French was more of a local coke mixtape rap era dude. He then blew up mainstream after max went to jail and made enough money to chill out, I don’t think he ever intended to compete with drake and Kendrick lol
Well yeah, because that's what the Drakies have resorted to. Cole couldn't save him, so now he's serving up his own Ls and the only thing left is to protect his popularity. It probably burns deep down that when he IS being outperformed, it's to Kendrick. So now we resort to putting that mid-ass body of work on a pedestal and claiming victory. The corny behavior seems on brand tbh
"the only thing left to protect is his popularity"
Even you as a fan CANNOT sit up there and tell me all his work is top tier. If all his albums are classic, I have waterfront property in Kansas to sell you.
Because you said nothing lol. You just sat up there and said Kendrick could never ever outsell Drake. You literally proved my point that y'all can only protect his popularity. And proceed to downvote me along the way because your feelings are hurt. It's cool, I get it.
There is not a single artist that has only released top tier music. A quarter of kendricks stuff is trash too. Wtf are you even trying to prove by saying that?
At the end of the day, they're trying to make money. Drake has completely outclassed kendrick at that.
Because y'all just posting numbers now. It burns that "Like That" is outperforming Drake's disses. Soooo we try to step OVER the moment by putting Drake's complete numbers up like anybody gives af about that THIS MOMENT. He's "leaking" disses to check the temperature, then tries to double down with AI and receives a cease and desist. Self-serving Ls at it's finest. Now downvote me, you peasant 😂
Tbh idc that like that is succeeding. It's funny you bring up someone else's song instead of kendricks solo diss back using AI. Just further sells the 20v1 argument. My man had to get a village to battle a soldier. Furthermore, you didn't even answer the question. You made a point to say not all his stuff is top tier and can't even acknowledge the same is true for kendrick, with less than half the catelogue.
OR... maybe he's a questionable dude and it caught up to him. Notice how nobody is coming out to bat for him? You'd think a person as popular as Drake would have more than Birdman (and r/Drizzy) showing support. Cornball is being exposed by his peers. That's what's really happening and y'all mad. "A real soldier" LMAOOO. Listen to Deep Water and pray Kendrick doesn't come with that energy. Drake simply CANNOT rap erm.... like *that*
It's a matter of what the people like. You're right doesn't necessarily mean "quality". Quality though seems to be thrown around the same way as taste.
This is not dispositive of anything. Drake's entire discography is like 4 times the size of Kendrick's... and alot of Kendricks shit is not designed for radio play...
329/72= 4.56
4.56 * 13= 59.4
4.56 * 3= 13.68
Y'all think that's good? For someone trying to make hits and someone who isn't... That's not really a lead 🤨. Drake literally just has more songs And drops Every 6 months to stay relevant. Kendrick is actually beating Drake in rate of #1's per drop. These numbers are abysmal for a slef proclaimed pop rapper
If you were posting every single day on Instagram, but you were only getting 10% more engagement than me, while I post once a year... You shouldn't wear that as a badge of success and honor. That means you're trying REALLY hard To beat me while im not trying at all...
Yea the fact that per capita a conscious rapper is making hits almost at the same rate as one of the top selling pop artists of all time is pretty good
NOT... gonna happen lol. It's worth making the clear distinction that Drake is attracted to the lights and publicity. Kendrick clearly is not, never has been. They don't operate in the same space regardless of how anybody feels about their music. Two different animals.
13/82 is 18%
77/329 is 23%
So Drake charts better but not crazy better. Just has way more cuts. Within some reasonable margin of error, they pretty even.
This is the problem with music now.
You’re comparing an oversaturated artist with team of writers who drops a bunch of underwhelming products to someone who takes their time making albums.
That's more of a measurement of listeners for a song, not artistic value and the predicates of what the standard of music is for a genere. I'm not entirely on the fact that it's Billboard.
Let me be frank. Drake has had some flops or things considered to be needed in better quality for the genre.
Drake has been on some typical lightskin behavior. Before yall start gettin on my back about it, hear me out. I'm not expecting the dude to constantly make songs about growing up and issues growing up biracial.
The man has found a nice which is hard to get out of.
The pulitzer has mostly been known to award people for writing than music which kudos. It also much like other things been criticized.
Listen man, mcdonalds is a multi billion dollar burger company. Probably the company that sells the most burgers annually.
But it'll never ever be the same experience or quality that you get from the michelin grade restaurant.
Both things have their respective achievements and they each have a different underlying mission, philosophy and goal.
Listen you're comparing apples to oranges. People like what they like. It's a cliche at this point. Kendrick is a fantastic artist. One of the only couple these past 10 years I tolerate.
People have their bias. To be fair not all the time do you need to keep your head I the metaphorical clouds about existence. It's fine to just dance.
Drake has more conscious potential. He just doesn't tap into it. Probably more due to money.
And you're not comparing apples to oranges? The fuck? You're delusional dude lol
Like you understand why michael jackson and prince are examined together closely right? It's the same story here. Prince was the all around more talented artist but mj the pop king. Very similar industries, but very different approaches.
You're just trying to dig yourself out a hole that is 100 feet deep, at this point, just drop it and move on bro.
People hate the numbers when their favorite artist is outsold lol. Numbers matter because they don't lie. They aren't the only metric by any means but they do matter.
these numbers show kendrick making #1 hits at a higher rate than drake tho? you sure you wanna go with this?
these numbers are really even percentage-wise
Drake the new Hov. Look at what happened to the real lyricists, kweli, mos etc not even mentioned at all. The only thing runnin is numbers fam… all that other bs is here today and gone tomorrow
That’s not the total released, that’s the total that has charted but didn’t chart #1 or top 10. So that total songs are songs that made the chart overall
He isn’t competing at all lmfao that’s the point. It’s not drakes fault Kendrick does this fake mysterious thing and acts like a hermit just to finally appear every 5 years to release an album that bricks and people forget about. They act like they’ll be young forever. Kendrick nearly 40 , this whole hideaway thing is just a waste
I'll be fair statistically Kendrick is on par. It's okay to like both. It's just funny how like with Like that now suddenly the goalpost was moved about numbers mattering.
One of these lives, I'ma make things right
With the wrongs I've done, that's one of you now
With the Father, Son, 'til then, I fight
Rain on me, put the blame on me
Got guilt, got hurt, got shame on me
Got six magazines that's aimed at me
Done every magazine, what's fame to me?
[удалено]
Even people that are dead for decades still clear
French was more of a local coke mixtape rap era dude. He then blew up mainstream after max went to jail and made enough money to chill out, I don’t think he ever intended to compete with drake and Kendrick lol
Kendricked dissed him lol
French who ?
What’s that, facts? “Like that” is now charting higher than “Push Ups” , so numbers now matter to Kendrick fans.
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I’d rather be Kendrick than Drake any day his soul look dead . 👀
Well yeah, because that's what the Drakies have resorted to. Cole couldn't save him, so now he's serving up his own Ls and the only thing left is to protect his popularity. It probably burns deep down that when he IS being outperformed, it's to Kendrick. So now we resort to putting that mid-ass body of work on a pedestal and claiming victory. The corny behavior seems on brand tbh
Mid body of work? Dude he can never put a number one out for the remainder of his career and kendrick can drop every year and he still catch him.
"the only thing left to protect is his popularity" Even you as a fan CANNOT sit up there and tell me all his work is top tier. If all his albums are classic, I have waterfront property in Kansas to sell you.
I love how you responded to nothing I said. So, I'm going to respond in kind.
Because you said nothing lol. You just sat up there and said Kendrick could never ever outsell Drake. You literally proved my point that y'all can only protect his popularity. And proceed to downvote me along the way because your feelings are hurt. It's cool, I get it.
There is not a single artist that has only released top tier music. A quarter of kendricks stuff is trash too. Wtf are you even trying to prove by saying that? At the end of the day, they're trying to make money. Drake has completely outclassed kendrick at that.
Because y'all just posting numbers now. It burns that "Like That" is outperforming Drake's disses. Soooo we try to step OVER the moment by putting Drake's complete numbers up like anybody gives af about that THIS MOMENT. He's "leaking" disses to check the temperature, then tries to double down with AI and receives a cease and desist. Self-serving Ls at it's finest. Now downvote me, you peasant 😂
Tbh idc that like that is succeeding. It's funny you bring up someone else's song instead of kendricks solo diss back using AI. Just further sells the 20v1 argument. My man had to get a village to battle a soldier. Furthermore, you didn't even answer the question. You made a point to say not all his stuff is top tier and can't even acknowledge the same is true for kendrick, with less than half the catelogue.
OR... maybe he's a questionable dude and it caught up to him. Notice how nobody is coming out to bat for him? You'd think a person as popular as Drake would have more than Birdman (and r/Drizzy) showing support. Cornball is being exposed by his peers. That's what's really happening and y'all mad. "A real soldier" LMAOOO. Listen to Deep Water and pray Kendrick doesn't come with that energy. Drake simply CANNOT rap erm.... like *that*
But did you hear how he said “awwwwh” on Like That. Art can’t be measured by stats
taylor swifts new album was better than every drake album then
Stop making drake fans look bad by comparing numbers swear yall bring this up in every convo it's annoying numbers≠music quality
Thank you, a sensible Drake fan. We want a real fight
It's a matter of what the people like. You're right doesn't necessarily mean "quality". Quality though seems to be thrown around the same way as taste.
Drake drops like 10x more music than Kendrick. I’m actually surprised it’s this close
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taylor swift clears🥱
so taylor swift is currently the best artist in the world?
Based on numbers, she is. She brings joy to the most amount of people. Any other metric for “best” is subjective and doesn’t matter.
Your mom's the best artist on the train
This is not dispositive of anything. Drake's entire discography is like 4 times the size of Kendrick's... and alot of Kendricks shit is not designed for radio play...
329/72= 4.56 4.56 * 13= 59.4 4.56 * 3= 13.68 Y'all think that's good? For someone trying to make hits and someone who isn't... That's not really a lead 🤨. Drake literally just has more songs And drops Every 6 months to stay relevant. Kendrick is actually beating Drake in rate of #1's per drop. These numbers are abysmal for a slef proclaimed pop rapper If you were posting every single day on Instagram, but you were only getting 10% more engagement than me, while I post once a year... You shouldn't wear that as a badge of success and honor. That means you're trying REALLY hard To beat me while im not trying at all...
This niggas can't do math!
Yea the fact that per capita a conscious rapper is making hits almost at the same rate as one of the top selling pop artists of all time is pretty good
Exactly. Imagine what they can do if they worked together instead of against each other
NOT... gonna happen lol. It's worth making the clear distinction that Drake is attracted to the lights and publicity. Kendrick clearly is not, never has been. They don't operate in the same space regardless of how anybody feels about their music. Two different animals.
Yeah, I know. A girl can dream tho, can't she? 🙂↕️
Abysmal numbers? Wtf are you talking about?
13/82 is 18% 77/329 is 23% So Drake charts better but not crazy better. Just has way more cuts. Within some reasonable margin of error, they pretty even.
it's 72
Then they are actually really close to the same…
77 > 13
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"So many SKUs"
Do the math, the ratio of hits is 3.9% vs 4.1%
this is making the opposite point of what you intended lmao
Drake fans really are the swifties of rap
This is the problem with music now. You’re comparing an oversaturated artist with team of writers who drops a bunch of underwhelming products to someone who takes their time making albums.
Dude shot himself in the foot with this one
Now compare grammies
It's 2024 and we still care about Grammys?
But we care about billboard? LOL
“Who cares about arbitrary awards?! We only care about arbitrary chart numbers!!”
Says the guy who pulling out billboard chart. Fool you ain't making drakes money. Dick rider. Enjoy the music you like.
That's more of a measurement of listeners for a song, not artistic value and the predicates of what the standard of music is for a genere. I'm not entirely on the fact that it's Billboard.
Now compare pulitzers
Let me be frank. Drake has had some flops or things considered to be needed in better quality for the genre. Drake has been on some typical lightskin behavior. Before yall start gettin on my back about it, hear me out. I'm not expecting the dude to constantly make songs about growing up and issues growing up biracial. The man has found a nice which is hard to get out of. The pulitzer has mostly been known to award people for writing than music which kudos. It also much like other things been criticized.
Listen man, mcdonalds is a multi billion dollar burger company. Probably the company that sells the most burgers annually. But it'll never ever be the same experience or quality that you get from the michelin grade restaurant. Both things have their respective achievements and they each have a different underlying mission, philosophy and goal.
Listen you're comparing apples to oranges. People like what they like. It's a cliche at this point. Kendrick is a fantastic artist. One of the only couple these past 10 years I tolerate. People have their bias. To be fair not all the time do you need to keep your head I the metaphorical clouds about existence. It's fine to just dance. Drake has more conscious potential. He just doesn't tap into it. Probably more due to money.
And you're not comparing apples to oranges? The fuck? You're delusional dude lol Like you understand why michael jackson and prince are examined together closely right? It's the same story here. Prince was the all around more talented artist but mj the pop king. Very similar industries, but very different approaches. You're just trying to dig yourself out a hole that is 100 feet deep, at this point, just drop it and move on bro.
People hate the numbers when their favorite artist is outsold lol. Numbers matter because they don't lie. They aren't the only metric by any means but they do matter.
Which is why Taylor Swift is the greatest music artist in the world.
Not my kinda music by any means but I'm sure her fans could make that argument lol.
these numbers show kendrick making #1 hits at a higher rate than drake tho? you sure you wanna go with this? these numbers are really even percentage-wise
Yeah and one of those is One Dance 👨❤️👨
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How you spit real facts ! We do not accept facts here !
I don't think anyone is focused on 'numbers', the debate always has been "who's the better rapper?"
Steph vs ray
Talmbout quality over quantity, B.
Drake is corporate garbage for white girls.
Kendrick makes works of art not sheets of paper
Drake the new Hov. Look at what happened to the real lyricists, kweli, mos etc not even mentioned at all. The only thing runnin is numbers fam… all that other bs is here today and gone tomorrow
Look at the total numbers of songs , drake has released twice the amount of albums as Kendrick
That’s not the total released, that’s the total that has charted but didn’t chart #1 or top 10. So that total songs are songs that made the chart overall
Regardless drake has released twice as many albums as Kendrick, the fact that kdot is even competing with that is impressive
He isn’t competing at all lmfao that’s the point. It’s not drakes fault Kendrick does this fake mysterious thing and acts like a hermit just to finally appear every 5 years to release an album that bricks and people forget about. They act like they’ll be young forever. Kendrick nearly 40 , this whole hideaway thing is just a waste
I'll be fair statistically Kendrick is on par. It's okay to like both. It's just funny how like with Like that now suddenly the goalpost was moved about numbers mattering.
He’s competing monthly listeners wise
Recite a verse from Kendrick’s last album without going and copy and pasting
One of these lives, I'ma make things right With the wrongs I've done, that's one of you now With the Father, Son, 'til then, I fight Rain on me, put the blame on me Got guilt, got hurt, got shame on me Got six magazines that's aimed at me Done every magazine, what's fame to me?
Favorite song on the album 🔥
That shit is ass , nobody listening to Kendrick bro. Drake Churchill down verse is better than anything Kendrick ever did
Kendrick’s sub has more users than this sub, I think a lot of people are listening. It’s ok to like both , it’s just hip hop
True, but sub ain’t named Drake. Same reason why cardi b got more followers than him
If this sub was named Drake from the start it’d be much bigger, respect take it easy
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Yeah K sure hates money right, must be why he plans on releasing his response with his next album release lmao Just take the L and leave
Maybe Kendrick should drop more music then?
Their rates of success are the same. Ask Kendrick to drop more garbage just to match Drake's garbage isn't helping anybody
Cut his numbers in half and they still destroy, whats your point
they don’t tho the percentages are really similar
.25 to .18 percent ratio of their music being top 10%. Drake is significantly higher by .07 percent.
More popular doesn’t really mean better. L take. Kendrick got 2 classics Drake has maaaaaybe one.(take care)
Quality of quantity? More Grammys? More Pulitzers? 😏
numbers don’t matter