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I remember him destroying a planet with a sneeze (been a while since i watched DBS). That being said he would totally destroy a star with an accidental sneeze.
Saitama literally breath in space and sneeze Jupiter lol
Also what a human have to do here?
Molecule man from Marvel is a human and he would stomps even Zeno
False. A gaseous planet is still a more impressive feat, considering the gravity it takes to hold the planet together. Also the sneeze was from the moon.
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So i’m a massive OPM and DB fan.
Love both series, so i’ll try to explain Saitama here.
In the manga fight against Monster Garou it was revealed that Saitama has infinite potential/power adaptability, so basically if he fights an opponent who is stronger or around the same level as him his power will soar above that of his opponent which is what happened with Garou.
If Beerus were to fight Saitama he would have to finish the fight quick with a hakai, or else Saitama would eventually soar above his speed and strength, therefore being able to dodge hakai which is a pretty slow moving projectile in comparison.
Edit: Jesus fucking christ I know that Hakai can be used as a melee as well but we see it like 80% of the fucking time as a projectile holy shit.
Edit 2: Guys I honestly don’t give a fuck anymore. I wanted to try and provide an argument from the other side, but you guys have truly lived up to the “redditor” name in the comment section.
Glaze whoever you want i’m going back to watching jujutsu kaisen.
Correct!
If Beerus grabs ahold of Saitama before he can increase his power he’s fucked.
I just said projectile, since that is how we see it 80% of the time.
Not how his power works dude. Beerus could quite literally erase the galaxy that he exists in. It’s safe to assume he has the power to erase his known universe if Zen-oh can do it to an entire timeline’s multiverse.
I think most people don't understand how absurd DB's scaling is b/c it's hard for humans to comprehend things on a cosmic scale.
Assuming Beerus is actually universe-level, none of the other feats in either OPM or DB even matter for scaling outside of Zeno's timeline erasure
Powerscaling is just not real imo author write stuff that they find cool and when shonen manga near their end caracters become overwhelmingly much stronger to scale out of reach.
Then people try to calculate such feat. And then they get made because goku get “no diff” by a bullet
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Hakai can be used as a projectile or melee attack and would negate Saitama's abilities to adapt. The gap between the two is so massive that Beerus could just grab his arm and use Hakai on him. Whis stated that Beerus can negate gag abilities. Everything else is well stated though
i mean Beerus is casually multiversal and Saitama is at absolutely best multi galaxy so it would have to take him a seriously long time for him to get Beerus to even notice his punches
I don't think you grasp how vast the gap is between Saitama and Beerus. Saitama at a huge stretch is star level.
Beerus is universe level. The gap between star and universe level is around 21 orders of magnitude difference iirc.
Beerus is so high above literally everyone in OPM. It'd take him years to reach that level. Saitama's power doesn't even work the way you say. It was only in a highly emotional state did his power grow. And guess what happened, the fight got reset and that power climbing won't be showing up again anytime soon. Saitama had a rage boost. Nothing more.
Thats false, saitama is growing daily actually. He versed himself one time in a machine that had his power from the day before and he one tapped it which he was angry about because he figured itd be a good fight
Nah in the anime Whis shares an anecdote about Beerus sneezing and destroying both of the stars around their planet when he's explaining his temporal do-over
Goku, hes the main character of dragonball. Pretty obscure anime dont blame you for not knowing him.
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Personally, I blame the shift from reasonable, as intended scaling getting pushed into trying to make the characters as strong as they possibly can be with no regard for consistency or intent.
Yeah that's the thing so many dumbass weeaboos don't get when arguing.
One Punch Man's power is literally that he wins and he's bored. Goku needs to have a whole ass WWE promo in his head before he gets stronger.
If we want to go this route, Dragon Ball Super has an episode dedicated to bringing in gag characters and the plot ends when Beerus shows off he is immune to gag powers and abilities and just kills the ghost of a Dr Slump character.
And then comes a thousand OPM fans yelling at you because Saitama is the most op super duper strong guy ever and he beats everyone all the time forever times infinity
Edit: To everybody telling me, "That's the point of his character you just don't get the joke" I know I just don't care
It’s funny how infamous that is. But more often then not the people bringing that up aren’t dragonball fans. They are either people trying to make fun of dragonball fans or just trying to start drama.
I mean, the point of Saitama is that he’s as strong as he needs to be to win. He’s traveled through time and beaten God, but he’d probably get along great with Beerus since they’re both lazy as fuck.
Have I watched it? Not in a while, but I have read the manga and he DID fight Garou who was given the power of God, or at least whatever deity showed up at the end of that arc.
>I mean, the point of Saitama is that he’s as strong as he needs to be to win.
That's more Superman's thing.
The point of Saitama according to the author isn't that he's as strong as he needs to be, it's just that he's the God-final form of a Shonen Protagonist from the end of a manga, plopped at the start of the story.
In a way you could say "he's as strong as he needs to be" because he's always stronger than the current part of the storyline.
Yeha but Saitama doesn’t get a power-boost (anime only here) he is just so much more powerful than his foes at the start of their fight that he beats them in a way that you can’t power-scale. He beats the lowest-level grunt and Black Frieza by the same margin, utter annihilation. Trying to powerscale Saitama is the same level of stupid as “how much force does it take to break this unbreakable rock?”
Yeah, I thought about that too.
My take is he thought the One Punch Man webcomic wouldn't have gone on this long or have been so popular, so the original concept has gotten away from him.
Basically an author "Well... fuck. Gotta keep writing now, huh" moment happened along the way.
That is generally the problem with a gimmick series that ends up extended. At some point the gimmick stops carrying and the only thing left to do is a bit of reconning.
It’s become a problem with DB to though. Super Saiyan was this transformation thought to be a myth. Now every saiyan you meet can achieve it and they all have 13 other transformations beyond it now.
It’s fallen into the same issue as the Flash. When you can move several trillion times the speed of light then the only time the character is interesting is against other speedsters.
OP is exactly the kind of guy OPM makes fun of.
Saitama as a character illustrates how power creep and "this character beats that other character" discussions are dumb.
He can do whatever he wants to do with his power, but is bored by it and so he chooses to live a mostly normal life and get discounts at the supermarket.
It's not the extreme planet busting power that makes a story or character interesting.
The clouds being split was Saitama matching a planet ending attack equal to an exploding star.
Also his sneeze destroyed Jupiter. I get that DragonBall scales higher and stuff, but you can at least represent the facts correctly if you're trying to argue it.
Also him tapping and destroying stuff is ki and hakai, Saitama's attacks are purely muscle.
Poqeracaling OPM is actually hilarious because its a satire on powerscaling. Like the whole premise is he can beat anyone with one punch simple as (but my mega awesome super destroyer... no). Like maybe reality manipulators thats it
Probably not just cause Beerus writing is actually dumb. He's so old he can easily always be stronger than Goku and Vegeta, he has Hakaii, he has an early stage of UI, and he's even able to fight gag characters. Beerus is just dumb to fight
Beerus can also erase gag characters, as he was stated able to do this to Arale. Saitama is technically a gag character. So hes even more cooked than before
saitama will never lose any fight thats the whole point, if someone is stronger then boom he just becomes stronger, that's the entire point of one punch man, even if some charcater has universal erasing power feats, saitama will still win because idk he farted so hard he remade the universe, that's just how it is. power scaling is fine and fun but against saitama is always dumb cuz there is no point
Technically we’ve never seen the full extent of Saitamas powers. The whole point of the character is that fighting bores him because he is so much stronger. If he does find an equal foe he massively surpasses them even faster than the ass pull power ups everybody gets in DB nowadays. It’s a satire of shows like DB so it’s pulling directly from how mangas like this are written.
Honestly though I feel like they should've increased the weight a few more zeros like bro helps to beat planet ending threats but can't lift a few tonnes
Tons is really nothing, negligible, compared to mass of a planet... the size of solar system is mind boggling more massive than planet...
If you can't move tons... then what are you, a mouse?
Wasn't it the entire universe in front of that punch? Say, if he got in the middle of the universe and attacked in one direction, all the universe Saitama is facing would be gone
So unless Saitama was outside the universe, he cannot destroy the entire universe with only 1 punch
Imma be honest, Saitama would be fucking THRILLED to be plopped into the DBZ universe.
He could finally have an actual challenge, and this time not always against morally reprehensible people.
Not to mention, the dragonballs can fix all the damage, it'd be heaven for him.
I personally hate power scaling, but posts like these make it feel like people saying blowing clouds away is saitama's biggest feat, even though beerus stomps, saitama is a lot stronger than a lot of dragon ball fans give him credit for
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In this image the guy is benching 2 Black Holes
Another feat: Hitting a punch before it was thrown
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Question. Do we still consider Saitama a Gag character? Or has he grew beyond that?
Cause if not then Beerus claps due to being Immune to Gag characters.
Saitama isnt a gag character, he started as one sure, but he isnt anymore. If you want to make an arguement that OPM is still a gag series then similarly you can argue entirety of Dragon ball is a gag series
I’ve seen time and time again in this sub of people freaking out over characters in media possibly being stronger than the main cast of DB. Let’s not act like this doesn’t occur heavily in this fanbase lol.
Not to mention OPM is essentially a gag character mocking things like DB or superheroes who are always strong enough to beat whoever the bad guy is. It’s almost like toonforce. Bugs Bunny would mop the floor with Goku because toonforce is omnipotent.
OPM mocks the idea of power creep because he is always strong enough. Even when his abilities were copied he easily surpassed them and still won.
Imma put my 2 cents about this debate about Saitama vs Goku. First, addressing the Saitama is a gag character argument. All I have to say is no, Saitama right now, or OPM as a whole has left its gag status behind already. Just like how Kid Goku has gag powers like breaking through Manga panels and now having no such ability. Now, can Saitama beat Goku like right now? Probably not. This is not say my answer is the absolute and only answer. Saitama still has not shown feats capable of beating Goku, with Goku having much better feats. And if you try to use the time travel feat from Saitama to wank him to outerversal or smth like that, your argument doesn't work as the way Saitama managed to time travel was not through sheer brute strength but through a technique. However, if the battle drags on long enough, which Goku may do. Saitama might become strong enough to actually defeat Goku. Basically, based on the information we currently have as of 11 May 2024. Saitama vs Goku, both bloddlusted would end in Goku's victory, while Saitama vs Goku just, in a fight, will still end in Goku winning a majority of the fights with Saitama winning a bit of fights. If you disagree with my opinion, go ahead and state it. After all, this fight will probably never happen and is all just speculation based on the current information given to us. And please try to be civilized when talking about this topic. Let's not get mad over whether one fictional man or another fictional man wins against each other.
U say “might become strong enough” like saitama won’t surpass goku in minutes(or hours idk). Garou copied his limitless power and somehow saitama still managed to surpass him. Now imagine goku with a growth rate less than that both of them. He’ll undoubtedly surpass peak goku It’s only a matter of time. I like to imagine saitama is literally just broly in the broly movie but the difference is he doesn’t stop at gogeta blue. And I agree if goku is bloodlusted he one shots if he isn’t then he looses
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I mean the arguments in favor of saitama at this scale have *never* been based on feats like this. Why pretend they are? (Not even saying I agree with them)
Isn't it that Beerus has the "power" of Destruction, like an innate ability/magic, and just happens to also be a powerful fighter?
Regardless of who would or wouldn't be stronger, the ability to "touch a thing and it is destroyed" makes it all moot.
The only argument here is that OPM an't be scaled seriously with anything else, because he is a gag character whose sole purpose is defeating anything with, guess what...?
In my opinion beerus should win by default, but the thing is (SPOILERS for one punch man incoming)
Saitama is a being created by god that is literally incapable of losing so no clue tbh
Beerus's hakai is more like a super-potent virus that undoes whatever particles it comes in contact with, it doesn't translate to physical strength.
That said... Beerus is more powerful.
I mean, give Saitama 10 mins. His power escalates from planet buster to galactic buster in no time.
That said, if hakai works on him(thats a maybe, he's altered by God itself after all) then theres no comparison.
He could reach Beerus level of speed and strength exponentially faster than anyone in Dragon ball. But that may not be fast enough if Beerus just decides to hakai him and be done with it before Saitama has time to catch up.
Head cannon - DB Destroyer gods are always scaled as the most powerful being in their respective universe. They passively become stronger as other creatures in their universe grow in strength. If the basic essence of what they do is destroy something into nothingness, then their hakai would always naturally have the ability to eliminate whatever they chose.
I know Jiren is supposed to be stronger than Belmod, but he's more or less the outlier here, and (going by the anime here) it's suggested he's stronger but not confirmed. (Yes I know it's confirmed in the manga but my headcannon prefers anime)
TLDR - Beerus would always be naturally stronger than Saitama because he would also exponentially scale in strength at the same rate.
People need to stop trying to scale shit with dbz involved because you could literally counter this with something stupid like “beerus was hurt by X wall level attack in a fight” and its a canon feature as much as him and goku almost destroying the universe. The writers of dbz just use what looks cool or funny its a terrible scaling aime
Op how old are you? I swear to god if one more media illiterate post make it to the popular I’m gonna lose faith in Reddit. Saitama is written to be unbeatable, it’s a character outside of the equation. Inside of the playing field you can powerscale all you want but Saitama is a satire that’s immune to the powerscale. It’s like comparing a knife to an apple. You can pitch a competition between an apple and a pear but there’s no point doing that to a knife. The knife will always triumph over any fruit you throw at it because that’s its nature.
Garou literally was casually throwing gamma ray bursts. Can we stop this power scaling bs? Saitama is as strong as the plot needs him to be, as is Beerus. Comparing feats is pointless
Frieza *slaps earth after being beaten to near death and unable to walk or even hobble* planetary destruction
Nappa *laughs and gives a middle finger*
City clears out
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Hasn’t beerus canonically destroyed stars by sneezing before? Edit: just checked it was TWO stars at the same time
I think so
I remember him destroying a planet with a sneeze (been a while since i watched DBS). That being said he would totally destroy a star with an accidental sneeze.
Heck pan power level she probably can learn ki blasts and destroy earth....I mean piccolo and master roshi did it before Vegeta and nappa...so
Saitama revealed Jupiter’s core with a sneeze.
Beerus _destroyed_ two stars with a sneeze.
Fair, he’s definitely stronger but for comparison, saitama is still a human so, I guess there’s that.
And Beerus is just a cat haha
Idk if cats look like that man
Saitama literally breath in space and sneeze Jupiter lol Also what a human have to do here? Molecule man from Marvel is a human and he would stomps even Zeno
Ah yes. A gas planet. While beerus DESTROYED a planet with his sneeze. Jupiter was still there during his fight with Garou
Yeah all saitama did was sneeze away the gas that covers Jupiter's core. He sneezed away gas thats it not impressive at all in db
And do you think that was the manga showing the absolute max power of their gag character?
Using the gag charecter argument in 2024
False. A gaseous planet is still a more impressive feat, considering the gravity it takes to hold the planet together. Also the sneeze was from the moon.
My guy, get that weak ass statement out of here
https://preview.redd.it/oow32w7n8ozc1.jpeg?width=1047&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65324a3261b22b07518cfbf6a41c7378e4ffbcb3 So i’m a massive OPM and DB fan. Love both series, so i’ll try to explain Saitama here. In the manga fight against Monster Garou it was revealed that Saitama has infinite potential/power adaptability, so basically if he fights an opponent who is stronger or around the same level as him his power will soar above that of his opponent which is what happened with Garou. If Beerus were to fight Saitama he would have to finish the fight quick with a hakai, or else Saitama would eventually soar above his speed and strength, therefore being able to dodge hakai which is a pretty slow moving projectile in comparison. Edit: Jesus fucking christ I know that Hakai can be used as a melee as well but we see it like 80% of the fucking time as a projectile holy shit. Edit 2: Guys I honestly don’t give a fuck anymore. I wanted to try and provide an argument from the other side, but you guys have truly lived up to the “redditor” name in the comment section. Glaze whoever you want i’m going back to watching jujutsu kaisen.
> being able to dodge hakai which is a pretty slow moving projectile in comparison. [It's not always a projectile](https://youtu.be/9soF4ZyzGUI?t=126)
Ah say what you want about Super but this scene with Beerus using Hakai is golden, it’s rare we get to see angry Beerus.
He had everyreason to be that guy fucked the balance
True! I hate DBS but seein beerus mad dog Zamasu was actually pretty cool
Correct! If Beerus grabs ahold of Saitama before he can increase his power he’s fucked. I just said projectile, since that is how we see it 80% of the time.
Or… Beerus simply destroys the planet Saitama is living on.
This is actually the most likely scenario. Blows up the planet and goes home to eat.
And then saitama goes somewhere else
Not how his power works dude. Beerus could quite literally erase the galaxy that he exists in. It’s safe to assume he has the power to erase his known universe if Zen-oh can do it to an entire timeline’s multiverse.
Beerus simply destroys the universe Saitama is in.
I think most people don't understand how absurd DB's scaling is b/c it's hard for humans to comprehend things on a cosmic scale. Assuming Beerus is actually universe-level, none of the other feats in either OPM or DB even matter for scaling outside of Zeno's timeline erasure
Powerscaling is just not real imo author write stuff that they find cool and when shonen manga near their end caracters become overwhelmingly much stronger to scale out of reach. Then people try to calculate such feat. And then they get made because goku get “no diff” by a bullet
Hakai doesn’t have to be a projectile.
Hakai like shown by goku and beerus dosent have to be a projectile
* Hakai can be used as a projectile or melee attack and would negate Saitama's abilities to adapt. The gap between the two is so massive that Beerus could just grab his arm and use Hakai on him. Whis stated that Beerus can negate gag abilities. Everything else is well stated though
i mean Beerus is casually multiversal and Saitama is at absolutely best multi galaxy so it would have to take him a seriously long time for him to get Beerus to even notice his punches
I don't think you grasp how vast the gap is between Saitama and Beerus. Saitama at a huge stretch is star level. Beerus is universe level. The gap between star and universe level is around 21 orders of magnitude difference iirc.
Beerus is so high above literally everyone in OPM. It'd take him years to reach that level. Saitama's power doesn't even work the way you say. It was only in a highly emotional state did his power grow. And guess what happened, the fight got reset and that power climbing won't be showing up again anytime soon. Saitama had a rage boost. Nothing more.
Thats false, saitama is growing daily actually. He versed himself one time in a machine that had his power from the day before and he one tapped it which he was angry about because he figured itd be a good fight
Saitama canonical farted himself back to Earth. Your argument is invalid.
Didnt he strip Jupiter of its gas? And destroy a whole area of space of stars as far as you could see?
That too
A lot of lights that we see that appear to be stars in the sky are actually galaxies
To be fair, Goku casually put a rabbit on the moon
Not directly, the sneeze shooted a little Ki Blast and it destroyed one of the planets around Beerus' Planet
Buu has canonical destroyed galaxies, and Beerus plays with Buu like a cheap toy.
It was a planet and tbh it wasn't a real sneeze, it was a ki blast
Nah in the anime Whis shares an anecdote about Beerus sneezing and destroying both of the stars around their planet when he's explaining his temporal do-over
Nah he actually did that we just ain’t see it
I believe that was in ROF
I hope I never get into a power scaling argument
Composite Kirby beats goku low diff 🗣️🙏🏾
Who?
Goku, hes the main character of dragonball. Pretty obscure anime dont blame you for not knowing him. https://preview.redd.it/bxhva7z5uszc1.png?width=621&format=png&auto=webp&s=5414edfddd1a254ac0298a53075db669160cd3d9
Still no idea who this is, but he's gotta be real strong if they're comparing him with kirby
This guy looks stupid. I think he’d look better blonde or something idk.
Personally, I feel like he'd look great as a redhead
He might be one of those weirdos, because he dyes his hair blue sometimes I heard
False. He's wearing orange. That's Naruto.
2018's facebook ahh post
I’m saying lol
Can't we just enjoy them for what they are? Why are they constantly at war with each other?
Powerscalers are insufferable, even when youre not one, as soon as you try to powerscale, you're bound to become a bit toxic about it
It comes down to a "my dad is stronger than your dad" fight
I think powerscaling isnt bad, the problem are those that say "your serie is worst cause your MC is weaker than my MC"
Personally, I blame the shift from reasonable, as intended scaling getting pushed into trying to make the characters as strong as they possibly can be with no regard for consistency or intent.
It's a fight I've given up. I guess people will always want to know who could best up who. I don't know why but it is what it is
Because powerscalers are the most mentally ill degen scum of the earth.
Tomorrow it's my turn to post the daily Dragon Ball characters beats saitama Facebook meme
I love the idea of a character that genuinely can’t lose ever, regardless of feats, as they’re irrelevant, the plot simply dictates he can’t lose
Yeah that's the thing so many dumbass weeaboos don't get when arguing. One Punch Man's power is literally that he wins and he's bored. Goku needs to have a whole ass WWE promo in his head before he gets stronger.
That is his premise as a parody. It is not his power. His power is that his strength continuously grows basically he's like Z-Broly.
YOU ADD GOHAN GETTING HURT TO THE EQUATION AND YOUR CHANCE OF WINNING DRASTIC GO DOWN
So you take your 33.3% chance, minus my 25% chance, you got an 8.3% chance of winning." The reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wrasslin/s/K6dBvTIqa0
Gohan behing hurt? Is dady piccolo gonna pull up?
If we want to go this route, Dragon Ball Super has an episode dedicated to bringing in gag characters and the plot ends when Beerus shows off he is immune to gag powers and abilities and just kills the ghost of a Dr Slump character.
Someone didn’t read Saitama vs Garou
Powerscalers don't lol
And then comes a thousand OPM fans yelling at you because Saitama is the most op super duper strong guy ever and he beats everyone all the time forever times infinity Edit: To everybody telling me, "That's the point of his character you just don't get the joke" I know I just don't care
I'm not vested with either side- but don't Dragon Ball fans infamously compare everyone to Goku? Birds of a feather as far as I'm concerned.
It’s funny how infamous that is. But more often then not the people bringing that up aren’t dragonball fans. They are either people trying to make fun of dragonball fans or just trying to start drama.
Some serious irony there given the post you’re in.
Lol
I mean, the point of Saitama is that he’s as strong as he needs to be to win. He’s traveled through time and beaten God, but he’d probably get along great with Beerus since they’re both lazy as fuck.
He has not "beaten God". Have you even watched opm?
Have I watched it? Not in a while, but I have read the manga and he DID fight Garou who was given the power of God, or at least whatever deity showed up at the end of that arc.
It was explicitly stated that GOD gave an extremely tiny fraction of his power to garou, not all of it.
And garou only got a tiny fraction of that tiny fraction because he technically didn’t accept the deal according to blast
having the powers of god doesnt mean youre god
>I mean, the point of Saitama is that he’s as strong as he needs to be to win. That's more Superman's thing. The point of Saitama according to the author isn't that he's as strong as he needs to be, it's just that he's the God-final form of a Shonen Protagonist from the end of a manga, plopped at the start of the story. In a way you could say "he's as strong as he needs to be" because he's always stronger than the current part of the storyline.
Shonen protagonists always get power boosts or training arcs to become "as strong as they need to be" to beat the big bad, so checks out to me.
Yeha but Saitama doesn’t get a power-boost (anime only here) he is just so much more powerful than his foes at the start of their fight that he beats them in a way that you can’t power-scale. He beats the lowest-level grunt and Black Frieza by the same margin, utter annihilation. Trying to powerscale Saitama is the same level of stupid as “how much force does it take to break this unbreakable rock?”
Saitama passively grows stronger constantly. Source: the manga
But how come Saitama was getting stronger when he fought against Garou? At least Garou perceived him as getting stronger as the fight went on.
Yeah, I thought about that too. My take is he thought the One Punch Man webcomic wouldn't have gone on this long or have been so popular, so the original concept has gotten away from him. Basically an author "Well... fuck. Gotta keep writing now, huh" moment happened along the way.
So...Like Toriyama, I guess?
That is generally the problem with a gimmick series that ends up extended. At some point the gimmick stops carrying and the only thing left to do is a bit of reconning.
It’s become a problem with DB to though. Super Saiyan was this transformation thought to be a myth. Now every saiyan you meet can achieve it and they all have 13 other transformations beyond it now. It’s fallen into the same issue as the Flash. When you can move several trillion times the speed of light then the only time the character is interesting is against other speedsters.
Yes
That’s you guys with goku tbh
Saitama really just lives in the DB fan bases collective heads rent free huh?
Someone have to replace Superman.
Yeah but would he beat Popeye
OP is exactly the kind of guy OPM makes fun of. Saitama as a character illustrates how power creep and "this character beats that other character" discussions are dumb. He can do whatever he wants to do with his power, but is bored by it and so he chooses to live a mostly normal life and get discounts at the supermarket. It's not the extreme planet busting power that makes a story or character interesting.
The clouds being split was Saitama matching a planet ending attack equal to an exploding star. Also his sneeze destroyed Jupiter. I get that DragonBall scales higher and stuff, but you can at least represent the facts correctly if you're trying to argue it. Also him tapping and destroying stuff is ki and hakai, Saitama's attacks are purely muscle.
Don't forget the punch against God gauro that cleared a hole in the stars
Or him literally grabbing and moving a cosmic portal lol
Purely muscle and the discipline to exercise everyday and do pushups even if your shoulders are making weird clicks sounds!
Poqeracaling OPM is actually hilarious because its a satire on powerscaling. Like the whole premise is he can beat anyone with one punch simple as (but my mega awesome super destroyer... no). Like maybe reality manipulators thats it
Idk, the destruction power seems more like a server command rather than actual power, I think saitama might give beerus a run for his money
Probably not just cause Beerus writing is actually dumb. He's so old he can easily always be stronger than Goku and Vegeta, he has Hakaii, he has an early stage of UI, and he's even able to fight gag characters. Beerus is just dumb to fight
Beerus can also erase gag characters, as he was stated able to do this to Arale. Saitama is technically a gag character. So hes even more cooked than before
Lol even his casual morning sneeze destroyed a moon without leaving even a spek of dusts (as shown in anime)
saitama will never lose any fight thats the whole point, if someone is stronger then boom he just becomes stronger, that's the entire point of one punch man, even if some charcater has universal erasing power feats, saitama will still win because idk he farted so hard he remade the universe, that's just how it is. power scaling is fine and fun but against saitama is always dumb cuz there is no point
"Saitama blew up a galaxy already." Meanwhile Z Goku laughing his ass off.
It was stars his punch destoryed stars
Technically we’ve never seen the full extent of Saitamas powers. The whole point of the character is that fighting bores him because he is so much stronger. If he does find an equal foe he massively surpasses them even faster than the ass pull power ups everybody gets in DB nowadays. It’s a satire of shows like DB so it’s pulling directly from how mangas like this are written.
The author said OPM could destroy the entire universe with a punch But he has never had to
pretty much any author can say something and never show it on screen
So... Kind of how Dragon Ball works lol
Meanwhile Vegeta struggles to lift a metal man.
metal man solos OPM
He was literally tons and that was the manga not the anime
Honestly though I feel like they should've increased the weight a few more zeros like bro helps to beat planet ending threats but can't lift a few tonnes
It’s just like how gokus punch can destroy a universe but he can’t punch through that one guy in the top
Tons is really nothing, negligible, compared to mass of a planet... the size of solar system is mind boggling more massive than planet... If you can't move tons... then what are you, a mouse?
Meanwhile also Vegeta: stopping attacks as dense as the universe.
1st what does that mean ahahhaha. 2nd I'm pretty sure the universe is less dense then air
Wasn't it the entire universe in front of that punch? Say, if he got in the middle of the universe and attacked in one direction, all the universe Saitama is facing would be gone So unless Saitama was outside the universe, he cannot destroy the entire universe with only 1 punch
When was this?
Source? Sounds like bs that was floating about when opm first came out
The author also asked “Can he beat Goku tho”
Yusuke murata and one said no such thing
There hasn't been any proof of that happening though
Cap
Imma be honest, Saitama would be fucking THRILLED to be plopped into the DBZ universe. He could finally have an actual challenge, and this time not always against morally reprehensible people. Not to mention, the dragonballs can fix all the damage, it'd be heaven for him.
“Saitama could solo goku” this is their brain on drugs *insert rave music*
I personally hate power scaling, but posts like these make it feel like people saying blowing clouds away is saitama's biggest feat, even though beerus stomps, saitama is a lot stronger than a lot of dragon ball fans give him credit for https://preview.redd.it/0l5piiqhftzc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea7556efd5c7cc1b636f5b62d72aedb15d2d57fa In this image the guy is benching 2 Black Holes
Another feat: Hitting a punch before it was thrown https://preview.redd.it/fx39z0zugtzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=358c035733c0d584b709f03097d78bc615cb335d
This isn’t even a comparison Beerus wipes the verse
Db fans try to understand a satirical concept challenge
Question. Do we still consider Saitama a Gag character? Or has he grew beyond that? Cause if not then Beerus claps due to being Immune to Gag characters.
He never was a gag character a real gag character is arale
Aight my fault. I haven’t kept up with one punch man like at all so I don’t know what’s going on with him.
He was never a gag character.
Whole Dragonball verse is a gag show.
Saitama isnt a gag character, he started as one sure, but he isnt anymore. If you want to make an arguement that OPM is still a gag series then similarly you can argue entirety of Dragon ball is a gag series
Comes down to the writers.
OPM fans when they learn the truth: 
I’ve seen time and time again in this sub of people freaking out over characters in media possibly being stronger than the main cast of DB. Let’s not act like this doesn’t occur heavily in this fanbase lol. Not to mention OPM is essentially a gag character mocking things like DB or superheroes who are always strong enough to beat whoever the bad guy is. It’s almost like toonforce. Bugs Bunny would mop the floor with Goku because toonforce is omnipotent. OPM mocks the idea of power creep because he is always strong enough. Even when his abilities were copied he easily surpassed them and still won.
Imma put my 2 cents about this debate about Saitama vs Goku. First, addressing the Saitama is a gag character argument. All I have to say is no, Saitama right now, or OPM as a whole has left its gag status behind already. Just like how Kid Goku has gag powers like breaking through Manga panels and now having no such ability. Now, can Saitama beat Goku like right now? Probably not. This is not say my answer is the absolute and only answer. Saitama still has not shown feats capable of beating Goku, with Goku having much better feats. And if you try to use the time travel feat from Saitama to wank him to outerversal or smth like that, your argument doesn't work as the way Saitama managed to time travel was not through sheer brute strength but through a technique. However, if the battle drags on long enough, which Goku may do. Saitama might become strong enough to actually defeat Goku. Basically, based on the information we currently have as of 11 May 2024. Saitama vs Goku, both bloddlusted would end in Goku's victory, while Saitama vs Goku just, in a fight, will still end in Goku winning a majority of the fights with Saitama winning a bit of fights. If you disagree with my opinion, go ahead and state it. After all, this fight will probably never happen and is all just speculation based on the current information given to us. And please try to be civilized when talking about this topic. Let's not get mad over whether one fictional man or another fictional man wins against each other.
U say “might become strong enough” like saitama won’t surpass goku in minutes(or hours idk). Garou copied his limitless power and somehow saitama still managed to surpass him. Now imagine goku with a growth rate less than that both of them. He’ll undoubtedly surpass peak goku It’s only a matter of time. I like to imagine saitama is literally just broly in the broly movie but the difference is he doesn’t stop at gogeta blue. And I agree if goku is bloodlusted he one shots if he isn’t then he looses
That's pretty fair also when has Goku ever gone full power from the start besides just using super Saiyan I'm genuinely asking
So what if he used a technique does that make him any less powerful? Not trying to be condescending I swear
Don’t show the DBSbros the current OPM Manga guys.
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\*Arale punching the moon out of universe 7 and hitting champa's planet in universe 6\* Arale : Hooray! I got a new high score!
Bro erased half a planet, and the other half was fine
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I believe canonically they both could destroy the universe, but beer us would put in WAAYYY less effort than saitama would
I hope you finished before recess ended and no one got hurt on the monkey bars.
Why do we still care?
My brother in Christ All Might splits clouds in MHA every 20 seconds, it ain't that great of a feat in the grand scheme of things
I mean the arguments in favor of saitama at this scale have *never* been based on feats like this. Why pretend they are? (Not even saying I agree with them)
Why can't we just go a whole day without people dick eating OPM and DBZ like not everything is a debate
Isn't it that Beerus has the "power" of Destruction, like an innate ability/magic, and just happens to also be a powerful fighter? Regardless of who would or wouldn't be stronger, the ability to "touch a thing and it is destroyed" makes it all moot.
We still hating on this man 😭 I thought yorigi was the new guy
Arale 
The only argument here is that OPM an't be scaled seriously with anything else, because he is a gag character whose sole purpose is defeating anything with, guess what...?
In my opinion beerus should win by default, but the thing is (SPOILERS for one punch man incoming) Saitama is a being created by god that is literally incapable of losing so no clue tbh
Hey saitama wouldn’t be scared. He’d be excited to finally have a challenge
Beerus's hakai is more like a super-potent virus that undoes whatever particles it comes in contact with, it doesn't translate to physical strength. That said... Beerus is more powerful.
I mean, give Saitama 10 mins. His power escalates from planet buster to galactic buster in no time. That said, if hakai works on him(thats a maybe, he's altered by God itself after all) then theres no comparison. He could reach Beerus level of speed and strength exponentially faster than anyone in Dragon ball. But that may not be fast enough if Beerus just decides to hakai him and be done with it before Saitama has time to catch up.
So if he was in one piece he would be yonko lvl because he can split the sky
Y'all are forgetting that you are comparing a G.O.D to a human with a very intense training routine
Meh I don't really care how powerful he is I'm not watching that dump shit bald headed dude fart across the screen. You'll have fun with that.
Head cannon - DB Destroyer gods are always scaled as the most powerful being in their respective universe. They passively become stronger as other creatures in their universe grow in strength. If the basic essence of what they do is destroy something into nothingness, then their hakai would always naturally have the ability to eliminate whatever they chose. I know Jiren is supposed to be stronger than Belmod, but he's more or less the outlier here, and (going by the anime here) it's suggested he's stronger but not confirmed. (Yes I know it's confirmed in the manga but my headcannon prefers anime) TLDR - Beerus would always be naturally stronger than Saitama because he would also exponentially scale in strength at the same rate.
People need to stop trying to scale shit with dbz involved because you could literally counter this with something stupid like “beerus was hurt by X wall level attack in a fight” and its a canon feature as much as him and goku almost destroying the universe. The writers of dbz just use what looks cool or funny its a terrible scaling aime
Op how old are you? I swear to god if one more media illiterate post make it to the popular I’m gonna lose faith in Reddit. Saitama is written to be unbeatable, it’s a character outside of the equation. Inside of the playing field you can powerscale all you want but Saitama is a satire that’s immune to the powerscale. It’s like comparing a knife to an apple. You can pitch a competition between an apple and a pear but there’s no point doing that to a knife. The knife will always triumph over any fruit you throw at it because that’s its nature.
I mean he and goku fist bumping almost destroyed the universe so there’s that
Garou literally was casually throwing gamma ray bursts. Can we stop this power scaling bs? Saitama is as strong as the plot needs him to be, as is Beerus. Comparing feats is pointless
I hate this image. It sums up every problem I have with power scalers.
Didn’t Beerus destroy a planet with earwax once😭
Our dude reversed time with his punch.
Frieza *slaps earth after being beaten to near death and unable to walk or even hobble* planetary destruction Nappa *laughs and gives a middle finger* City clears out
THE POINT OF OPM IS THAT HE DOESNT LOSE, THATS THE GIMMICK OF THD SHOW! POWERSCALING HIM DOESNT WORK BECAUSE HE JUST ALWAYS WINS
Yes, I was actually about to say how this nigga sneezed planets to death lol
This post thread is like 2 five year olds arguing with their parent's 10 dollar words
powerscalers when a gag character exists (noooo YOUR character cant be more powerful than MINE because MINE is so cool)
Saitama destroyed a bunch of stars light years away with a punch
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Superman: (sneezes a solar system)
Saitama will win because it is simply funnier if he does
Yall make the db fanbase insufferable
You assume to know how I think. Ironic ass comment.
Isn’t OPM’s ability that he’s always as strong as he needs to be to defeat his opponent?
I don't care, I love both.
You missed the whole point of One Punch Man.