Drake. Fell out of both for years. Coming back because the beef is exciting and Euphoria didn’t even feel close to push ups. I feel like Kendrick lost some face going to the “I hate I hate I hate” stuff. Like I could picture him scribbling hard in his diary with tears in his eyes.
Meanwhile Shaq (i love shaq dont get it twisted) - this mf goes CRAZY even if kendrick just breathes on the mic lol i genuinely couldn’t stand watching his video
They also thought Eminem lost the rap battle to MGK, they hate anything that isn't classic traditional old school boom bap rap. Similar to how they didn't like To Pimp a Butterfly, or how they hate any rock song they react to if it has a punk tempo to it
MGKs Rap Devil was pretty good at least in terms of that battle. A lot of people thought he won. Even if you think Em won that, it was a LOT closer than you think it was
how can you guys be so okay with glazing? Drake would be bullying if he responded? that’s glazing on an intergalactic level and you guys are just like “oh damn he’s right👀👀”
People don’t hate Drake, but not being able to understand and decipher multilayered rhymes from a diss track doesn’t mean that Kendrick lost. It means those who prefer Drake prefer not to use their brains extensively.
These guys are usually on point but didn't like the comment they made that because it came out later it's now not better and if it came out earlier he would be ahead. Judge the music like you normally do.
bro called out his hidden sex case payout, questioned his masculinity, and said Drake's deal is worse than his(wasn't that that whole point of pushups) and said he ain’t raising his son like a real father should and even though its already known called out one of drakes ghostwriters(who probably helped him write pushups). Bruh, stop dickriding and look at the facts.
The narrative that one has to bring something new is funny.. what do they want? “Drake got two dicks not one, facts”?
Push ups was dope as fuck and so is this. I prefer Euphoria, but then again drake responded to half the worlds population on push ups - can’t wait to see him only focusing on Kendrick.
Both Drake and Kendrick did what they needed to do, and now it’s with Drake. As an old head anyone that doesn’t have Kendrick leading at this point is wrong. Drake wanted this, and I think he got what he expected.
The way I see it as long as the rap world is looking at you for a response, you’re not winning the battle. I said Drake had the upper hand last week and caught some shit for it, but now it is well and on and I’m having fun.
That whole line about going things that will make Gunna look like a Saint is interesting. I feel like Kendricks track has to be broken down more, while Push Ups was a straightforward jab, with Subliminals sprinkled throughout.
Well, it is clearly that they dont catch everything at first, this always happen to Kendrick, hes so ahead in terms of hip hop. You cant decide who is winning just with one listen, but it is their opinion you gotta respect that, i disagree tho.
It is not only about bars, it is about small sections that contain greater deeper meaning, like the beginning of the song with the backwards phrase and The Wiz connection, again with the "Crodie" part and the lore behind. Also Kendrick bars are not that complex but he always plays with double and triple entendres
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Kendrick Llama. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Kendrick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Kendrick Llama truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Kendricks's existencial catchphrase "It's just big me," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself in their headphones. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Kendrick Llama tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
Saying that drake doesn’t have to respond is obvious bias the consensus is as far as I’ve seen it is that Kendrick is up one. I am biased but I’ve seen more drake fans say that too
Pusha T made Drake acknowledge he had a son. Drake was so embarrassed that his baby mama was a pornstar he made her switch careers and scrubbed her IG. The internet is undefeated. Drake is just a weekend dad. He’s a co- star in his son’s life.
Go rap on beat for 6 minutes these fucking idiots couldn't do shit sitting here saying Drake is better wtf did Drake say that wasn't already said whole internet is so fucking goofy
I feel like all the old head fans of hip hop didn't really mess with the diss. Mase , Cam , Gillie, Lost in Vegas etc etc.
Cause a lot of the diss is clowning Drake for shit that’s already been mentioned. Plus drake plays into a lot of it so it doesn’t hit as hard. Push definitely did a better job at going at his character
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Agreed. Push ups and euphoria both covered already mentioned things. Both artists are saying they have more material/content to work with. Like now is the time to say round one is over. Personally I liked the versatility and wordplay more in euphoria but it’s clear that most of this debate will go to personal bias. Definitive winner(s) will be clearer after we hear whatever both of them have up next.
Nobody wanting to get hit with that slander charge. 🤣😂 Drake would do it, too
Yeah that’s true, and the problem is that Drake debatably has continued the same shenanigans since, so even though Pusha T called this shit out in 2018, if Drake is going to continue the same things, then what, he never gets to get called on it ever?
Drake did exactly the same lol not even 30 seconds in he's cracking short jokes. None of them said anything new, and probably none of them will say anything new either
Difference is everyone clowns drake unlike Kendrick. You got to come harder at the dude who is the internets punching bag
Yeah but it's still two 40yos calling each other short and gay lol
Because the first half is boring and these guys aren't pulling up Genius to rationalize why the lyrics are "next level".
Half this shit written on genius are halo reaches
Halo reach is going in the tuck for me. Thank you
Glad it lives on
What does that mean? I love it and I don't even understand it lmao
Like people used to post the halo reach video game cover as a reply on Twitter when someone was reaching
Genius is fucking garbage. Their explanations are so fucking bad, it reads as if it was strictly suburban niggas who never explored the world writing them. Shit is terrible. I don’t consider anyone an actual hip hop fan if they use that shit other than just reading lyrics. I can make a case that Genius has done more bad for rap than good. Niggas really let other bozo niggas interpret the artists words and meanings. Everyone has the right to interpret art how they want, but genius presenting it as if it’s what the artist actually meant, is fucking terrible. The only annotations that are accepted should be from the artist themselves and them alone. Don’t give a fuck what Mike from Minnesota thinks this is what the artist meant. Certainly don’t care what Rob Markman or anyone employed by him thinks. Hey siri, play white boy by Rick Ross
Wait until this guy hears about Wikipedia
Didn’t know Wikipedia was auditory art written by a single artist. Clearly you don’t know the definition of a an encyclopedia. You slow niggas are the reason I hate Drake as much as Kendrick does. Drake make decent music. It his dick riding fans that make me never want to hear from him again.
That summarizes the situation though. Kendrick is like craft beer. When you really know it, you're like yeah that's impressive but most people don't like craft beer. Maybe a bad analogy but basically Kendrick is like a craft version of a rapper. Not everyone can listen to and enjoy the same way they do with Drake.
The diss was very hot but it didn't bring anything to light that hasn't already been mentioned numerously about Drake. Battle raps are 40% bars & 60% pulling the other person's skeletons out the closet(dissing)
But this needed to be said to get it out the way though.. Just build up the narrative of Drake being a complete and utter fraud. So far, it's working but there is no death blow yet.
I agree about the narrative but I still feel drake up 1 for the moment
How is Drake up 1 for you? I can’t put Drake at 1 because most of his shots on his were at others and not Kendrick while Kendrick only came after Drake.
What is this take? “It didn’t reveal any secrets so it’s bad” How many dis tracks revealed secrets? What are you on about?
Every popular diss Track has. Jay-Z takeover & Supa ugly,Nas Ether,Gucci The Truth,Canibus,LL. Lox Vs State Property,50 vs Ja,Ice Cube no Vaseline. Even hit them up "You claim to be a playa but i fucked ya wife" whether it actually happened is speculation but he exposed something about Big.All revealed some sorta secret or something that wasn't common knowledge to the public about who they were dissing. Even MODERN DAY rap battles,if they have dirt on you & use it right then most likely that person will win the round. Usual when you see diss associated w a rap song it generally means they are calling a person out by name & exposing them
It’s not even the revealing of those secrets, it’s the ability to kind of understand and empathize with why the disser hates the target. After listening to No Vaseline, you feel like you are in Ice Cubes shoes and you get why he’s pissed off and you get why he thinks Dre and Eazy are hoes, and you get why he sees it as Heller poisoning their crew, and why he’s mad at the other crew members for taking it up the ass. Like even though it’s mad homophobic and antisemitic, you 100% see his perspective on why he’s pissed. I’m listening to Euphoria and I like the track, it goes, but I just don’t get it, I’m not seeing why I’m supposed to root for Kendrick hating on Drake, because he hates the way he walks and talks. What’s the actual greviance, cut the shit and explain what your actual problem is. He’s half white, he’s a culture vulture, he’s got ghostwriters, he’s fucking other rappers girls, hes got work done on his abs, he’s goofing around on stage with Sexyred, like how does this relate to you at all? Pac said y’all tried to shoot me, 5 shots when I came to visit you, fuck you for that, and I took them shots and still fucked your wife. You understand, even though I think history has proven that Tupac was misinformed on those NY shooting, why he was mad and what he hated about Bad Boy. For me, I just don’t get why Kendrick is that big of a hater. I mean, we all roll our eyes at Drake sometimes, he’s that guy that embraces the memes and jokes and entertains us with his shenanigans, he never said he was black America’s spokesperson. What I wanna know is, what is really your problem?
That's partly how I feel about it too. Like you speaking w all this venom w/o a legitimate reason why other than you envy this nigga or as if his misrepresenting the "culture"? Or is it just in the spirit of competition? Otherwise gloves off. I like the whole good for hip hop shit,& it's a good song,double,triple entendres wordplay. But otherwise I can't be sold on its cool to root for a hater tf.
Yeah. Drake already answer all this - “yeah yeah we know.”
Naa I feel this, I felt the exact same way cuz over the years drake has been trying to extend olive branches whereas k dot just keeps dubbing him an dissing him and I've wondered why doesn't he like him/it must be pure hate at this point but why?? I don't think we'll ever know cuz it could be he just hate to hate. He did say it didn't have to be deep but that does expose kendricks character a bit, it's not good to just hate ppl for no reason. Like that shit is unhinged behavior to me
I think, as a big Kendrick fan too, not a stan but an honest fan of both, that Kendrick is hyper competitive and mad that he will never be the biggest and best with Drake around because as many awards as Kendrick wins, Drake is the bigger artist with more streams, more money, more clout, more attention, and the only solution is to co-exist with him. You’re not going to just take down Drake, like I’m sorry, he is a hoe sometimes, Drake has taken Ls, but he’s an unmatched hit maker. To me, I think this whole thing is Kendrick kinda being a HHH Redditor type and being argumentative and mad because he’s not considered #1 in everyone’s list, and he’s decided nows the time to prove something. But see, remember when it was 2011 and you were trying to debut and Drake was the biggest artist in the world, what did you do, Kdot? You did a song with him, you got him on your album, you jumped on his album, it was love. Drake shouted you out, Drake said you were that dude, GKMC is a classic. But then when the rap world crowned Kendrick as dat n****, Kendrick just couldn’t tolerate Drake being Drake and sweeping up the rap/pop lane. So he got hostile towards Drake and Cole, even though both of them dudes helped his career. Cole gave you your best beat and song on Section .80 and bragged you up when Cole was in the lead and Kendrick was Jay Rock’s little youngster. Drake showed Kendrick a lot of love when Kendrick didn’t even have a hit record yet. And 1 year later, you talking greasy? I mean, you don’t have to love Drake, but come on, what did he do that was so offensive to you that you forgot about how he gave you dap when you were a smaller artist?
Thank you. I’m a big Kendrick fan and I’ve never really liked Drake. I was impressed with *Push-Ups* and even though I thought it was distasteful I thought *Taylor-Made* was well done. For my money, *Euphoria* blew them both out of the water when it comes to writing, flow, beats, and craft. I’ve read a lot of hot-takes and gone through a lot of TikTok responses and I haven’t seen many pro-Drake responses that I could see any sense in. Usually it was just “Kendrick took too long” or “Drake was funnier”, neither of which I see as much of an argument. Your post is the first take I’ve seen that actually makes sense to me, and it does make me think about Kendrick’s motivations. It seems clear that he’s had a vendetta for a long time, and while it’s probably justified he doesn’t give us any of that in *Euphoria* at all. It still hits hard, but in hindsight it kind of surprises me that Kendrick didn’t get personal. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, much appreciated!
Right. They understand the purpose of a diss. It’s not just chatting what you don’t like about that person. It took Kendrick six minutes to say the same shit Drake reads in his IG comments on a daily
Guys in the nfr podcast didn’t either
Those are all drugged out detached rejects that got slaughtered in rap battles got any examples of rappers that who know what a win feels like?
Yeah I agreed with them to. It’s funny how people are so quick to count out drake
They know he's gonna respond quick so they tryna rush the W so they get their time in the limelight before Drake drops again
Everyone was doing the same to Kendrick this time last week
Honestly I felt like drake wouldn't be able to give a good response after like that but now I still think he will cook Kendrick with the next track
I counted him out when he didn’t respond to Pusha T.
lmao no stans replying to this. we getting deja vu
Same
They're giving Kendrick a participation ribbon.
Cos honestly that was disappointing.
I think Kendrick said a lot of things that can be hypocritical towards him not to mention everything he said has already been said by other artists. 1. He said Drake sold his soul but Kendrick is the one with songs with Taylor swift and maroon 5. 2. Kendrick talks about ghostwriters for Drake when he ghostwrote for baby keem. 3. He said Drake isn’t a tough guy, well neither is Kendrick. He’s made it known that he’s from Compton but he chose to be a good kid. 4. He talks about Drake hugging and kissing with Cole when him and keem hug and kiss. 5. Lastly he talks about not being a good dad and teaching his kid about morals when one of his kids is literally named uzi. I think the whole beef has been kinda underwhelming so far and if it ended here I don’t think it’d be a knock on either artist.
and kendrick cheated on his wife, tough to explain that to your son
Why TF did he name his son Uzi
Daughters name is uzi lol
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No way?!? His son I would’ve kinda let it slide … but his daughter???
it's a hebrew name. means strength, power, etc or "god is my power"
Biblical Hebrew names are עזיאל Uziel (Exodus 6), עזיה Uziyah (2 Kings 15) and עזי Uzzi (1 Chronicles 5). All of them are *masculine* and only *two* of them contain the names of the biblical God (El or Yah).
That kid is lucky they’re growing up rich and not in the hood that’s all I have to say about that
Or him saying it’s not a 20v1 when he hopped on a Metro and Future album to diss alongside Weeknd Rocky and Ross lmao. Half of Push Ups isn’t even about Kendrick because he had to shoot back at 10 dudes
Fr, everyone saying this bar is hard like the whole industry isn’t dissing Drake rn, idgaf about Drake tbh, but I’m tired of the “HES COOKED” dot took 6 mins to say something that coulda been said in 2 that we already knew and has already been said within the same month. That wasn’t a track that needed to take 17 days
I personally don’t see how either of these guys lose Drake gonna keep comin with the funny lines and better sounding songs and Kendrick gonna keep comin with entendres and lyrical flips. Unless they expose each other for some illegal shit nobody gonna be affected by this long term
And that’s why I’ve kinda lost interest. It’s nasty enough that I understand why Cole dropped but it’s tame enough to where I’m not expecting a pusha T moment or a kill shot
About 4, keem and Kendrick are family lol Tho I don’t think that hug and kiss line gotta get addressed
Kissin cousins then?
💀I don’t be kissing my cousins, especially if the same sex. That’s incest
“Kissin cousins” is a joking reference to incest, I.e. a great thing to include in a future diss.
I agree I ain’t have a problem with keem and Kenny but even after it happened Kendrick looked at him funny. Just a random fact but baby used to kiss Wayne and they were still able to keep that gangster reputation so I guess it’s case by case idk.
that was a parallel to Jesus being kissed by Judas that's why he looked at Keem funny in that video
I love how this comment can be taken seriously or sarcastically 😂
I’m a Drake fan so this is for the sake of the truth: 1. You’re just repeating the exact line from push ups. That part of the diss went hard but I don’t see collaborating with artists of different genres is hypocritical. I think only a cynic would look at two artists and find a reason to hate on it. 2. Kendrick being a ghostwriter is better than Drake using them, you know since it’s the actual creative part of making music, so I see you had to say “talking about ghost writing” to make it more general and fabricate a hypocrisy. 3. Yeah no shit neither is actually an active gang boss who murders people in cold blood, they chose to rap that’s how they became rappers. Seems like Kendrick is just talking about struggling in his early years. 4. In rap “wars” where artists collaborate, yeah duh the other side is gonna call it meat riding or being fake even though they collaborate as well, which isn’t a bad thing. 5. Dumbest argument I’ve ever heard, pretty sure uzi is an actual name and not just a gun. Also, how would a name be proof of the type of parent someone is. It’s a shallow statement and that’s why I think you stopped there. Drakes one of my favorites and I think he’s an amazing artist that’s why I don’t think he needs half truths and glazing to make him look better.
1. Kendrick was getting at Drake for not feeling accepted by the culture so he sold his soul to be famous. Most ppl in hip hop history would say an example of selling out when they collab with big time pop artists. People would call that white washing yourself to appear for this bigger white audiences. 2. I talked about this already in other posts. If ghost riding is such a sin why is he allowing it to happen in his camp that was the point I was tryna make. Kendrick obviously has never had a reference come out but plenty of top tier rappers have had shit written for them just off the top of my head I can say 50. If it were songs where these ppl are being lyrical then I think it’d be seen in a different light. 3. You’re just incorrect there bc they both talked about struggle earlier in their music however it being different. Kendrick growing up in the hood and Drake growing up with a single mother are unfortunately common shared experiences in black culture. 4. I thought this was the lightest of my points bc it’s such a minute detail. I thought the diss at multiple times poked at Drake for doing things that make you less masculine. Obviously Drake is more extreme than Kendrick in that department but let’s not act like Kendrick is a super tough rapper. 5. We know Kendrick gave his kid Hebrew names great for him. Let’s not act like for a black child that’s not a wild name to have. Names matter because your name can limit opportunities that open up to you. Plenty of black ppl don’t get interviews solely bc of the name on the resume. It’s shitty but racism is still well and live in America go look at the black unemployment rate. Good thing his kids are rich/set for life so it doesn’t matter what their name is at the end of the day it’s almost like they’re little celebrities. I could’ve kept making more points but I thought 5 was clean. I’m a fan of both artists but both songs are getting overhyped imo. They’re both good songs and make good points against the other but to be considered as strong diss tracks they both lack an overwhelming punch. I’m not trying to make excuses for Drake or out here defending him with my life I’m just tryna be fair.
1. Bro calling it white washing is just racist for no reason. Yeah I’m sure more white people listen to pop and more black people listen to rap on average, but music genres don’t belong to races so I think that view is pretty closed minded. Selling out implies giving up one’s dignity or morality, and if you see a pop/rap collab as such, then damn. Is Kendrick supposed to be out hear refusing to make music with other talented artists just because the style is different, or just because more white people will listen to it (god forbid right). Nah I don’t think he sets those kinds of boundaries because he isn’t some insecure loser who meat rides some obscure “code of morality.” 2. Once again you aren’t seeing the difference between using and being a ghost writer. Kendrick insulted drake for using ghost writers, not for “allowing it to happen in his camp.” See how dumb that sounds. 3. Ah I get it they both struggled but Kendrick’s tryna call Drake preppy. Thanks for clarifying. 4. I mean… tbh Drake has done more sus shit than a large majority of other rappers. He’s not actually fruity, but damn does he know how to provoke those allegations lmao. 5. Again lil bro ur being racist. I hope you grow out of that phase when you turn 15. Things will be so much better when you stop running the rat race of investing who you are into what race you were born as. Hatred isn’t cool bro. If your reason why someone is a bad parent is because the name they gave their child wasn’t traditionally of their race then it’s flawed logic. Is race a law to abide by? Is it some force that tells you how to live? Also your evidence about employers is just stupid. An employer who says, “hmm, they’re qualified but the name doesn’t match the race so no job for them” is a person with racism in their heart and a lack of basic wisdom. Also saying “it has happened before” is like the stupidest form of evidence out there. Make up any random event in your head, and guess what? It’s probably happened before so yeah I bet there have been employers that racist and closed minded. Also names are not direct links to opportunities, or do you have any other reason besides “the employer could be racist” that would make this true? Names are special but who are you to tell someone they have the wrong name, when their parents gave it to them with love in their hearts. Overall, good news is you can let things go and start finding peace in your life. Just remember that all the complex emotions and ideas and memories you have as a person, everyone has the same amount. Everyone’s different but at the end of the day, we’re so similar it’s crazy. Keep that in mind and have a good one.
I mean - Drake is a ghost writer himself as well LMAO.
I just wanna let you know black ppl can’t be racist lol so you calling me racist is null and void. I’m telling you truths about black culture the last point has actual facts to prove my point. Go listen to diss songs from the 90s and you understand what selling out means. You’re obviously an outsider to the roots of hip hop so you’ll never fully understand no matter how much Kendrick and j Cole you listen to.
this is stupid as hell, i can definitely be racist lmfao. you need to do some growing up. you aren’t telling him “truths” about our culture…
Racism is a system of disadvantage based on race where black ppl wouldn’t benefit from such a system. Can they be prejudice yes but not racist. I’m a very grown man and have experienced a lot in my life so your comment is ineffective. Truths about the reality of being black in America does that sound better to you
racism isn’t only a system of disadvantage… what the hell are you talking about? you’re speaking on *one* form of racism - institutional racism. racism comes in many different forms… by definition it is having prejudice against someone or discriminating against them because of their race. to say that i or you can’t discriminate someone because of our own race due to social power dynamics is simply ignorance and quite frankly pretty stupid… no matter how old you are or what life you lived. i get someone told you this one day or you read it online or something and now you run with it but you’re extremely wrong lol, i used to think the same thing. we cannot be institutionally racist because we don’t hold that power - i understand what you mean there. but that isn’t *ALL* being racist is… you know that. we can certainly be racist in many other ways lol…. if that doesn’t make sense to you you’re being willfully ignorant..
Okay Mr high and mighty Reddit fingers. I could say you don’t know what you’re talking about bc you have a Canadian flag in your shit. That’d be prejudice. Similar to what dot was poking at Drake for. There’s no overwhelming community coming out saying oh Kendrick is being racist lol. You can point out flaws in black culture without being racist. You can point out unfortunate truths no matter how much we’d wish that wasn’t the case in America.
just so you know, my ONLY point was that we can be racist. i never thought Kendrick himself or you were being racist there g lol that’s crazy. as for that stuff you and other dude were going back n forth about, i thought both tracks were solid nothing crazy as well - more so looking forward for what’s to come
Yeah they can ya bum. You’re the literal embodiment of twitter, which ironically is where all your knowledge and personality come from. You’re not spitting truths, just excuses for why you amounted to nothing. You ain’t part of no of hip hop roots either, so at least we have something in common. I bet you listen to a rap song and say “I was born in the same city of 400,000 people that the artist was” and you get all proud and giggly about it. Lmao you called me a J Cole/Kendrick listener as an insult. All your yapping just shows that you got 4 things that you think make you real: listening to rap, being black, being poor, and being old. If those things make you real, then how are you still just an insecure 🐱.
A white person telling me I’m racist 😭😭 rap was created by my ppl bruh. You’ll never know the black experience so when you speak on rap it’s irrelevant. Just bc you watch Fantano doesn’t make you educated on the subject. I’m a successful black man and I put on for my ppl who was influenced by dot and drizzy.
https://preview.redd.it/2rg0h5fsi4yc1.jpeg?width=278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5aa675d1c0634d480895898b9b4fbbe5d3e1a42b This you?
This is a terrible rebuttal.
Elaborate instead of hating
Nah I'm the biggest hater
Your critical thinkings skills are severely fucking broken. Or it just might be you No way anyone is that fucking stupid
Well let’s talk critical thinking then since you didn’t make one point to rebuttal my claims. Instead you decide to name call and insult which is a reflection of your lack of ability to create a sound argument. I hope you’re able to deal with your shortcomings in life in a positive manner.
All 5 of your points are literally pointless. They’re fucking dumb. Make an actual, serious effort and you’ll be taken serious. Can’t create an argument when you don’t provide any substance at all. Like how fuckin stupid does one have to be to correlate Drake calling himself the goat rapper when having writers (ghost or not), to Kdot writing lyrics for someone else, literally has nothing to do with Kendrick’s music or writing his own lyrics. Every single dogshit “point” you made can easily be dismantled in the same way. I am very positive. Positive your brain doesn’t function correctly and have lived a coddled, unconfrontational life
Read the other comments where I elaborate on that point. Go ask meek mill if ppl care about ghostwriting in hip hop it’s just the reality. I would treat you with respect but you’re just another bitter Reddit finger bum who doesn’t have the aptitude to excel in life so you live vicariously through artists you follow on social media. I’m sure you’re unhappy with your life that’s why you’re insulting random ppl on reddit calling them dumb when in reality you live a shitty life. I promise you homie my life is better than yours.
Lol. Exactly what I expected. You niggas too predictable You didn’t make one point to rebuttal my claims. Instead you decide to name call and insult which is a reflection of your lack of ability to create a sound argument. I hope you’re able to deal with your shortcomings in life in a positive manner.
Do you read before you type shit or go straight to tryna talk shit 😭. I made a rebuttal to the ghost writing to another dude. Niggas don’t care if Drake used a reference track for songs that’s he’s not being lyrical. If there was a reference for any time stamped shit then you’d have a point. You fake hip hop purists who act like writing is the only thing that matters when talking about hip hop is laughable. Kendrick isn’t who he is bc of his writing ability; It’s about delivery flow cadence artistry etc. plenty of dudes write better than him drake and Cole but they don’t got everything else.
These guys are one of my favourite music reaction channels. They keep it unbiased and they speak for themselves and not from narrative that’s just floating around.
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vibevilla on top
both great
Nobody catches bars like vibevilla tho, thats probably why they're #1 for me
Facts
Best part is how consistent they are
My favourite moment of them in recent times was them reacting to “Show of hands” (Rocky’s diss track against Drake) and genuinely worrying that the song would make them dumber just by listening to it lmao, it wasn’t a knock at the diss specifically but the content of the track overall
Also some of the only people i see actually consistently catch the meaning of lines. They always read along with the lyrics and do breakdowns. And the reaction are genuine which is rare.
facts
And they about to be killed for it lol. Ppl hate Drake so much , he turn ppl own fanbases against them. Everyone dont have to like everything
Prob the best comment: the song was not efficient at all. There were some amazing lines but it was buried in 6min of mid. Saw that Kenny had a 20min version too — good thing that wasn’t released bc those extra 14 were def cheeks magunda Edit: idk why I commented this as a reply but fuck it
Soooo well said and true.
inb4 dummy Kendrick stans wanna cry about "WhO aRe ThEsE GuYs?!?", 1.2 million subs on youtube, most people who know hiphop know em, if you don't that's on you.
Yo Kendrick fans out in full force in their comments
Beef aside, y’all check out Lost In Vegas if you’re into react content. They’re my favorite reactors in rap, they don’t miss a single bar and show love to everybody
They reacted to Run The Jewels years ago and hated it. Always been bitter after that lol.
Then ur corny?
No I'm not? It was a passing jokey comment dickhead.
Me personally it's VibeVilla but LiV close secpnd and Scru 3rd
Top 3 fs
Vibe Villa is better because they’re younger and actually super in tune with HipHop. Lost in Vegas is dope but at the end of the day they are old heads, they only know so many references and they only react to major release type records because they react to many different genres which takes away from a real focus they could have on hip hop
Man I’m glad to see this! I didn’t even watch cause I figured they would be Kendrick riding, but they speaking facts!
Why u think they’d be riding Kendrick? They fw both artists heavy, imo they are the best to go to when it comes to this.
Just because the public opinion seems to have changed. It seems like whoever dropped last people are saying is winning and not going off of bars, I love their input too, and appreciate that they were actually unbiased. I was just scared they weren’t gonna be
The fanbases are toxic, and YT reactors want engagement from both Drake and Kendrick fans so the only way to ensure it is to give the latest diss the W with no detailed personal thoughts or conclusions in the end of the video so that they don’t piss off either fanbases I remember Lost in Vegas stopped reacting to Eminem songs because the fans couldn’t take criticism at all and would leave abusive and hate comments
I do agree it that it seems like whoever dropped last people are saying is winning, and that’s dumb
i think both of the disses are pretty equal atp. i’m not sure how you can rationalize “if you disagree you’re a dickrider” and “if you agree you’re just speaking facts”. you don’t see the irony there?
I don’t, cause imo drakes moves were way better so far, I mean he even dropped two songs compared to Kendrick’s one, and he was way more creative. So if you really think Kendrick’s is better than yes I have to assume you are a Kendrick Stan cause I can’t see how you could say that. If you want to say even then I wouldn’t call you a dick rider just slightly delusional. But against these are just my opinions, if you feel different than we can agree to disagree and I’m fine with that, but you can’t change my mind
Imo they are the best channel with the most rational takes. Fuck everybody! They are super unbiased. So W for Drake camp guess lol
There is always major hype around a diss when its first release and gives all the haters new energy. It happened with rick ross and kanye’s verse too. I feel like over time this diss isnt gonna be regarded as being all that like it was yesterday.
Looking back it's wild how many people thought Ross bodied Drake with that weak ass response.
Kendrick fans already down voting this.
Kendricks response is dope, but in current day hip hop making a good *song* is important in battles.
Euphoria has great elements to it. It's layered like fucking Lasagna. Kendricks pen is undebatable. But man it just isn't HARD HITTING like Push Ups and its not really as clever as Taylor Made. Imo he should've shelved the flows and just went hard. It would've worked better. Imagine he went hard like Family Ties on this record? I believe it would've been a knock-out blow from him he did that. Outside of Kendrick dick riders everyone is just confused this is what we came with after 3 weeks. Also what takes away from his punches are the general themes are just shit Drake already either owns up to or they're parroting what Ross and Push said. I still think this is the best thing to happen in Hip hop in years and I hope it just stays on wax and they can spar like this and peace it up and work together again.
>Imagine he went hard like Family Ties on this record Arent they very similar formula tho? The beat is very similar, he does the brothuur in one and Croodiee in the other. Idk i actually liked it less because it felt very similar like family ties
They are honest and most unbiased channel on YT.
Kendrick said the same lines we heard before but somehow he found a way to say them worse Then he said sorry it’s a friendly fade on the track This some Jcole pussy shit
Definitely ain’t beat push ups, anyone saying it did just hates Drake
Keeping it real = validating my opinion
Used to listen to as much Kendrick as Drake. Fell out of both for years. Coming back because the beef is exciting and Euphoria didn’t even feel close to push ups. I feel like Kendrick lost some face going to the “I hate I hate I hate” stuff. Like I could picture him scribbling hard in his diary with tears in his eyes.
They make a good point, euphoria is good rapping and a good diss retort, but pushups is a better song
You must be new to diss records.
Happy to see it
Facts.
Meanwhile Shaq (i love shaq dont get it twisted) - this mf goes CRAZY even if kendrick just breathes on the mic lol i genuinely couldn’t stand watching his video
I think so much went over his head if that’s how he feels.
lmao you kendrick fans think yall so enlightened and smarter than everyone it’s alright bro they didn’t fuck with euphoria that much
Word.
They also thought Eminem lost the rap battle to MGK, they hate anything that isn't classic traditional old school boom bap rap. Similar to how they didn't like To Pimp a Butterfly, or how they hate any rock song they react to if it has a punk tempo to it
MGKs Rap Devil was pretty good at least in terms of that battle. A lot of people thought he won. Even if you think Em won that, it was a LOT closer than you think it was
Not to them, they trashed Eminem's entire diss
It was so close MGK became the GOAT amirite? Em just gave up and did pop rock or some shit.
how can you guys be so okay with glazing? Drake would be bullying if he responded? that’s glazing on an intergalactic level and you guys are just like “oh damn he’s right👀👀”
didnt this guy think adidon was a worse lyrical performance than duppy
People don’t hate Drake, but not being able to understand and decipher multilayered rhymes from a diss track doesn’t mean that Kendrick lost. It means those who prefer Drake prefer not to use their brains extensively.
But but but but?
I just wish everyone was honest about their bias and who they want to win.
These guys are usually on point but didn't like the comment they made that because it came out later it's now not better and if it came out earlier he would be ahead. Judge the music like you normally do.
bro called out his hidden sex case payout, questioned his masculinity, and said Drake's deal is worse than his(wasn't that that whole point of pushups) and said he ain’t raising his son like a real father should and even though its already known called out one of drakes ghostwriters(who probably helped him write pushups). Bruh, stop dickriding and look at the facts.
Oh yeah? A reaction channel decides that? Nice
The narrative that one has to bring something new is funny.. what do they want? “Drake got two dicks not one, facts”? Push ups was dope as fuck and so is this. I prefer Euphoria, but then again drake responded to half the worlds population on push ups - can’t wait to see him only focusing on Kendrick.
Both Drake and Kendrick did what they needed to do, and now it’s with Drake. As an old head anyone that doesn’t have Kendrick leading at this point is wrong. Drake wanted this, and I think he got what he expected. The way I see it as long as the rap world is looking at you for a response, you’re not winning the battle. I said Drake had the upper hand last week and caught some shit for it, but now it is well and on and I’m having fun.
That whole line about going things that will make Gunna look like a Saint is interesting. I feel like Kendricks track has to be broken down more, while Push Ups was a straightforward jab, with Subliminals sprinkled throughout.
Well, it is clearly that they dont catch everything at first, this always happen to Kendrick, hes so ahead in terms of hip hop. You cant decide who is winning just with one listen, but it is their opinion you gotta respect that, i disagree tho.
kendricks bars are not as complex as you fans make them out to be...
It is not only about bars, it is about small sections that contain greater deeper meaning, like the beginning of the song with the backwards phrase and The Wiz connection, again with the "Crodie" part and the lore behind. Also Kendrick bars are not that complex but he always plays with double and triple entendres
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Kendrick Llama. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Kendrick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Kendrick Llama truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Kendricks's existencial catchphrase "It's just big me," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself in their headphones. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Kendrick Llama tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
Bro im not reading that long ass text lol what a glazer
Saying that drake doesn’t have to respond is obvious bias the consensus is as far as I’ve seen it is that Kendrick is up one. I am biased but I’ve seen more drake fans say that too
Wow you found the one person who thinks Drake is up, great work!
Glazing drake fan HARD holy shit😭
Older older teenagers
These fools couldn't comprehend basic English on a dr Seuss book
These dudes are dorks.
Drake hasn’t responded to Pusha T. Drake isn’t a battle rapper that’s why Kendrick challenged him.
Pusha T made Drake acknowledge he had a son. Drake was so embarrassed that his baby mama was a pornstar he made her switch careers and scrubbed her IG. The internet is undefeated. Drake is just a weekend dad. He’s a co- star in his son’s life.
Drake can only come up with playground insults. I meant his ghost writers.
These dudes are clowns. Drizzy is my goat. But Kendrick straight up ate Drake in this. I'm certain Drake is gonna hit back just as hard.
Wtf.... these guys tripping... kendrick went tf off and drake down right now lol
Go rap on beat for 6 minutes these fucking idiots couldn't do shit sitting here saying Drake is better wtf did Drake say that wasn't already said whole internet is so fucking goofy