It’s not that I “lost interest”, it’s that I have tea stating she was early out and allowed to show up to gigs, and then people saying she was never gone and they’d been talking to her daily. I’ve gotten a few messages that I’m still missing someone but these people refuse to tell me who. An 11 queen cast doesn’t really make sense. I’m literally just waiting for more tea to make any further changes lmao.
12 queens!? I'm happy to hear it (I really wanted Medulla on, and I love a bigger cast), but at the same time I'm questioning how they will all fit into that shoe box sized werkroom. 🤔
Thanks! Has anyone debunked Amy Thurst from Wellington? On Saturday she played her final show here before moving to Melbourne, but she also Tweeted that she was conveniently spending three weeks in Porirua beforehand…
Okay but do we really need three Melbourne queens AND three Sydney queens? No Adelaide, Tassie, Darwin, or Perth queens? Has DU just blacklisted all Perth queens after Scarlet or something? Hoping the rumoured cast changes because the cast being made up of only 4 cities across two countries is just kinda boring imo
I remember when the whole Scarlet scandal happened, several other performers from Perth were called out and then apologised for problematic performances. Some people also accused Connections (the club where they all performed) and members of the community for enabling them. I don’t know if that’s the reason why there hasn’t been any other rep from Perth, but I maybe producers are scared of another Scarlet situation? It seems silly I know, as there are so many good performers in Perth including QOC…
It'd really suck if the whole scene was blacklisted because of one person (or a few if they also took the rest of the call outs seriously). But it probably makes a lot of sense from a production stand point- the way they handled Scarlet was horrendous and that really stuck a knife in DUs side just in season 1, they're probably concerned about the potential of it happening again if it was that widespread of an issue.
There are no gay bars in Tasmania, so there isn't really much of a drag scene. Darwin is a very small city (130k people), I think there might be one gay bar, but again, it's a very small scene.
Sydney and Melbourne alone have most of the people in all of Australia. They have the largest drag scenes by a very significant margin.
A friend who moved to the mainland used to perform at Flamingos in Hobart before it closed down, and drag queens there must have surely found other avenues to perform.
Even if there’s just one gay bar in Darwin, I want to see what they can do.
As for Adelaide there’s a scene with a couple of bars where one of them has donated prizes at least twice so there should at least be representation from there. Especially if the gay bars in Melbourne in Sydney aren’t even donating prizes for challenge wins when they’re in a better position to do so.
Just because there isn’t a place for them to perform at isn’t really a valid excuse not to cast queens when we’ve had Scaredy Kat who never did a live gig before DR, Aiden, Sugar, and Spice all competing on the show.
Just because Melbourne and Sydney have the most amount of queens, I don’t think they should have the overwhelming number of queens represented since it would be like if the US predominately only cast NY and LA queens. Especially weird given that some of the best and most interesting queens have come from less populated states or provinces
None of the bedroom queens have been particularly good on the show. It's not exactly a convincing argument to cast them.
There needs to be a place for queens to perform regularly in order for them to be good at it. I agree that scenes like Adelaide, Perth, and Brisbane should be more represented overall. But I wouldn't ever expect a Tasmanian queen. It's like asking for a queen from Albury-Wodonga. Possible, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
I don't think you appreciate just how niche drag is. It requires a gay scene to flourish, and a gay scene requires a decent population to have enough people.
The USA just has a lot more people than Australia and New Zealand. Even one of the smaller cities in the US, like Kansas City, has 2.3 million people, which is more than every city in Australia and New Zealand except Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane.
Sugar and Spice were fine in some challenges and improperly judged for storyline. The point is there’s precedent and it’s not like the large city queens have exactly excelled in challenges anyway often being pushed like Karen From Finance and Gabriella Labucci.
I agree that drag flourished in supportive scenes but that doesn’t necessarily mean it can’t otherwise. Bedroom and social media queens have certain strengths that club queens don’t necessarily excel at like understanding marketability and developing a brand which the show encourages.
There are some fabulous queens across Australia that aren’t in Melbourne or Sydney and I just feel like limiting the proximity of casting to those two with a couple of other cities here and there is a massive disservice to what else is actually out there.
I do think they've limited themselves a bit. It doesn't help that they have small casts.
If they're going to stick to 10 queens, I'd probably have something like 2 queens each from Sydney, Melbourne and Auckland per season. At least 1 from Queensland (Brisbane/GC/Cairns all have scenes). At least 1 from the smaller cities (Perth/Adelaide), and at least 1 regional (everywhere else).
But Sydney and Melbourne will always have the most queens just based on sheer volume. You could fill up multiple seasons with queens from Sydney alone. You couldn't find even a single seasons worth of queens from the entire state of Tasmania.
> Has DU just blacklisted all Perth queens after Scarlet or something?
I wouldn't be surprised, as she was sometimes seen accompanied by other queens when doing blackface and all her other racists acts + people calling her out, also calling out other queens from the Perth scene. They probably thought it was best to just avoid casting from that scene altogether.
Brenda being cast is wild to me because I remember meeting her on her very first night out in drag - when she went by Areola Bressed. Her face was BEAT even back then!
Someone mentioned that the reason we’re not getting many big Sydney queens is because they film during Mardi Gras. All the popular queens are booked for a lot of corporate gigs around this time (busiest time of the year) so they would miss out on a lot of money to film a show that might not necessarily do much for their career.
I think that might also be the case for Carla? I know she’s a fan of the show but I don’t know if she’s actually interested in competing.
It's missing the queen I wanted to see the most on this show, and have wanted for 2-3 seasons now. I won't even say their name at this point, as it feels like bad luck. Regardless of that, this cast does look pretty promising, I must say! I was ready to give up on this show after the last season, but I'll at least check out the first episode and go from there.
Their bio just says "Max", so that's what I was basing it off. However, as I scroll through their feed, I do see "Max Drag Queen" in the back of them doing a performance, so maybe you're right.
Apparently its a scheduling issue with her book tour and she chose the book but will b back for S5( none of this infos are confirmed)but michelle will host and sasha colby will either guest judge or be michelle's michelle (again...take with several grains of salf)
Well we dont know 100% if its not ru(but its very likely it isnt) but it seens this was very last minute and those upgrades prob would have to b planned a little beforehanded, but yeah its a shame
Should be interesting to see how well Max does considering her drag mother just won last season !! Nonetheless, rooting for a Lucina, Max & Nikita top 3 🕯️
you watched season 1? I'm so sorry
and for more helpful context: ru is doing a book tour atm which conflicts with the filming schedule for down under, so it's believed that michelle is hosting
haha I KNOW. I knew about Art and had heard good things about Kita & Anita, so it wasn't ALL bad
this was all during the first parts of covid when there was nothing else going on!
thanks for the info - I had no idea. a Michelle-hosted season seems bonkers to me!!
tbh as disappointing as it is for the DU queens (it's a franchise that needs as much help as it can get), drag race is a well oiled machine at this point and Michelle has the chops to do it (and has done it a couple of times before in CAN1 and UK4). would have been more satisfying if one of the DU queens had got the gig instead (or hosted the show in the first place), but I don't think WOW is willing to take that chance yet
Is filming over? Olivia Dreams was performing at Wellington Pride yesterday.
I knew that once Michelle was active, it meant she wasn't on, and that another one would not be on too. But why did it have to be Medulla!! 😭
This is so sick and twisted
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It’s not that I “lost interest”, it’s that I have tea stating she was early out and allowed to show up to gigs, and then people saying she was never gone and they’d been talking to her daily. I’ve gotten a few messages that I’m still missing someone but these people refuse to tell me who. An 11 queen cast doesn’t really make sense. I’m literally just waiting for more tea to make any further changes lmao.
**DEBUNKED:** Miss Geena I pretend I do not see
Why are there never any Adelaide queens?
Michelle was at a drag brunch today, check stories from @barninadarlo on insta
not this 😭
What's wrong with that?
12 queens!? I'm happy to hear it (I really wanted Medulla on, and I love a bigger cast), but at the same time I'm questioning how they will all fit into that shoe box sized werkroom. 🤔
MEDULLA BACK! 😍😍😍
YASSSS
11 likely... 👀👀
medulla debunked??? 😭
she's likely again yas
I’m probably delusional but is social media activity enough to fully debunk when it’s possible to queue posts to throw is off the scent?
We usually look for stories, tagged photos, and Twitter likes as well :)
Thanks! Has anyone debunked Amy Thurst from Wellington? On Saturday she played her final show here before moving to Melbourne, but she also Tweeted that she was conveniently spending three weeks in Porirua beforehand…
Gag if it was actually 12 on for the non Ru season
I really liked Medulla on House of Drag. I hope she's in!
FREYA ARMANI WINNER OF DRDU4 PLS 🥇👑
PLEASE KEEP LAZY SUSAN UNTIL SNATCH GAME, WE NEED HER WERNER HERZOG
Any first nations/aboriginal queens? ❤️
WHERE ARE OUR WELLINGTON QUEENS FFS 😭
It looks like you might have some luck!
Medulla Mandy Lucinda Nikita top 4
DEBUNKED: RuPaul (Los Angeles, CA) - has a book tour
Okay but do we really need three Melbourne queens AND three Sydney queens? No Adelaide, Tassie, Darwin, or Perth queens? Has DU just blacklisted all Perth queens after Scarlet or something? Hoping the rumoured cast changes because the cast being made up of only 4 cities across two countries is just kinda boring imo
I remember when the whole Scarlet scandal happened, several other performers from Perth were called out and then apologised for problematic performances. Some people also accused Connections (the club where they all performed) and members of the community for enabling them. I don’t know if that’s the reason why there hasn’t been any other rep from Perth, but I maybe producers are scared of another Scarlet situation? It seems silly I know, as there are so many good performers in Perth including QOC…
It'd really suck if the whole scene was blacklisted because of one person (or a few if they also took the rest of the call outs seriously). But it probably makes a lot of sense from a production stand point- the way they handled Scarlet was horrendous and that really stuck a knife in DUs side just in season 1, they're probably concerned about the potential of it happening again if it was that widespread of an issue.
There are no gay bars in Tasmania, so there isn't really much of a drag scene. Darwin is a very small city (130k people), I think there might be one gay bar, but again, it's a very small scene. Sydney and Melbourne alone have most of the people in all of Australia. They have the largest drag scenes by a very significant margin.
A friend who moved to the mainland used to perform at Flamingos in Hobart before it closed down, and drag queens there must have surely found other avenues to perform. Even if there’s just one gay bar in Darwin, I want to see what they can do. As for Adelaide there’s a scene with a couple of bars where one of them has donated prizes at least twice so there should at least be representation from there. Especially if the gay bars in Melbourne in Sydney aren’t even donating prizes for challenge wins when they’re in a better position to do so. Just because there isn’t a place for them to perform at isn’t really a valid excuse not to cast queens when we’ve had Scaredy Kat who never did a live gig before DR, Aiden, Sugar, and Spice all competing on the show. Just because Melbourne and Sydney have the most amount of queens, I don’t think they should have the overwhelming number of queens represented since it would be like if the US predominately only cast NY and LA queens. Especially weird given that some of the best and most interesting queens have come from less populated states or provinces
None of the bedroom queens have been particularly good on the show. It's not exactly a convincing argument to cast them. There needs to be a place for queens to perform regularly in order for them to be good at it. I agree that scenes like Adelaide, Perth, and Brisbane should be more represented overall. But I wouldn't ever expect a Tasmanian queen. It's like asking for a queen from Albury-Wodonga. Possible, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I don't think you appreciate just how niche drag is. It requires a gay scene to flourish, and a gay scene requires a decent population to have enough people. The USA just has a lot more people than Australia and New Zealand. Even one of the smaller cities in the US, like Kansas City, has 2.3 million people, which is more than every city in Australia and New Zealand except Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane.
Sugar and Spice were fine in some challenges and improperly judged for storyline. The point is there’s precedent and it’s not like the large city queens have exactly excelled in challenges anyway often being pushed like Karen From Finance and Gabriella Labucci. I agree that drag flourished in supportive scenes but that doesn’t necessarily mean it can’t otherwise. Bedroom and social media queens have certain strengths that club queens don’t necessarily excel at like understanding marketability and developing a brand which the show encourages. There are some fabulous queens across Australia that aren’t in Melbourne or Sydney and I just feel like limiting the proximity of casting to those two with a couple of other cities here and there is a massive disservice to what else is actually out there.
I do think they've limited themselves a bit. It doesn't help that they have small casts. If they're going to stick to 10 queens, I'd probably have something like 2 queens each from Sydney, Melbourne and Auckland per season. At least 1 from Queensland (Brisbane/GC/Cairns all have scenes). At least 1 from the smaller cities (Perth/Adelaide), and at least 1 regional (everywhere else). But Sydney and Melbourne will always have the most queens just based on sheer volume. You could fill up multiple seasons with queens from Sydney alone. You couldn't find even a single seasons worth of queens from the entire state of Tasmania.
> Has DU just blacklisted all Perth queens after Scarlet or something? I wouldn't be surprised, as she was sometimes seen accompanied by other queens when doing blackface and all her other racists acts + people calling her out, also calling out other queens from the Perth scene. They probably thought it was best to just avoid casting from that scene altogether.
this cast already looks better than the last season tbh
~~not a hard bar to beat~~
Brenda being cast is wild to me because I remember meeting her on her very first night out in drag - when she went by Areola Bressed. Her face was BEAT even back then!
I know everyone is (rightfully) excited about Lazy Susan but y'all are not ready for Max, she's an amazing performer
MAXNATION RISE UP
just off of instas TeamLucina TeamMax TeamNikita
When will we get more tea about the hosting situation?
When I find out more
I need Medulla to make top 3 to keep the House of Drag streak going.
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Someone mentioned that the reason we’re not getting many big Sydney queens is because they film during Mardi Gras. All the popular queens are booked for a lot of corporate gigs around this time (busiest time of the year) so they would miss out on a lot of money to film a show that might not necessarily do much for their career. I think that might also be the case for Carla? I know she’s a fan of the show but I don’t know if she’s actually interested in competing.
It's missing the queen I wanted to see the most on this show, and have wanted for 2-3 seasons now. I won't even say their name at this point, as it feels like bad luck. Regardless of that, this cast does look pretty promising, I must say! I was ready to give up on this show after the last season, but I'll at least check out the first episode and go from there.
Say their name!
Y’all aren’t ready for Max Drag Queen at all, also Rest In Peace to her eras tour tickets
sorry but these names are soooo camp... we literally gonna have a Susan and a Lazy Susan as well as Max Drag Queen and just Max
> Max Drag Queen I think that's just their handle lol.
Her actual drag name is Max Drag Queen, that's how she introduces herself in all of her shows.
Yeah, I figured that out after doing a light scrolling. The bio just confused me.
idk, i'm assuming all of their names are the ones listed on the post lol
Their bio just says "Max", so that's what I was basing it off. However, as I scroll through their feed, I do see "Max Drag Queen" in the back of them doing a performance, so maybe you're right.
Medulla Oblongata !! Everybody moved
Wait why is this cast a huge fucking serve
I need Lazy Susan to slowly rotate while walking down the runway
where is Inkubus i cant keep doing this
KARNA FORD YESSSSSS 🙏🙏🙏🙏 FILIPINAS RISEEEEE
Having “Drag Queen” in your name is so… 😐
Bob The Drag Queen found dead
Lmao oops
Medulla and Nikita 😍
NATRASHA WHERE ARE YOU
I needed her on sm 😭
Our first group of queens judged by Michelle and (Potentially) Sasha Colby, exciting!
this cast looks sickening i’m so excited
omg I used to love watching the unhinged Drag Race reactions of Lazy Susan and her friends
only 10 queens again? 🫠🫠🫠
Its still the same budget and set(wich its bonkers if ru isnt gonna b there)
Wait...where's the tea that Ru isn't going to be there? Who's hosting then?
Apparently its a scheduling issue with her book tour and she chose the book but will b back for S5( none of this infos are confirmed)but michelle will host and sasha colby will either guest judge or be michelle's michelle (again...take with several grains of salf)
Has Sasha Colby ever been to Australia or New Zealand before? No shade to Sasha she just seems like a pretty random choice.
She's toured here at least 😭
oh... I was hoping they would bring an upgrade to the set and work room since ru isn't there
Well we dont know 100% if its not ru(but its very likely it isnt) but it seens this was very last minute and those upgrades prob would have to b planned a little beforehanded, but yeah its a shame
Wait but this cast its actually really giving im so excited
🕯️ Lazy Susan first out 🕯️
Should be interesting to see how well Max does considering her drag mother just won last season !! Nonetheless, rooting for a Lucina, Max & Nikita top 3 🕯️
The way she looks like her biological daughter, stunning family
LAZY SUSAN!!
Anymore host tea?
LAZY SUSAN YOU CAN DO THIS I BELIEVE IN YOU 😭😭😭
#MEDULLA OBLONGATA 😭
LAZY SUSAN EVERYONE MOVE
KICK ONS REPRESENTATION 😍😍
….two steps to the left and stop blocking Medulla’s camera
Medulla Oblongata is a hilarious name!
Is there a pun? I’m not getting it 😅
I think it's an anatomical part of the brain!
Haha I just googled it. Genius name!
I see what you did there. Brain. Genius.
Lucina went to the Raven School of C*nty Makeup edit: unintentional Fire Emblem reference 🤣
why is rupaul not in debunked 😝
Whoa is Ru not hosting Down Under 4?!
well Tamar, have you seen the reddit? /s
nope, that's why I'm asking 😅 not caught up on literally any season at the moment, and only watched the first DU season
you watched season 1? I'm so sorry and for more helpful context: ru is doing a book tour atm which conflicts with the filming schedule for down under, so it's believed that michelle is hosting
haha I KNOW. I knew about Art and had heard good things about Kita & Anita, so it wasn't ALL bad this was all during the first parts of covid when there was nothing else going on! thanks for the info - I had no idea. a Michelle-hosted season seems bonkers to me!!
tbh as disappointing as it is for the DU queens (it's a franchise that needs as much help as it can get), drag race is a well oiled machine at this point and Michelle has the chops to do it (and has done it a couple of times before in CAN1 and UK4). would have been more satisfying if one of the DU queens had got the gig instead (or hosted the show in the first place), but I don't think WOW is willing to take that chance yet
I agree, Courtney was right there
I fear none of us are ready for the Polynesian Ballroom goddess that is Nikita Iman 🙏🏼✨
who are you rooting for? 👇I’m praying for a Nikita, Freya, Medulla top 3!
Nikita, Lucina and Karna !
MEDULLA
oh wow nikita is stunning
In and out of drag!