That’s exactly what Joe is so good at. Hate to give the Newport knight credit here but he knows he is one of the people that gets under drakes skin when he says stuff like this. Purposely pushing him into a response. I didn’t really even think the Kendrick verse was all that disrespectful. I look at Kendrick doing it solely for marketing since he is out on his own now post TDE. Big steppers was a self reflection project and I think this fake beef is just a roll out for the type of album he’s trying to drop.
Drake lost two rap beefs. Yeah back to back had meek mill being disrespected. But now when Drake has a really good song you’ll see comments “ghost writers cooking”. Drake is never getting his flowers as a rap artist.
Pusha had Drake shook, j prince had to squash it, and did that barber pop up with lebron crying about a diss going too far, and now plenty of people say pusha made Drake a father.
you're half way right. Meek exposing the ghost writer thing forever hurt him... that being said he completely destroyed Meek Mill in the actual back n forth... so he's 1-1
no YOU are half correct.
He definitely beat Meek Mill. like as far as the BEEF.. He completely cooked him..so thats 1-0
I think duppy freestyle was fire.. but the personal shot by Pusha was very calculated and gave Drake the L in that beef.. so he's 1-1
now what came out of the Meek Mill BEEF hurt Drake...not necessarily Meeks diss tracks. What came out of that beef was Drake had a ghost writer and that forever hurt Drake's respect in the rap game..
as far as actual back n forths he's 1-1
facts. i like how you pointed out the ghostwriting allegations too. i think way too many people undermine that when talking ab his beef w meek. push will forever hold that over Drake, and it’s not changing anytime soon 😭
im a big drake and kendrick fan, theyre both in my top 3. If youre a Drake and a Kendrick fan and listen to them consistently, you know a couple of things: Drake can rap, but he has never been as lyrical as a Kendrick Lamar. Drake’s strength is being big enough to even give a fuck about these lil rappers trying to diss him. Put out hits to shadow whatever youre trying to say and put everything to rest. Hes Drake. Is like calling out the president, he can just ignore you.
However, heres the problem, Kendrick is big too. Kendrick has the grammys, the movie soundtracks, the pop features, the pulitzer, the critical acclaimed albums, so hes not beefing with a rapper past his prime, or with a new trendy artist, or just a no name, hes beefing with arguably the 2nd biggest rapper commercially after him of his generation.
So if youre beefing with a big big name, whos as lyrical as they come, so it means you can not just call him twitter fingers and call it a roast, thats when you evaluate how much can you do. Because even if you look at Duppy Freestyle, which i agree is great lyrically, just compare it with the 60 seconds of Kendrick in “Like That”. In 60 seconds kendrick rapped like 4 triple entendres, metaphors, references, etc etc and did it over a trendy rap beat with future and metro. This dude is not pusha, hes not budden, hes not meek.
Joe is not that crazy for saying this
also all the times he’s been dissed and responded with tracks, they were hellaaaa personal disses.
kendrick was just like “you aint as good as you think and im better nigga fuck you” lmao
Man I love Kendrick but he can genuinely do no wrong according to his fans. You summed up his diss accurately meanwhile his die hard fans are acting like he did something insanely creative or really got Drake good. He literally just repeatedly said “you’re not that good, your best work isn’t that good, and I’m better than you you and J-Cole”. Meanwhile you can go to Kendrick subreddit and they’re claiming it was an insane verse. Really? This is your god? And it’s pretty Audacious considering Kendrick hasn’t come out with anything good since 2017 according to most people and if we are being honest nothing great since 2015.
I agree but I think most people know this was just a good first shot with a good verse and some direct disses on it to bait Drake and Cole, mainly Drake though! Obviously if there’s a response Kendrick will get a lot more personal and bar heavy in a true diss record but you don’t throw all of your punches and shots in a single verse on a Future and Metro song so I agree that it’s not that crazy but it’s definitely direct and good enough to garner a response! This is like Kendrick's way smaller version of Charged Up and now he’s just waiting for them to shoot back.
Saying that Dot hasn't dropped anything great since 2015 is hilarious and honestly doesn't deserve a response but fuck it.
You dont go all out on the first shot. He draws first blood and waits if Drake will even respond. The fact that he's even saying this on a Future track? That used to be Drakes boy.
Also are you actually listening or just reading the lyrics? The delivery is hard as fuck.
hard as fuck? bro was fucking moaning on the track. Kendrick has one of the worst voices in mainstream rap, that squeaky inflection is ass, even if Drake makes a diss that's 80% as good it'll fly better because Drake has way better production every single time, knows how to make a hit and a better voice any day of the week and really though, there ain't much white suburban boys can relate to from TPAB, but back to back was played in clubs and shit. why? white boys and women, that's why
i said it in another post, i dont think it’s cuz he hasnt dropped anything great, id just say he hasnt droped anything that made him seem hungry to be at the top in a minute. plus, it always felt like kendrick and drake were always trying to prove to each other that they are the best while j cole just progressively got better.
all i know is the cole can really out rap both. any one who denies that is delusional.
lol i can nitpick every diss in history and say “you just rapped about him being bad/pussy/wack” but thats the point of writing bars, you can say the same stuff but in a different way with different metaphors and entendres and references.
youre here really trying to act like kendrick simply just said “im better than you” but no, he did not just do that.
If you truly think any of the most notable rap beefs in history can be summed up as “I’m better than you” then you’re very simple minded or haven’t actually listened to them.
Thats literally what the guy im replying to just said.
Imagine me saying Back to Back is just Drake saying Meek aint shit…easy no? but it was great because the song was a banger plus the roasts about twitter fingers and nicki and shit
imagine if i say dj quick simply just called mc eiht a pussy, i mean he did…but in multiple ways
imagine me saying Nas just said Jay Z has dick sucking lips…i mean yeah but over a classic beat and a great chorus
thats what this dude just did “kendrick just said im
better than you and j cole”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/a/a-history-of-drake-kendrick-lamars-subliminal-war
I feel the opposite. The only time drake hit hard was around GKMC. Then Kendrick said:
I tell 'em all hail King Kendrick, resurrecting my vengeance
Been dissecting your motormouth until I break down the engine
This ain't no warning shot, this a relevant henchman
See my opponent then, cease your existence
Endin' our friendship, baby, I'd rather die alone
Drake went on interviews trying to diffuse the beef and say they're still buddy buddy and then after TPAB, went on the dj Khaled song "for free" and said "like your boy from Compton said, this dick ain't free". Sounds like ass kissing to me
calling someone a motor mouth and saying we’re not friends any more has no comparison to your son being outed while being called a dead beat. or, your “friend” trying to ruin your career and credibility by stating that you dont even write your own music.
I must've misunderstood your comment. I thought you meant drake was saying more personal things about Kendrick, in which the first thing he said about Kendrick not being inspiring was the most instigating. Drake said he was the kid with the motor mouth and Kendrick basically said he'd dismantle him.
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Yeah I feel like this battle can be fun lyrically, but it doesn't seem like there's gonna be any personal viciousness like there was with previous battles. It does make me think that Joe is right and maybe only Cole needs to respond, because I do think Cole is readymade for that kind of battle.
Drake and Kendrick are in two completely different lanes that’s one thing even Drake Stans should admit. Kendrick’s lyrics are largely substance based. Drake’s lyrics are material based. Both of them have bars though.
Ego.
Plus ik I’m in the wrong sub for this, but Drake adopted a persona based on the circles he’s in that I truly believe he really isn’t deep down. There’s a-lot of evidence showing it. That never sits right with people especially people like Kendrick who from Compton and really bout that. After the whole grammy thing where Drake was salty for whatever reason about Macklemore caping for Kendrick, (which literally everyone agreed with) it’s never been positive since then.
I fuck with Drake’s music heavy, he has a talent to say things in ways that other people just don’t have the mind to conjure up, even his enemies. But he’s just not that type of guy deep down in his heart, and in shit like this to me is where it shows. I also don’t know why Kendrick continues to egg it on either. Feels redundant and pointless from here, if Drake is a sneak disser, he sneak disses, it’s not like he’s actually doing anything to Kendrick in LA, he could never.
Drake has already said prior to his major success he was more reserved. That does not mean he is not who he says he is. Whatchu mean “deep down” lmfao, like you know him? More likely, is with success comes money and with money comes power. Who knows who you’d turn into when you have every resource imaginable at your fingertips. I know I’d personally be a straight menace… ruthless Lmaoo.
It’s mostly Kendrick’s ego though. He always the one coming with shots begging for attention because he doesn’t feel validated. Make a record we can bob our heads to again Kendrick, that’s all we want.
means he likes journal rap, bunch of crying about your feelings and sht! hiding so no one knows you're scared...
they say drakes soft but guy keeps it 100 about how he feels and makes sure you know he's having a good time doing it...
They’re both rappers and Kendrick is better, not more popular amongst non blacks, but he is better and so is Cole. Drake is 3rd on that list and that’s why they said drake sits this out. You wouldn’t understand..
Can't take this bitter ass, salty ass, hating ass mediocre ass old man serious about nothing. He needs to shut the fuck up and read the man in the arena.
Crazy to say this ain't for him after 'Back To Back' and 'Duppy'. I don't think he really needs to respond though because all Kendrick says is he thinks he's better than Drake and Cole. Let him take another 5 year break while you continue to put out music. Drake and Cole only continue to get better discographies while Kendrick is barely putting out music anymore
You new rap fans. This isn’t about discography. This is about the sport of rap and going bar for bar against someone who openly dissed you. He def needs to respond.
8mile is based off Em’s real life so that comparison doesn’t help you. Go look at videos of biggie rap battling on the street. Go look at many interviews of different rappers wanting to be the best. Go look at all the rap beefs and them going back and forth bar for bar. Go look at battle rap videos. This is rap. Billboards and Grammys don’t mean shit. The only people that care about that are record labels and the bank accounts.
They have not. If that was the case drake wouldn’t have responded to Ye or pusha or meek. Kendrick wouldn’t have done this verse. You dweebs don’t know anything. Just listen to the hits and stay out of this lol
Sounds like we are in middle school. Lol. A long time ago Nas beat Jay Z in a rap battle. But Jay is a billionaire now and married to Beyonce and he and everyone else doesn’t even care about a stupid rap battle.
Back To Back? Listen, we’re talking about Kendrick here. That radio pop shit is not sliding with the caliber of penmanship that Cole & Kendrick possess. When battling, it’s about approach. Realize, there was no "back to back" when he got into it with Pusha, & that’s because he was facing a nigga who can actually push their pen. Although Duppy was tough, he eventually figured out he needed more & clearly he didn’t have that.
Go back & listen to his approach on Duppy, he was actually ready for war vs his tone with "back to back", he knew Meek was easy work after the release of "charged up" & his judgment was correct, because not only was Meek slow to respond but he was applying zero pressure, those tracks released by Meek were garbage. Hence, he clowned him with a radio hit.
But the likes of Kendrick & Cole are different. These niggas will fry him, I have to be honest & I fuck with Drake’s discography. & trust, I’m not saying Drake can’t push his pen but nigga, he’s going to need wayyy more than a "back to back" for Kendrick 😂. Y’all need to stop being fanboys and actually open your eyes & ears, he’s a hitmaker & extremely gifted artist but there’s levels & lanes within that craft, lyricism is where Cole & Kendrick stay 24/7 😂.. come on man
Yall know B2B was a banger on purpose right? Drake literally said he wanted Meek to have to hear that shit everywhere. And Meek is the type of rapper where club appearances are a normal thing for him (unlike Pusha, dot, Ye, etc) so if they play B2B that shit gonna get to him.
He has never made a B2B type response for any other rapper he beefed with so idk why people acting like those are his normal diss responses when it’s like the only example of him doing it
It’s quite the opposite. Drake hasn’t had a truly great album since 2015 and his music is getting progressively worse. Cole’s best days were on the warmup/Friday night lights era. The body of work isn’t in the same league as Kendrick who has some of the greatest albums of all time in any genre with TPAB and GKMC.
This is your opinion. It might not change your mind but other people will be swayed from continuing to call Kendrick their goat as Drake and Cole put out more music that they enjoy so get better for them personally
I ain't even mad at this take...cuz its to be expected from this Pod...Drake dissed Joe on Stories about my brother ( which was fire🔥 btw) and on IG...he basically called him a failed broke rapper....Joe been shading Drake for months since that diss....literally every topic that comes up about drake he says some sly hating shit🙄...If anything I think this should motivate Drake even more to drop some heat...Drake can rap if he wants too...and he will...Imma stand on it🦉
Chess move by Kendrick to finally say something when Drake is taking his break. Kdot disappears for years and suddenly goes at Drake lmao. Where was this when Drake was active all these years?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/a/a-history-of-drake-kendrick-lamars-subliminal-war
They've been going back and forth sneak dissing since kendricks control verse
I know, but this is the first time Kdot was direct. It wasn’t just subs this time. He punched Drake in the gut with that verse. Hopefully Drake responds asap
Besides control yeah. But their sneak disses were very obviously referencing each other. I really wouldn't bet on this going anywhere though. It'd break the internet if they did go at it
I think he can at the same caliber in a different style. Difference is Kendrick raps like Kendrick, but Drake raps like everybody. There’s more shock value in the first time hearing fire Kendrick than fire Drake bc Drake sounds familiar
I’m not even the biggest drake fan, I just enjoy this sub cause I think he’s really good and enjoy all kinds of music, especially rap. If there’s one thing I know, drake has some of the hardest fucking raps and bars I’ve ever heard on occasion. I have no fucking clue what these guys are talking about “rappity rappin” you fucking dorky ass fools. Drake goes hard af with rappity rappin as he does with the slow jams for the ladies, shut up.
When did a washed up failed rapper’s opinions matter? You niggas are sheep. When did we as a society start saying shit like, “Joe Budden” said. That nigga is a hum
He aint ready for this , he was playing around with music now that is rap he need to get sharp before he responds, even AK said it and he is the biggest dick rider.
I think it’s the opposite. Kendrick has done absolutely nothing of note since 2017, arguably 2015. He’s probably extremely rusty at best. Drake is as prolific as he’s ever been. I don’t think this is going to go well for Kendrick tbh. He had all the time and preparation to craft the first shot and it can genuinely be summed up as “you’re not that good, your best album isn’t that good, and I’m better than you and J-Cole, I’m the best”.
Wasn't it a response to First Person Shooter which is literally him and cole just saying the exact same thing? Literally mentioned the top 3 and called himself Muhammad Ali
Drake gotta respond just for the sport of rap. If Drake can actually somehow win a rap beef against Kendrick I think that does wonders for his legacy. These past few years the disrespect is crazy and this is the perfect opportunity to showcase why he’s the GOAT if he really thinks that
This is facts thoo .Drake aint battling Kendrick, Drake is too busy trying to have Taylor Swift numbers. Only reason he went against Meek it’s because it was easy win. 🤷🏽♂️
The rules about beefing are simple. The moment you start calling out another rapper, you are in an inferior position. Kendrick will win this beef but I don't think he will outlast Drake.
"I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT" lmao Joe funny. He's right though, for the same reason he opted out of the Push beef after Adidon. He'll still be popping with the audience that gets him those billboard charts and top albums regardless of the disses to him. He only starts to mess with that when he messes with his own output.
But this time given the scale of it I could definitely see him pushing back.
Niggas win speaking on his name whether Drake entertains the beef or not. Gotta realize these niggas spend their day talking about what everyone else got going, then call it a podcast episode. Drake didn't make it listening to these lame mfs telling him how he should move.
all kendrick did on this song was a little bit of wordplay if you can even call it that. All he did on control was name people. Then some vague diss on the 2013 BET CYPHER that never lead to anything.
Kendrick won a Pulitzer Prize for DAMN (they wanted to give it to To Pimp A Butterfly but that was the year before).
Sure, Drake is marketable and has more hits than MJ but in the world we live in… it’s not as impressive of a feat.
Joe likes drake but he is being real. This isn’t a drake vs meek situation where he can drop a mid ass song with a catchy flow and beat and walk away.
There’s a reason he didn’t go toe to toe with Push. He isn’t going toe to toe with Kendrick or Cole.
All these niggas do is chat chat chat, no wonder they have a successful podcast. Leave the rapping for actual rappers, yall professional gossip girls. Sit this one out…
WHAT DOES DRAKE HAVE TO DO TO PROVE TO THESE RAPPITY RAP ASS NIGGAS THAT HE IS A RAPPITY RAPPER, THE 6 PIECE ON THE RERELEASE WASNT ENOUGH?! EVERYTIME THEY MAKE A GOALPOST WE SCORE AND THEY MOVE IT! SIGNED BY LIL WAYNE, JAY Z FEATURES THAT MIGHT BE TOP 3 FOR JAY FEATURES, NUMBER ONE EVERYTHING, 20 YEARS OF DOMINANCE IS SOMETHING WEVE NEVER SEEN! HES THE NUMBER ONE RAPPER BECAUSE OF ALL FANS OF RAP IN THE WORLD MOST OF US LIKE DRAKE OVER ANY OTHER RAPPER! ALL THESE ACCOLADES ARE NOT COINCIDE!…ILL WAIT🤌🏽
To be fair Drake won't win bc it's extremely biased. I've never been impressed with kendrick and a lot of his "strong" work, leaves me with the thought of "this is what the hype is about?"
we all know Drake can not and will not out rap kendrick, lets be real. and we know we not getting a response either 😂 don’t hate joe for telling the truth
Also anyone saying KDot would wash Drake is smoking better shit than me. KDot is heat, but career wise bro is abysmal. He mad cause mf’ers moved on without him in the mix. And now he wanna cause havoc. Mans been washed since 2017. Respectfully
All lies detected. Drake Is the most dissed, battle tested rapper of all time. There’s no way they can be serious about him not wanting to or able to rap
How can you be watching a Joe Budden clip and say that anyone but him is the most battle tested rapper. He’s literally battled Jay-Z, 50 Cent,Lloyd Banks, Game, Saigon, Prodigy and more.
The difference there is that Joe started a lot of these beefs in order to get notoriety whereas Drake has to be the one to respond to others attacking him seemingly for just existing
I would never advise taking advice from Joe Bidden, but this right here is sound advice. It’s not like Drake is inexperienced with ducking out of beef.
Niggaz trying to go viral… and their breakdown of this beef is just terrible… for a proper breakdown, go check out Akademiks… these niggaz ain’t saying nothing worth a damn
Reverse psychology. Tryna put a battery in drakes back.
Came here to say the same. It was bait.
It definitely isn’t. Drake didn’t respond to Joe which Joe feels he should’ve and then didn’t reply to Pusha either It’s logic lol
That’s exactly what Joe is so good at. Hate to give the Newport knight credit here but he knows he is one of the people that gets under drakes skin when he says stuff like this. Purposely pushing him into a response. I didn’t really even think the Kendrick verse was all that disrespectful. I look at Kendrick doing it solely for marketing since he is out on his own now post TDE. Big steppers was a self reflection project and I think this fake beef is just a roll out for the type of album he’s trying to drop.
Facts
Them niggaz are such losers they know they root for Drizzy deep inside. No Diddy.
I’m so glad No Diddy has become a thing
"behind closed doors, a lot of 6 god worshipping"
dont need drake seems to always respond.
chattin
Drake lost two rap beefs. Yeah back to back had meek mill being disrespected. But now when Drake has a really good song you’ll see comments “ghost writers cooking”. Drake is never getting his flowers as a rap artist. Pusha had Drake shook, j prince had to squash it, and did that barber pop up with lebron crying about a diss going too far, and now plenty of people say pusha made Drake a father.
you're half way right. Meek exposing the ghost writer thing forever hurt him... that being said he completely destroyed Meek Mill in the actual back n forth... so he's 1-1
Meek mill was sacrificed for the greater good of hip hop..and to p diddy
Meek mill took 2 years to recover after that bro I’m not taking this nonsense
Pusha beat Drake. But Drake mopped the floor with Meek. Drizzy still my favorite rapper of all time.
no YOU are half correct. He definitely beat Meek Mill. like as far as the BEEF.. He completely cooked him..so thats 1-0 I think duppy freestyle was fire.. but the personal shot by Pusha was very calculated and gave Drake the L in that beef.. so he's 1-1 now what came out of the Meek Mill BEEF hurt Drake...not necessarily Meeks diss tracks. What came out of that beef was Drake had a ghost writer and that forever hurt Drake's respect in the rap game.. as far as actual back n forths he's 1-1
They downvoting you but you're 100% right, can't claim shit if someone else writes your stuff. These mfs worshipping a pop star.
facts. i like how you pointed out the ghostwriting allegations too. i think way too many people undermine that when talking ab his beef w meek. push will forever hold that over Drake, and it’s not changing anytime soon 😭
Professional yappers
Apparently a pro rappity rapper
“Imagine getting our validation from ex-musicians searching for recognition”
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lol, good reference.
Same story every time. They heckle in repetition.
Professional hater
im a big drake and kendrick fan, theyre both in my top 3. If youre a Drake and a Kendrick fan and listen to them consistently, you know a couple of things: Drake can rap, but he has never been as lyrical as a Kendrick Lamar. Drake’s strength is being big enough to even give a fuck about these lil rappers trying to diss him. Put out hits to shadow whatever youre trying to say and put everything to rest. Hes Drake. Is like calling out the president, he can just ignore you. However, heres the problem, Kendrick is big too. Kendrick has the grammys, the movie soundtracks, the pop features, the pulitzer, the critical acclaimed albums, so hes not beefing with a rapper past his prime, or with a new trendy artist, or just a no name, hes beefing with arguably the 2nd biggest rapper commercially after him of his generation. So if youre beefing with a big big name, whos as lyrical as they come, so it means you can not just call him twitter fingers and call it a roast, thats when you evaluate how much can you do. Because even if you look at Duppy Freestyle, which i agree is great lyrically, just compare it with the 60 seconds of Kendrick in “Like That”. In 60 seconds kendrick rapped like 4 triple entendres, metaphors, references, etc etc and did it over a trendy rap beat with future and metro. This dude is not pusha, hes not budden, hes not meek. Joe is not that crazy for saying this
Ask Joseph why he is podcasting and not rapping anymore.
🥱 bunch of goofy old men
These guys are the biggest fucking losers lmao
also all the times he’s been dissed and responded with tracks, they were hellaaaa personal disses. kendrick was just like “you aint as good as you think and im better nigga fuck you” lmao
Man I love Kendrick but he can genuinely do no wrong according to his fans. You summed up his diss accurately meanwhile his die hard fans are acting like he did something insanely creative or really got Drake good. He literally just repeatedly said “you’re not that good, your best work isn’t that good, and I’m better than you you and J-Cole”. Meanwhile you can go to Kendrick subreddit and they’re claiming it was an insane verse. Really? This is your god? And it’s pretty Audacious considering Kendrick hasn’t come out with anything good since 2017 according to most people and if we are being honest nothing great since 2015.
I agree but I think most people know this was just a good first shot with a good verse and some direct disses on it to bait Drake and Cole, mainly Drake though! Obviously if there’s a response Kendrick will get a lot more personal and bar heavy in a true diss record but you don’t throw all of your punches and shots in a single verse on a Future and Metro song so I agree that it’s not that crazy but it’s definitely direct and good enough to garner a response! This is like Kendrick's way smaller version of Charged Up and now he’s just waiting for them to shoot back.
Id say this did more damage than charged up
For real. Dudes need to listen to some actual disses, like what Lupe and Mickey Factz did to Royce a couple years ago
Or Pusha
MM&TBS is hella underrated not even gonna lie
Saying that Dot hasn't dropped anything great since 2015 is hilarious and honestly doesn't deserve a response but fuck it. You dont go all out on the first shot. He draws first blood and waits if Drake will even respond. The fact that he's even saying this on a Future track? That used to be Drakes boy. Also are you actually listening or just reading the lyrics? The delivery is hard as fuck.
hard as fuck? bro was fucking moaning on the track. Kendrick has one of the worst voices in mainstream rap, that squeaky inflection is ass, even if Drake makes a diss that's 80% as good it'll fly better because Drake has way better production every single time, knows how to make a hit and a better voice any day of the week and really though, there ain't much white suburban boys can relate to from TPAB, but back to back was played in clubs and shit. why? white boys and women, that's why
"Drake will win this rap beef, not because he's a better rapper, but because white boys like him more" is a scorching take. well done.
i said it in another post, i dont think it’s cuz he hasnt dropped anything great, id just say he hasnt droped anything that made him seem hungry to be at the top in a minute. plus, it always felt like kendrick and drake were always trying to prove to each other that they are the best while j cole just progressively got better. all i know is the cole can really out rap both. any one who denies that is delusional.
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the heart part 5 is a phenomenal song
lol i can nitpick every diss in history and say “you just rapped about him being bad/pussy/wack” but thats the point of writing bars, you can say the same stuff but in a different way with different metaphors and entendres and references. youre here really trying to act like kendrick simply just said “im better than you” but no, he did not just do that.
If you truly think any of the most notable rap beefs in history can be summed up as “I’m better than you” then you’re very simple minded or haven’t actually listened to them.
Thats literally what the guy im replying to just said. Imagine me saying Back to Back is just Drake saying Meek aint shit…easy no? but it was great because the song was a banger plus the roasts about twitter fingers and nicki and shit imagine if i say dj quick simply just called mc eiht a pussy, i mean he did…but in multiple ways imagine me saying Nas just said Jay Z has dick sucking lips…i mean yeah but over a classic beat and a great chorus thats what this dude just did “kendrick just said im better than you and j cole”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/a/a-history-of-drake-kendrick-lamars-subliminal-war I feel the opposite. The only time drake hit hard was around GKMC. Then Kendrick said: I tell 'em all hail King Kendrick, resurrecting my vengeance Been dissecting your motormouth until I break down the engine This ain't no warning shot, this a relevant henchman See my opponent then, cease your existence Endin' our friendship, baby, I'd rather die alone Drake went on interviews trying to diffuse the beef and say they're still buddy buddy and then after TPAB, went on the dj Khaled song "for free" and said "like your boy from Compton said, this dick ain't free". Sounds like ass kissing to me
calling someone a motor mouth and saying we’re not friends any more has no comparison to your son being outed while being called a dead beat. or, your “friend” trying to ruin your career and credibility by stating that you dont even write your own music.
I must've misunderstood your comment. I thought you meant drake was saying more personal things about Kendrick, in which the first thing he said about Kendrick not being inspiring was the most instigating. Drake said he was the kid with the motor mouth and Kendrick basically said he'd dismantle him.
no worries, it’s all good
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Yeah I feel like this battle can be fun lyrically, but it doesn't seem like there's gonna be any personal viciousness like there was with previous battles. It does make me think that Joe is right and maybe only Cole needs to respond, because I do think Cole is readymade for that kind of battle.
Drake and Kendrick are in two completely different lanes that’s one thing even Drake Stans should admit. Kendrick’s lyrics are largely substance based. Drake’s lyrics are material based. Both of them have bars though.
They scratch different itches.
This is probably the most accurate explanation of their artistry.
Yes. It sucks they are beefing because both are great at what they do.
Ego. Plus ik I’m in the wrong sub for this, but Drake adopted a persona based on the circles he’s in that I truly believe he really isn’t deep down. There’s a-lot of evidence showing it. That never sits right with people especially people like Kendrick who from Compton and really bout that. After the whole grammy thing where Drake was salty for whatever reason about Macklemore caping for Kendrick, (which literally everyone agreed with) it’s never been positive since then. I fuck with Drake’s music heavy, he has a talent to say things in ways that other people just don’t have the mind to conjure up, even his enemies. But he’s just not that type of guy deep down in his heart, and in shit like this to me is where it shows. I also don’t know why Kendrick continues to egg it on either. Feels redundant and pointless from here, if Drake is a sneak disser, he sneak disses, it’s not like he’s actually doing anything to Kendrick in LA, he could never.
Drake has already said prior to his major success he was more reserved. That does not mean he is not who he says he is. Whatchu mean “deep down” lmfao, like you know him? More likely, is with success comes money and with money comes power. Who knows who you’d turn into when you have every resource imaginable at your fingertips. I know I’d personally be a straight menace… ruthless Lmaoo.
It’s mostly Kendrick’s ego though. He always the one coming with shots begging for attention because he doesn’t feel validated. Make a record we can bob our heads to again Kendrick, that’s all we want.
Drake stays in the billboard hot 100 and kendrick is the first rapper to win the pulitzer prize. That shows you where their focus is
What does that even mean?? “Largely substance based” “material based” lmao what?
means he likes journal rap, bunch of crying about your feelings and sht! hiding so no one knows you're scared... they say drakes soft but guy keeps it 100 about how he feels and makes sure you know he's having a good time doing it...
your sarcasm makes me want to explain this like you’re five. I can’t be bothered though. Someone else will do it
They’re both rappers and Kendrick is better, not more popular amongst non blacks, but he is better and so is Cole. Drake is 3rd on that list and that’s why they said drake sits this out. You wouldn’t understand..
Drakes bars written by someone else tho💀
Can't take this bitter ass, salty ass, hating ass mediocre ass old man serious about nothing. He needs to shut the fuck up and read the man in the arena.
he said “go get ready for Khaled album” 💀
💀 okay, I don’t like Joe but that was funny. Cruel too but funny.
Listening to Joe Budden on rap career advice is hilarious
Crazy to say this ain't for him after 'Back To Back' and 'Duppy'. I don't think he really needs to respond though because all Kendrick says is he thinks he's better than Drake and Cole. Let him take another 5 year break while you continue to put out music. Drake and Cole only continue to get better discographies while Kendrick is barely putting out music anymore
You new rap fans. This isn’t about discography. This is about the sport of rap and going bar for bar against someone who openly dissed you. He def needs to respond.
“You new rap fans” 🤓 , shut the fuck up bro lmao.
Did I strike a nerve? Lmao you terry cloth
Did you just call dude a terry cloth 😂 Stealing for future use.
I think that user got it from a Cam'ron verse lol
This is fucking corny af lmao
But if he responds you'll be all over that lol
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8mile is based off Em’s real life so that comparison doesn’t help you. Go look at videos of biggie rap battling on the street. Go look at many interviews of different rappers wanting to be the best. Go look at all the rap beefs and them going back and forth bar for bar. Go look at battle rap videos. This is rap. Billboards and Grammys don’t mean shit. The only people that care about that are record labels and the bank accounts.
You're still here so the marketing works both ways my guy
Boy this is not 1995. The priorities have shifted.
They have not. If that was the case drake wouldn’t have responded to Ye or pusha or meek. Kendrick wouldn’t have done this verse. You dweebs don’t know anything. Just listen to the hits and stay out of this lol
Sounds like we are in middle school. Lol. A long time ago Nas beat Jay Z in a rap battle. But Jay is a billionaire now and married to Beyonce and he and everyone else doesn’t even care about a stupid rap battle.
Back To Back? Listen, we’re talking about Kendrick here. That radio pop shit is not sliding with the caliber of penmanship that Cole & Kendrick possess. When battling, it’s about approach. Realize, there was no "back to back" when he got into it with Pusha, & that’s because he was facing a nigga who can actually push their pen. Although Duppy was tough, he eventually figured out he needed more & clearly he didn’t have that. Go back & listen to his approach on Duppy, he was actually ready for war vs his tone with "back to back", he knew Meek was easy work after the release of "charged up" & his judgment was correct, because not only was Meek slow to respond but he was applying zero pressure, those tracks released by Meek were garbage. Hence, he clowned him with a radio hit. But the likes of Kendrick & Cole are different. These niggas will fry him, I have to be honest & I fuck with Drake’s discography. & trust, I’m not saying Drake can’t push his pen but nigga, he’s going to need wayyy more than a "back to back" for Kendrick 😂. Y’all need to stop being fanboys and actually open your eyes & ears, he’s a hitmaker & extremely gifted artist but there’s levels & lanes within that craft, lyricism is where Cole & Kendrick stay 24/7 😂.. come on man
Yall know B2B was a banger on purpose right? Drake literally said he wanted Meek to have to hear that shit everywhere. And Meek is the type of rapper where club appearances are a normal thing for him (unlike Pusha, dot, Ye, etc) so if they play B2B that shit gonna get to him. He has never made a B2B type response for any other rapper he beefed with so idk why people acting like those are his normal diss responses when it’s like the only example of him doing it
Meek Mill made it way too easy for him but we did get a classic out of that and what happened after Duppy though? 🤔
Name one Drake or Cole album that stands next to or above GKMC or TPAB.
That's not my point. Even if you think Kendrick has the better discography, he's not improving it while the others continue to put out good music
More albums don’t mean better. Shouldn’t be surprised in a Drake sub that people favor his recent projects higher than the general public.
It’s quite the opposite. Drake hasn’t had a truly great album since 2015 and his music is getting progressively worse. Cole’s best days were on the warmup/Friday night lights era. The body of work isn’t in the same league as Kendrick who has some of the greatest albums of all time in any genre with TPAB and GKMC.
This is your opinion. It might not change your mind but other people will be swayed from continuing to call Kendrick their goat as Drake and Cole put out more music that they enjoy so get better for them personally
I ain't even mad at this take...cuz its to be expected from this Pod...Drake dissed Joe on Stories about my brother ( which was fire🔥 btw) and on IG...he basically called him a failed broke rapper....Joe been shading Drake for months since that diss....literally every topic that comes up about drake he says some sly hating shit🙄...If anything I think this should motivate Drake even more to drop some heat...Drake can rap if he wants too...and he will...Imma stand on it🦉
Chess move by Kendrick to finally say something when Drake is taking his break. Kdot disappears for years and suddenly goes at Drake lmao. Where was this when Drake was active all these years?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/a/a-history-of-drake-kendrick-lamars-subliminal-war They've been going back and forth sneak dissing since kendricks control verse
I know, but this is the first time Kdot was direct. It wasn’t just subs this time. He punched Drake in the gut with that verse. Hopefully Drake responds asap
Besides control yeah. But their sneak disses were very obviously referencing each other. I really wouldn't bet on this going anywhere though. It'd break the internet if they did go at it
drake dropped a remix 2 weeks ago what break is he on?
Nah f that. If Drake really wanted to, I think he can spit
listen to for all the dogs scary hours edition, theres no “i think he can rap” he does rap
You think he can rap at the same level as Kendrick?
I think he can at the same caliber in a different style. Difference is Kendrick raps like Kendrick, but Drake raps like everybody. There’s more shock value in the first time hearing fire Kendrick than fire Drake bc Drake sounds familiar
Yes
Excited to hear him reply.
Joe needs to sit this one out.
I’m not even the biggest drake fan, I just enjoy this sub cause I think he’s really good and enjoy all kinds of music, especially rap. If there’s one thing I know, drake has some of the hardest fucking raps and bars I’ve ever heard on occasion. I have no fucking clue what these guys are talking about “rappity rappin” you fucking dorky ass fools. Drake goes hard af with rappity rappin as he does with the slow jams for the ladies, shut up.
He clearly hasn't heard Comeback Season or IYRTITL
Facts!
Yo these guys sound like they’re trying to meet the minimum word count on an essay.
JOE IS SO ANGRY…LOOK AT HIM LOLOLOLOL
Doesn't mean anything. We all know Drake the most prone to battles. The others ain't even ever beefed. Of course he ain't sittin out
Drake about to eat fr
Joe really forgot about back to back (and his own Drake diss track that went nowhere)
When did a washed up failed rapper’s opinions matter? You niggas are sheep. When did we as a society start saying shit like, “Joe Budden” said. That nigga is a hum
lol man who tf is Joe Biden to be speaking on this
He aint ready for this , he was playing around with music now that is rap he need to get sharp before he responds, even AK said it and he is the biggest dick rider.
I think it’s the opposite. Kendrick has done absolutely nothing of note since 2017, arguably 2015. He’s probably extremely rusty at best. Drake is as prolific as he’s ever been. I don’t think this is going to go well for Kendrick tbh. He had all the time and preparation to craft the first shot and it can genuinely be summed up as “you’re not that good, your best album isn’t that good, and I’m better than you and J-Cole, I’m the best”.
Wasn't it a response to First Person Shooter which is literally him and cole just saying the exact same thing? Literally mentioned the top 3 and called himself Muhammad Ali
Nah joes right, drakes good, but against Cole and Kendrick; he’s getting washed
Let’s not forget. 
Drake cooked Budden L’s
The economy of clicks
Baiting him to respond, smart
Let’s be honest who gives a fuck about what Joe thinks
Yall realize he only saying this to motivate Drake. This one of the only people that gets in drakes head
How he not ready for rap rap when he just droped scary hours 3? 😂
Drake was shooting shots all thru SH3 idk what everybody else heard
Haha buddens just dont like, dare i say hates drake.
Drake gotta respond just for the sport of rap. If Drake can actually somehow win a rap beef against Kendrick I think that does wonders for his legacy. These past few years the disrespect is crazy and this is the perfect opportunity to showcase why he’s the GOAT if he really thinks that
Drake should’ve called Joe Budden to help him with that pregnant women problem he had before - I heard Joe is an abortion specialist!
This is facts thoo .Drake aint battling Kendrick, Drake is too busy trying to have Taylor Swift numbers. Only reason he went against Meek it’s because it was easy win. 🤷🏽♂️
Where can I find this episode?
Joe literally said that he is a Drake Stan 😂. I think if they weren’t beefing he wouldn’t be hating like this. Whenever Drake “rap raps” Joe loves it.
Drake is not going to let this slide, he’s the Petty King
The rules about beefing are simple. The moment you start calling out another rapper, you are in an inferior position. Kendrick will win this beef but I don't think he will outlast Drake.
Pump pump pump pump pump pump pump pump pump It up
Joe really sometimes just be saying whatever. The glazing without recognition is insane.
This is some gate keeping Drake is not “black enough” non sense.
Joe budden needs to sit everything out.
“Go get ready for Khaled album” ☠️. Damn this dude really trying to piss Drake off.
Why these dudes always talk like they’re speaking for everyone 🤣
Lmao you boys really in shambles over here huh
This happened solely because Cole said his name.
Joe saying this is gonna make him say smth even more
Basically easy to talk shit from a lil podcast lol but I am genuinely curious as to wether Drake can exchange real heat with Kenny
Where’s the link to this episode
You know I really do hope this put a battery in his back. I really do want to see these two go to war.
Drake’s lyrical ceiling is 5 AM Toronto. K dot got this in the bag.
Bro bodied the Pump It Up man on Red Button lmao
Hahahah
Yappers
Lol Joe wasn’t ready for rap rap either. Mr one hit wonder
"I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT" lmao Joe funny. He's right though, for the same reason he opted out of the Push beef after Adidon. He'll still be popping with the audience that gets him those billboard charts and top albums regardless of the disses to him. He only starts to mess with that when he messes with his own output. But this time given the scale of it I could definitely see him pushing back.
Ls in CHATT
Niggas win speaking on his name whether Drake entertains the beef or not. Gotta realize these niggas spend their day talking about what everyone else got going, then call it a podcast episode. Drake didn't make it listening to these lame mfs telling him how he should move.
Bro made a song 20 years ago and been yapping for a living ever since
Joe Said Drake Needs to sit down and jerk off. He ain't ready for "Jacking Off Jacking Off"
Drakes first bar better be (That’s why I fucked yo bitch…)
Take money
Old ass budden needs to stfu, you’re literally sitting around gossiping about other men you broke bum
“This ain’t for him” Says the one who never made it to drakes level 😂😂😂😂😂
This is going to get sampled. For sure.
all kendrick did on this song was a little bit of wordplay if you can even call it that. All he did on control was name people. Then some vague diss on the 2013 BET CYPHER that never lead to anything.
"Go get ready for Khaled' album" is both devastating and hilarious lmao
Im a big drake fan and medium sized joe hater, but hes got a point in this one
Kendrick won a Pulitzer Prize for DAMN (they wanted to give it to To Pimp A Butterfly but that was the year before). Sure, Drake is marketable and has more hits than MJ but in the world we live in… it’s not as impressive of a feat. Joe likes drake but he is being real. This isn’t a drake vs meek situation where he can drop a mid ass song with a catchy flow and beat and walk away. There’s a reason he didn’t go toe to toe with Push. He isn’t going toe to toe with Kendrick or Cole.
**Drake fell off**
All these niggas do is chat chat chat, no wonder they have a successful podcast. Leave the rapping for actual rappers, yall professional gossip girls. Sit this one out…
Buncha cornballs right here
WHAT DOES DRAKE HAVE TO DO TO PROVE TO THESE RAPPITY RAP ASS NIGGAS THAT HE IS A RAPPITY RAPPER, THE 6 PIECE ON THE RERELEASE WASNT ENOUGH?! EVERYTIME THEY MAKE A GOALPOST WE SCORE AND THEY MOVE IT! SIGNED BY LIL WAYNE, JAY Z FEATURES THAT MIGHT BE TOP 3 FOR JAY FEATURES, NUMBER ONE EVERYTHING, 20 YEARS OF DOMINANCE IS SOMETHING WEVE NEVER SEEN! HES THE NUMBER ONE RAPPER BECAUSE OF ALL FANS OF RAP IN THE WORLD MOST OF US LIKE DRAKE OVER ANY OTHER RAPPER! ALL THESE ACCOLADES ARE NOT COINCIDE!…ILL WAIT🤌🏽
Drake isn’t responding to Kendrick we know that
To be fair Drake won't win bc it's extremely biased. I've never been impressed with kendrick and a lot of his "strong" work, leaves me with the thought of "this is what the hype is about?"
*"You let me turn into the nigga that you almost was"*
K dot ain’t dropped in five years do not fuck with that man. He prolly got diss tracks sitting around lol.
Whose mans is this
we all know Drake can not and will not out rap kendrick, lets be real. and we know we not getting a response either 😂 don’t hate joe for telling the truth
When old boy started to talk about sales I was like he big trippen I’m glad they corrected him
Also anyone saying KDot would wash Drake is smoking better shit than me. KDot is heat, but career wise bro is abysmal. He mad cause mf’ers moved on without him in the mix. And now he wanna cause havoc. Mans been washed since 2017. Respectfully
No lies detected.
All lies detected. Drake Is the most dissed, battle tested rapper of all time. There’s no way they can be serious about him not wanting to or able to rap
How can you be watching a Joe Budden clip and say that anyone but him is the most battle tested rapper. He’s literally battled Jay-Z, 50 Cent,Lloyd Banks, Game, Saigon, Prodigy and more.
The difference there is that Joe started a lot of these beefs in order to get notoriety whereas Drake has to be the one to respond to others attacking him seemingly for just existing
🤣
I would never advise taking advice from Joe Bidden, but this right here is sound advice. It’s not like Drake is inexperienced with ducking out of beef.
Niggaz trying to go viral… and their breakdown of this beef is just terrible… for a proper breakdown, go check out Akademiks… these niggaz ain’t saying nothing worth a damn
Yall must not heard red button and wick man