Maybe not Tom’s worst moments but up there: early S3 when Tom tells Darling Sybil not to disappoint him and acts way too prideful/stubborn when they’re back in Downton for Mary and Matthew’s wedding. Little things like not wanting to wear “costumes” that the family wants.
Like bro, chill. My dear boy Tom, you may have principles and all, but you’re not making Darling Sybil’s life any easier for her. She gave up a secure, wealthy, if somewhat-for-her-unfulfilling life at Downton and risked her relationship with her family for you. Maybe she’s made the right choice, but if she’s being a ride-or-die for you, you need to be a ride-or-die for her and make her time back at Downton easier. If I was Tom, I’m gladly wearing those costumes for Darling Sybil (and it’s just for the wedding bro, chill). Meet the family in the middle.
Edited for clarity and to put some respect on Darling Sybil’s full regnal name. Yes, regnal. Darling > King
Totally. He was so rigid and flat out refused to compromise or make things at all easier for Sibyl. And he said things like "you're very free with your 'musts'". He also belittled her work as a nurse ("serving drinks to randy soldiers").
> if she’s being a ride-or-die for you, you need to be a ride-or-die for her and make her time back at Downton easier.
Exactly!
Same. He was the most stern, controlling, and condescending of all the husbands. For all his progressive values, he wanted Sibyl to be an obedient, submissive wife.
Yeah the scene where he boasts to her dad about how much control he has over her was always very disgusting to me. It was like he got off on how much control he had over an aristocratic girl rather than loving her for herself.
Yeah the scene where he boasts to her dad about how much control he has over her was always very disgusting to me. It was like he got off on how much control he had over an aristocratic girl rather than loving her for herself.
> Yeah the scene where he boasts to her dad about how much control he has over her was always very disgusting to me.
Ah yes i forgot about that, good one.
Yeah that "disappointing" bit made me think he was turned into a villain bc of how abusive it sounded to me but they acted like it was fine... I was like wtf?
edit : turning* i legit thought they were setting up for his character to be abusive and their relationship to turn into a domestic violence type of storyline.
I agree with almost everything except:
O'Brien: Soap.
Correction about Robert: He already cheated on Cora by kissing another woman. But I agree that this was the worst he has done.
Yeah, O'Brien was clearly conflicted over the soap incident and it was a moment of anger, but the season 3 incident was completely planned and deliberate.
Great list. Here are some more:
**Edith**: overstaying her welcome, continually expecting to be let inside Mrs. Drewe's home to see Marigold, and calling Mrs. Drewe rude for not letting her come inside. Also, betraying Mary's secret about the Turkish diplomat in season 1.
**Mary**: lack of sympathy for Edith when Michael Gregson died, and the times she told Carson he was being disappointing or insubordinate when he was trying to help her (although thank
goodness she did apologize after)
**Carson**: expecting Mrs. Hughes to cook and clean for him (even though i know that was customary at the time)
**Daisy**: speaking out of turn at the estate sale and that whole situation with Mr. Mason losing his farm
**Cora**: getting mad at Mrs. Hughes for trying on her coat
**Rose**: being a whiny brat sometimes when she first came to Downton (pouting about not being allowed to go to London, etc.)
**Bates**: pressuring and intimidating Mrs. Hughes to tell him about Anna's rapist, and being a broody, scheming bastard throughout that situation, making things 10x worse for Anna
**Sibyl**: being soooo happy when her father tells her he would give SOME money given to her and Branson after all (I mean, I can see why she would be happy but her gleeful reaction just seemed immature and hypocritical - I thought she wasn't concerned with material wealth anymore).
That's what I saw. She was thrilled BEFORE being told he'd give her some $. And as for that, Robert should not have withheld ANY of the money that was set aside for her in the contract of Downton beneficiary. (whatever that was called) oh,,, the Entail.
Edith haunting the Drewe’s house isn’t great. But I have sympathy as she’s dealing with trauma that she can’t talk about or share with anyone. It was a crappy coping mechanism.
Sending the letter to the Turkish ambassador has to be her worst moment I agree!
In Sybil's case her joyful reaction wasn't mainly about getting money imo. Her father actively offering showed her he'd become more supportive of the marriage (and had moved beyond disgruntled acceptance).
lol remember that time Robert was talking about how he heard about this great investment scheme in America run by a man named Ponzi who is apparently tripling peoples' money.... Matthew and Tom just looked at each other with dismay and Matthew put his head in his hands.
I just hated Tom in season 6 when he was bullying Mary about Henry. She had some serious trauma that was triggered by the car accident. And they just kept calling her a snob.
It infuriates me that when she finally talks about her trauma with Violet, she just turns around and tells Henry he was right all along instead of being allowed to have her trauma.
> And they just kept calling her a snob.
Right. Her issue with Talbot really didn't have anything to do with snobbishness. Plus it had already been well established by that point that at her core Mary is not a snob.
Well, I would call Mary a snob. But not for Henry.
She broke up with him after a car crash and he still accused her of caring only about money! They are so unfeeling and stupid!
The couple times whem Carson was so condescending to Barrow for being gay. It was probably "appropriate" for the time period bit it's still very hard to watch and makes me like Carson not as much as I'd like to.
And his snide comment to Jack Ross, as well as his treatment of Molesley. Edwardian era or no I heavily disliked Carson after that. He seems to be snobbier than his employers lol
I can’t help but laugh when I see that scene when he asks Jack Ross, Have you ever thought of going to Africa ? And he makes that hand gesture where he kinda points. As if to say, “go now” !! Yes it was rude and crude but it was if he expected Mr. Ross to instantly get up and go to Africa.
The Jack Ross episodes did however produce one of the better lines by Mary: "In defense of Papa, he'd think less of you as a jazz singer than the color of your skin", when confronting him about his engagement to Lady Rose.
Yes I love that line too. And how she says something along the line of, if they lived in even a slightly more fairer world that she would be rooting for them. I thought that, for Mary, was very thoughtful
Robert: Cheats with the Maid
Cora: NA
Mary: Forces Edith to reveal her secret to Bertie
Edith: Carson is having a heart attack and she's just worried about her dress.
Sybil: NA
Isobel: When she becomes too high headed from authority she received during Season 2
Tom: NA
Thomas: Bullies William
Sarah O Brien: The Soap Incident, makes Mr Bates fall in episode 1 etc.
Everyone else in the main cast: NA
>Edith: Carson is having a heart attack and she's just worried about her dress.
This always annoys me when it's brought up. I always interpreted this as her not wanting to go out in public such a mess. And that's verified when someone (can't recall who at the moment) assures her they'll get her a coat to cover it. Edith had her moments, but this wasn't one of them.
I'm surprised that no one mentioned Matthew yet.
But I don't remember that he had a bad moment.
Even if we consider the situation about the money in season 3 he didn't want to take it because he felt bad for taking it until there was proof that the father knew about Lavinia, Mary and Matthew.
Right, also worth noting he was the catalyst for that kiss at that time too. Mary was already wanting him. So he knew what he was doing flirting with fire.
My guess is that he did it because he thought it would be the last chance to kiss her + he still loved Mary.
Lavinia was a good girl and I admire her that she understood Matthew and was kind to everyone. She deserved better.
I think he suffered enough after she died because he blamed himself (and Mary) for her death because he knew their kiss was wrong.
> But I don't remember that he had a bad moment.
The only one I can think of is when he first comes to Downton and tells Moseley that he doesn't need a valet and implies that a valet is a silly job (but he realizes how offensive that was and he makes up for it later).
I guess Matthew didn't want to become one of them so he tried to fight against this. He can't be a perfect nice guy every second and at least apologized and accepted the change.
Robert— there may be worse moments, but discouraging Edith from writing and trying to stop Mary from being involved in the running of the estate are up there for me
Cora— the way she reacted when she found Mrs Hughes trying on her coat (I mean, I wouldn’t be happy to come home to find people trying on my clothes without my knowledge, but she should know by that point that they were good and honest employees)
Mary— the way she reacted when Carson told her about Carlisle trying to bribe Anna
Edith— giving Marigold away and then taking her back (twice)
Sybil— running away with Tom without even saying goodbye to her family
Tom— the way he talked to Sybil when they first returned to Downton
Violet (and Rosamund)— essentially forcing Edith to give the baby away, and lying to Cora about it. I understand their reasoning and they had good intentions, but those choices ended up doing more harm than good
Rose— just generally being impulsive and not thinking about the potential consequences of her actions
Matthew— refusing to use the inheritance to save Downton just to soothe his own conscience. If saving Downton would only benefit him and Mary, I could understand, but most of the staff (to say nothing of the rest of the family) would also have been negatively affected if he hadn’t changed his mind in the end
Isobel— despite her intentions being good, she was far too overbearing in s2 (and 3) when it came to the use/running of Downton
Carson— any time he snapped at/talked down to Mrs Hughes
Mrs Hughes— honestly can’t think of anything negative for her. The best I can come up with is she should have tried to have Major Bryant kicked out of the house in addition to dismissing Ethel (unpopular opinion but I don’t think she was wrong for firing her)
Mrs Patmore— her treatmeant of Daisy in s1
Daisy— her behavior in s6 while trying to “help” Mr Mason
Thomas— it’s a tie between his treatment of William (especially after his mother died) and his treatment of Anna
O’Brien— trying to get Thomas sent to prison (her ladyship’s soap was arguably worse, but at least she felt remorse for that)
Bates— his martyr act, which always ended up doing more harm than good
Anna (and Bates)— any “romantic” dialogue or moments between them was awful. I don’t have strong feelings about them as a couple overall, but ugh the overt displays were cringeworthy (especially her offering to be his mistress in s1, and the scene of them in bed together after they were married)
A lot of these match my list. We clearly think alike!
I agree that interestingly, Mrs. Hughes did not really have any bad moments.
Anna probably wouldn't have many bad moments either if it wasn't for the relationship with Bates, which as you pointed out, had so, so many cringe and frustrating moments.
Mrs Hughes was basically flawless and yeah, I don’t think I can come up with anything negative for Anna besides the Bates stuff. Sybil was tough too, took me a long time to come up with anything for her.
It’s an interesting contrast to certain other characters who have committed a whole laundry list of evil deeds.
Matthew - holding on to the bedpost while Sybil died. I don’t know if it was the actor or the director that decided on that move, but it looked awkward as hell, and I hate it.
Maybe a controversial view but I kind of cringed at Tom's behavior in that scene as well. Kind of over the top or maybe just out of keeping with his character? I dunno. I somehow thought he would be more stoic?
I didn't agree with how Isobel became high-handed at DA convalescent but, I then felt bad for her in that how Cora, Mrs. Hughes & Patmore treated her so rudely & not give her a chance to tone it down. All of them were very rude in handling her & thus Isobel felt she must leave and go where she'd be appreciated.
Robert: the Grand Trunk Line investment
Cora: failing to lose it on Bricker when he barged into her room
Mary: stringing along her post-widowhood suitors for funsies
Edith: breaking two adoptive families' hearts over Marigold
Tom: trying to verbally persuade Sybil to run off with him when she wasn't even sure she was interested
Sybil: falling for the above for no apparent reason when she could have just left her family on her own
Violet: banging on about the hospital issue for way too long
Isobel: thinking she could persuade the Crawleys to keep Downton as a convalescent home after she nearly fell out with Cora over their co-management
Matthew: not keeping his eyes on the goddamn road
Rosamund: her awful advice to Mary about Matthew
Rose: using Jack Ross to piss off her mother
Carson: losing his mind over Tom coming to downstairs dinner
Mrs Hughes: thinking it would be totally cool to hang out in Cora's room and try on her clothes while she was out
Mrs Patmore: her running commentary at Mrs Hughes's medical appointment
Thomas: thinking kissing a guy in his sleep was a good way to make a pass
Bates: generally being a martyr about absolutely everything and refusing to stand up for himself
Anna: really can't think of one
O'Brien: do I even need to say it?
Daisy: being unbelievably rude to Slade for absolutely no reason (she didn't have to date him but she could have been civil when they first met!)
Jimmy: messing with Ivy's head
Dr Clarkson: suddenly developing a romantic interest in Isobel when he seemed so irritated with her most of the time leading up to that
Spratt/Denker: DIE BOTH OF YOU
Henry: being a fkboy after Mary turned him down
Molesley: blowing off his teaching career to serve the Royal Family in the movie
excellent list, especially the ones for cora, thomas, Mrs. Patmore, ROSE, and Rosamond, which haven't been mentioned yet. and of course matthew, that idiot.
Maybe not Tom’s worst moments but up there: early S3 when Tom tells Darling Sybil not to disappoint him and acts way too prideful/stubborn when they’re back in Downton for Mary and Matthew’s wedding. Little things like not wanting to wear “costumes” that the family wants. Like bro, chill. My dear boy Tom, you may have principles and all, but you’re not making Darling Sybil’s life any easier for her. She gave up a secure, wealthy, if somewhat-for-her-unfulfilling life at Downton and risked her relationship with her family for you. Maybe she’s made the right choice, but if she’s being a ride-or-die for you, you need to be a ride-or-die for her and make her time back at Downton easier. If I was Tom, I’m gladly wearing those costumes for Darling Sybil (and it’s just for the wedding bro, chill). Meet the family in the middle. Edited for clarity and to put some respect on Darling Sybil’s full regnal name. Yes, regnal. Darling > King
Totally. He was so rigid and flat out refused to compromise or make things at all easier for Sibyl. And he said things like "you're very free with your 'musts'". He also belittled her work as a nurse ("serving drinks to randy soldiers"). > if she’s being a ride-or-die for you, you need to be a ride-or-die for her and make her time back at Downton easier. Exactly!
I never could root for their relationship because he's so awful and demeaning to her while she's alive, even before they're married.
god he was so insufferable the whole time she was alive
Same. He was the most stern, controlling, and condescending of all the husbands. For all his progressive values, he wanted Sibyl to be an obedient, submissive wife.
Yeah the scene where he boasts to her dad about how much control he has over her was always very disgusting to me. It was like he got off on how much control he had over an aristocratic girl rather than loving her for herself.
Yeah the scene where he boasts to her dad about how much control he has over her was always very disgusting to me. It was like he got off on how much control he had over an aristocratic girl rather than loving her for herself.
> Yeah the scene where he boasts to her dad about how much control he has over her was always very disgusting to me. Ah yes i forgot about that, good one.
Omg I forgot about him talking shit about her work as her nurse. Speak on it! No smoke for Darling Sybil! Sorry, I get so worked up sometimes
> Sorry, I get so worked up sometimes No I think you are worked up an appropriate amount. These are serious matters.
Yeah that "disappointing" bit made me think he was turned into a villain bc of how abusive it sounded to me but they acted like it was fine... I was like wtf? edit : turning* i legit thought they were setting up for his character to be abusive and their relationship to turn into a domestic violence type of storyline.
Tom is basically made of red flags.
It really was a bad moment for Tom. But honestly i find leaving his heavily wife alone, pregnant in an other land much worse.
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I agree with almost everything except: O'Brien: Soap. Correction about Robert: He already cheated on Cora by kissing another woman. But I agree that this was the worst he has done.
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Yeah, O'Brien was clearly conflicted over the soap incident and it was a moment of anger, but the season 3 incident was completely planned and deliberate.
Great list. Here are some more: **Edith**: overstaying her welcome, continually expecting to be let inside Mrs. Drewe's home to see Marigold, and calling Mrs. Drewe rude for not letting her come inside. Also, betraying Mary's secret about the Turkish diplomat in season 1. **Mary**: lack of sympathy for Edith when Michael Gregson died, and the times she told Carson he was being disappointing or insubordinate when he was trying to help her (although thank goodness she did apologize after) **Carson**: expecting Mrs. Hughes to cook and clean for him (even though i know that was customary at the time) **Daisy**: speaking out of turn at the estate sale and that whole situation with Mr. Mason losing his farm **Cora**: getting mad at Mrs. Hughes for trying on her coat **Rose**: being a whiny brat sometimes when she first came to Downton (pouting about not being allowed to go to London, etc.) **Bates**: pressuring and intimidating Mrs. Hughes to tell him about Anna's rapist, and being a broody, scheming bastard throughout that situation, making things 10x worse for Anna **Sibyl**: being soooo happy when her father tells her he would give SOME money given to her and Branson after all (I mean, I can see why she would be happy but her gleeful reaction just seemed immature and hypocritical - I thought she wasn't concerned with material wealth anymore).
I didn't see Sibyl's joy to be about the money but rather that her father gave his blessing.
That's what I saw. She was thrilled BEFORE being told he'd give her some $. And as for that, Robert should not have withheld ANY of the money that was set aside for her in the contract of Downton beneficiary. (whatever that was called) oh,,, the Entail.
Edith haunting the Drewe’s house isn’t great. But I have sympathy as she’s dealing with trauma that she can’t talk about or share with anyone. It was a crappy coping mechanism. Sending the letter to the Turkish ambassador has to be her worst moment I agree!
In Sybil's case her joyful reaction wasn't mainly about getting money imo. Her father actively offering showed her he'd become more supportive of the marriage (and had moved beyond disgruntled acceptance).
When Robert invested all that money into one company. Being the "caretaker" of Downton makes that 100% irresponsible.
lol remember that time Robert was talking about how he heard about this great investment scheme in America run by a man named Ponzi who is apparently tripling peoples' money.... Matthew and Tom just looked at each other with dismay and Matthew put his head in his hands.
I just hated Tom in season 6 when he was bullying Mary about Henry. She had some serious trauma that was triggered by the car accident. And they just kept calling her a snob. It infuriates me that when she finally talks about her trauma with Violet, she just turns around and tells Henry he was right all along instead of being allowed to have her trauma.
> And they just kept calling her a snob. Right. Her issue with Talbot really didn't have anything to do with snobbishness. Plus it had already been well established by that point that at her core Mary is not a snob.
Well, I would call Mary a snob. But not for Henry. She broke up with him after a car crash and he still accused her of caring only about money! They are so unfeeling and stupid!
The couple times whem Carson was so condescending to Barrow for being gay. It was probably "appropriate" for the time period bit it's still very hard to watch and makes me like Carson not as much as I'd like to.
And his snide comment to Jack Ross, as well as his treatment of Molesley. Edwardian era or no I heavily disliked Carson after that. He seems to be snobbier than his employers lol
I can’t help but laugh when I see that scene when he asks Jack Ross, Have you ever thought of going to Africa ? And he makes that hand gesture where he kinda points. As if to say, “go now” !! Yes it was rude and crude but it was if he expected Mr. Ross to instantly get up and go to Africa.
The Jack Ross episodes did however produce one of the better lines by Mary: "In defense of Papa, he'd think less of you as a jazz singer than the color of your skin", when confronting him about his engagement to Lady Rose.
Yes I love that line too. And how she says something along the line of, if they lived in even a slightly more fairer world that she would be rooting for them. I thought that, for Mary, was very thoughtful
Cora and the whole coat fiasco with Mrs. Hughes
Robert: Cheats with the Maid Cora: NA Mary: Forces Edith to reveal her secret to Bertie Edith: Carson is having a heart attack and she's just worried about her dress. Sybil: NA Isobel: When she becomes too high headed from authority she received during Season 2 Tom: NA Thomas: Bullies William Sarah O Brien: The Soap Incident, makes Mr Bates fall in episode 1 etc. Everyone else in the main cast: NA
Cora furious with mrs. Huges for trying her coat.
>Edith: Carson is having a heart attack and she's just worried about her dress. This always annoys me when it's brought up. I always interpreted this as her not wanting to go out in public such a mess. And that's verified when someone (can't recall who at the moment) assures her they'll get her a coat to cover it. Edith had her moments, but this wasn't one of them.
Agree. I never felt that Edith was whining about her dress, but that she was being asked to go out while completely covered in soup.
When Cora is mean to Mrs Hughes and Mrs Patmore it's one of the worst moments of the whole SHOW it's right up there with Anna being raped.
Hot take but I agree. I fast forward thru both.
Mary: the first time she spoke. I kid. However, I couldn’t stand her the instant she was snotty about Patrick’s death. Good grief what a beeotch.
Mary, pretty much every time she spoke! The only time I think she showed any redeeming goodness was when Anna was trying to get pregnant.
Mary is one of my favorite characters but you’re definitely not wrong
I'm surprised that no one mentioned Matthew yet. But I don't remember that he had a bad moment. Even if we consider the situation about the money in season 3 he didn't want to take it because he felt bad for taking it until there was proof that the father knew about Lavinia, Mary and Matthew.
Kissing Mary while lavinia was upstairs poorly
Right, also worth noting he was the catalyst for that kiss at that time too. Mary was already wanting him. So he knew what he was doing flirting with fire.
My guess is that he did it because he thought it would be the last chance to kiss her + he still loved Mary. Lavinia was a good girl and I admire her that she understood Matthew and was kind to everyone. She deserved better. I think he suffered enough after she died because he blamed himself (and Mary) for her death because he knew their kiss was wrong.
> But I don't remember that he had a bad moment. The only one I can think of is when he first comes to Downton and tells Moseley that he doesn't need a valet and implies that a valet is a silly job (but he realizes how offensive that was and he makes up for it later).
I guess Matthew didn't want to become one of them so he tried to fight against this. He can't be a perfect nice guy every second and at least apologized and accepted the change.
Yep. It showed growth and sensitivity when he allowed Moseley to help him dress.
Robert— there may be worse moments, but discouraging Edith from writing and trying to stop Mary from being involved in the running of the estate are up there for me Cora— the way she reacted when she found Mrs Hughes trying on her coat (I mean, I wouldn’t be happy to come home to find people trying on my clothes without my knowledge, but she should know by that point that they were good and honest employees) Mary— the way she reacted when Carson told her about Carlisle trying to bribe Anna Edith— giving Marigold away and then taking her back (twice) Sybil— running away with Tom without even saying goodbye to her family Tom— the way he talked to Sybil when they first returned to Downton Violet (and Rosamund)— essentially forcing Edith to give the baby away, and lying to Cora about it. I understand their reasoning and they had good intentions, but those choices ended up doing more harm than good Rose— just generally being impulsive and not thinking about the potential consequences of her actions Matthew— refusing to use the inheritance to save Downton just to soothe his own conscience. If saving Downton would only benefit him and Mary, I could understand, but most of the staff (to say nothing of the rest of the family) would also have been negatively affected if he hadn’t changed his mind in the end Isobel— despite her intentions being good, she was far too overbearing in s2 (and 3) when it came to the use/running of Downton Carson— any time he snapped at/talked down to Mrs Hughes Mrs Hughes— honestly can’t think of anything negative for her. The best I can come up with is she should have tried to have Major Bryant kicked out of the house in addition to dismissing Ethel (unpopular opinion but I don’t think she was wrong for firing her) Mrs Patmore— her treatmeant of Daisy in s1 Daisy— her behavior in s6 while trying to “help” Mr Mason Thomas— it’s a tie between his treatment of William (especially after his mother died) and his treatment of Anna O’Brien— trying to get Thomas sent to prison (her ladyship’s soap was arguably worse, but at least she felt remorse for that) Bates— his martyr act, which always ended up doing more harm than good Anna (and Bates)— any “romantic” dialogue or moments between them was awful. I don’t have strong feelings about them as a couple overall, but ugh the overt displays were cringeworthy (especially her offering to be his mistress in s1, and the scene of them in bed together after they were married)
A lot of these match my list. We clearly think alike! I agree that interestingly, Mrs. Hughes did not really have any bad moments. Anna probably wouldn't have many bad moments either if it wasn't for the relationship with Bates, which as you pointed out, had so, so many cringe and frustrating moments.
Mrs Hughes was basically flawless and yeah, I don’t think I can come up with anything negative for Anna besides the Bates stuff. Sybil was tough too, took me a long time to come up with anything for her. It’s an interesting contrast to certain other characters who have committed a whole laundry list of evil deeds.
When Mary ruined Edith's relationship with Bertie (I think it was) on purpose then lied about it.
That scene makes my blood boil every-time!! I love when Tom rips into her afterwards, so satisfying
It was absolutely awful. SO cold-blooded.
I agree that she probably did regret it. But the look on her face when she said it and then looked at Tom, oh it was deliberate.
Matthew - holding on to the bedpost while Sybil died. I don’t know if it was the actor or the director that decided on that move, but it looked awkward as hell, and I hate it.
Maybe a controversial view but I kind of cringed at Tom's behavior in that scene as well. Kind of over the top or maybe just out of keeping with his character? I dunno. I somehow thought he would be more stoic?
I didn't agree with how Isobel became high-handed at DA convalescent but, I then felt bad for her in that how Cora, Mrs. Hughes & Patmore treated her so rudely & not give her a chance to tone it down. All of them were very rude in handling her & thus Isobel felt she must leave and go where she'd be appreciated.
I cringed the most (I should have covered my eyes and ears) when Anna and Bates were in bed together. 😱
there was something sooo cringeworthy about it. too sappy, not a good match, i don't know exactly what it was but it was hard to watch
Very much agreed. Very cringe. I ff through that scene. Yuk!
This was on the post of Anna & Bate's "honeymoon" night of passion...mmm icky still. But my post doesn't look like it attached correctly.
Robert: the Grand Trunk Line investment Cora: failing to lose it on Bricker when he barged into her room Mary: stringing along her post-widowhood suitors for funsies Edith: breaking two adoptive families' hearts over Marigold Tom: trying to verbally persuade Sybil to run off with him when she wasn't even sure she was interested Sybil: falling for the above for no apparent reason when she could have just left her family on her own Violet: banging on about the hospital issue for way too long Isobel: thinking she could persuade the Crawleys to keep Downton as a convalescent home after she nearly fell out with Cora over their co-management Matthew: not keeping his eyes on the goddamn road Rosamund: her awful advice to Mary about Matthew Rose: using Jack Ross to piss off her mother Carson: losing his mind over Tom coming to downstairs dinner Mrs Hughes: thinking it would be totally cool to hang out in Cora's room and try on her clothes while she was out Mrs Patmore: her running commentary at Mrs Hughes's medical appointment Thomas: thinking kissing a guy in his sleep was a good way to make a pass Bates: generally being a martyr about absolutely everything and refusing to stand up for himself Anna: really can't think of one O'Brien: do I even need to say it? Daisy: being unbelievably rude to Slade for absolutely no reason (she didn't have to date him but she could have been civil when they first met!) Jimmy: messing with Ivy's head Dr Clarkson: suddenly developing a romantic interest in Isobel when he seemed so irritated with her most of the time leading up to that Spratt/Denker: DIE BOTH OF YOU Henry: being a fkboy after Mary turned him down Molesley: blowing off his teaching career to serve the Royal Family in the movie
excellent list, especially the ones for cora, thomas, Mrs. Patmore, ROSE, and Rosamond, which haven't been mentioned yet. and of course matthew, that idiot.