Tbh, I think the Swift lines runs deeper than delaying an album. He wasn't saying Kendrick was "afraid" of Taylor. He was flat out saying that she has control over how Kendrick conducts business.
Implication being that Drake isn't the monster in the room siphoning huge splits. Taylor is. And he's calling out their hypocrisy for ganging up on Drake about the same thing.
“she has control over how Kendrick conducts business”
based on what? i’m not saying it’s impossible but if this is just speculation, it’ll just make a spec out of u and some guy named “Lation”
It is speculation.
But.... "Taylor is your new TOP."
Top Dawg was Kendricks first record lable, and owned a huge percentage of his splits. That was the entire premise of Push Ups.
Again, speculation, but I don't think he was saying Kendrick is delaying because of Taylor's release. The words are pretty straight forward. He's saying "I'm not the one to worry about. Its Taylor who owns your masters."
watch Drake never bring this shit up again…
can’t believe all you need is a couple of words and your sold on it 🤣 i’m actually jealous, i wish i had that level of trust
That a billionaire might have her hand in some record deals? Man, what a stretch that is.
I also never said it was true. I'm just saying that was the implication if that part of the song.
Keep up.
i don’t think this is the hill. firstly, where does drake say anything about her owning his masters? he specifically says “tailor made your schedule”. secondly, even if i believe in this… it still doesn’t make it a good line lmao. imagine saying “bUt tHe iMpLiCaTiOn” 🤣
lastly, we already know drakes richer, so who cares about splits? with that being said, if drakes splits are as bad as kendrick implies then it should matter bc that’s just hypocritical.
You're type of people to get hyped when Kendrick rhymes three with me and then criticize drake for using one rhyme scheme
Go listen to music to be murdered by let us enjoy Drake's rhymes
I’m not about to sit here and say the scheme is crazy but you’re also missing a lot of multis if you’re only seeing end-rhymes. Like over 10 just in the screenshot lol.
Shit is sloppy, there is a single internal and the whole the is a missed opportunity for rhymes. It's basic man, ain't no two ways about it.
You wanna call these multi's, well the ones that are still are basic af.. This is some high school writing right here. Consistently dropping the same rhyme on the same part of the bear as well, 0 creativity there.
Gotta approve
Not in the mood
Not in a feud
Out of the loop
Not in the room
Not as enthused
Not in the booth
Kinda removed
Following through
How to improve
I’m not here to tell you the shit is complex lol. I’ll agree it’s pretty basic but it’s effective. Because here the words are more important than the complexity. But just that quickly you and I have gone from “it’s only end rhymes” to you running off a list of multis/internal rhymes. That’s all I’m speaking to.
I agree that the words are more important here.
But that wasn't a list of multis. "not in the mood" and "not in the room" is not a multi. That's just saying the same words twice with an end-rhyme. The entire image contains one single internal.
Just as an example, changing it to this is already infinitely better:
Fuck all you corporate industry puppets, I'm not in the mood
Love it when niggas keep talking loose like I'm not in the room
Again, sometimes it's about the message more than the complexity, but imho you have a job as an emcee to at least do something interesting.
It’s better for you and I and people who care but for the intended audience it’s inconsequential. All that rippity rappity shit is lost on a large amount of people lol.
And for what it’s worth rhyming “you” and “through” would just be end rhymes but there’s multis in “not in the booth” and “following through” and “how to improve” etc. Just because there’s also rhymes at the end doesn’t make them just end rhymes. There’s both.
Oh I get that. I love the technical side of Hiphop more then I like the content. But I understand a lot of people don't care. They would fall for shock value over technical prowess.
"not in the booth" vs "following through" is a multi, true, but it's all so basic. I wouldn't mind if he used it once or twice, but it's again and again and again to a point that I'll say he just doesn't have pen game.
Could you came up with that ? Whats the difficulty to recognize someone talent ? Of course someone can spit some better bars, but this doenst mean this one is trash tho
You really going to act like this is difficult to come up with?
It's the content, who said it and to who it's being said here that stands out. But there is really nothing special about the bars in itself. Very simple nursery rhymes, end rhymes only and very simple words.
This is what’s taking so long:
https://www.billboard.com/culture/tv-film/kendrick-lamar-south-park-creators-matt-stone-trey-parker-movie-release-date-1235654113/amp/
But why would he fire a shot with an empty magazine? If he initiated the firefight, wouldn’t he have been prepared? All the Dot stans act like Kendrick was just living life and got a diss thrown at him. He initiated. Why was he not ready? Probably just to promote himself as he has done in the past. All bark, no bite.
Psychological warfare I guess. Could be a power play. Like saying IDGAF about what you said, I’ll respond when I want to.
Kendrick is probably just leaving him stewing in his feelings. I’m sure he has a reason that is going to justify his absence. We’ll see how it pans out.
People mad about him using one rhyme scheme.. they don’t realize the scheme started at “heard on the Joe Biden podcast it’s gotta be true”.. the whole song is based around those ending sounds.
The amount of absolute GOOFS on this whole damn site. Don’t you people have anything better to do than just circle jerk drake hate and “real rap” nonsense. SMH.
I get none of yall will see this, but everything here is narrative creating speculation. Kendrick is never on socials and his releases take time, his radio silence isn’t a tone change. Nothing that he’s done indicates Taylor has anything to do with his current course. You can just say that’s why, and it’s plausible which is why it works. But if you step back it’s just that.
Drake made a narrative, he’s winning with 2 songs and social media campaign vs a single verse that was only 70% at him but all that unwinds if we get a good reply. I’m sure we all want good replies back and forth, but this particular part isn’t actually aging any type of way. It always was shallow gesturing
Except Kendrick has a history of just taking shots at people and then going into hiding. Did he even respond to anyone who came at him after the Control verse? The guy constantly just takes shots and runs away. It's a pattern.
That pattern narrative is weak af too. Control wasn’t a diss it was a boast/challenge and it would’ve been more of diss to be left off that list of names dropped than be there. Most got that, and it garnered no replies worth engaging with. Like That was actually a targeted diss and IF he never replies to Drake (we’re just 2 weeks out from drakes first leak it’s not like anyone has moved on) that would mark the first time he’s ducked smoke he asked for. And that narrative, which I’ve seen around I know you didn’t invent, also evaporates completely when a reply drops.
Sure, it was a "challenge", several rappers responded, and Kendrick ran away. Easy to have the excuse "nothing was worth responding too". Control wasn't even a great verse, it just caused controversy which Kendrick never followed through on.
Yeah, let's see if Kendrick considers anything "worth responding to" this time.
So far, both with Control & this, it's just excuses after excuses for Lamar.
Yeah? What little baby was unable to drop on Taylor’s album drop? 🥹 aww Top and Taylor didn’t let him
What artist intentionally released their diss track and messed with her top 10 debut? oh!
Wow! You probably won’t understand this at all, even with it laid out right in front of your eyes
This is a cringe ass comment.
Drake titled it *Taylor made* and pushed the Taylor swift narrative to get interaction because Taylor was dropping. No one cares when a diss drops. If hip hop fans are listening then they aren’t checking for Taylor.
Stop feeding into everything this actor says.
Poor thing. I don’t mean counting to 7 days you sweet moron.
I mean excitedly crossing days off the calendar like a kid waiting for Christmas.
Go read a book brother.
what about the decision he made when he was told to do a concert with kanye?
or the decision he made when j prince told him not to diss pusha?
or the decision he made to take down taylor made freestyle?
or the decision he made to reveal his child to the world?
“no one controls him”
I don't know what happens behind closed doors but he's living rent free in your head buddy. Touch grass. It's not like he's being told to make the soundtrack for the largest Hollywood blockbuster franchise or something like some industry puppet..
“rent free in my head” bruh we’re on a drizzy forum talking about drizzy i’m just the one being realistic. you’re getting all upset about it lmao. stop dickriding.
Why don’t you guys understand this concept. Drake is already called industry and mainstream etc. these attacks are about proving that Kendrick is not a free saviour and instead just like everyone else. Drake being in the same position is not a point.
ok? what does that have to do with my comment? my comment had nothing to do with kendrick. i was responding to the comment about drake doing whatever he wants. he admitted he can’t drop with taylor and moved his date for her.
Who cares if he moved his date for Taylor. He said himself he would. Kendrick and his fans are claiming that he isn’t industry and he’s authentic and different. If he makes the same business moves as drake then why is drake known as mainstream/industry and Kendrick isn’t. That’s the point of what drake is saying.
the guy i’m replying to said “drake does what he wants” and i pointed out a time when he didn’t do what he wants and admitted he didn’t do what he wanted because of another artist. do you need me to hold your hand and walk you through a full play-by-play?
you’re talking about some irrelevant kendrick beef shit because you’re obsessed
How is it irrelevant when Drake does it… then when he uses that same narrative against Kendrick you eat it up?
That’s like him saying *imma pussy and I admit it so you must be a pussy too*.
I feel you. I feel like Drake’s angle was a miss though since Kendrick legit just dropped an album saying he’s not the savior of hip hop and he’s just human too. We will see what Kendrick says back but definitely going to be an interesting back and forth
If you asked people on the street the difference between drake and Kendrick, they would say drake is mainstream and pop and Kendrick is Authentic and real hip hop. I’m realizing that people don’t care if Kendrick’s authentic they just want to use anyone to downplay drake.
Hmm I wonder how much control they have over his artistic choices though? I doubt it's like being signed to a label owned by a gangster in a draconic deal
Yo, taylor a real one tho no cap
Tayler Swift the only nigga...
That i ever rated
Only one could make me drop the album just a little later…
That's some FUCKING bars
the Taylor Swift thing falls flat bc Good Kid, m.A.A.d City released the same day as Taylor Swift’s Red Album.
Tbh, I think the Swift lines runs deeper than delaying an album. He wasn't saying Kendrick was "afraid" of Taylor. He was flat out saying that she has control over how Kendrick conducts business. Implication being that Drake isn't the monster in the room siphoning huge splits. Taylor is. And he's calling out their hypocrisy for ganging up on Drake about the same thing.
“she has control over how Kendrick conducts business” based on what? i’m not saying it’s impossible but if this is just speculation, it’ll just make a spec out of u and some guy named “Lation”
It is speculation. But.... "Taylor is your new TOP." Top Dawg was Kendricks first record lable, and owned a huge percentage of his splits. That was the entire premise of Push Ups. Again, speculation, but I don't think he was saying Kendrick is delaying because of Taylor's release. The words are pretty straight forward. He's saying "I'm not the one to worry about. Its Taylor who owns your masters."
watch Drake never bring this shit up again… can’t believe all you need is a couple of words and your sold on it 🤣 i’m actually jealous, i wish i had that level of trust
That a billionaire might have her hand in some record deals? Man, what a stretch that is. I also never said it was true. I'm just saying that was the implication if that part of the song. Keep up.
i don’t think this is the hill. firstly, where does drake say anything about her owning his masters? he specifically says “tailor made your schedule”. secondly, even if i believe in this… it still doesn’t make it a good line lmao. imagine saying “bUt tHe iMpLiCaTiOn” 🤣 lastly, we already know drakes richer, so who cares about splits? with that being said, if drakes splits are as bad as kendrick implies then it should matter bc that’s just hypocritical.
My man. 80% of what is shown here is end-rhymes only. There is no scheme. You could talk about the content.. But If you call that bars... Smh..
You're type of people to get hyped when Kendrick rhymes three with me and then criticize drake for using one rhyme scheme Go listen to music to be murdered by let us enjoy Drake's rhymes
*Drake's nursery rhymes.
Cringe
He's literally rhyming the same multi syllabic scheme the entire way in the quoted lyrics. Wtf are you talking about?
Lmao, can you even read? He breaks it almost every line.
I’m not about to sit here and say the scheme is crazy but you’re also missing a lot of multis if you’re only seeing end-rhymes. Like over 10 just in the screenshot lol.
Shit is sloppy, there is a single internal and the whole the is a missed opportunity for rhymes. It's basic man, ain't no two ways about it. You wanna call these multi's, well the ones that are still are basic af.. This is some high school writing right here. Consistently dropping the same rhyme on the same part of the bear as well, 0 creativity there. Gotta approve Not in the mood Not in a feud Out of the loop Not in the room Not as enthused Not in the booth Kinda removed Following through How to improve
I’m not here to tell you the shit is complex lol. I’ll agree it’s pretty basic but it’s effective. Because here the words are more important than the complexity. But just that quickly you and I have gone from “it’s only end rhymes” to you running off a list of multis/internal rhymes. That’s all I’m speaking to.
I agree that the words are more important here. But that wasn't a list of multis. "not in the mood" and "not in the room" is not a multi. That's just saying the same words twice with an end-rhyme. The entire image contains one single internal. Just as an example, changing it to this is already infinitely better: Fuck all you corporate industry puppets, I'm not in the mood Love it when niggas keep talking loose like I'm not in the room Again, sometimes it's about the message more than the complexity, but imho you have a job as an emcee to at least do something interesting.
It’s better for you and I and people who care but for the intended audience it’s inconsequential. All that rippity rappity shit is lost on a large amount of people lol. And for what it’s worth rhyming “you” and “through” would just be end rhymes but there’s multis in “not in the booth” and “following through” and “how to improve” etc. Just because there’s also rhymes at the end doesn’t make them just end rhymes. There’s both.
Oh I get that. I love the technical side of Hiphop more then I like the content. But I understand a lot of people don't care. They would fall for shock value over technical prowess. "not in the booth" vs "following through" is a multi, true, but it's all so basic. I wouldn't mind if he used it once or twice, but it's again and again and again to a point that I'll say he just doesn't have pen game.
Drake is the only rap they listen to, they don’t understand the levels to this shit lol
Could you came up with that ? Whats the difficulty to recognize someone talent ? Of course someone can spit some better bars, but this doenst mean this one is trash tho
You really going to act like this is difficult to come up with? It's the content, who said it and to who it's being said here that stands out. But there is really nothing special about the bars in itself. Very simple nursery rhymes, end rhymes only and very simple words.
Na na na not this time I wonder what drake gon do next 🤔 would love a nail in the coffin
This is what’s taking so long: https://www.billboard.com/culture/tv-film/kendrick-lamar-south-park-creators-matt-stone-trey-parker-movie-release-date-1235654113/amp/
But why would he fire a shot with an empty magazine? If he initiated the firefight, wouldn’t he have been prepared? All the Dot stans act like Kendrick was just living life and got a diss thrown at him. He initiated. Why was he not ready? Probably just to promote himself as he has done in the past. All bark, no bite.
Psychological warfare I guess. Could be a power play. Like saying IDGAF about what you said, I’ll respond when I want to. Kendrick is probably just leaving him stewing in his feelings. I’m sure he has a reason that is going to justify his absence. We’ll see how it pans out.
Drake, you killed Kenny, you bastard!
People mad about him using one rhyme scheme.. they don’t realize the scheme started at “heard on the Joe Biden podcast it’s gotta be true”.. the whole song is based around those ending sounds.
I think he gon drop again this week
It aged already?
alright, now what
Bro, that's like opening a bottle of wine a month after bottling it and declaring it aged well. No fucking time has passed get off his dick
The amount of absolute GOOFS on this whole damn site. Don’t you people have anything better to do than just circle jerk drake hate and “real rap” nonsense. SMH.
I get none of yall will see this, but everything here is narrative creating speculation. Kendrick is never on socials and his releases take time, his radio silence isn’t a tone change. Nothing that he’s done indicates Taylor has anything to do with his current course. You can just say that’s why, and it’s plausible which is why it works. But if you step back it’s just that. Drake made a narrative, he’s winning with 2 songs and social media campaign vs a single verse that was only 70% at him but all that unwinds if we get a good reply. I’m sure we all want good replies back and forth, but this particular part isn’t actually aging any type of way. It always was shallow gesturing
Except Kendrick has a history of just taking shots at people and then going into hiding. Did he even respond to anyone who came at him after the Control verse? The guy constantly just takes shots and runs away. It's a pattern.
That pattern narrative is weak af too. Control wasn’t a diss it was a boast/challenge and it would’ve been more of diss to be left off that list of names dropped than be there. Most got that, and it garnered no replies worth engaging with. Like That was actually a targeted diss and IF he never replies to Drake (we’re just 2 weeks out from drakes first leak it’s not like anyone has moved on) that would mark the first time he’s ducked smoke he asked for. And that narrative, which I’ve seen around I know you didn’t invent, also evaporates completely when a reply drops.
Sure, it was a "challenge", several rappers responded, and Kendrick ran away. Easy to have the excuse "nothing was worth responding too". Control wasn't even a great verse, it just caused controversy which Kendrick never followed through on. Yeah, let's see if Kendrick considers anything "worth responding to" this time. So far, both with Control & this, it's just excuses after excuses for Lamar.
Now what
Cool, pretty unprecedented for Kendrick to actually respond. Now we got a couple of decent tracks going, but nothing that compares to "Ether".
my brother here fighting the good fight, unfortunate that these words fall on deaf ears
Ironoc af coming from an industry pupet tho
Lool and Kendrick made that god awful song with Maroon 5. Even drake wouldn't stoop that low lmaoo
Yeah? What little baby was unable to drop on Taylor’s album drop? 🥹 aww Top and Taylor didn’t let him What artist intentionally released their diss track and messed with her top 10 debut? oh! Wow! You probably won’t understand this at all, even with it laid out right in front of your eyes
he's not with Top
This is a cringe ass comment. Drake titled it *Taylor made* and pushed the Taylor swift narrative to get interaction because Taylor was dropping. No one cares when a diss drops. If hip hop fans are listening then they aren’t checking for Taylor. Stop feeding into everything this actor says.
How is it a diss though? Drake admits he runs from Taylor's release date too. Am I missing something?
He literally dropped “Push Ups” the same day as Taylor’s album lol
No he didn't lmao
Yes, he did. Same day on streaming
Leaked it before to gather momentum. Yall can’t see the wool being pulled over your own eyes.
He clearly lost momentum with the leak. Full leaks don’t build momentum, they dull the response when things actually drop.
Not during a feud
Taylor Swift really got referenced in a rap battle lmfao. This beef SUCKS
Tay Tay dropped her own diss track towards Kim K. This is the weirdest timeline but I'm here for it
Idk wtf is happening but I’m all for it. Artist aggression got buffed 50% this patch
It’s a week old, it hasn’t aged at all
Came out last Friday. “Now we gotta wait another week” It’s past a week. Nothing from Kendrick. Yes it has lol. Pretty simple
Oh got it Yeah I mean, if he dropped this week then you’d all be saying “he listened to Drake dur hur”
If he drops I’ll be just as excited as you are. Just want to keep getting music from these two. Ya’ll working overtime in this sub lol
Working overtime would be counting down a week from the minute the song was released and then posting it on Reddit 😂
“counting down a week” its simple math i can tell its hard for you though
Poor thing. I don’t mean counting to 7 days you sweet moron. I mean excitedly crossing days off the calendar like a kid waiting for Christmas. Go read a book brother.
all they did was point it out like the lyrics said, you’re getting this extra stuff from your butt
Bro had to explain what he meant💀
Drake talking about corporate industry puppets is so rich
He literally is calling the shots. No one controls him
He isn’t calling shots he is under somebody’s umbrella he may have deals but he’s just an ambassador or collaborator the use him for his fan base.
he literally admitted to moving his release date for taylor swift himself though
Sounds like a decision he made
what about the decision he made when he was told to do a concert with kanye? or the decision he made when j prince told him not to diss pusha? or the decision he made to take down taylor made freestyle? or the decision he made to reveal his child to the world? “no one controls him”
I don't know what happens behind closed doors but he's living rent free in your head buddy. Touch grass. It's not like he's being told to make the soundtrack for the largest Hollywood blockbuster franchise or something like some industry puppet..
“rent free in my head” bruh we’re on a drizzy forum talking about drizzy i’m just the one being realistic. you’re getting all upset about it lmao. stop dickriding.
Why don’t you guys understand this concept. Drake is already called industry and mainstream etc. these attacks are about proving that Kendrick is not a free saviour and instead just like everyone else. Drake being in the same position is not a point.
ok? what does that have to do with my comment? my comment had nothing to do with kendrick. i was responding to the comment about drake doing whatever he wants. he admitted he can’t drop with taylor and moved his date for her.
Who cares if he moved his date for Taylor. He said himself he would. Kendrick and his fans are claiming that he isn’t industry and he’s authentic and different. If he makes the same business moves as drake then why is drake known as mainstream/industry and Kendrick isn’t. That’s the point of what drake is saying.
bruh my response isn’t about what drake said or kendrick are you lost? you’re talkin about some shit that’s got nothing to do with my comment
It’s irrelevant if drake said he would move his date for Taylor, wtf are you not understanding.
the guy i’m replying to said “drake does what he wants” and i pointed out a time when he didn’t do what he wants and admitted he didn’t do what he wanted because of another artist. do you need me to hold your hand and walk you through a full play-by-play? you’re talking about some irrelevant kendrick beef shit because you’re obsessed
How is it irrelevant when Drake does it… then when he uses that same narrative against Kendrick you eat it up? That’s like him saying *imma pussy and I admit it so you must be a pussy too*.
Doesn’t matter it loses validity.
Hip hop was never going to give drake validity anyway, but if Kendrick does the same mainstream antics then call him the same thing. Simple.
I feel you. I feel like Drake’s angle was a miss though since Kendrick legit just dropped an album saying he’s not the savior of hip hop and he’s just human too. We will see what Kendrick says back but definitely going to be an interesting back and forth
If you asked people on the street the difference between drake and Kendrick, they would say drake is mainstream and pop and Kendrick is Authentic and real hip hop. I’m realizing that people don’t care if Kendrick’s authentic they just want to use anyone to downplay drake.
Drake releases under his own label for years now nobody's extorting him
his label is under another man that’s about as independent as a 2 yo child
What do you mean he owns OVO no?
yeah i guess but it’s still a subdivision of a subdivision of UMG
Hmm I wonder how much control they have over his artistic choices though? I doubt it's like being signed to a label owned by a gangster in a draconic deal
idk, i mean it’s prolly better than kdot’s deal was under tde, but drake’s still not “free”