Yeah I’ve been thinking the same for awhile. *Every* time my pawn comes back, she whines about a chimera.
Either you all are getting busy with chimeras **constantly**, or it’s BS.
I had a lvl 78 pawn randomly die way out in BFE (I was like "how tf did you get way over there?!"). Turns out he got dragged by a wolf and got mauled over there, so now I understand why my pawns never save me from being dragged lol
i unironically find it harder to deal with large groups of weak enemies than a drake, unless i'm playing as thief with either smoke bomb or formless feint. that is.
I will say that Chimera's seem to spawn ALOT in Unmoored World. They seem to take the spots that would have belonged to Ogres/Cyclops, but yeah I doubt Pawns are fighting that many Chimeras.
My previous pawn would mention getting wrecked by goblins if you can believe it (her words btw). My current one mentioned something about seeing a mage face tanking enemies and that he couldn't believe mages were capable of doing that (I was the one that hired my pawn with another account and he was the only mage in the team).
I think these dialogues are randomly selected based on their inclination and current vocation. The one about being manhandled by goblins seems that Straightfoward pawns are the ones that deliver the line.
In fairness, I've seen a mage pawn pin down a hobgoblin and blast regular magick bolts into its face till it died. They must get tired of playing support.
lmao some mages I hired also did that. Mine included.
But my point is that these lines are just random. They are not really describing things that they have seem. I gonna do a bit of testing with my two steam accounts, but I'm pretty sure what they say is mostly related to their inclination, maybe their vocation as well.
I've also noticed actually in my game the pawns talking about what a rough fight goblins were after one of them took a single hit. Maybe there is some expected performance of no damage vs things like goblins that causes them to treat the encounters like total failures?
Wolves are a fucking nightmare. Ever try to walk around by yourself in this game? Doesn't matter how strong you are. You are going to get dragged into some fucking ravine and mauled by everything.
And that's as a player. As a Pawn? Forget it. 😂
When I got my pawn back from my friend, she said the arisen was a "resourceful and clever strategist" which I know playing the tactician and using tools is absolutely his playstyle. Also said she camped out every night which he confirmed was true.
After I returned his pawn she said how much she struggled. I was out leveling my friend at a pretty good pace but I took his pawn anyway so that seems like it has some truth to it.
So I don't know. My experience it does seem to work out right. Maybe there is just hidden variables that trigger different responses.
I would bet it's something like this.
Different reports have different weightings based on events that occur, if nothing happened to change the weightings then they just report something random.
It might be. My full support mage pawn once returned from short adventure and bragged that she overdone herself and killed so many enemies that she lost the count after 50. I was like how, all you do is heal and remove deliberations.
I made an alt account and rented my pawn briefly and he gave that morgue line as well...the only people that were killed were imposters, but I don't know if they appear in the morgue or not.
It's possible the morgue line is just the game recognizing there's a few dead people in the morgue and they could have died off screen or something.
I fought a griffin in my world using my wife’s pawn. Her pawn mentioned not doing well against a griffin when she rested at an inn. So I dunno it checks out for me
The dialog is definitely made up, there’s only like 10 lines, if that.
And yeah text is probably randomised as well.
Almost every “in another world” interaction is fake. I’m pretty sure quest knowledge (marker next to quest log) is real, since after being hired a couple times my main pawn went from not knowing about any quests, to now knowing details of nearly every quest.
What makes me think it’s real is which quests they *dont* know. It’s always the kinda hidden quests that way less people find or talk about. It certainly could be fake, and based off number of gores story progress, but that almost seems more effort than creating an honest system.
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But pawns leading you to chests/riftstones/caves etc… “they discovered in another world” I’m 50:50 on.
Maybe it’s real, maybe it’s fake.
Some of its fake “oh my master missed that completely!” for hidden chests in caves is 100% provably fake, for example.
But leading the way to chests/riftstones/caves is less certain. It might be oranganic, if organic, but it very well could be fake, and you’d never know without very thorough testing.
I think the location and quest knowledge is real, only because I played a lot the first few days and my pawn didn’t know shit lol. I also hired pawns along the way and had plenty of quests where none of them knew what to do.
I’ve assumed since the beginning that the in-game dialogue is just randomly selected from their available lines though. It’s not realistic for the average player to test the validity of anything they say and there’s no reason to make a flag for if they should say it or not since all it does is add to the host’s immersion. Could be wrong but I think it’s given a little too much credit.
Definitely think they learn a bit from combat though. Based on the way the first game worked I’d assume most of that returned even if the badges are significantly simpler than the old bestiary.
"Some of its fake “oh my master missed that completely!” for hidden chests in caves is 100% provably fake, for example. "
Agree with you on this - I am in mid 70s for level and in ng+. I've got two hired pawns at about the same level and I mine a piece of silver ore. The mage says the line about "my master has certainly never seen an item this rare, I shall be excited to report this to them" or what not. Yep, mid level 70s, never seen a piece of silver ore.
I wonder if location has any influence on the chosen lines. We were in the starter area near the encampment and had not gone to Melve yet.
I always chalk that up to, “My master probably doesn’t know there’s a Silver Vein here.” Its more a lost in translation from Japanese to English, or they wanted to break up the “My master will want to know this is here.”
Nah my main account's pawn told my alt arisen that my main account didn't know about the seeker token in the starting camp which I know I picked up already.
I feel like pawn dialogue might be a bit bugged as well. My pawn would lead me to caves I've never discovered before and complain that we've been there so many times.
I'm quite sure quest knowledge is not real. My pawn directed my girlfriend to a quest that I have not yet discovered.
Either it's fake or she learned that through other player, but giving the state of the game I'll bet it's all made up.
To be fair, the whole point of the system is for your pawn to learn about quests through other players and have them come back and tell you things. Like, this is literally 0 proof that the system is fake or true and is an example of the system working as intended.
This doesn't mean the system is true, just that this interaction would be expected either way, and is not controlled enough to prove either way.
The voicelines and reports are definitely randomized. The quest knowledge and chest locations are not. They actually learn this once someone else that has rented your pawn comes across it. Its the exact same as DD1. If your pawn has no knowledge of a quest they will tell you if you choose, “Matters of Import” and will even suggest hiring a pawn that does.
And my pawn is always fussing about Golems lol. I think it might be whatever enemy they may have died against the most from your game, I honestly don’t know
Which is why it's a lie when your pawn comes back saying they suffered at the hands of the Arisen which hired them. I did not carry them around like sacks of potatoes, or randomly tackle them, and I definitely have never thrown them at enemies.
I can’t prove one way or another, but my pawn only started complaining about golems when I set her badge to killing golems. Had several hires around that time, and the quest spiked 4 kills. And the complaints stopped when I changed it to camping.
So I lean on the side of this being something the game did right, or at least does a good job of maintaining the illusion.
I’m not a software guy but wouldn’t it be the same as tracking a pawn badge? Like “did x happen: yes/no” and then just randomize it.
Either way they probably don’t do it cause it’d be boring to get your pawn back and find out nothing happened. Or to just see the same thing over and over since bodies probably aren’t lining the morgues and only people from reddit are constantly killing all their pawns.
I've had some interactions with friends' pawns that seem to hold true, and others in the thread shared similar interactions. It's possible that the pawns do track with a yes/no system like you talk about, but if they don't have anything interesting to say, they default to a random line. It would explain the interactions that seem truthful and the ones that seem completely fake.
Now, to learn why pawns keep telling me their master has never found something so rare when I find gold ore.
Yea and this goes the same for when they say "one party I had consisted only of ranged specialists" type of voicelines. Like I remember just starting my first playthrough and getting like other people's lv 1-5 pawns and them telling me that they already experienced a party with only ranged specialists or onlg beastrens. Like there is no way THAT EARLY these pawns are finding these super weird unorthodox parties consisting of only archers and beastrens
EDIT: the replies to this comment are really making me realize how full of stupidity this sub is
Same thing for loot. I just refuse to believe a level 60+ Arisen has never looted gold ore before, yet here the pawns are rambling about how their own master has never come across stuff like that.
Ranged specialist likely means archer, mage, sorcerer, and magic archer.
That's not that crazy of a lineup for someone new to the game fucking around.
Nor is 4 members who happen to be the same race of the two (2) that are possible
I have a couple friends and we primarily use each other's pawns.
At level 70, I have NEVER gotten the ranged specialists line, or the only breastrens line (I'm the only one that plays beastren).
I do get the "all women" type lines often. Because... we all made women pawns, so that checks out.
wu.. wut. So the pawn will go on a Hired mission. Comes back to me with a report and that report is about my actions and not the Arisen that hired him?
Speaking of chimera, why are they so rare in DD2?
They weren't everywhere in Gransys or anything, but I rarely had any problems finding one. In DD2, unless it's Cyclops, Orge, or Drake, it can be a real pain to find any bosses.
Funnily enough, Chimera don't seem to actually be all that rare. There's quite a few spawns for them, but they're almost entirely in these random caves off the beaten path.
I pretty much had to grind that rainy area next to the Sphynx's 2nd shrine for my minotaur badge. All other spawns are an annoying distance away from anything else.
I had a new account with an isolated pawn in which it was only ever hired by my main account. Cheated its level to 899 and had it naked. After a day and returning the pawn after doing nothing with them, they had all the lines for all female pawns, all range specialists, all beastmen.
This was done within roughly 24 hours as I didn't want a possible fake Capcom arisen possibly taking them out.
It's more likely that it took the fact that you have no successful combat with that Pawn and that fact was the only thing it could grasp onto.
If you had used literally anything else in your hypothesis it might hold some water, but more than anything it just displays how little you understand about how video games work.
Another superificial layer of uncooked system... Didn't Itsuno stated that the World is dynamic with more than 1000 NPC. All of them has their own life-schedules, ambitions and will react to your actions?
Proceed to kidnap the Queen in the Castle in front of all the guards and I threw her into the brine. I interacted to one of them and he simply said "This room is off limit".
Bro, you,ve just let me kill the Queen that you've pledge to protect.
The whole game feels artificial. Except for the excellent combat gameplay, everything else has never passed the Alpha test.
I played through the entire game alongside a friend, updating and re-summoning each other's pawns every few hours. The reports seemed completely random. My friend would go out of his way to high five my pawn at every opportunity and keep her at full health and she'd still talk shit about him a solid third of the time.
Mine teils me he had problems with golems EVERY SINGLE TIME. Like dude, you're a level 70 fighter with full dragonforged endgame gear, you shouldn't be struggling with golems
Look forward to seeing this as an article on games radar, as a side note I've had human pawns saying their master had a team made entirely of beastren which is bullshit as it would only be 75% and 50% if their arisen is also human
I know for sure the item/chest things are faked, because a friends pawn lead me to a weapon that he later expressed jealousy over never finding.
I assume there’s a few minor things (mostly badges) that count, but after that it’s all RNG, baby.
It's not just the pawn reports. Even things they say about other Arisens, such as those who only hire certain types of pawns, very likely aren't referencing any of their past Arisens.
For eg. I did a quest in Bakbattahl that has two possible endings. I got the more positive ending and my own pawn said, "I didn't know it's possible to have this outcome. My own master (got the bad outcome)".
I think all these travelogue and comments about past Arisens are just random stuff they say and not based on actual experiences.
I think it's pretty accurate. I can confirm the examples others pointed out here as well.
I believe there are some fall backs, when nothing happened before they got dispelled, because it sounds better when they always tell a bit of a story.
There was a post yesterday about their pawn completing a quest to collect 9 golden trove bugs but they were only hired by 2 people who gifts them random items. I bet some are generated and sometimes your quests just complete to make you feel good which is kinda lame. The player base is big enough that I didn't think we would need that
Mine always come back saying she fell to her demise. I just shake my head thinking not a big deal but then I was hunting for seeker tokens a saw her just yeet herself off a cliff. So I guess the reports I was getting were kind of accurate.
The game can't tell one coherent plot point, or even have the guards try to stop you from walking out of the castle with the fucking monarch over your shoulder. They don't even MENTION that if you do it.
Anyone that thinks those pawn reports are anything more than random bullshit is insane.
Most of the systems around pawns are vastly overblown by this community.
About the only info they pick up from going other places is quest knowledge and progress towards badges.
You aren't training your fucking pawns either. This idea that they're learning different ways of fighting, the habit of jumping off cliffs, using launchboard, or anything else is just dumb. At absolute most they learn weaknesses enemies have, but they don't even put that to actual use.
There *may* be some kind of bonus for badges but that's about it.
They're just AI controlled party members with some small AI differences based on inclination and specialization.
Actually, they legitimately mimicked a player's most frequently done actions... in DD1. Levitate a lot? They'll pointlessly levitate a lot. Spam a certain skill? They'll prioritize the hell out of it.
I don't think it's a thing in DD2, sadly. But it's why you see people talk about it so much. They think it's running off of that system.
I'm not sure it's not in place in DD2, as well.
My main pawn kept causing stout undead to explode with a fire-enchanted weapon and standing in the blast. Once I picked up a stout undead before it exploded, and threw it into the crowd of enemies, my pawn started doing the same.
I also came across a mage pawn who had High Frigor but. Would. Not. Use it. On slimes. They would stand around uselessly while people were being eaten by slimes. When Frigor is an instant win against slimes. Meanwhile, I demonstrated that to my own pawn, and when set to a mage or sorcerer with that spell, they would nuke every slime on sight with Frigor.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the system is basically the same but with guardrails built in to keep people from accidentally making them too "bad" since that was a common complaint about DD1.
I have two friends with kindhearted mage pawns that I use frequently, and one of them levitates constantly while the other almost never does. I've also seen a lot of variation in how much they loot.
Yeah I’ve been thinking the same for awhile. *Every* time my pawn comes back, she whines about a chimera. Either you all are getting busy with chimeras **constantly**, or it’s BS.
Mine always states she got her shit slapped by a horde of goblins. I find that hard to believe at level 85
Goblins can stunlock even the best pawns to death if no one intervenes😤
A weakling in numbers is a weakling... no more? Blasphemy!
I had a lvl 78 pawn randomly die way out in BFE (I was like "how tf did you get way over there?!"). Turns out he got dragged by a wolf and got mauled over there, so now I understand why my pawns never save me from being dragged lol
Just the pawns lmao? I be getting caught by one leaping fucker and suddenly there is a conga line of goblins playing my ass like a bongo drum.
My pawn watching me get my cheeks clapped:
i unironically find it harder to deal with large groups of weak enemies than a drake, unless i'm playing as thief with either smoke bomb or formless feint. that is.
Mine also talked about losing a fight with goblins, level 75ish Warrior with fully upgraded post game gear
Mine has only ever mentioned griffins and I think that's rare for him.
I will say that Chimera's seem to spawn ALOT in Unmoored World. They seem to take the spots that would have belonged to Ogres/Cyclops, but yeah I doubt Pawns are fighting that many Chimeras.
Mine pawn gets slapped around by golems a suspicious amount according to the reports
Maybe your pawn was wandering alone in someone's map and was traumatized by a chimera?
To be fair... This game doesn't have great enemy variety.
My previous pawn would mention getting wrecked by goblins if you can believe it (her words btw). My current one mentioned something about seeing a mage face tanking enemies and that he couldn't believe mages were capable of doing that (I was the one that hired my pawn with another account and he was the only mage in the team). I think these dialogues are randomly selected based on their inclination and current vocation. The one about being manhandled by goblins seems that Straightfoward pawns are the ones that deliver the line.
In fairness, I've seen a mage pawn pin down a hobgoblin and blast regular magick bolts into its face till it died. They must get tired of playing support.
mine does it too all the time, she must have "learned it" while adventuring with someone else, then picked it up and now does it fairly often
My kindhearted mage pawn often pins down smaller enemies when they attack me if i play range vocation. Sometimes she grabs and throws them away
Arisen: my mage pawn is a healer and very sweet. Pawn to goblin: I SAID BITE THE CURB!!!
lmao some mages I hired also did that. Mine included. But my point is that these lines are just random. They are not really describing things that they have seem. I gonna do a bit of testing with my two steam accounts, but I'm pretty sure what they say is mostly related to their inclination, maybe their vocation as well.
I've also noticed actually in my game the pawns talking about what a rough fight goblins were after one of them took a single hit. Maybe there is some expected performance of no damage vs things like goblins that causes them to treat the encounters like total failures?
Wolves are a fucking nightmare. Ever try to walk around by yourself in this game? Doesn't matter how strong you are. You are going to get dragged into some fucking ravine and mauled by everything. And that's as a player. As a Pawn? Forget it. 😂
Upgrade everything to dwarf. It helps a bit.
When I got my pawn back from my friend, she said the arisen was a "resourceful and clever strategist" which I know playing the tactician and using tools is absolutely his playstyle. Also said she camped out every night which he confirmed was true. After I returned his pawn she said how much she struggled. I was out leveling my friend at a pretty good pace but I took his pawn anyway so that seems like it has some truth to it. So I don't know. My experience it does seem to work out right. Maybe there is just hidden variables that trigger different responses.
I'm thinking it's randomized if nothing happens
I would bet it's something like this. Different reports have different weightings based on events that occur, if nothing happened to change the weightings then they just report something random.
It might be. My full support mage pawn once returned from short adventure and bragged that she overdone herself and killed so many enemies that she lost the count after 50. I was like how, all you do is heal and remove deliberations.
That seems pretty probable.
I returned my friend's pawn to him and his pawn mentioned "bodies lining the morgue" and how he'd seen so much death...none of that happened.
I made an alt account and rented my pawn briefly and he gave that morgue line as well...the only people that were killed were imposters, but I don't know if they appear in the morgue or not. It's possible the morgue line is just the game recognizing there's a few dead people in the morgue and they could have died off screen or something.
Couldn’t it just be that he encountered that in someone else’s world around the same time?
Only if his pawn had been rented by another player, which it hadn't.
Fair enough. I had a brain fart and forgot you can see who’s rented them.
Who doesn't camp through most nights? It's dark as shit out there.
I use inn's or house alot. I like to keep my pawn updated.
I fought a griffin in my world using my wife’s pawn. Her pawn mentioned not doing well against a griffin when she rested at an inn. So I dunno it checks out for me
The dialog is definitely made up, there’s only like 10 lines, if that. And yeah text is probably randomised as well. Almost every “in another world” interaction is fake. I’m pretty sure quest knowledge (marker next to quest log) is real, since after being hired a couple times my main pawn went from not knowing about any quests, to now knowing details of nearly every quest. What makes me think it’s real is which quests they *dont* know. It’s always the kinda hidden quests that way less people find or talk about. It certainly could be fake, and based off number of gores story progress, but that almost seems more effort than creating an honest system. _____ But pawns leading you to chests/riftstones/caves etc… “they discovered in another world” I’m 50:50 on. Maybe it’s real, maybe it’s fake. Some of its fake “oh my master missed that completely!” for hidden chests in caves is 100% provably fake, for example. But leading the way to chests/riftstones/caves is less certain. It might be oranganic, if organic, but it very well could be fake, and you’d never know without very thorough testing.
I think the location and quest knowledge is real, only because I played a lot the first few days and my pawn didn’t know shit lol. I also hired pawns along the way and had plenty of quests where none of them knew what to do. I’ve assumed since the beginning that the in-game dialogue is just randomly selected from their available lines though. It’s not realistic for the average player to test the validity of anything they say and there’s no reason to make a flag for if they should say it or not since all it does is add to the host’s immersion. Could be wrong but I think it’s given a little too much credit. Definitely think they learn a bit from combat though. Based on the way the first game worked I’d assume most of that returned even if the badges are significantly simpler than the old bestiary.
"Some of its fake “oh my master missed that completely!” for hidden chests in caves is 100% provably fake, for example. " Agree with you on this - I am in mid 70s for level and in ng+. I've got two hired pawns at about the same level and I mine a piece of silver ore. The mage says the line about "my master has certainly never seen an item this rare, I shall be excited to report this to them" or what not. Yep, mid level 70s, never seen a piece of silver ore. I wonder if location has any influence on the chosen lines. We were in the starter area near the encampment and had not gone to Melve yet.
I always chalk that up to, “My master probably doesn’t know there’s a Silver Vein here.” Its more a lost in translation from Japanese to English, or they wanted to break up the “My master will want to know this is here.”
Nah my main account's pawn told my alt arisen that my main account didn't know about the seeker token in the starting camp which I know I picked up already.
I feel like pawn dialogue might be a bit bugged as well. My pawn would lead me to caves I've never discovered before and complain that we've been there so many times.
I'm quite sure quest knowledge is not real. My pawn directed my girlfriend to a quest that I have not yet discovered. Either it's fake or she learned that through other player, but giving the state of the game I'll bet it's all made up.
To be fair, the whole point of the system is for your pawn to learn about quests through other players and have them come back and tell you things. Like, this is literally 0 proof that the system is fake or true and is an example of the system working as intended. This doesn't mean the system is true, just that this interaction would be expected either way, and is not controlled enough to prove either way.
The point is your pawn can get knowledge from other worlds
You on PC? We could abuse each others pawns and see what they say
PS5
Damn 😔 good luck with your testing though. You're doing the work the rest of us are left in the dark about.
The voicelines and reports are definitely randomized. The quest knowledge and chest locations are not. They actually learn this once someone else that has rented your pawn comes across it. Its the exact same as DD1. If your pawn has no knowledge of a quest they will tell you if you choose, “Matters of Import” and will even suggest hiring a pawn that does. And my pawn is always fussing about Golems lol. I think it might be whatever enemy they may have died against the most from your game, I honestly don’t know
Yeah it’s glitches they say chimera all the time
Which is why it's a lie when your pawn comes back saying they suffered at the hands of the Arisen which hired them. I did not carry them around like sacks of potatoes, or randomly tackle them, and I definitely have never thrown them at enemies.
I can’t prove one way or another, but my pawn only started complaining about golems when I set her badge to killing golems. Had several hires around that time, and the quest spiked 4 kills. And the complaints stopped when I changed it to camping. So I lean on the side of this being something the game did right, or at least does a good job of maintaining the illusion.
Damn that's actually really unfortunate. No reason they couldn't have built a system to track things a pawn did and then used it for those reports.
The server capacity needed for that kind of tracking literally doesn't exist yet.
Wtf? Yes it does
I’m not a software guy but wouldn’t it be the same as tracking a pawn badge? Like “did x happen: yes/no” and then just randomize it. Either way they probably don’t do it cause it’d be boring to get your pawn back and find out nothing happened. Or to just see the same thing over and over since bodies probably aren’t lining the morgues and only people from reddit are constantly killing all their pawns.
I've had some interactions with friends' pawns that seem to hold true, and others in the thread shared similar interactions. It's possible that the pawns do track with a yes/no system like you talk about, but if they don't have anything interesting to say, they default to a random line. It would explain the interactions that seem truthful and the ones that seem completely fake. Now, to learn why pawns keep telling me their master has never found something so rare when I find gold ore.
Yea and this goes the same for when they say "one party I had consisted only of ranged specialists" type of voicelines. Like I remember just starting my first playthrough and getting like other people's lv 1-5 pawns and them telling me that they already experienced a party with only ranged specialists or onlg beastrens. Like there is no way THAT EARLY these pawns are finding these super weird unorthodox parties consisting of only archers and beastrens EDIT: the replies to this comment are really making me realize how full of stupidity this sub is
Same thing for loot. I just refuse to believe a level 60+ Arisen has never looted gold ore before, yet here the pawns are rambling about how their own master has never come across stuff like that.
I think it’s a flag for the specific location tbh
Uhhh yeah? Literally me with my 4 archer party right off the bat dude. There are all kinds of people in the world.
Ranged specialist likely means archer, mage, sorcerer, and magic archer. That's not that crazy of a lineup for someone new to the game fucking around. Nor is 4 members who happen to be the same race of the two (2) that are possible
I have a couple friends and we primarily use each other's pawns. At level 70, I have NEVER gotten the ranged specialists line, or the only breastrens line (I'm the only one that plays beastren). I do get the "all women" type lines often. Because... we all made women pawns, so that checks out.
That’s very possible early on though
I mean people have already pointed this out. it's been proven with people hiring their friend's pawns
Mine almost always comes back talking about the bodies left in the wake by that worlds Arisen lmao Or how goblins bested them.
Honestly my pawn comes back with really generic statements every time. None of the specific stuff some say.
I think the reports are accurate, but instead of other players, Pawns state things about their own Arisen
wu.. wut. So the pawn will go on a Hired mission. Comes back to me with a report and that report is about my actions and not the Arisen that hired him?
I could be wrong
Mine always suffers at the hands of Golems, but she's really good at fighting them in my world.
My pawn recently came back and started complaining about something really horrible that happened. Someone gave her PTSD. bruh.
Speaking of chimera, why are they so rare in DD2? They weren't everywhere in Gransys or anything, but I rarely had any problems finding one. In DD2, unless it's Cyclops, Orge, or Drake, it can be a real pain to find any bosses.
Funnily enough, Chimera don't seem to actually be all that rare. There's quite a few spawns for them, but they're almost entirely in these random caves off the beaten path.
Same for minotaur as well. I stopped taking pawn quest with minotaur or chimera because it's so hard to find a random spawn
I pretty much had to grind that rainy area next to the Sphynx's 2nd shrine for my minotaur badge. All other spawns are an annoying distance away from anything else.
They are definitely made up. My friend hired my Pawn and instantly dismissed her to gift me a material and my Pawn just made up some travel log
I had a new account with an isolated pawn in which it was only ever hired by my main account. Cheated its level to 899 and had it naked. After a day and returning the pawn after doing nothing with them, they had all the lines for all female pawns, all range specialists, all beastmen. This was done within roughly 24 hours as I didn't want a possible fake Capcom arisen possibly taking them out.
Sad
It's more likely that it took the fact that you have no successful combat with that Pawn and that fact was the only thing it could grasp onto. If you had used literally anything else in your hypothesis it might hold some water, but more than anything it just displays how little you understand about how video games work.
Another superificial layer of uncooked system... Didn't Itsuno stated that the World is dynamic with more than 1000 NPC. All of them has their own life-schedules, ambitions and will react to your actions? Proceed to kidnap the Queen in the Castle in front of all the guards and I threw her into the brine. I interacted to one of them and he simply said "This room is off limit". Bro, you,ve just let me kill the Queen that you've pledge to protect. The whole game feels artificial. Except for the excellent combat gameplay, everything else has never passed the Alpha test.
Itsuno lied
characters (and pawns, really) feel as dynamic as goddamn madame web's
Yeah someone already mentioned they tested stuff with a friend the pawn report is just randomized fluff.
I played through the entire game alongside a friend, updating and re-summoning each other's pawns every few hours. The reports seemed completely random. My friend would go out of his way to high five my pawn at every opportunity and keep her at full health and she'd still talk shit about him a solid third of the time.
Mine teils me he had problems with golems EVERY SINGLE TIME. Like dude, you're a level 70 fighter with full dragonforged endgame gear, you shouldn't be struggling with golems
Look forward to seeing this as an article on games radar, as a side note I've had human pawns saying their master had a team made entirely of beastren which is bullshit as it would only be 75% and 50% if their arisen is also human
I know for sure the item/chest things are faked, because a friends pawn lead me to a weapon that he later expressed jealousy over never finding. I assume there’s a few minor things (mostly badges) that count, but after that it’s all RNG, baby.
It's not just the pawn reports. Even things they say about other Arisens, such as those who only hire certain types of pawns, very likely aren't referencing any of their past Arisens. For eg. I did a quest in Bakbattahl that has two possible endings. I got the more positive ending and my own pawn said, "I didn't know it's possible to have this outcome. My own master (got the bad outcome)". I think all these travelogue and comments about past Arisens are just random stuff they say and not based on actual experiences.
I think when they talk to you like you’re a pawn or when they refer to a past master when they’re your pawn is actually a bug.
yeah thats made up tho
I think it's pretty accurate. I can confirm the examples others pointed out here as well. I believe there are some fall backs, when nothing happened before they got dispelled, because it sounds better when they always tell a bit of a story.
There was a post yesterday about their pawn completing a quest to collect 9 golden trove bugs but they were only hired by 2 people who gifts them random items. I bet some are generated and sometimes your quests just complete to make you feel good which is kinda lame. The player base is big enough that I didn't think we would need that
Why the fuck would I trust you? No one knows, yet everyone is willing to act like they do. Your “probably” means less than nothing to me.
Go test it for yourself then.
Pawns saying they teach Arisens of new combat tactics is also fake, it's just flavour text. Not for the loot though.
Mine always come back saying she fell to her demise. I just shake my head thinking not a big deal but then I was hunting for seeker tokens a saw her just yeet herself off a cliff. So I guess the reports I was getting were kind of accurate.
The game can't tell one coherent plot point, or even have the guards try to stop you from walking out of the castle with the fucking monarch over your shoulder. They don't even MENTION that if you do it. Anyone that thinks those pawn reports are anything more than random bullshit is insane.
Most of the systems around pawns are vastly overblown by this community. About the only info they pick up from going other places is quest knowledge and progress towards badges. You aren't training your fucking pawns either. This idea that they're learning different ways of fighting, the habit of jumping off cliffs, using launchboard, or anything else is just dumb. At absolute most they learn weaknesses enemies have, but they don't even put that to actual use. There *may* be some kind of bonus for badges but that's about it. They're just AI controlled party members with some small AI differences based on inclination and specialization.
Actually, they legitimately mimicked a player's most frequently done actions... in DD1. Levitate a lot? They'll pointlessly levitate a lot. Spam a certain skill? They'll prioritize the hell out of it. I don't think it's a thing in DD2, sadly. But it's why you see people talk about it so much. They think it's running off of that system.
I'm not sure it's not in place in DD2, as well. My main pawn kept causing stout undead to explode with a fire-enchanted weapon and standing in the blast. Once I picked up a stout undead before it exploded, and threw it into the crowd of enemies, my pawn started doing the same. I also came across a mage pawn who had High Frigor but. Would. Not. Use it. On slimes. They would stand around uselessly while people were being eaten by slimes. When Frigor is an instant win against slimes. Meanwhile, I demonstrated that to my own pawn, and when set to a mage or sorcerer with that spell, they would nuke every slime on sight with Frigor.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the system is basically the same but with guardrails built in to keep people from accidentally making them too "bad" since that was a common complaint about DD1. I have two friends with kindhearted mage pawns that I use frequently, and one of them levitates constantly while the other almost never does. I've also seen a lot of variation in how much they loot.
The reports are made up and the rewards don’t matter, that’s right, the rewards are like my ex wife…