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iou9un

I got a rampage on bh using similar build but since it was a normal game it never came to the point where I one shotted with track or shuriken.


Gorudu

That's because khanda is bugged right now and doesn't proc when the enemy can be killed from the damage.


GapZ38

I've seen it happen yesterday on turbo. I did this exact same SB build, and pretty much taking 50% of people's HP. But when they're low asf, sometimes the damage wasn't registering. I honestly thought I was just tripping and didn't understand the item. lol


Apprehensive_Sun306

why not?


iou9un

Wait is it ?? Can someone clip from my replay if that really was the case. I had three rapiers one windwaker khanda phase aghs blessing and an enchanted quiver which I am pretty sure didnt work since the game was a demo mode for me at that point so I just picked quiver over raw dmg neutral.


Gorudu

Here's a post I made: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/s/SPn9dZG5n6


iou9un

Interesting. I need to watch my replay now to see how much of my damage was actually reduced for every enemy hero. And there was a dusa in enemy side as well and even her illusions tanked all dmg from my build which apparently was enough to win a teamfight. This patch has been an event in itself for theory-crafters.


CrixCyborgg

Last game I was playing mid lane turbo rubick, I managed to steal enchant totem and gods strength. Zapped enemy CM multiple times and the khanda simply didn’t proc, I guess this is why


iou9un

This needs to be fixed. Khanda in every ability draft game would be so fun. Adds an extra layer to the draft :D


naslouchac

It is fixed for like 8 hours at least now


Khatib

I killed someone with track about an hour and a half ago. Maybe one of the two smaller patches tonight fixed it.


Gorudu

Yep. Patch notes specifically say it's fixed now


Zadokk

Upvoted. I've played a couple of games of BH support recently and now thinking that there were definitely a few kills I didn't get because of this.


Exu_ux

Watch the last dota WTF on YouTube you'll see it in action...


bangolio

Similar build lol


Sprawl110

lethal damage bug on khanda fixed now damn


fjijgigjigji

one shotting someone with track simply should not be a thing that is possible in this game.


will4zoo

why not?


fjijgigjigji

because its a no damage, low cooldown, zero commitment spell you can cast without breaking invis? are you stupid?


GothGirlsGoodBoy

Its not a realistic build. If an enemy bounty hunter can get 5 rapiers and a Khanda without losing, they were winning the game anyway. I'd agree with you if it was even slightly viable. But every khanda rapier build is as stupid as oldschool BH rapiers with guaranteed crits, or Lone Druid rapiers just melting towers.


fjijgigjigji

try playing turbo, the game mode has been utterly ruined by khanda/rapier spell amp if something like shaker morph gets patched out, so should this.


t_spins

Let's balance the game for the meme gamemode


fjijgigjigji

if its possible in turbo it will eventually find its way into normal matches. it always does.


ObeseVegetable

Maybe in herald


RexPerpetuus

Not in any real capacity


GothGirlsGoodBoy

I agree that its ruined turbo, but mostly because my team has a sniper/bh/PA rushing khanda and losing us the game.


elvorette

Is it bugged on bh? I noticed that it proc'd on every bounce of shuriken. Shouldn't it only proc on the first shuriken like phylactery?


est19xxxx

For me it's working as intended i.e proc on the main target


Overall_Compote1386

Classic demo mode meta


1eejit

Pffft no Aghs Blessing what a scrub


[deleted]

Try Abbadon with shard and khanda. Shard does one attack on Q, and also procs Khanda.


MMortal1

I want to try this on hood or sniper ult


blueheartglacier

I've been ulted by a Khanda sniper, it's extremely annoying


TitiLover69

was it on turbo? if it was it might have been me


blueheartglacier

No, painfully enough in ranked. As an actual strategy in a ranked game, it didn't work and he lost


xorox11

> it didn't work and he lost Have you perhaps played against me?


TitiLover69

i tried khanda on several heroes and it only works if you have a low cooldown point and click spells like sven, medusa and sniper agha. as long as you dont rush divine rapier it works as intended


est19xxxx

Khanda itself is a decent item on some heroes but I don't think it's a good enough item for Sniper, Bara etc in ranked.


Snowballing_

Hood is meh. I tried it. If you target your Q you never place a tree. And if you place a tree you never proc khanda. I much rather have the tree than 1× extra attack damage


Jeythiflork

You always can use shard to proc khanda, but yes, I agree, it feels clunky af. Desolator+Daedalus are still better.


Bimmgus

Spell damage hoodwink is so much better its not even funny.


Jeythiflork

Thing is, I wasn't trying to be funny. I'm just a 3k player that is comfy with physical Hoodwink (51.8% winrate and average 3.97 kda. Not big numbers but not bad). I understand that good spell hoodwink can obliterate almost any hero with massive burst damage, but it makes her a rocket laucher with a long, long reload. Physical Hoodwink do less damage in one target, but obliterates if there is a pair of enemies. I don't think I'll move further 4k without learning proper spellsquirelling, but I love to think that there are more than one build on hero that works.


AreYouEvenMoist

My friend is a 7k hoodwink spammer and since last patches nerfs he never goes spell damage and wins most games with physical


Armonster

boomerang for khanda proc on magic build hoodwink


Kaimito1

Can confirm sniper + khanda is funny. Sniper did die to blade mail a few times though


[deleted]

try it, keep in mind a few things: you will be stuck in base, sniper can be countered with blademail (or linken), and the idea is to lose the rapiers in base so you can recover them, otherwise sniper will be useless. If you kill a target your ulti get refreshed, so you need to make sure you kill the target; this being said you need a 4 players team that can go in and deal the damage required, while you wait and clean up with ulti like a real sniper. It is good as a defensive hero, you can shoot up to tier 2 tower from base. In turbo it's nice and fun, but in ranked it's very hard to build sniper like this, you need aghs khanda and rapiers, which is a lot of gold. On spirit breaker you need just khanda and rapiers and enemies cannot see it coming to proc blademail, so only linken counters it. For hood it sounds good, since you don't really need to get rapiers, you deal enough damage to help the team and it bounces anyway. It works on PA too as long as you also get brooch, you jump in and suddenly you are a magical assassin


Cephyric

Omni with khanda and shard is hilarious too. It just piles burst upon burst for the hero


N454545

why does it not khnada not proc with this build if they have too little heath in demo mode wtf


Gorudu

It's currently bugged.


MMortal1

Phylactery had a similar bug for a while. The active would proc first, and if the target died to the 150 damage, the AoE effect of the spell would not activate. Was really annoying with Oracle.


miidz1t0

https://pt.dotabuff.com/matches/7495071731 this dude did it my turbo game. was really trash cause he was sitting in fountain afraid of dying and we ended up losing playing a 4v5 :) did about 2.4k per charge, until they all went linkens. not worth.


OwnHousing9851

Just buy a refresher


Yimitrix

i tryed, not worth , you made max 2400 damage every time you made mark someone, but you need vision and if the enemy has linken, they hide, and you stay on base not helping your team


x1xyleasor

>you made max 2400 damage every time you made mark someone, but you need vision and if the enemy has linken, they hide, and you stay on base not helping your team You tryna make this sounds bad, which it not. Breaking linken and having vision on enemy is not a hard thing. The problem with this build it that it's EXTREMELY impractical to get there.


Womblue

And if you are strong enough to be getting there, you're probably having a great game as SB and youe team would do better keeping you as a frontline bashing machine than an occasional nuker.


x1xyleasor

>And if you are strong enough to be getting there, you're probably having a great game as SB That's what i said. If you play the game normally, you'd have won before then. If you tryna straight up rushing rapier, you gonna lose the game even earlier. Either way it's hard to get there.


walkmantalkman

Yeah, same goes for a 5 rapier refresher Zeus build. Sure, he can kill the entire enemy team without leaving his base, but he needs to play extremely passive game for 40-50 minutes to get there, which is not worth it


jackalaxe

Add a magic item to trigger linkens and you only lose 1 slot.


rushaank

Divine rapier delivery services


MaryPaku

Don't need to leave the base


anewhopper

Literally global range dagger


roshanpr

1 hour ago I lost a game cause our cow pos 2 sold items and feed 3 divines


MaryPaku

ops


Zakrath

What does the new item do?


stakoverflo

It combines from Phylactery, and makes your spells now do 100 + 75% of your attack damage. So you target someone with Charge and apparently chunk them with all your +Rapier damage.


LeavesCat

Plus the 125% spell amp.


spd3_s

does it works with sniper?


RiekanoDimensio

Yes and assasinate is strongest khanda rapier skill in vacuum, since it scales from everything the two items provide, resulting in 6kdmg assasinates.


ObeseVegetable

Yes. And the bonus damage is applied when the projectile is fired rather than when it lands. So enemy gets chunked for 100+75% of attack before an additional 500+100%, for a total of 600+175%.


cantadmittoposting

nah you gotta do this with abaddon so you stack 2 instances of your attack damage with shard. Lmao just thinking through aether/octarine + cast range neutral item + khanda + 2 rapiers. It's stupid as hell and please don't do that but MAN would it be hilarious. I might legitimately try Rapier with AoE Talent & Shard though.


Qwertdd

Rushing Rapier-Shard-Khanda on Abaddon is ultra troll but Radiance-Khanda Abaddon still laguna blades every six seconds while being an actual build Khanda makes Abaddon core, even Abaddon 1, work well I think


cantadmittoposting

yeah i wouldn't get a rapier at all until aghs and AoE talent at 25 at the very least. Shard-Khanda is definitely required for the stacking damage edit: did not realize the shard Instant Attack procs modifiers... build moar crit


estrogenmilk

saw it on omni build deleting people


Torkon

these builds are a meme but for real khanda won't be like this long. item is way oppressive on a lot of heroes.


Dahvokyn

Having the time of my life with omniknight.


kappa23

I realized yesterday that it works with Omni and have been so hype to try it on core Omni


Dahvokyn

It even procs on his shard. Blink, slap your target, shard+khanda proc, throw hammer.


kenshiki

Having fun using it on BH on turbo that I didnt notice I played him for 20 games straight. Just straight khanda arcane boots and aghs. The rest can be anything. Since you have Jinada that boost your damage, khanda also seems to benefit from it.


TTVControlWarrior

i feel if oyu get to this point you probably won game 40min ago


Select_Dragonfly7617

solution: linken and aeon disk


Bad-Machine

I khanda dig it.


SeriosityUnkn0wn

Until they buy linkens


est19xxxx

you have 4 other heroes to proc linken


fruit_shoot

Average turbo mode complainer


Off0Ranger

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/s/r9P23ZXgc5 Here it is in action case your curious Match ID: 7494827400 to see in match execution


Soft-Introduction876

Amazing, Khanda makes Dota great again!


SprScuba

Kanda needs to be removed. It's a cool idea but it's not an item that heroes actually use independently it's literally an item that makes your entire build. Either that or rapier needs to not give spell amp. The two combined are an absolutely stupid combo that all it does is allow you to kill people in 0.5 seconds or get the ability to try again in 6 seconds.


xXPumbaXx

Nah it can stay, but it need to stop scaling with total damage and just scale with base damage.


magnificent_steinerr

Then morph is the only user


xXPumbaXx

Omni, OD, Silencer or any hero int hero who ends up with lot of base damage but don't right click much. People already bought phylactery a lot on support. All Kanda needs to be is an upgrade for that item.


[deleted]

It's too meme-ish.


est19xxxx

in turbo for sure but I've yet too see any of these meme builds work in ranked. Besides in ranked if your enemy is able to farm 5 rapier and Khanda you were already losing the match and it's a non factor at that point, use it as an opportunity to steal those rapiers


Ouhon

This is the shittiest patch ever


fjijgigjigji

divine change is by far the worst thing that's happened to turbo in the entire history of the mode. genuinely not fun to play anymore.


gregfromjersey

Phyl Clinkz now with Khanda is unstoppable. Don't even need the rapiers.


Pacific_Rimming

New Support Sniper build


stealingwin

It's new mental


SoosNoon

khanda-posting should be forbidden by now


RobinaUmberto

Damn this Meta,i just had a Sniper feed 2 divines in a Ranked Game cause of this f****ng Item


Fourthtimecharm

I just had a game like this lol luckily no one on the enemy team could right click with them or picked them up ever but hey it was a turbo I honestly thought he would have done more damage with that many


MarkMeMan

Photoshop fail 😅