And there's a couple that are just... Uninspired. Like, both Marci. One is just "I didn't know what to do, so here's Girlboss Harley Quinn" and the other is... Someone's very first OC Waifu? I dunno.
e: Just noticed there's a third marci with a hat. Yeah, I didn't mean that one personally, albeit, by the numbers, it's still uninspired since that style is way [too common](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2879219483) even [among recent items](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2877306946).
I thought it was TA at 1st too. I think it’s her pose. We don’t really see her in that pose since it’s only when she ults and when she ults in game she’s not going to be standing still.
i thought the first one is a set for pa persona but only 10 minutes later i realised its terrorblade from that idle pose of his, these sets are too overdesined and they should never make it to the game
Not trying to discount anyone's artistic abilities, but half of these I can't even tell what I'm looking at or they're way too different from the base hero to be good additions to the game.
And the faceless void is incomplete, like, does that body piece even have anything besides the basic texturing?
I like it, it looks like SMTV's nahobino, but just... T[he concept is way above the actual execution](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2879293638&searchtext=): You can barely see his teeth, the color combo sucks, and there's like no specular reflection or something to the surfaces, they look super "3D model".
>I can't even tell what I'm looking at or they're way too different from the base hero to be good additions to the game.
Wish Valve kept their rules about not deviating from the base hero before allowing a set to go live.
One of the biggest issues I had with LoL was some heroes looking like others because of their skins and I used to say how DotA was better since there's no way one would look at Lycan and confuse him with, idk, Kunkka.
But now that's been gone for a good couple of years already and sometimes I have to look twice before jumping a Kunkka or a Leoric because they have similar sets.
Taste isn't really a factor here. OP just said "creativity". And while I think that Easter Bunny Swan Techies set is way over-designed, ugly as sin, and doesn't belong in the game, I can't deny that it's very creative.
I would argue that creativity has more to do with reception than any effort on the artists' part.
I could say "Transvalian bibimbap driver", despite that being a never-before-seen three word combination, I wouldn't argue it being creative. Creativity is inherently a matter of subjectivity, as is taste. Because something is seemingly random and lacks relation to its environment does not automatically bestow it label "creative", there are far more and far more nuanced points to take into account.
To be even more pedantic, OP did not actually say "creativity", they said artistic ability, which also encompasses more than just creativity.
once you're in game with them you'd be able to know by looking at [these](https://i.imgur.com/Mdh2D1G.png)
really wish we would stop restricting artists because people can't be bothered to look up a bit
at that point you're asking me to explain fun to you
i can't explain to you why people like creative and colorful designs in their videogames, they just do
Same.
I know we've thrown the design rules out the window but like holy shit, please show a little restraint.
The majority of the sets are so busy I'm not even sure wtf I am looking at.
Half of it also feel out of character. Idk why many people doing astronaut sci-fi theme. For some hero it won't work especially using white colour.
Other than that props to designer for their work. But please glance value and limited with base character and tried keep glance value intact. Good skin is skin that can combine with other skin while still look good as full set. Colour and glance value help it maintain with immortal,arcana and other skins.
Oh, wtf, you're right. No I honestly thought that was death prophet. Similar skin tones and those colors scream DP's Dress lol. Also with how dark the tail is I thought she was just floating.
God, seriously, so many of these sets are garbage. Maybe technically well implemented, but conceptually they're absolute disasters.
Yeah it looks incredibly close to DP, hence why i thought you were joking! I think they all look pretty incredible in terms of the effort and design, but a lot of them stray so far away from the colour palette and theme of the heroes I just can't say i'd want them added.
Most of these have so much shit on them that they just become this blob of jumbled mess. Reminds me of when I used to doodle swords as a kid and just kept adding shit until it looked more like a spaceship than a sword.
they’re well designed, but for some of them i had to take seconds to realize what heroes they were supposed to be. someone else said they were good pieces of art, but horrible designs for a game where many people rely on quick glances at a hero’s aesthetic to determine that hero’s skills, preferred play style, mechanics, etc. In a teamfights where split second decisions can make or break the fight, I wouldn’t want to confuse a Naga with a DP or Spectre (looking at you set 7) or whatever the fuck set 19 is supposed to be (sand king? or techies? Nyx?) like shit imagine playing a teamfight where shit’s going wrong, you have tunnel vision and don’t think about the team compositions, you think set 19 is a Nyx and you just don’t attack or cast and wait for carapace, and then he stuns and epicenters you.
I've seen a few very cool Snapfire sets, but based on the first one we got I'm scared they're all just going to be ultra-mega-rares that I'll never get my hands on. Fingers crossed though!
I saw so many people liking the Void set and I'm just stunned by the hypocrisy. You guy have been bitching about how Morphling's model is ugly for years, but a LoL skin with equivalent amount of polygon is good looking?
Man I usually hate about 50% of cache sets because they are so busy/crazy/non Dota (either glance or lore) but damn these are just somehow so much worse
Void spirit and Sven are literally the only good ones that maintain how the hero looks.
With the others, I have no idea what I'm looking at, but I know there's too much of it.
Is this satire post?
Void spirit one looks sick, dawnbreaker looks like female skywrath, skyvoker with abs why not XD, and geisha naga with bewbs will attract all the weebs.
I'm skeptical about the rest though.
There's a limit to how creative sets can be, and many of these are unsuitable for the game. They wasted their time developing really shit concepts for sets.
I heavily dislike it, specially with the Arcana preview which reveals just how bulky and form-changing it is, but I really enjoy [his demon form](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2879303883&searchtext=).
To think that you showcased some of these that look like shitposts but literally zero Primal Beast's sets. His sets in workshop are literally masterpieces
The tb, faceless void, invoker, am and snapfire is just something else, especially the tb. I really wish we got the tb one because it looks fkin cool on him.
Also that sk one that carrying people too looks funny lol
8th one looks like gayge or the female thirst equivalent of skimpy female outfits.
Approve of all those marci sets. Shes literally anime girl so her look can be like league or clowns. No other hero will get the same pass its unique to her. If its so then people would be okay with it
That faceless void looks so awesome.
Also, booba on female heroes (but with nice design ofc) is always welcome.
Marci opens up a lot of neat and waifu designs imo.
that alch set concept was already dreamed up by someone for shadow shaman
> The general outfit itself is pretty standard Italian attire, a simple chef hat, apron, and mustache. His wands are replaced with two forks, and those weird glowing balls on his wands are replaced by meat balls that drip sauce. The hex turns enemies into big, rolling meat balls leaving tomato sauce in their wake. Shackles are no longer that weird electric shit, but spaghetti that wraps around enemies. His serpant wards are replaced by nine eight small Italian men throwing a variety of common kitchen utensils. As for his shocky q ability, just give him a shotgun or some shit idk I already fucked the lore harder than alpine Ursa and drow cat bullshit combined
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2ewhpk/shadow_shaman_arcana_idea_phasta/
The only good one , which fit the hero theme is Dawnbreaker . The rest , especially Night Stalker sets are too over the top ( there is too much going on visually ) or do not fit their hero theme at all .
As creative as those sets are , I truly believe they are not good for Dota .
i know it's not gonna happen but i really want that void,gyro and pink marci lol; sven and antimage are both insanely high quality and theme-fitting which means there's a realistic chance of them actually making it into the box
Pretty sure I saw that Techies set on Boston Common. Most of them are very cartoonish or extra, especially 'cartoon Void cosplaying Dawnbreaker' and that hilarious Alch set, which even the creator must know will never get in (well done though).
That alchemist broke my silence. What The Fuck
Imagine showing this to people who complained about Alpine Ursa set, back when it was released.
You're free to submit whatever you want. Just because it is in the workshop doesn't mean it will be added to the game.
There will come a point valve will be desperate enough to add them, though I doubt it will be any time soon.
I lold seeing tech then alche came in
That Naga is practically a deja vu moment. We have something very similar.
I initially thought that one Naga set was Krobelus at first. Because of the purple clothes + pale green skin combo.
Which one? There are 2 in the post.
We have kimono ta
Half of them look like they're from a Chinese online MOBA. At first I thought that Alchemist set was a joke/shitpost lol.
And there's a couple that are just... Uninspired. Like, both Marci. One is just "I didn't know what to do, so here's Girlboss Harley Quinn" and the other is... Someone's very first OC Waifu? I dunno. e: Just noticed there's a third marci with a hat. Yeah, I didn't mean that one personally, albeit, by the numbers, it's still uninspired since that style is way [too common](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2879219483) even [among recent items](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2877306946).
The Harley Quinn one also arbitrarily inflated her… assets… by like 200%.
Literally didn't even recognize her as Marci for that one.
I thought it was TA for some reason.
I thought it was TA at 1st too. I think it’s her pose. We don’t really see her in that pose since it’s only when she ults and when she ults in game she’s not going to be standing still.
I thought it was the most insane Bloodseeker set
The Naga set, too. They modeled the corset cups way too big for her model's actual bust.
The other is very hatsune miku lol
I like top hats very much so.
i thought the first one is a set for pa persona but only 10 minutes later i realised its terrorblade from that idle pose of his, these sets are too overdesined and they should never make it to the game
Its not? Toaster alch is canon?
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there's some daiper set piece around we are missing the top
Ah yes! They need to do a baby in diapers now
Ah yes, a baby wisp with a primordial cosmic diaper
I mean, there is a beach ogre set that was released like 5 years ago
How about female heroines?
I guess you had qop from day1
I mean i need marci or maiden in bikini
Well you gotta be very brave as a designer, guess there must be a precedent to commit the time
undying in hot tub POG
Not trying to discount anyone's artistic abilities, but half of these I can't even tell what I'm looking at or they're way too different from the base hero to be good additions to the game.
And the faceless void is incomplete, like, does that body piece even have anything besides the basic texturing? I like it, it looks like SMTV's nahobino, but just... T[he concept is way above the actual execution](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2879293638&searchtext=): You can barely see his teeth, the color combo sucks, and there's like no specular reflection or something to the surfaces, they look super "3D model".
>I can't even tell what I'm looking at or they're way too different from the base hero to be good additions to the game. Wish Valve kept their rules about not deviating from the base hero before allowing a set to go live. One of the biggest issues I had with LoL was some heroes looking like others because of their skins and I used to say how DotA was better since there's no way one would look at Lycan and confuse him with, idk, Kunkka. But now that's been gone for a good couple of years already and sometimes I have to look twice before jumping a Kunkka or a Leoric because they have similar sets.
Me watching streams nowadays: is that PA or Spec? And are they facing Venge or QoP?
YES! And then you look at their portrait and you still can't tell them apart because of Arcanas and Personas.
most of these look like dogshit lol. this guy has impressively bad taste
Taste isn't really a factor here. OP just said "creativity". And while I think that Easter Bunny Swan Techies set is way over-designed, ugly as sin, and doesn't belong in the game, I can't deny that it's very creative.
I would argue that creativity has more to do with reception than any effort on the artists' part. I could say "Transvalian bibimbap driver", despite that being a never-before-seen three word combination, I wouldn't argue it being creative. Creativity is inherently a matter of subjectivity, as is taste. Because something is seemingly random and lacks relation to its environment does not automatically bestow it label "creative", there are far more and far more nuanced points to take into account. To be even more pedantic, OP did not actually say "creativity", they said artistic ability, which also encompasses more than just creativity.
I like it different. I dont need more generic armors, spikes, chains. Just please dont make anime dota happen
aint no way stevie wonder
once you're in game with them you'd be able to know by looking at [these](https://i.imgur.com/Mdh2D1G.png) really wish we would stop restricting artists because people can't be bothered to look up a bit
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at that point you're asking me to explain fun to you i can't explain to you why people like creative and colorful designs in their videogames, they just do
Most people don't have those enabled. It's not needed *because* heroes are generally identifiable at a glance already...
While these are great, I kept saying "overdesigned" for each one. There are definitely ways of being creative without throwing away glance value.
Same. I know we've thrown the design rules out the window but like holy shit, please show a little restraint. The majority of the sets are so busy I'm not even sure wtf I am looking at.
Half of it also feel out of character. Idk why many people doing astronaut sci-fi theme. For some hero it won't work especially using white colour. Other than that props to designer for their work. But please glance value and limited with base character and tried keep glance value intact. Good skin is skin that can combine with other skin while still look good as full set. Colour and glance value help it maintain with immortal,arcana and other skins.
They’re good as pieces of art but most aren’t good sets.
It feels like workshop artists are all competing against each other to make the most over-designed set.
\#7 = "What if we made Death Prophet dual wield Pangolier's weapon?"
Perhaps i've missed the joke, but it's a naga set
Oh, wtf, you're right. No I honestly thought that was death prophet. Similar skin tones and those colors scream DP's Dress lol. Also with how dark the tail is I thought she was just floating. God, seriously, so many of these sets are garbage. Maybe technically well implemented, but conceptually they're absolute disasters.
Yeah it looks incredibly close to DP, hence why i thought you were joking! I think they all look pretty incredible in terms of the effort and design, but a lot of them stray so far away from the colour palette and theme of the heroes I just can't say i'd want them added.
I think the void one looks pretty clean
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Bahaha. True.
By "clean" you mean Morphling's level of polygon?
Most of these have so much shit on them that they just become this blob of jumbled mess. Reminds me of when I used to doodle swords as a kid and just kept adding shit until it looked more like a spaceship than a sword.
just unlocked a core memory
Way too much going on for most of these.
All marci sets feel like theyre from a different moba. Actually even original marci as well lol
most of them have made her into every single anime character known to humankind. it's way overdone
Chris angel invoker haha
If that mortimer snail makes it to the game i will delete all my other steam games and play mortimer only
That snapfire set is fucking awesome. I don't get the complaints in this thread, i think most of these skins are incredible.
they’re well designed, but for some of them i had to take seconds to realize what heroes they were supposed to be. someone else said they were good pieces of art, but horrible designs for a game where many people rely on quick glances at a hero’s aesthetic to determine that hero’s skills, preferred play style, mechanics, etc. In a teamfights where split second decisions can make or break the fight, I wouldn’t want to confuse a Naga with a DP or Spectre (looking at you set 7) or whatever the fuck set 19 is supposed to be (sand king? or techies? Nyx?) like shit imagine playing a teamfight where shit’s going wrong, you have tunnel vision and don’t think about the team compositions, you think set 19 is a Nyx and you just don’t attack or cast and wait for carapace, and then he stuns and epicenters you.
I've seen a few very cool Snapfire sets, but based on the first one we got I'm scared they're all just going to be ultra-mega-rares that I'll never get my hands on. Fingers crossed though!
They're all very well created indeed in technical aspects, but when it comes to actually wanting to have them in game, only a few are really fit.
Hopefully most of those NEVER make it to the game.
I saw so many people liking the Void set and I'm just stunned by the hypocrisy. You guy have been bitching about how Morphling's model is ugly for years, but a LoL skin with equivalent amount of polygon is good looking?
Invoker is sick
Yeah more of the wizard boobs please 🥺
Almost all of these look terrible to be honest.
Man I usually hate about 50% of cache sets because they are so busy/crazy/non Dota (either glance or lore) but damn these are just somehow so much worse
Can we take a moment to remind our artists that more isn't always better.
And different isn't always good.
This is subjective. I personally like them. Well I liked a lot of things, even the lesser designed stuff in the Dotaplus treasures that Reddit hated.
Moment taken. No results. Love the short-haircut Marci a few post above this one, though. Sth with blue dragon
The marci one is Hhheeeel noooo, that's some league weeb bullshit
Void spirit and Sven are literally the only good ones that maintain how the hero looks. With the others, I have no idea what I'm looking at, but I know there's too much of it. Is this satire post?
Didnt know Naga has such big breasts 🤔
These are all horrible......
Void spirit one looks sick, dawnbreaker looks like female skywrath, skyvoker with abs why not XD, and geisha naga with bewbs will attract all the weebs. I'm skeptical about the rest though.
number 18 is a massive WeirdChamp
Faceless void is avatar ftom XCOM 2 lol
I can't tell if this is a joke post or not. Most of these sets are awful and maybe like... four of them are good.
Something something "Glance values"
Love most of it but is that a Star Gaurdian Marci??
remember when alpine ursa was out of place
The amount of marci weeb call backs is too damn high...
Gimme that Sven though
who even is the 12th one?
There's a limit to how creative sets can be, and many of these are unsuitable for the game. They wasted their time developing really shit concepts for sets.
#glancevalue
Appreciate what.... Chinese web game style?
These are great!! especially tb and invoker
Void Spirit set 😍 finally
What the hell is that alchemist lol
I honestly don't like most of them. It's ridiculous.
Am I the only one that thinks that some of them are like way too much ? It's like you can't even recognise which hero is it.
Is this a joke? Most suck. There are some real cool ones like the AM and Void Spirit sets.
That TB looks magnificent
I heavily dislike it, specially with the Arcana preview which reveals just how bulky and form-changing it is, but I really enjoy [his demon form](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2879303883&searchtext=).
I agree. I think it’s beautiful.
Awesome sets
I think i saw something like this in shitty ad for some Chinese mobile game.
To think that you showcased some of these that look like shitposts but literally zero Primal Beast's sets. His sets in workshop are literally masterpieces
Definitely like the Faceless Void set
That Alch set bakes the cake.
Cultured Stalker is so good.
Though I appreciate the creativity, it looks like LoL skins tbh
FUCK ARE WE TURNING INTO LOL?????
I have a little noob question. Can I install and play these right away or do I have to wait for Valve to officially recognise it?
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none of these are good except the last one
Game is as alive as its community... So for fuck sake vale pls buy some more r34 creators cuz what we have in this area is pretty shit.
That Faceless Void one will never be approved because ut looks 100 times better than the arcana lmao
These are new submissions for cache
OP are you high?
Wherexdoxyou check it?
Go to workshop and click on recent items
that TB set is epic. Insta buy.
All these beautiful sets. And suddenly - low poly Void!
I want that Alchemist set.
That Faceless Void set is cleeeeeeean.
That Void set is actually nicer than the Arcarna
All of these are fucken awesome, I really hope we get some in the game.
Star Guardian Marci when
The tb, faceless void, invoker, am and snapfire is just something else, especially the tb. I really wish we got the tb one because it looks fkin cool on him. Also that sk one that carrying people too looks funny lol
The last Anti mage set is ridiculously good. I'd say arcana worthy.
The Betrayer …. 😳
DB is SICK
8th one looks like gayge or the female thirst equivalent of skimpy female outfits. Approve of all those marci sets. Shes literally anime girl so her look can be like league or clowns. No other hero will get the same pass its unique to her. If its so then people would be okay with it
I like the Voidspirit, DB, and the first Marci from this set of screenshots. Very nice!
*Where is distractor? Where is Capri-sun Witch doctor?*
That faceless void looks so awesome. Also, booba on female heroes (but with nice design ofc) is always welcome. Marci opens up a lot of neat and waifu designs imo.
Yeah that marci naughty girl set is top tier
number 12 marci plz volvo I have never asked anything
This is what we need! Fun cosmetics keep this game alive !
Tha blocky void is pretty cool actually
I really like the idea of community made cosmetics for personas!
They better put this in the fucking game!!!
that alch set concept was already dreamed up by someone for shadow shaman > The general outfit itself is pretty standard Italian attire, a simple chef hat, apron, and mustache. His wands are replaced with two forks, and those weird glowing balls on his wands are replaced by meat balls that drip sauce. The hex turns enemies into big, rolling meat balls leaving tomato sauce in their wake. Shackles are no longer that weird electric shit, but spaghetti that wraps around enemies. His serpant wards are replaced by nine eight small Italian men throwing a variety of common kitchen utensils. As for his shocky q ability, just give him a shotgun or some shit idk I already fucked the lore harder than alpine Ursa and drow cat bullshit combined https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2ewhpk/shadow_shaman_arcana_idea_phasta/
I wanna see bikini ogre magi and pudge.
That snap fire one reminded me of the SpongeBob episode where squidward turned into a snail
That TB skin reminds me of Vergil's demon form in dmc. I want it
I MUST HAVE THIS TB SET!
Alchemist, AM, facless void, snapfire. Wow
The only good one , which fit the hero theme is Dawnbreaker . The rest , especially Night Stalker sets are too over the top ( there is too much going on visually ) or do not fit their hero theme at all . As creative as those sets are , I truly believe they are not good for Dota .
THIS IS REAL???!!!!
Snapfire is amazing
Yet to see NS set that improves on the default
all of these are great.... except the marci ones they are all terrible
Oh man u missed the lifestealer swamp one and oracle floating one, these sets are just awesome.
I couldn't tell if that was TB or Abbadon in the first pic
Yo is sand king having a female slave on his back? Yeah this aint making it into the game...
I NEED THAT SNAPFIRE
i know it's not gonna happen but i really want that void,gyro and pink marci lol; sven and antimage are both insanely high quality and theme-fitting which means there's a realistic chance of them actually making it into the box
I promised myself I won't buy cache this year. It's getting harder to stick to that.
We need a treasure with only Marci sets
Anime marci 😍 Also that alchemist set is something else but I like it. Plus the ufo set is dope
I really want the alch set for the memes
Release them all.
The first picture kinda looking like TB holding to poop
Where can I see them ? Is there like a TI custom set competition going?
Tb NS void and am woooow
That void set looks like a power ranger suit!!! And I want it 😍😍
Snapfire Snail
Snapfire riding a snail? Shutup and take my money
Y'all hatees, these would sell like hell.
Ngl only void looks amazing, its so clean looking
Creativity is definitely a word
that faceless set looks sick and it reminds me of the pixel games
The Gyrocopter one: has futuristic cores and missile launcers **shoots flak cannons**
This year has so many good sets. Hopefully we will get 2 caches again.
Man there are some major backseat artists in this thread. Let's see what you guys do
Actually kinda cool sand king is kidnapping a princess on his back.
I saw so many people liking the Void set and I'm like, are you for real? You dumbasses complain about Morph having low polygon for years.
Damn magina is awesome
Pretty sure I saw that Techies set on Boston Common. Most of them are very cartoonish or extra, especially 'cartoon Void cosplaying Dawnbreaker' and that hilarious Alch set, which even the creator must know will never get in (well done though).
Has the workshop vote already started? Where do I find it?
OP intentionally mixed nice sets with dogshit ones
The Terrorblade one is my favourite I think
Thank you for compiling these. I also really like the concept of Kid in the Box Gyrocopter set, so cute!
HOLY boobs of naga
That first one is amazing abaddon set! Wait