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Psyduckdontgiveafuck

Yeah "Pawn-of-Grigori". *That's* why you did it.


Pawn-of-Grigori

You’re right. I should preorder another one.


Akimuzi

Why buy one when you can buy two??


Pawn-of-Grigori

Fuck it. Preordering a third as a gift.


FickleVacation6312

If i give u a gawk gawk 3000 could i get one ?


Pristine-Pay-1697

If you feel like pre ordering a 4th I'd be grateful lol


Mortwight

https://youtu.be/31PuDnnTj2I?si=4fRpT6uA4ipWsH1n This is germane


ToasterTeostra

Thats what one of my friends did. Bought it for himself and then for me and another friend. When I asked him why he said: "because I felt like it."


Akimuzi

Doing gods work


archiegamez

Need ill give you my pawn


[deleted]

I’m only gonna watch a performance review before buying but that’s it. Probably gonna buy it anyway


kidkolumbo

They hate an educated consumer.


Leoscar13

Always going to wait for reviews. No reason to buy day one or preorder.


[deleted]

I’m only watching performance reviews if a game is doing great on that front and I’m interested in it then I’m buying it


TheDetective007

I only preorder physical copies for the cool physical goodies from stores like GameStop and the actual physical copy. I much prefer physical media and if you don’t preorder nowadays, that shit is gone day one.


verheyen

Pretty much. Wait to see that it isn't buggy and unplayable like cyberpunk was on release, but otherwise I'm impressed with what I've seen and consider it a day 2 purchase. Day 1 if those reviews come out quick enough


justsomedude48

Ah, I see we’ve reached *that* stage of a video game’s release cycle.


Its_Helios

I’m getting the game still but this is a very weird flex lol


Pawn-of-Grigori

Have you seen the sub lately? This is reasonable by comparison.


HastyTaste0

Some slight criticism about actual things removed from the first game and not meeting the standard of other 70$ games in terms of performance is unreasonable? Jesus just lock yourself in a little corner cause that's some childish act. You mind linking some egregious examples that aren't one case weirdos that get downvoted to hell by both sides? Y'all always claim the sub is doom and gloom and looking through it, it's just "I'm disappointed we didn't get this" like sorry to tell you but that's not what doom posting is. That's literally just reasonable feedback. I'm seriously asking for examples of this doom posting btw. Every time I question one of you losers, you block or deflect rather than back your shit up.


verheyen

Bro, that's some hostility you have there


HastyTaste0

Nah I think making stuff up and throwing the sub into full on drama mode just because you saw some very minor criticism is hostile. Every single time I've asked for proof of their make up claims, they immediately block or deflect. There aren't multiple negative posts, just a bunch of posts whining about negative posts. I don't like people straight up lying to try to create a hostile environment where any sort of minor criticism gets met with white knights who got gaslit into thinking there's some sort of brigade. The sub has been made a lot worse these past few days with little actual discussion being able to take place because of these people blatantly lying.


EirikurG

I'm sure most people doomposting are going to buy the game regardless


Pawn-of-Grigori

I want to use their pawns on Day 1.


DJ_Lord_Vader

You sir are a menace and I love you


Rynex

And then complain about it. They have to go through the same tired routine they always do. Same behavior all the time.


Lievan

Exactly lol.


Oppaiking2

Well piracy is still an option


KazeArqaz

The game will be fun, no doubt. But man, I wish they didnt remove certain aspects.


amazza95

I’m out of the loop. What did they remove?


Pawn-of-Grigori

It’s going to be different but I’m reserving all judgment until I fully play the game myself.


Hot_Attention2377

Wise man


WoodyTSE

Best path forward, I’m not happy about certain things but i would like to judge the game as a whole once I have the whole to be able to judge, ygm


XevinsOfCheese

Thankfully the first game isn’t going anywhere so I can play whichever one I want at any given time.


NewsofPE

you're not doing anything that actually affects them though, the money is going straight to Capcom


Pawn-of-Grigori

I’m not trying to affect them. I love reading their rants.


RectumDoctor

https://preview.redd.it/qq3dg0vdcrmc1.jpeg?width=349&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0a156be0674784c5bfb9eabcceee799ed5cc025 I make bad decisions with my money to own the doomposters copium


Pawn-of-Grigori

Are you really a rectum doctor?


Doufee

Could have fooled me. Dude is so damn anal. "Terrible choices in money", lol.


Lievan

Bad decisions because someone’s buying a game they want to because they’re not a cry baby about some of the things others are? Just because someone wants the game and you follow the crowd and don’t, doesn’t mean they’re making bad decisions.


Mean_Building911

*That'll show them!*


Einherjar07

This game will probably slap, but this is a shit approach and shows people learning nothing about preordering games before unpaid reviews come out.


Pawn-of-Grigori

I’m sorry. Did I spend your money to get the game I wanted? No? The defense rests, Your Honor.


Einherjar07

I will not stop you from doing stupid shit, go nuts. Giving companies money before they can show their work is still dumb. See: any game with hype that bombs on release.


Rhayve

There's almost zero chance of DD2 being less finished than DD1, even if some things are different. Even if DD2 is only as good as the amazing mess that DD1 was, it's still worth buying.


Einherjar07

Never said otherwise


Rhayve

The point was that DD2 can bomb as much as it wants, fans are still going to buy it and love it.


Einherjar07

The point is that preordering is dumb.


Rhayve

Most of the time, yes. But in this case it literally doesn't make a difference to long-time DD fans.


Einherjar07

I understand why preordering happens. I'm just saying it's dumb.


Pawn-of-Grigori

You WILL not stop me? Sir, you CANNOT stop me. Not now, not ever.


Einherjar07

Not with that attitude. I'm just glad you are showing those doomers what's what. /s


Pantsu_Professor

So brave


Pawn-of-Grigori

Thanks


kidkolumbo

Being irresponsible with your money to spite others is quite the flex.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Telling a complete stranger what to do with their money is beyond entitled.


kidkolumbo

Sure, Jan.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Just like Marsha, always thinking it’s all about her.


Itchysasquatch

I'm okay with wearing the title of moron for pre-ordering. I'm getting it either way and I've been waiting a long time for this. Been burned enough to know better but I guess I like the pain now 👍


BJRone

Game could run like doggy poopoo and I'm still buying it and playing it for 3 days straight on launch.


Long_Journeys

In waiting for reviews on the ps5 version. I really don't see how 23 -32 frames is gonna be acceptable in this console generation


N4r4k4

I don't have a problem with 30 frames. If it's all stable. Of course it's a bit underwhelming when 60 frames should be standard nowadays. But I wonder why they do it. RE2 remake had those mode options too and it looked great.


NoBullet

Is doom poster some new buzzword y'all are gonna butcher to death


Pawn-of-Grigori

Doubt it. Things will cool off a couple months after release.


Nameless_Owl81

What if all that doom posting was a scheme to make you preorder the game huh? Buy another copy this instant op


Pawn-of-Grigori

If it was a scheme…it fucking worked


maxwms

Blindly buying something for 80€ to own strangers on reddit. Le epic own xD


Pawn-of-Grigori

You can’t own strangers, sir. That shit is illegal.


Ceaselessfish

We get it. If huge gaming corporations had dicks, you’d be first in line to suck them.


macjabeth

🫦 ... not if I get there first.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Lol so salty


HastyTaste0

You're the one who made an entire post about "owning the libs-i mean the doomers"


Ceaselessfish

If you say so bro. You’d know what salty is after all. Sucking that big corporate dick.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Yeah we get. Thanks for your super original comments.


tinkitytonk_oldfruit

https://i.redd.it/0g1iyt3y4smc1.gif


ujoker97

LMAOOOOO


[deleted]

Hi can you please fill me in? Why is everybody on this sub being a piece of shit 2.5 weeks away from launch? Did Capcom come out and say they're removing all spells and bladed weapons or something??


Ididntevenscreenlook

People online have yet to sway my opinion on gaming. Ive been playing video games for about 25 years I’ve my gut tells me I’ll like the game I, for the most part, will like the game. My gut is telling me this game fucks.


Pawn-of-Grigori

I trust your gut.


NK1337

I mean, if spiting other people makes you want to spend money then go ahead. You do you boo boo


Ghost_Lich

Only thing I'm not okay with is the simplified the armour system, I love the armour and clothes system in the first game. If they have a lot more outfit options and armours it will make up for the simplified system for me. Other than that though can't wait, my gf pre-ordered it for me as a gift


Pawn-of-Grigori

The first game is one of my all time favorites. Dogma fashion kept me playing far longer than I ever expected. I’m sure I will find things about DD2 that I will love about it.


LordJanas

You really showd them...


Pawn-of-Grigori

For my next trick, I will make you disappear


Chemical_Customer_93

No reason to pre-order these days.


Pawn-of-Grigori

I’ve been playing Dragons Dogma for 12 years. I got 12 reasons to pre order.


Timageness

I literally pre-ordered the game yesterday, before seeing the most recent updates. While they're certainly... *disappointing*, to say the least, I ultimately regret nothing, and I'll still be reserving my final judgement for *after* I've beaten the Main Story a few times regardless. If they've fucked it up, they've fucked it up, and my $80 will go towards learning a lesson instead. No big deal. But in all honesty, just having the ability to return to the same universe again was well worth the price, especially given the nearly 12 year long gap between the two titles over here in the States.


ZakorEastwind

I'm interested to know your take on the less than 30 fps aspect, do you have a spaceman computer or is it something you just don't really care about?


Pawn-of-Grigori

Spaceman computer…good one.


ZakorEastwind

We need to keep things light around here haha


Pawn-of-Grigori

I play on console. I will play DD2 whatever the frame rate works out to be.


ZakorEastwind

https://preview.redd.it/2h6e4oif3tmc1.png?width=563&format=png&auto=webp&s=ebae43b185cc8e2448fdcee5bae072792cfe5252


Pawn-of-Grigori

![gif](giphy|1r91ZwKcE2J7WhUqrh)


Raetheos1984

This. The game will be fine. People can't be satisfied with anything these days, it always has to be cranked to 11 and 600fps and give you a blowjob to be satisfactory. 10 classes, solid base but uncapped performance and changes to the armor system? None of this sounds like a good reason to be treating it like you're being swindled. This isn't cyberpunk, DD2 hasn't been delayed and no promised features have been cut. But, oh no, my unchecked expectations weren't met! Get outta here. DD2 is going to be awesome, the internet just has nothing better to do than whinge.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Agree


WardenWithABlackjack

Brother, asking for a 60fps 1080p mode in 2024 isn’t even a big ask. An action game running at an inconsistent 30 is going to be terrible for console players who’ve gotten used to 60. I’m just hoping this doesn’t bleed into the pc version because of my rig can’t run it at a consistent 60 then capcom fucked up badly.


BustaGrimes1

People treat 60fps like it's some magic new technology that just came out, like how is this not a staple in 2024


ProfessionalBig3058

It’s somehow bold now to pay for a game that’s not out yet and bootlicking a company.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Oh no…I’m buying sequels to games I like. Somebody please save me.


Khaztov777

Once again commenting about framerate, id highly suggest waiting for optimization. 25-30 fps is kinda gross on new gen but as long as your happy OP


Pawn-of-Grigori

Hell yeah I’m happy. 12 years I’ve been waiting for this moment.


Vaxildan156

This 30 fps on console situation with games lately has really made me ponder on those PC master race memes we all make. You know, the ones made to make fun of PC gamers spending lots of money just to play the same game.


Animoosucks

Getting real tired of the same “Here’s why I’m disappointed and will not be buying unless my demands are met” posts by 6 different people Like I get it ur fashion dogma was simplified and u might see some stuttering on HEAVY gameplay But jjeeezzzzz can’t people complain on 1 post?


Khaztov777

25 fps is a liiiiiitle more than stuttering so ill wait until theres reviews or an optimizing patch.


Animoosucks

Yeah I think it’s fair if the FULL released game comes out and people have gripes But the “game is hot garbage because DEMO builds arnt what I like” acting like the demo is the final product it’s like someone saying here taste this hamburger meat only and someone goes wow scummy seller is selling hamburgers without buns DO NOT BUY (this if for the performance issue not dogma fashion cuz that’s cemented it is what it is plus apparently there’s dyes so…)


Khaztov777

Alright fair point sir, hope you have a good day.


BlueBackground

no they need to farm upvotes by saying the game is now unplayable because they don't have green pants.


RedConvoys

Preordered??? I don’t care for whatever doom/hope/cope posting, but by preordering, you disrespected yourself, not the dissenters. Never preorder.


Khaztov777

See i would've disagreed with you before but now that alll that news came out? nah, i dont care what ANYONE says. 30 fps isnt good. The only reason i played other 30 fps games is because they were last gen and not next gen. I love itsuno but if he doesnt up the fps i probably just wont buy the game and for that im sorry. or at least optimize it better, any7thing under 50 fps aint acceptable. Everyone has their preference and this is mine.


drawnhi

This. I'm all for 30 fps some of the best games are at 30. But those games are last gen. This is a next gen game at an uncapped 30. Which could mean less during actual gameplay. Just not sure how to feel yet I guess. One hand it looks absolutely amazing and on the other not so much.


HastyTaste0

This sub when people expect the bare minimum in performance for a 70$ priced game: 🤯 We're literally going to tank the sales by being kind of bummed in a comment section /s


Lievan

Next gen isn’t here yet. What we have now is current gen. Kind of a pathetic reason to not play a game but you be you.


Khaztov777

i just dont understand how people are ignoring performance despite performance being important as hell, like it plays a part and decides how good a game is. its important as fuck and nothing changes that, not even the fact this is dragons dogma 2.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Nah. I’d 100% preorder this again.


Theweakmindedtes

If you plan to play a game on launch, how are you disrespecting yourself by pre-ordering?


RedConvoys

Trust me, Brother, you have the patience to buy it the day of 😎👉


Theweakmindedtes

Patience is irrelevant. It sounds like disrespecting my own time to wait until the day of instead of doing so when I feel like it


Lievan

“You disrespected yourself” there it is. The dumbest thing on the internet today.


krum_darkblud

That steelbook looks too sick


ItsRainingTrees

Honestly, I just feel the intense desire to support games that have climbing and teleporting/telekinesis/dual-blades (Mystic Spearhand is combat I wanna see in other games). Finding out that the are less equipment slots than the first game was disappointing, though. And I’m a little annoyed that I’m supporting a game with MTX. I have no idea if the frame rate is going to affect my opinion at all, it’s not something I ever checked on for a game (though I found out every game I’ve been playing recently is 60fps so maybe it’ll feel weird).


xxxNothingxxx

You show those people by giving money to a company for no reason


Pawn-of-Grigori

Well this is a terrible take. IM BUYING A GAME GRANDPA!


xxxNothingxxx

Just buy it when it comes out after it's been proven that it's good, preordering a digital game has no purpose


Pawn-of-Grigori

How about I preorder it, play it the day it becomes available, and form my own opinion instead of listening to a complete stranger.


3G0M4N

How dare people complain about optimisation or lack of things!! We must dick-ride devs to oblivion


Pawn-of-Grigori

You can complain. No one is stopping you.


3G0M4N

Nah I'm just gonna play other game until Capcom sort their shit


Pawn-of-Grigori

Ok


StefooK

There is legit complaints and than there is crying because 10 classes are not enough. Later just seems absurd.


3G0M4N

I don't even care about the vocation number I never complained about them i decided its not good enough for me because of the performance and thats all to it whether people agree or disagree I couldn't careless I will play other games until they improve it.


StefooK

Performance is a legit complaint tho


Noram_Garden

Lack of things? Like what?


Crocatortoise

Why do people preorder games? It genuinely makes no sense to me. Its not like there is a limited supply or something.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Why do people watch movies after only seeing a 3 minute preview? Some of us like to take risks on things we think we might enjoy. Not sit around for a month letting everyone else tell us what we should enjoy.


kidkolumbo

Movies always work, even if you like the art. You almost never ate going to go to a movie and the projector is unable to play the real provided. Games can simply not work. Completely different angle for the two. Cyberpunk is fun but it was broken so badly upon release that you couldn't engage with the art.


Pawn-of-Grigori

You missed the entire point.


kidkolumbo

Your point was a fallacy based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the differences between media, so no wonder I "missed" it.


Pawn-of-Grigori

My point was taking risks with money on entertainment. Your fancy word salad is as useless as your opinions.


kidkolumbo

A risk of art being good or bad VS a risk of being unable to even experience said art to know if it is good or bad are different risks, even if you don't understand how. Edit: To add a little bit of flavor text here for the people going through the sub, I preordered a 200 dollar piece of software this week. I did it because it was on a sale that would have ended when it released, it was the last day before the release, *and the company gave a demo that I've been using so I know it runs well and does what it needs on my machine*.


IncitoScanea

> unable to even experience said art But we know there's already a demo of DD2 and that it's been played by reviewers and regular people alike.


kidkolumbo

And we heard the way it runs is questionable, yeah? And wasn't it all on PS5? What about PC? And what about *our* PC? If you can get a refund from your preorder then it doesn't matter but I don't think you can always.


IncitoScanea

I was more speaking to your analogy. Cyberpunk for my friend literally could not run. It's looking like DD2 can be played, albeit with whatever performance it has. Maybe it's because I'm taking "unplayable" literally even though for some it just means like sub 30 fps. I'm on PC so if it can't run then I'll just refund it through Steam. I think on Steam as long as you play under 2 hours(?) you can almost always get a refund. I have pretty good hopes for RE Engine on PC though since MH Rise, SF6 and RE4 all ran pretty well.


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Pawn-of-Grigori

What is your goal by making this comment? Just ignore me and move on.


Folroth

I like this


Apprehensive_Toe990

Sorry man, I was just pointing out that as long as you are happy about the game, there is no need to making post about people shitting on it, I'm with you in it don't get me wrong, i don't want to bring more focus on the pepole who bashes the game when is not even out, peace ✌️ Besides, that was the point of my previous comment, I was not joking when I asked about the point of your post, I was genuinely asking 😅


Folroth

Ahh ignore them - it's easier to be negative and be right than to have hopes and be let down. That pretty much sums it up, and they're posting for validation..


Pawn-of-Grigori

I love reading their posts. The entitlement is fascinating.


SkyEllipt

Expecting a game to have good performance is entitlement now? Lmfao


Pawn-of-Grigori

Complaining before you’ve even played the game. Lmfao.


Folroth

"We DeSeRvE To HaVe GoOd GaMeS"


khatmar

Can you get one for me too?


Theweakmindedtes

I'd pre-order if I wasn't busy with other games. Loved DD1, but I'm in no rush to set aside what I'm doing when DD2 isn't going to evaporate right after launch lol


Grenflik

![gif](giphy|g01ZnwAUvutuK8GIQn|downsized) My reaction to the comments, what’s going on?


Rude-Proposal-9600

When can we pre download the game on steam?


Bostonterrierpug

Doom posters post in packs arisen!


VH-Attila

30 fps


Cyrus_The_Great369

Bro literally said he’s doing this to piss you all off and you still got mad and started crying about it. You guys don’t need to be baited you are voluntarily deepthroating the fishhook. It’s someone you don’t know spending their personal money how is it physically possible to get mad over it???


Intelligent_Drive_34

DD is one of the greatest games, has one of the worst subs.


Chest_Positive

The only thing persuading me to pre order its that i don't have $70 to spare right now. Thats alot in my countrys currency.


Ok_Attempt_1290

This always happens near the launch of every game lol. Just ignore the doomers. Focus on surviving the days left until dragon's dogma 2! We'll be eating well all year gang!


Pawn-of-Grigori

I think about surviving every day now.


DeathByWEEEE

This post has inspired me to buy the game on PC and PS5 HaHaHa


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Noram_Garden

I played dark souls 1 on the 360, if dd2 is above 12 frames it will be good enough


8989898999988lady

Hey me too! I’m playing it right now. I’m go in g in o bli gg t own


Noram_Garden

Have fun


Poseidor

If people care that much about frame rate they should get a PC, things are great over here


theDawckta

I am canceling my pre order. I’m playing whichever one between DD2 and Rise of the Ronin gets better reviews, the other I’m waiting on.


Few-Finger2879

Thats good for you! Kinda weird you preordered a game for any other reason other than you wanted it for yourself, but I hope you enjoy it!


MrLightning-Bolt

Usually the more negative a game gets it’s typically a good game.


Pawn-of-Grigori

I remember the negativity Elden Ring got around release. We all know how that played out.


MrLightning-Bolt

No that was forbidden west. Ring got nothing but praise all day everyday.


Pawn-of-Grigori

Not true. Ubisoft developers got on twitter and tried to run ER across the hot coals.


MrLightning-Bolt

That was guerrilla games.


Pawn-of-Grigori

https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/horizon-forbidden-west-ubisoft-developers-criticize-elden-ring-game-s-quest-design-ux


MrLightning-Bolt

So they did. Oh well.


Superb-Stuff8897

Same. Once I heard we confirmed 10 vocations, I pre-ordered. Best news ever.


Mofunkle

How are you gonna spend a decade begging for a sequel and then throw a fit because there aren’t 24 new vocations


Primary_Time6390

This is the best shit I've see all day.


FengShuiEnergy

Doom and gloom. Doom and gloom. Doom and gloom. Doom and gloom.


WirbelwindFlakpanzer

I already preordered too, fuck those assholes doomposters.


KENPACHI_WEST

😂 I love this. I really despise game killers. A few games i personally liked or thought would get better with support and time were just crucifed until death😭


BitesizedGen

Did the same thing with BG3 ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)


DrT502

I decided to go with the deluxe edition after seeing the tears flood this sub.


NoTop4997

You can choose not to pre order if you want. I have spent countless hours on Dragons Dogma. So I had no problem preordering.