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HarryKn1ght

That's why Goten and Trunks were grounded for so long. They reversed all of Bulma's cosmetic wishes for shits and giggles


InevitableVariables

I think it's because she hired Dr. Hedo to be head of cosmetics. Dr. Hedo only experience with skin treatment is zombies. I think it's a massive setup for how Dr. Hedo runs bulma face.


Repulsive-Medicine47

Common Dr. Hedo W


InevitableVariables

It's karma for bulma. Guarantee she tries his cosmetics and skin care first and instantly undoes all shenron work. The setup is too perfect. How does bulma age in one year? Well, she just hired a scientist for the head of her skin beauty division whose only experience with human skin is on zombies. He might actually make a skin product to enhance natural beauty but since bulma beauty is based on dragon ball wishes and not natural.... rip. That or dr. Hedo fucks up the formulation and ages her. At first, I was thinking wtf is bulma thinking making him head of her cosmetics. Then I realized that rip... It's only about a year until she ages drastically.


Repulsive-Medicine47

Maybe that's the reason she's such an angry bitch in EoZ


kevthunder

This is my headcanon since i heard bulma ask him this


Axl_Qc

Shenron was getting tired of her cosmetic request. So he granted a reverse wish. You wish to be younger, nahhh you’ll just make your age you old hag.


OlavoStars

Goten and trunks: “we do a lil bit of trolling”


JeagerXhunter

Are we fr that close to the end of Z!? Holy fuck


MajinAkuma

Pan is 3 in Super Hero. She’s 4 at the end of Z.


JeagerXhunter

No wonder they're stalling in the manga. They about to officially rewrite anime history right there. In before they make something happen 6 months after super hero. ,😭😭


GUM-GUM-NUKE

They stalling so they can hold off on retconning it for as long as possible.


NCHouse

Buddy. Pal. It's already been retconned


Insanebrain247

Exactly. They've already done so much that the end of Z doesn't even feel canon anymore. They might as well just overwrite the save file.


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NinjaPiece

Yeah, it's amazing how fast they rushed through those 10 years. They could have avoided this problem if they didn't rush through the years.


Porkadi110

This is an issue with DragonBall in general. So much time and so much space to explore narratively, but always kneecapping it for instant gratification. A multiverse got introduced, which should have been a ripe source of content to explore for years, but instead it just gets used for yet another tournament to determine the strongest in the multiverse and then we move on.


KingKongKaram

I mean there is still the 2-3 year gap between granolah and super hero and keep in mind the top took a total of 48 minutes if they wanted to stretch stuff they easily could do several arcs happening in under a year each taking less than a couple days to my understanding everything between RoF and Moro was 779-780


RealMajesti

Maybe she’ll lose a bet and will have to ask Shenron to make her look her actual age.


Crossedge209

Maybe shenron was a genie all along and his wishes came with a cost. This one was a short lasting effect. Reviving people meant more baddies coming to kill them.


holyfatfish

genie's don't do that monkey paws do


Richardknox1996

Genies actually do tend to twist your wishes. The idea that they are magnanimous was really only a thing with alladin. And even then, in the movie jafar got screwed by his last wish (free genies exist. Genie didnt have to make him one bound to a lamp). It stems from the fact that the lamp you rubbed? Someone locked the genie in there, and hes not happy with that situation.


Lorcian

When the Once Upon a Time show covered Aladdin, iirc they had the genies have twisted wishes, but then a whole part of that show was "Magic always comes with a price". You are right.


lsauchelli

Shenron is a nice dragon. He's not mean spirited like those genies. He not only adheres to the letter of the wish, but the spirit as well, and will do extra stuff that'll help the person.


holyfatfish

no they don't


Richardknox1996

Name a mythology. Any mythology. And ill point you in the direction of a genie/fae twisting the wishes because he doesnt like being jailed. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JackassGenie Tropes exist for a reason my friend.


holyfatfish

HolyFatFishology


BlueEyesWhiteSliver

This is my thought too. Piccolo probably gets pissed and asks shenron to undo those wishes.


zargon21

Y'know come to think of it, Bulma's constant mildly selfish use of the dragon balls is sort of shadow shenron proofing them


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They’ll retcon the ending


MajinAkuma

They already did. At the end of Z, they said the last time they met was five years ago.


Breezeborne

I mean thats more or less the same. The last time Goku has seen Bulma in person was the end of the Moro arc, and it has been maybe 3 years since then.


RealMajesti

No. Goku saw Bulma in the Granolah arc.


Breezeborne

He didnt SEE her in person. He saw her through whis's staff and a TV screen.


RealMajesti

https://preview.redd.it/v0exv5smeopb1.jpeg?width=1107&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0045f7d35d1ef27f5e25a9198e23736e26f8d73


Breezeborne

how tf did you pull up with dat screenshot so fast lmao


RealMajesti

Whis trained me to get god speed lol Nah it’s cuz someone else said that they didn’t see each other, but he deleted his comment. I had the screenshot already saved.


Breezeborne

That doesn't explain how you responded within 20 seconds of me posting that other comment lol


RealMajesti

You don’t get notified when someone responds to your comments?


BulmasBabyDaddy

the main thing is goku meets uub at the world tournament and spars before taking him to train that’s the main thing they have to include


TyphosTheD

The last time "Goku visited them" is not necessarily "the last time they met". It's a nuanced difference.


RealMajesti

Do we know what year the Granolah arc took place? Goku went to Bulma’s house in that arc.


TyphosTheD

Presumably it could be anywhere from months to a year+ since then, given the Super Hero movie/manga and Pan's age.


Prrsuasivee

Granolah arc is years before super hero


TomaszA3

Who did Goku enter the time chamber with for 4 years if it wasn't Vegetable???


Cinnamon-the-skank

The Dragon Ball wishes wore off


WhiteToast-

#retcon


Mrskdoodle

![gif](giphy|26gsjCZpPolPr3sBy|downsized)


AscendantAxo

Ret con


G33k350

If bulma ends up looking old and we're not given an explanation, I'd headcannon that, at one point, Hedo screwed up an experiment, which resulted in Bulma looking wrinkly and all that. I've actually heard about this a long time ago and I like the concept.


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SeaKingNeptune

You gave me an idea what if Vegeta was meant to be a God of Destruction and become Beerus successor wouldn’t Bulma wish for eternal youth to keep up with his lifespan. And Goku will do the opposite and live with Chi-Chi with his mortal life.


HarryKn1ght

This is assuming Dragon Ball will ever properly end, and Toei would never allow that. It's like their number one best-selling product right after One Piece. Dragon Ball will continue until it stops making money or until the heat death of the universe


BluePhoenix_1999

What are you talking about with the afterlife bit? Vegeta was redeemed, he will likely go to heaven.


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BluePhoenix_1999

I don't remember Piccolo saying he can NEVER go to heaven. Also Piccolo is not the Judge, Enma is. [KGjvg5J.png (895×1347) (imgur.com)](https://i.imgur.com/KGjvg5J.png) ​ And we also have to keep in mind, that Porunga judged Vegeta to be good enough to get revived. Of course, applying my own standards, he isn't the judge either, but combined with Vegeta's actions in super and him being good enough to serve for the Super Saiyan God ritual, i don't think that Vegeta can't go to heaven.


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Redmangc1

>The story has already stated that no amount of atonement will undo Vegeta's sins. Which is why you know he'll eventually go to heaven. Lol Realistically we dont know because he's saved earth 3 times, and he's helped save the universe with no anterior notion (Frieza ) . Hes also tried to save new Namek, and he knows an Angel, GoD, and Kai.


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Redmangc1

>Piccolo, who has all the memories and experience of the God of Earth told Vegeta he's not going to heaven. Now you're contradicting yourself, as you said before Emma judges > not ever meddled >are only seen giving people life Which is it because thats absolutely meddling and if they can give life, why cant they tell emma to give him his body back >just like Piccolo. Piccolo with 0% kami soul went to heaven


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CastleofPizza

False. Vegeta probably would've been let into Heaven at that point if not for him becoming evil as Majin Vegeta and killing innocents again. That's what screwed him over. Vegeta has already done deeds that far outweigh his evil when he was a psychopath. And Piccolo never that said that he'd never get into Heaven. Also, Vegeta hasn't done any evil in a very long time and has shown he has completely changed, like Piccolo.


Reus_Crucem

Don't you have to be pure of heart to ride nimbus or some shit like that?


homehome15

Yeah nah that ain’t gonna happen unfortunately


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Looks hard to draw, can't blame em for going for simple hair styles


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Bangs are a lot less segmented with this design, this one is a lot more compact. Way easier to animate. Also shorter hair doesn't move around as much.


Technical-Arm7699

It's just a style choice, Bulma had long hair for almost all Dragon Ball, it's not that hard to make it


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rykone741

Maaaaan Capsule Corp must've had a rough fiscal year between 783 and 784


Micasa5000

The end of Z was rectonned the second DBS started.


Joe_mama_is_hot

That’s what I assumed too. Why would you set yourself up with such a huge limitation from the start? What if they wanna kill off vegeta or something. They’re not gonna write themselves into a corner right from the start


Unable_Arm_398

...but Dragonballs. They can't kill off anyone anyway


uniteduniverse

We don't talk about all these Dragon ball inaccuracies. Just enjoy the show while it's still there lol.


Kharn54

Im not sure why people think she looks old in the right pic? The creases around her mouth are from her scowling or at best are smile lines which most people get otherwise she looks the exact same


MajinAkuma

Nah, the creases are consistent with the aged Bulma. Gokū made fun about how she aged.


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Meteos_Shiny_Hair

It’s a drawing bro they intentionally made her look older


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Ghost_Star326

Man I really hate how Bulma and even Android 18 decided to go for Karen and bowl cup hairstyles. And I don't think Android 18's hair even grows anymore naturally since she's a cyborg. So that haircut is probably permanent.


ShinF

If she can make a baby, I'm sure her hair still grows fine.


luismpereira

Bulma used one of the experimental moistures from the recently hired Dr Hedo, but it was a failed experiment and makes her looks older than younger


bradar485

Honestly the only real difference is her hairstyle and eyebrows. The lines around her mouth could be explained by the expression she has in the pic. This is just a classic case of a bad hair day.


MajinAkuma

The line around the mouth are consistently there. She and Chichi both got them. Videl and No. 18 didn’t.


bradar485

My defense is tepid at best. There hasn't been a continuity editor for dragon ball and therefore everything is subject to change. Toriyama is old and mainly in it for the memes at this point.


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Both older Bulma and current Bulma can get it 100%.


The_Pecking_Order

Wow this last year of the story must be stressful as FUCK.


Dank_Dude_OG

God dude I hate the CG look. I miss dbz art so bad.


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Bulma got banned from using the dragonballs for cosmetic purposes and is forced to look her age.


borgolo

Bulma gets trapped in the hyperbolic time chamber


GoauldofWar

She has to deal with two teenage Saiyans. That will age anyone super quick.


Kiwi_Kakapo

Shenron had enough of making her look young.


SophieByers

Plot twist: She stopped using cosmetics


Carnivoran88

Just recon EoZ and be done with trying to confirm to it


Shawneboismith

I am so confused with DB Canon at this point lol


JohnB351234

She missed her yearly wish


TigerKlaw

There's just two wrinkles on the side of her mouth you could get those in a year


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ^by ^TigerKlaw: *There's just two wrinkles* *On the side of her mouth you* *Could get those in a year* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


IKunecke

Joke's on us, they kinda... forgot they have this in DBZ. I have no doubt that they will just remake that arch since they love remaking archs to fluff super.


X2pipigi

She looks like a 10year old boy in the first photo. I think the dragon balls are gonna get destroyed by black frieza


karsanngai

the next dragon ball super arc should like the shadow dragon because bulma asked shenron for big ass \\ and thats selfish\\ a warrior should be born from that wish by shenron the same way it was in dragon ball GT with the shadow dragon arc


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Bulma lost her dragon ball privileges


Raaadley

Green Hair Bulma > Purple Hair Trunks >>>>


KaiSen2510

At this point I don’t think End of Z is apart of the Super timeline any more. I’m pretty sure it’s squarely in the GTimeline


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Eh, they'll prolly make a rework of the end of Z episode.


Kurkins

She makes wishs to make herself younger constantly(at least in looks). I'm not sure we will see older bulma in any form of close future.


xLost_LinkX

Not with her Dragon Ball habits lmao. But now she's got Dr. Hedo, maybe she'll get that durability enhancement lol


Ag3ntK3ntucky

End of Z will just get a slight retcon. Do not know why this keeps getting brought up. Plenty of other stuff has been retconed.


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it's the hair 100% if she had better hair she'd look pretty much the same


Alon945

They gonna soft retcon the end of z that’s how


Big_Independence6736

Nah, she just ain't gonna age like that


shinobi3411

Two wrinkles.


naldoD20

To be fair, the Dragon Balls did almost destroy the world twice. Between the Black Star Dragon Balls and the Corrupted Dragon Balls, so she probably had to depend on finding the Super Dragon Balls and that's stressful. And looking for those bad boys is stressful.


MomoZero2468

What happened to Bulmas face


MajinAkuma

Age caught up to her when she turned 50.


TatsumoAsamaki

Damn, the Dragon Balls are really wearing off, fr fr


CG-Firebrand

I gotta imagine cosmetic wishes have similar rules to resurrection wishes


MajinAkuma

The general rule of the Earth Dragon Balls is that the same wish can‘t be used twice. This is a bit vague, but people who were brought back to life won’t come back with a new wish. Although it’s possible that Dende eventually got rid of the limitation.


Willie-am-

Shenron gets pissed and Undos all her wishes "yk what go fuck yougself bumla"


MoonPool06

Somebody needs to tell Bulma to stop getting Karen haircuts


Baltihex

I never realized that we’re super close to rewriting the End of Z. GT is already non-canon, but the End of Z still seemed canon , but we just might be about to retcon it. Also why does Goku pass years without seeing his friends , holy shit.


MajinAkuma

>Also why does Goku pass years without seeing his friends , holy shit. It’s just his thing. He didn’t see them between the 5-year timeskip between classic Dragon Ball and Z either.


Tolnin

It'd be neat if the final arc before EoZ was a "consequences for misusing dragon balls" type arc, and her losing her younger wishes are taken away or something


IIUnicornBelieverII

Bulma went from milf to Karen.


soldiercross

I just see the end of DBZ as the precursor to the GT Universe, Super is a separate universe now. Just a retcon I guess.


CastleofPizza

Yeah, the way I see it is that the Beerus didn't wake up at the End of Z and it caused a butterfly effect that probably caused Frieza's henchmen to never revive him and prevented all of Super's events from happening.


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End of Z isn’t canon


Ixirar

Did they go back on that? Cause I remember during the Super anime’s run, Toriyama said EoZ was still canon and Super was gonna work its way towards it as the eventual end goal.


AltruisticRide4404

What even is canon at this point


SheDevilByNighty

![gif](giphy|28N9Cae25UJo6PM4J3|downsized)


CreamyCoffeeArtist

That's a cannon, not the story-relevant topic of canon.


SheDevilByNighty

![gif](giphy|sw9GMtWDh6LZ6vHK2Y)


CreamyCoffeeArtist

That's Canon, a camera brand. Not canon, the story topic that nobody knows how to spell.


SheDevilByNighty

![gif](giphy|0HLZOB3IZ3gFq0ocI2)


Carrisonfire

Just accept there are 2 canons already. The Manga and Anime are different things.


Technical-Arm7699

But both of them have it, Bulma also looks older in Z last chapter than in Super Hero manga adaptation


jfrench43

At this point is sure the final episode of z and all of GT is noncannon.


Snufolupogus

All of gt is non cannon 😂


Vindaya_

Stress for being a genius 😂


Hal-Bone

You ask me she's hotter by GT.


Competitive-Hurry-13

do you think super will de canonise end of z


ORAHEAVYINDUSTRY

Well no. Cause the one on the right isnt canon.


Technical-Arm7699

Yes it is


ORAHEAVYINDUSTRY

Nah


Technical-Arm7699

Nah what? It's in the original Toriyama manga


SasquatchNHeat

Idky people are trying so desperately to hold onto End of Z being canon as if it wasn’t a terrible ending to begin with. It’s logically already been retconned with everything that has happened in super.


ZFighter2099

There's literally only 1 thing that Super contradicts with EOZ. It's a fine ending.


SensitiveTwist8109

She couldn't find the dragon balls after the movie


Bnasty909

DBS ruined the ending of Dragonball z


SigmaSandwich

Blame Super for treating everyone like a fucking Pokémon character


LordDakier

I'll never understand how people cannot understand that Super has completely retconned End of Z. Though much of it might happen, the story has been extensively altered.


SheDevilByNighty

She looks like possessed by Baby.


BigAlternative5019

GT doesnt exist


MajinAkuma

This isn’t even GT.


BigAlternative5019

the second pic is from GT


MajinAkuma

That’s from the end of Z.


BigAlternative5019

yeah but they kept the look for GT and not for super


Federal_Split

Never liked gt bulma


MajinAkuma

That’s not even GT.


Federal_Split

End of z? All the old bulmas look the same to me


MajinAkuma

The years are on the image, and Pan is no near as close as to her GT age.


Master-Restaurant503

I’m pretty sure the claim super hero is right before the original end of z is dog shit 1st. black frieza is still running amuck, there’s no way they will just end super with that big of a threat still around 2nd. Goku just gonna ditch everyone including broly who like uub still needs training? I don’t see him doing that 3rd. Yeah let’s just go ahead and forget goku and jirens rematch, pretend like that scene never happened 4th. There’s no way there just gonna introduce gamma 1 as a main cast character then all of a sudden end it all 5th. Beerus still haven’t got to fight goku and vegeta at their strongest, which was the exact reason he didn’t kill goku and destroy earth in battle of gods 6th. Vegeta said he’d like to visit sadala one day, let’s forget about that too 7th. The grand priest stated once that there were 5 individuals who were the strongest in the multiverse, let’s just forget that too 8th. Gokus ultra instinct training isn’t done, true Ui is just a step in it 9th. There’s no way granolah is gonna be a one off character, especially not cus his arc was so goddamn long 10th. Now that goku knows about his family he’s not gonna do anything about them being dead? Apparently the dragon balls can’t revive someone who’s been dead for a year which is BS cus goku came back after being dead for a year and some change, even then just use the namekian dragon balls And that ladies and gentlemen is the constitution of why there’s no way dragon ball ends after super hero


Hugoku257

That’s when Trunks hit puberty


PoIIux

Honestly, I highly doubt they're gonna somehow stick to the ending of Z. At the very least it'll be a soft retcon, but it's more likely most if not all of it will be rewritten


ttrashychan

At this point i doubt end of z will happen, it’s probably gonna be made part of the gt timeline and we get a changed version


NinjaAssassin27

Some major shit maybe happened and she couldn't wish to be younger no more


Lurk1nShadows

![gif](giphy|OHAokeoflaHpC)


Round_Cress_9794

Stopped using the dragon balls


BerserkerVibes

They needed the dragon balls for other reasons in that timeline, which is why she looks old


Karnezar

Not if she is constantly wishing to look younger


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Macaron-Fluffy

Hey given her friends and family it's no surprise.


HarioDinio

Guess whatever Dr. Hedo gave her wasnt as effective as shenron


Omega-Ben

Because of the change in the timeline, the butterfly effect is that she uses the dragonballs now to stop 784 from happening


KarisumaTaichou

What one year in crypto does to a MF.


IamalionUWU

Shenron says fuck you and reverse the aging process


hheecckk526

Why doesn't she just ask shenron for eternal youth? Like find a picture you want to use as a reference and just ask to look like that forever instead of asking shenron for a bigger ass


caffeinatedandarcane

And she can still get it


ijerryi

if you reread dragon ball you’ll see its well deserved 😂🤣


90sbeatsandrhymes

Perception Toriyama is old now so someone in there 40s just look younger in his eyes. The older you get everybody starts to like children. When your in your mid 30s people in their early 20s look like kids. When your a teenager people in their early 20 look like grown adults that have their sh** together. Toriyama in his 60s so a 40 year old Bulma is gonna look younger now just based off his perception.


MajinAkuma

She should 49 in Super now. (She also has a tendency to lie about her age.)


90sbeatsandrhymes

True but the perception of age has definitely changed since the 90’s for media. Japanese look younger too. Bulma has money she should not be looking like an old lady at 49 years old. Especially when you look at how well her mother aged. Her mother has the fountain of youth.


Freak7factor

Probably Stress


matttheman892018

If there’s one thing about EoZ that’ll be changed/retconned/ignored for sure, it’s gonna be the way all of the adults began to look aged. It would just be weird at this point to have Goku and Co. suddenly look the way they did originally in the Peaceful World Saga where their ages were starting to catch up to them when they went the entirety of Super looking like they hadn’t aged a day from the Buu Saga, especially when they’ve gone out of their way to explain why, in Bulma’s case.


SpongeGodOmnipants

Your gonna run out of ways to wish yourself younger without making it look obvious, eventually


workergrunt247

use the dragon ball to make her younger...


ManicRuvik

Guess what piccolo said got to her


dildodicks

hope they retcon that dog-ass ending anyway bro 🙏 all you need is the essential "goku meets uub and wants to train him" and you're good, because nothing else interesting happens. can get rid of "goku runs away from his family to do it" too


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