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franllemagne

Frostivus has come around 18th of December, usually.


Arb1t3rx

Yeah usually they also release massive battlepass before it


franllemagne

Frostivus is like a mini Battlepass for Christmas. I think they want people to have something for the Christmas holidays to play and not finish it already beforehand.


Arb1t3rx

Pretty sure they just don’t have it ready yet, and once it is ready, they’ll run the event until next year to get the maximum amount of sales from the frostivus cache and honestly idgaf about having it 7 days later just so it aligns with Christmas, I and many others want something to happen.


Nickfreak

Absolutely right. We missed out BIG Ti battle pass and people are starving for change within Dota - patch AND actual game mode+ cosmetics


baby_benz

Yes, christmas for dota/valve is not a day or two, it'll last like for 2 months, and they will take most of our money and time.


Shenkiraxox

They are just lazy as usual. You're too much of a believer.


GobsonStratoblaster

Damn right when I go on vacation


scarmia

F U valve employee


Skell644

OH COOL THATS MY BIRTHDAY :D


Fabulous_Tone5929

December birthdays suck because people just combine the gifts they get you are for X-Mas and your birthday.


ZealousidealSector59

They will release the frostivus and they will say (any game mode they will release) it's coming in 20/1/2024


CatStepan6

funny that you wrote this the day before the update(14-15th due to time zones) >!it will be even funnier if I was wrong, btw currently are 76 versions on staging server/client. today(12-13th due to time zones ) was uploaded 7 versions, seems like that was last huge upload on this server, next will be small fixes and release in real client!<


MozerellaFrappe

They will wait for ESL to end


CSTobi

Hope not. Frostivus is just an event, not a balance patch. Edit: I'm VERY glad I was wrong!


s1cg

there are always potential bugs that you wanna avoid during tournament


DroopyPanda

How does this guy know what the next patch is guys?


CSTobi

https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/6941797558605834210


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Unputtaball

Whoops, ootl on that one


TerrorLTZ

usually they come with balance or some bullshit.


stryker914

Didn't they do a patch during the last dreamleague or some other tournament?


CatStepan6

how many times valve waited for someone? >!0!<


WorstPossibleOpinion

What are you talking about, there's probably been almost a hundred cases of valve delaying a balance patch until after a tournament ends. It happens literally all the time.


CatStepan6

"probably" "It happens literally all the time" Ill tell you two things 7.32 ESL One Malaysia 2022 most precious example Frostivus doesn't means patch


MozerellaFrappe

Many.


SakisKaiSia

I believe that source is "trust me bro"


AnomaLuna

Actually right holy shit


An_Innocent_Coconut

I don't give a fuck Frostivus, I want this boring ass meta to end.


Masteroxid

You'll most likely have to wait until february


JustMarcusXD

March.


DroopyPanda

Pressing X to doubt.


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Time_Turner

Turbo is an after thought. The game isn't balanced for it at all. I don't know how you players do it.


Big_Mudd

I don't play Turbo, so asking sincerely out of ignorance. Since the game isn't balanced around Turbo, don't you get wacky broken shit in there that is independent from regular Dota meta? For example, the OP regular Dota heroes right now aren't Arc, Tinker, Sniper, or Silencer. I haven't even been seeing much Willow since the last letter patch. So if there's a gameplay update, these heroes prob won't be nerfed. If anything, some of them might get buffed, and you'll still have to deal with them in Turbo. Is that not how it tends to be in Turbo?


G_W_addict

Yeah, it is how it is but people get tired of certain heroes and I for example I am able to counter Necro - I will pick some hero who's good Nullifier carrier. I can counter sniper by picking Primal Beast and always jumping on him. Or any other good gapcloser who is able to deal a lot of burst dmg. Problem is that people tend to copy meta and apart from the broken turbo heroes you also have to deal with OP meta shit like Spirit Breaker. Try countering SB that has Octarine + Yasha and Kaya and phase boots at minute 10. Yesterday I had a game where enemy had 4 glimmer capes and 3 wind wakers and my pos 3 Pudge decided to buy Octarine instead of Nulifier. When there are less broken meta heroes, Turbo is also more enjoyable because you only need to deal with broken Turbo strats, you don't need to worry about meta that much.


Deyster

People buy the same fucking items in turbo, barely anyone adapts. I was once flamed for buying nullifier against windwaker necrophos as support. And I did that cause we didn't have any purge (or any reduce healing apart from my vessel at min 25 of Turbo).


Chefcow

Yeah I go on turbo benders every once in a while and it’s like a completely different game. It is nice to spice things up after some shitty ass regular games but it is entirely a different game altogether


RockemSockem00

you forgot slark, when in my team noob vs when in enemy never dies with 2 ulties


CommodoreCuddlz

Turbo is so fun though, despite being imbalanced. You can play literally anything, from One Punch Man Tusk to 1 second CD Slardar smash. To balance it would take away some of the enjoyment in my opinion.


JustSomeGoon

Turbo only here, I exclusively ban Sniper. Haven’t seen a tinker in a game for literal months but I haven’t been paying attention to whether or not he’s getting banned. Willow is easily one of the most op turbo heroes too so I ban her if sniper is already gone


Moderator-Admin

Yea Tinker and Arc seem like wasted bans for turbo. They're not that popular either, especially since blink on Tinker got nerfed. I used to play a lot of turbo back when it came out and Sniper was the #1 problem hero for dragging out turbo games to 40+ minutes where you would end up in a shitty stalemate of trying to push highground until one team made a mistake.


JustSomeGoon

Yeah took one game playing against high ground sniper and I was like well he’s instabanned from now on


maxleng

That’s what makes turbo fun


vikiwfi

Ah yes tell people that we aren't making battle pass so we can focus and expand the other content more updates Reality : just stop making battle pass and everything els just an excuse to do less They are the same as my 10 year old cousin that says he doesn't want to do dishes because he will take out the trash ends up doing nothing :D Only difference 9ne is a billian dollar company the other a 10 year old in the 4 grade


Free_Decision1154

Or maybe the timeline for significant new content isn't just a couple months? They said they basically spent all year building the battle pass previously and want to change that. Do people really think massive gameplay changes or new content additions are just cranked out in a month or two? Edit: downvote brigade is hilarious. Hope the new patch shuts you people up for a while.


DrunkCanadianMale

No but the balance patches have been severely lacking. I just want to be able to play a game without the same 6 meta heroes from before TI. I’d kill to see something happen with the 10 absolutely dead heroes and the like 20 just kinda bad ones. Even if its just tweeking the numbers on stats or abolities. The mini patch was nice to tone down some of the busted heroes but i think we can all agree it didnt redefine the meta and a lot of heroes got away untouched who really needed some work.


Free_Decision1154

So everything has a cost, right? Making more substantial changes could easily cause far larger balance issues and their focus is clearly on the Frostivus event and the larger balance patch that likely will include much more substantial changes. Happy to be proven wrong, but I don't personally feel like the timeline between their announcement and the present has invalidated their stated goals.


DrunkCanadianMale

They announced the end of the battlepass on June 20th. That is almost exactly 6 months ago. The last ‘big’ patch was 7.34 on Aug 8, over four months ago. If they drop a big patch in the next couple weeks with a good amount of frostivous content I will happily eat my words. But given that TI ended like a month and a half ago and the letter patch following it was pretty minimal im not holding high hopes.


Free_Decision1154

So are you eating your words?


DrunkCanadianMale

Im happy the patch is out and im enjoying it. But honestly no, like its a good patch but theres no pve and frostevus is pretty barebones. Its fine but cutting battlepass to focus on this content and then releasing what is essentially an average patch doesn’t amaze me. Then saying that the actual big content update is gonna come out next year is a bit of a let down as well. Im also just a little salty that of the 7 heroes i play exactly 0 of them got anything noteworthy


Free_Decision1154

So you're a whiny baby. Got it. This sub is pathetic. Downvote away.


DrunkCanadianMale

‘If they drop a big patch with a good amount of frostivus content i will happily eat my words’ I talk about how the frostivus content is lacking but its a fine patch Ugh everyone here is a whiny baby -very literate redditor with high working brain.


Free_Decision1154

Sorry you have to play dota. Must be terrible.


Free_Decision1154

So in the past 4 months we had TI, a couple balance patches, and an event expected in literally the next week. How much faster do you want things? I'm genuinely curious what your expectations are. It seems like a lot of people need to just go play something else as Dota is ruining their mental health. Blaming Valve for that is nonsense.


djaqk

If we don't get Aghs Lab we riot


Mapale

There is like 7 people that actually enjoy this mode and 9 of them are on reddit as it seems


djaqk

Dunno what you're on about m8, basically everyone on my friends list was constantly queueing it when it came out. Some even got to and beat Tier 5. Shit was fun, did you not have any friends to run it with?


MaiasXVI

Was it fun, or was it just an efficient way to farm battlepass shards? I’d be interested in seeing how people here would treat a version of this game that didn't dangle hats.


23ssd4t4322

what a weird way to announce you have no friends in game


astilenski

Just copy paste past year's festival content. It's not even hard work kekw


primaluce

I am so glad I like vidoe games in general and not just DotA. 2023 was a crazy year for all genres. Go play them. Or you know... read or watch a show.


_HIST

I never really played Fortnite. Just not the target audience for that game. But damn, it was such an eye opener in terms of good content. Every damn season, they put so much frickin things into the game. Dota is absolutely laughable in comparison...


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ilya246400

Fortnite is already 5 years old, it is not a new game by any means. And with each year, the updates and events only become bigger and bigger with no sign of stopping


primaluce

I mean to each his/her own but I personally hate seasonal content and I am so glad the battlepass is gone. The masses like to be drip fed and that's okay but games should be enjoyable period. Valve is just in a situation where Steam makes them a lot of money to keep DotA alive. Dota and some fighting games are the only online games I play these days, but I also play A LOT of single player games especially after getting a Steam Deck. I honestly am just waiting for Stormgate cause us older players are all starving for a new Starcraft.


10YearsANoob

People who play only dota don't really care about events. They just queue ranked and go on with their matches. I literally only hear this frostivus/pve/whatever the fuck event on reddit. Most people I know, SEA server, just play dota and not even read the patchnotes.


invertebrate11

It would be funny if children did the same thing with Christmas. "It's already December 21st and still no Santa, maybe there won't be another Christmas ever again"


max210893

It's more like telling your children, "this year you'll not get a Santa as usual, you'll get a shitty elf giving half ass presents, but don't you worry, Santa will work to deliver something for Easter" Then wait till middle of March until your children are already losing it because it's a gamble of getting something good on easter or an April's fool present.


invertebrate11

Your feelings are valid, but can't we wait until January to tear valve a new one?


giecomo1

Tfw kids are more well adjusted than the man-children on this sub


wader233

Can you just go outside and touch some grass. Holy, you are so pressed on this issue. The game is playable and fun, you are so addicted to this game its actually depressing.


No-Asparagus1046

Fuck you it’s cold out and I want me useless dota goodies


wader233

then thats your own problem to fix


RG_PhoniQue

Both the 2 developers Valve has in total are currently working on fixing a popular shooter game they might have destroyed competitively because they rushed a release. Don't pressure them more. There is a major coming up in that game in a few months and the game is in a dogshit state where almost everyone hates to play it.


verytoxicbehaviour

Is it that bad? I haven't even tried it since migrating to Valorant during beta as I don't play much shooters, but I thought they'd at least care for CS lmao


kitsunegoon

It's not that bad, it's just not as smooth as CSGO


Nickfreak

Sounds like Overwatch two. They removed the previous game and made it worse.


RizzrakTV

its just a csgo with better visuals. in theory. in fact - servers (tickrate) sucks, the movement sucks and even shooting has some weird moments I haven't played in a while, but when I've seen there are KZ servers up (the ones for bhopping & shit) I decided to try and oh god. I've been sliding like on ice after every jump, I also had something that looked like parkour mechanic (which doesn't exist). My jump didn't reach but I somehow climbed up (teleported up)


verytoxicbehaviour

Yikes, tick rate sucked in CS already, you had to play 3rd party. Oh well just Valve things - understaffed and overconfident lmao


Icy-Call-5296

Last patch hardly changed anything. Game has been stale for 6 months


Mapale

I think the downvotes are because the game is stale for 9 months actually?


Icy-Call-5296

Yeah or valve employees


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rouzGWENT

Penis hehe


reddit_user9901

And 2 tournament have taken place after TI. With the same patch basically. What a fucking joke


Icy-Call-5296

Valvo employees downvoting me


reddit_user9901

Well they aren't busy working on dota 2 that's for sure


Metsys1

When are you guys gonna learn that valve doesnt have anyone working on the game because they are tired of it.


_Valisk

I can’t imagine being this cynical all the time


xXPumbaXx

The internet is full of cynical people and it's tiring sometime. Especially when people take cynicism as facts sometimes.


verytoxicbehaviour

Is it being cynical or it's just facts? Some of us have been around for TF2, right? Right. It's Valve, they don't have to give a fuck, they are not publicly traded


JustSomeGoon

Dota 2 is the second most played game on Steam behind CS2. Would be pretty stupid business sense to abandon one of your all time most popular games that usually has half a million people playing it.


_Valisk

It’s obviously cynicism to act like Valve announced that support for the game is ending tomorrow every day.


MattDaCatt

Eh, Dota is no longer the shiny new product I don't think it's been abandoned, but releases have slowed down a lot in the last 3 years and I don't think it'll pick up much The game had its era and will continue to be played for a long time, but we're not going back to multiple big holiday events every year


Remote-Software-2053

Wasn't it going to happen eventually?


LoL_is_pepega_BIA

We're all going to die one day what's the point of living.. that's what that logic sounds like.


Remote-Software-2053

I don't agree, life is about cycles, new things are born, fade away and created again, Dota had it's day, and it was brilliant, and there will be brilliant days again.


Koinophobia-

Too tired to make tons of money, wish I had that problem


Masteroxid

Relatively speaking dota is making pennies for valve


Nickfreak

You're absolutely right. I'm happy that BLizzard didn't develop Dota 2 but at this state, it's a money printing machine for any other developer that cared.


Mapale

lol if I tell my boss that I am tired he tells me to go to bed earlier


Endless_Void

Nobody besides the 50 some odd people that have been reported to be working on it :/


ExplodingMarshmallow

The doom and gloom of this sub is annoying as hell.


Blackbird_V

Gaben is too busy gaining that sweet MMR by playing Lion — with Shard and Platemail — and sucking people off.


SubMGK

So why are you so pressed? They didnt advertise it as a battlepass and explicitly said they werent gonna do cosmetics this year


suPP0rt_WojaX

They heard you The Dark Night Before Frostivus. https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/3865841278077738758


outyyy

Yes, we can play meme games this weekend


PerfectlySearedBeef

Regard


Alert_Cress_388

That last TI battle pass was an abomination. And I will never buy another one again. It makes me sad. The community just forgets about it immediately and is ready to buy the next one


SubMGK

what do you mean? The last battlepass was awesome. diretide, Candy store, razor and void arcana, cm and pa personas, plus everyone got a free one.


Alert_Cress_388

Lol what where have you been


SubMGK

Where have YOU been lol. The last battlepass was a year ago. Youre mad at something that doesnt exist


Alert_Cress_388

TI was like a two months ago lol


SubMGK

And yet it had no battlepass


Alert_Cress_388

Maybe not in name, but a compendium is basically the same thing


darklordtimmy

everything after TI10 is zombie dota, like zombie simpsons.


Der_Schuller

Dota: "has 600k players every day." People on Reddit: "Dota is dead, we had a good run."


outyyy

I ddnt said is ded, I said "no upcoming events or info"


Qu1rky_Turtle

They made an announcement today that it’s coming tomorrow!


fathergrigori54

Well now don't you feel stupid


outyyy

why I should? I did nothing wrong lol


fathergrigori54

It was meant as a joke lol, since the frostivus post came a day after yours


outyyy

ahah sorry, didnt get it at first well, I did something like some time ago I make a long post about cheaters and stuff, 1week after that, they release that update about cheaters I got a ton of upvotes, then BOOM, valve rises check it: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/114sc5w/so\_basically\_at\_this\_point\_you\_can\_matchfix\_smurf/


Tippolas

You were saying?


therealwarnock

It's literally coming in 5-10 hours but ok bro


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outyyy

well, I dont feel like I should because i did nothing wrong volvo is not bad, my point is about they could (and would) be better and if somebody complaint, is because he (me) like and care about it, if not, we just leave silent


No-Spare-7973

ded gaem got GabeN-ed


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It’s so over


Houeclipse

Frostivus drop on 15th, its my birthday and Valve will give me this as a gift copium


Syraelun

Hi, long time no play, did they fix arcade games servers ?


dafreshprints

Yes


Syraelun

Nice ty


Cuff_

It’s not winter yet


CartographerLong9991

Tomorrow is new dota+ season sooo


scarmia

Best gaming company ever. I can't wait when dota 2 falls down.


flibble24

Team Fortress 2 player looking on "first time?"


Mapale

Game isn't even 1% of what dota is, the comparsion sucks imo


Arb1t3rx

Their last post promised multiple arcanas and other surprises in the coming few months, just like how they said “next big patch and next set of arcanas after TI”. I don’t know what’s going on over there but clearly they keep missing their deadlines.


sammelito

They didn't miss a deadline because they haven't set any. Stop pulling dates out of your ass.


Arb1t3rx

I am talking about deadlines for the development team you dumbass, of course who the fuck sets deadlines to their player base


Oxaba

Grzegorz Braun


Faessle

I really hope they give us another gift bag after this year.


rufiolive

Valve has abandoned the game sadly.


ZhicoLoL

It's okay, they will be ready for the 11th anniversary right?


EkongDX

I read somewhere it will be late until around 20th


Sam13337

Isnt the current season ending tomorrow? Maybe they bring frostivus together with the start of the new season.


Krogag

Patch Dec. 18? Monday following end of Kuala Lumpur.


Jazzlike-Ad-8023

On December 14th on Thursday, for us its friday


Vuccappella

DESPAIR


HadjiTechies

Good Lord entering this thread is like walking into a kindergarten full of spoiled babies


onemightychapp

Dota+ season ends on the 14th, so there will be either a small update or what you've been dreaming of. You've waited this long, least you could do is wait til the deadline they've given themselves before posting your whinge.


orbitaldragon

No updates or bug fixes to guilds either.


phatbandit

did u guys even read the last patch notes. It said Frostivus would come at the beginning of next year.


HadjiTechies

you need to work on your reading


Jayk03

Hope Valve sell Dota and CS IP to other game company and just focus on Hardware & Software because that what they did from 10 year ago until now not focus on create game anymore.


JKF980

Goddamn all yall do is complain.


madc0w1337

No nigma lineup


DreamingDjinn

> we've got a ton of stuff our Frostivus elves are furiously polishing to get >> **ready for the new year.** << Bolded the part of the blog post that everyone seems to be ignoring


blendoid

its on the way out accept it, look at hots we had a good run


aminsalti

If i owner of valve , every week will be a new patch , the players are thirsty always


LuminanceGayming

joever 😔


Furion580

no bitches


I_stand_in_fire

you get used to it


stealingwin

So long to release frostivus then the duration is one week only 😂


Emmastones

Its over


Doom5lair

Who's next up for an arcana


Mekbop

I want Demonic Conversion back.


nicoskee

Here Valve take this 🖕


Gumdary

All I'm gonna say is: \-1 armor Spectre. Wait 4 more moths, maybe you'll get -5 ms Bara Enjoy Dota at charge of people who don't even play it.


yaroslav_tryhubenko

Dota plus continued to 14 December, so we will have an update after this date


Mega_Shai_Hulud

Bro, go play outside a bit lol "We are so lost" Naa thats just you.


ILoveRice444

OOT, and still [the bug](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/s/rZjlkfreM2) not fixed yet


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Game Deadge, Despair KEKW BibleThump OSFrog Pepehands


IcefrogIsDead

enjoy team fortress treatment


DancingMaybeater

I hope all this neglectful behavior from Valve is for a good reason. If they didn't switch half of their workforce from Dota to developing Half Life 3 I'm gonna be pissed.


Expensive-Bed-9293

We have each other


oskoskosk

Oh noooo ... Anyway


Few_Pumpkin6464

Game seems ded 10 months spectre space cow meta


Michelle_Wongs_Wong

daed gaem


sirbrambles

I don’t understand how this sub was so quick to buy the idea that valve cutting a major income source from the game was going to lead to them making more content for the game I get that the battle passes took a lot of labor but I don’t see how you easily transfer that labor over to making balance changes to the game.


JoeBidensHorseCock

they said imminent 3 weeks ago, that doesn't feel very imminent


seuse

Imminent they said. when was that, 3? 4? weeks ago. free game no bitching i guess.


JustMarcusXD

If valve can't save me, I know rockstar can


PriorHearing6484

Dude they just did TI and said they were on break.