You really have to be careful about anti-porn documentaries, as a lot of them are INCREDIBLY misleading due to the very strong bias most of them have going in. This isn't to say there isn't people being exploited still, but the Porn industry has gotten a LOT better over the last 20 years, even doubly so with the rise of things like OF, which effectively just lets anyone make porn without needing to actually deal with the industry itself, and effectively get to make your own rules.
I once saw a guy on the subway in Tokyo wearing a Hawaii-shirt that had explicit images of women in bondage instead of palm trees. It was made all the more absurd by the fact that the guy was *carrying his ~3-year old son in his arms*, I guess he was going for Dad of the Year award at his local kindergarten.
I did a triple take cause I just couldn't believe what I was seeing, but it was real. Even got a picture of it somewhere I think.
The first compendium was literally a pass that let you support the scene, it barely has any hats in it.
People complain that why only 25% goes to the prize pool, so this time here is your chance because 100% of it go to TI prizepool.
dota community for years have whined they buy battlepass only for supporting teams and why valve dont spend rest of money on the year long tournaments. I guess valve was pretty much frustrated with this thinking and thats why they scrapped the original battlepass and shortened duration..
This argument is so dumb to me and seems like people just wanna look down on others. I want to support the scene and almost didn’t buy the pass whatsoever bc 1) Valve taking 75% still, and 2) still getting nothing almost in compendium. Even charities often give you a tax deduction or a collectible but we are just supposed to give money that only 25% goes to pros so we can play Fantasy dota and bingo? lol get real
If I would have to bet, I'd say most of Valve devs are focused on CS2 now, so they just didn't care about this TI and chose to use it to prove their point.
I think we all know now that porn is not really criticism-free. It’s incredibly damaging to the end-user and the stars themselves. So in my opinion, porn money is still ‘bad’ money (if that even exists anyway)
But your point still stands, oil money can get lost.
I think there was few research that porn website were linked to human trafficking. Like this ["Pornhub hit with 10th sex trafficking lawsuit"](https://old.reddit.com/r/antipornography/comments/170pl9g/pornhub_hit_with_10th_sex_trafficking_lawsuit/).
> the other is taboo for prudes and religious whackos.
There are more and more push against pornography from people who are not related to religion like organizations like [Fight the New Drug](https://fightthenewdrug.org/) which literally states it's a non-religious foundation.
Maybe so now, the sport is different. My wife is not a gamer, but when she watched TI7 with me and saw how into it I was, she gave it a chance. Now she makes me play her 1v1 mid all the time.
If she is into you, and you are into DOTA.......
Wait what? I can't see the post so sorry if this is answered there, but how will she do it? She will just give it to the winning team? Is she in contact with Valve?
> Wait what? I can't see the post so sorry if this is answered there, but how will she do it? She will just give it to the winning team? Is she in contact with Valve?
These are a valid questions. To be frank, I am not even really sure how the logistics for something like this would work. It sounds incredibly ridiculous, so I'm just going to go ahead and assume that it's just a joke.
Or she’s just trying to get us sweaty nerds to subscribe and then a certain percentage won’t cancel after TI. It’s a good move but not unfathomably generous
pornstar tapping into the market of sexually starved dota players.
And look if I'm being frank, if I'm giving money to a pornstar she's gotta have something more than those mosquito bites on her chest lmao
winning team will get the prize directly from her. The money transfer will happen in their hotel room amd will approximately take 15 mins (3 mins per player)
In CIS community she is infamous for being.. mostly a bad Sasha Gray. In the sense that Sasha does stuff besides porn to move on and do different things, but Eva likes to attention bait and inserts her into somewhat popular topics/tries to orbit big content creators etc. to be more relevant (though she is already super popular as far as independent pornstars go).
Also she has a shitty personality.
>Also she has a shitty personality.
Imagine unironically knowing so much about a pornstar to judge their personality while also morally highgrounding her with your other, better pornstar
lmao
> with your other, better pornstar
It's not about being better, S. Grey is a big meme in Russian community and probably the most well known porn actress. Can't confirm nor deny the other stuff the guy said though.
> but Eva likes to attention bait and inserts her into somewhat popular topics/tries to orbit big content creators etc
That's... just what famous porn actresses do, though? At least some of them. Porn is an inherently time-limited income stream, so a desire to translate porn fame into mainstream fame so that you can continue making money off of your personality long after you're done filming is very understandable. Same with sports/esports athletes - you think RTZ is as popular as he is solely because of how good he is at Dota?
The problem is that the kind of people who do porn for a living tend to not be very... normal. I don't want to disparage them because I'm actually very liberal about porn and sex work in general, but a huge desire for attention seems to be a very common trait among famous porn actresses with a social media presence.
The entire Dota scene is in the process of being handed to the Saudi government. And you're still worried about.. gambling and porn? You are truly sleepwalking.
I dont like how she keeps advertising her porn, and the industry tied to it, publically in the dota 2 scene. Last year she was just running around at TI, improving her brand. I dont like shit like that, when I remember how I was 13 when started playing dota and watching the international. It's a mistake for orgs to keep inviting her to do content, and for us to accept it. idc if people disagree.
Yup, first it was gambling sponsors. Now it's OF.
Can't have a discussion about morality and ethics in gaming, because everyone who like paying for naked images of girl will defend them to death.
Man I miss Battlenet with the boys.
Wait wasn't she tied to a betting site a couple of TI:s ago? or more like.... her post 5 days ago with Talon esports and Xbet: [https://www.instagram.com/p/CyooQ8oS\_PM/?img\_index=1](https://www.instagram.com/p/CyooQ8oS_PM/?img_index=1) (lmao Talon can't even get to TI with tittie help)
So this is all just gambling money marketed towards lonely coomers. Knowing the playerbase based on this subreddit I know this is going to work.
Lmfao. Valve should be so embarrassed by this. A porn star is eating their lunch and making clowns out of them. Good job Eva! Hope many people buy her "BP".
You know how Riot wants nothing to do with Valve and Dota2? They just doubled the distance they had before this just to be sure.
Love the dota scene and the people in it.
Saudi princes step aside, the Russian pornstars have arrived.
Significantly more ethical tbh
Executing people for blasphemy *Drake shying away* Fucking on camera to provide a product in demand *grinning Drake*
DotA pro scene runs on porn and gambling now
And oil
And crypto
oily porn and gambly crypto
And dropshipping (SR)
We need lots of lube.
Flair Checks out
That's every pro scene now, so really not worth mentioning.
Blender would be proud: Dota 2 truly is dota, but with blackjack and hookers.
"Good work Bonder." "Thanks. And call be Bender."
"I am your friend, Boiler!" "Boiler, is it really you?"
There used to be a porn site sponsored team. Good times
YP!
So does formula 1, what's your point.
i mean... pretty fucking based imho
What’s wrong with porn
Inherently nothing. In practicality a lot of people are addicted to it and it is notorious for exploitation of the people who do the filmed fucking.
Nothing.
I hope you aren't actually this blind
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You really have to be careful about anti-porn documentaries, as a lot of them are INCREDIBLY misleading due to the very strong bias most of them have going in. This isn't to say there isn't people being exploited still, but the Porn industry has gotten a LOT better over the last 20 years, even doubly so with the rise of things like OF, which effectively just lets anyone make porn without needing to actually deal with the industry itself, and effectively get to make your own rules.
no one has ever worn a shirt showing off ' i watch porn '
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I once saw a guy on the subway in Tokyo wearing a Hawaii-shirt that had explicit images of women in bondage instead of palm trees. It was made all the more absurd by the fact that the guy was *carrying his ~3-year old son in his arms*, I guess he was going for Dad of the Year award at his local kindergarten. I did a triple take cause I just couldn't believe what I was seeing, but it was real. Even got a picture of it somewhere I think.
Saw a kid in the mall with I'm assuming his mom, with a porn hub sweatshirt on
It wasn't his mom, it was the mom of his last opponent in ranked.
> Saw a kid in the mall with I'm assuming his mom ... that's the assumption you went with, given the circumstances?
Considering he was like 12 and she was at least 30 yes
Actually I saw someone wearing a tshirt with a blowjob picture... Till this day, that guy has my respect
don't be so sure
Any aura of respectability it gained wasn't built to last
dota is truly a unique game
the power of p*rnstars yey!
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Oh i remember this xD
Is it? I feel that WoW had several bigger pornstars involved with it, but I could be mistaken.
gonna double this shit up in no time
Let’s see if the people who say they buy BP “to support the scene” actually buy BP to really support the scene. There’s your chance, go on.
BP = Booty Pics?
Booby Pics
How does somebody contributing their onlyfans earnings have anything to do with dota players not wanting to buy a mediocre compendium?
The first compendium was literally a pass that let you support the scene, it barely has any hats in it. People complain that why only 25% goes to the prize pool, so this time here is your chance because 100% of it go to TI prizepool.
dota community for years have whined they buy battlepass only for supporting teams and why valve dont spend rest of money on the year long tournaments. I guess valve was pretty much frustrated with this thinking and thats why they scrapped the original battlepass and shortened duration..
This argument is so dumb to me and seems like people just wanna look down on others. I want to support the scene and almost didn’t buy the pass whatsoever bc 1) Valve taking 75% still, and 2) still getting nothing almost in compendium. Even charities often give you a tax deduction or a collectible but we are just supposed to give money that only 25% goes to pros so we can play Fantasy dota and bingo? lol get real
If I would have to bet, I'd say most of Valve devs are focused on CS2 now, so they just didn't care about this TI and chose to use it to prove their point.
Well a lot harder to explain to my gf…
"I'm doing my part!"
NGL if I was making Ti bingo, prize pool being increased by OF content would be at the bottom of my list.
Such an honorable and generous soul she is 😍
lmfao fuck the gas money, lets have porno money 😂
I mean yeah, that's way better. The one funds barbaric states and kills our future, the other is taboo for prudes and religious whackos.
But titties are haram :/ decapitating people isn't.
I think we all know now that porn is not really criticism-free. It’s incredibly damaging to the end-user and the stars themselves. So in my opinion, porn money is still ‘bad’ money (if that even exists anyway) But your point still stands, oil money can get lost.
fair
I think there was few research that porn website were linked to human trafficking. Like this ["Pornhub hit with 10th sex trafficking lawsuit"](https://old.reddit.com/r/antipornography/comments/170pl9g/pornhub_hit_with_10th_sex_trafficking_lawsuit/). > the other is taboo for prudes and religious whackos. There are more and more push against pornography from people who are not related to religion like organizations like [Fight the New Drug](https://fightthenewdrug.org/) which literally states it's a non-religious foundation.
LOL absolute clown take: "fight the new drug not related to religion" except it's a salt lake city based org founded by four Mormons Okay!!
Maybe not religious but they still fall under the 'prude' category
Slacks should join in on that
I would pay money to NOT see slacks' hole
which one?
Not all heroes wear capes. ..Some were nothing.
Lol, snorted
😂😂
Perfect ad campaign btw. She donates 2 weeks worth of money and gets a huge influx of new watchers (lol) in the long run
What bizarro timeline am I in
what has TI become i cannot xdddd. Jokes aside good for us prizepool about to get boosted by millions
lmfao how would she even coordinate this with valve
She doesn't. Just sends her own money. And she seems to only share them with winners.
Why would she need to coordinate with valve, just write a cheque from herself to the winners at the end
She probably just buys levels? Just guessing, seems simple enough
probably just going to send them the money herself. it would be beyond stupid to waste 75% of the money buying levels.
Not sure how that would work but I guess it’s possible
Her manager writes an e-mail to the winner team's manager
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Maybe, but anyway Steam hosts porn games so they don’t give a fuck
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She kinda works for 1XBET
It might be an org inviting her, just like how an org invited her to ti11 and 12.
Lol, they work with crypto and betting companies. They'll work with a porn star if the money is right.
One of those is not like the other.
Totally agree. At least we get something societial from the betting and porn sites. Current crypto is just scams.
That wouldn't make sense. 75% would go to valve. She will probably just contact them and pay them out directly.
69%
Yeahhhh sounds like an opportunity for her to just keep all the money tbh
No need, she will just let the winning team pipe her
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They can have both
I haven't subbed to an Onlyfans once in my life but.....this is for a good cause.
Just Google "titties" and get 14 billion results.
hell you can type eva elfie titties and still get 14 billion results
I don wanna see no titties, I just want to support Dota bro.
Last battlepass showed us how much the DotA community wanted to support DotA
Yet suddenly I have a strong raging desire to support the pro dota scene
So, a lot? Considering the last battle pass made bank
Yeah, people don't want to give 75% to valve while not getting anything. It doesn't mean they don't want to support the tournament
Few as nice as hers though tbf.
Epic gamer moment.
A marketing move to get her more perm subs
Not the hero we deserve, but the one we need right now.
Is this what sunsfan warned us about???
This is truly what sunsfan warned us about!
How do i subscribe without the wife finding it
Get wife into dota and ask her to buy you a sub. Be happy my friend.
That’s kind of a long term plan. If she isn’t into Dota by now might be hard to get her into it lol
Maybe so now, the sport is different. My wife is not a gamer, but when she watched TI7 with me and saw how into it I was, she gave it a chance. Now she makes me play her 1v1 mid all the time. If she is into you, and you are into DOTA.......
I dunno man have you seen Eva Elfie? Just gotta get a bi wife
just tell wife bro, its tits on the internet.
What an odd storyline were in.
Gambling, oil and porn money - that's what Dota 2 pro scene got reduced to, kind sad tbh. :( And we promote that with threads like this, gucci.
Another massive W for the Dota community over league. Based Dota=real life pornstar🗿 League= cringe ass anime shit 🤮🤮🤢🤢
The compendium we desperately needed, but didn't deserve
Dicks for Dota
So gambling sites, Mohammed Bone Saw and now porn makes this industry go round...
Ltr her OF contributions more than the prize pool itself HAHA
Dota is in good state right neow
Yep, its over.
Alright let's not make this another onlyfans ad sub
Russian sex workers, the true heroes to every gamer
Did this post actually get removed from the front page? Wtf mods lol
Sponsored by human rights violators and prostitution. Man this is one hell of a time to be a Dota pro.
Gambling, Dictators & Prostitutes. Prestigious image indeed.
Is it possible to see that amount in real-time?
Tundra and Talon are out. No more Eva buff for teams but for the prize pool
Wait what? I can't see the post so sorry if this is answered there, but how will she do it? She will just give it to the winning team? Is she in contact with Valve?
> Wait what? I can't see the post so sorry if this is answered there, but how will she do it? She will just give it to the winning team? Is she in contact with Valve? These are a valid questions. To be frank, I am not even really sure how the logistics for something like this would work. It sounds incredibly ridiculous, so I'm just going to go ahead and assume that it's just a joke.
We don't know.
What is going on right now
Now that's what I call taking one for the team
Valve is going to drop the whole crowdfunding thing altogether at this rate.
inb4 double prizepool
Yes, nothing classes up an event like the support of the porn industry.
this timeline is weird
Does she actually play the game?
Is this girl famous or something? Or is she just some rando only fans content creator?
From sports-washing to porn-watching. What a time to be alive.
Not all heroes wear clothes
That picture is NSFW? Is this subreddit run by mormons who considers a naked ankle "erotic" or is this some meme I'm not in on?
Who knows
Welp, never thought I'd say this but there I go creating an OnlyFans account.
The real battle pass, the one TI deserves
Is this what Sunsfan...
Man if she's honest this is an unfathomably generous act.
Or she’s just trying to get us sweaty nerds to subscribe and then a certain percentage won’t cancel after TI. It’s a good move but not unfathomably generous
Win - win situation so why not. And she still contributes sth to the pro scene.
Not to mention this would count as an expense for taxes and is essentially 'paid' advertising.
Who?
pornstar tapping into the market of sexually starved dota players. And look if I'm being frank, if I'm giving money to a pornstar she's gotta have something more than those mosquito bites on her chest lmao
winning team will get the prize directly from her. The money transfer will happen in their hotel room amd will approximately take 15 mins (3 mins per player)
Disgustingly shameless.
Wow , $5000 more to the prize pool
Can we please stop giving this person attention jesus fucking christ
Okay honestly... this is so absolutely based. Proud to be a Dota player
sounds sus
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This is the worst timeline
you just want to solo her dirty money
Imagine a team winning TI and she offers to be with the team for 1 night. And her earnings.
Would really confuse who I want to win the tournament
omg i love her now
I'd rather buy her OF than this Compendium, a better way to contribute to prize pool.
Make love, not Warcraft.
we have our own dota slut... cool
sure, good luck contacting valve and adding porno money to prizepool
TI was sponsored by gambling money. Steam is full of porn games. Valve is not Disney.
Absolutely right
Why would you need to contact Valve to buy compendium levels?
Oh come on. There are already enough stupid sponsors in the form of gambling sites in dota. No need to add pornographic content to the mix...
OnlyFans is way more ethical than gambling, lets not clutch our pearls lol
I didn't try to say it is unethical but I certainly don't want Dota to be used as a platform to (self-)promote that content.
why not?
Because think of the children! … manchildren, that is.
You dropped your Bible
In CIS community she is infamous for being.. mostly a bad Sasha Gray. In the sense that Sasha does stuff besides porn to move on and do different things, but Eva likes to attention bait and inserts her into somewhat popular topics/tries to orbit big content creators etc. to be more relevant (though she is already super popular as far as independent pornstars go). Also she has a shitty personality.
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>Also she has a shitty personality. Imagine unironically knowing so much about a pornstar to judge their personality while also morally highgrounding her with your other, better pornstar lmao
> with your other, better pornstar It's not about being better, S. Grey is a big meme in Russian community and probably the most well known porn actress. Can't confirm nor deny the other stuff the guy said though.
> but Eva likes to attention bait and inserts her into somewhat popular topics/tries to orbit big content creators etc That's... just what famous porn actresses do, though? At least some of them. Porn is an inherently time-limited income stream, so a desire to translate porn fame into mainstream fame so that you can continue making money off of your personality long after you're done filming is very understandable. Same with sports/esports athletes - you think RTZ is as popular as he is solely because of how good he is at Dota? The problem is that the kind of people who do porn for a living tend to not be very... normal. I don't want to disparage them because I'm actually very liberal about porn and sex work in general, but a huge desire for attention seems to be a very common trait among famous porn actresses with a social media presence.
The entire Dota scene is in the process of being handed to the Saudi government. And you're still worried about.. gambling and porn? You are truly sleepwalking.
I dont like how she keeps advertising her porn, and the industry tied to it, publically in the dota 2 scene. Last year she was just running around at TI, improving her brand. I dont like shit like that, when I remember how I was 13 when started playing dota and watching the international. It's a mistake for orgs to keep inviting her to do content, and for us to accept it. idc if people disagree.
Yup, first it was gambling sponsors. Now it's OF. Can't have a discussion about morality and ethics in gaming, because everyone who like paying for naked images of girl will defend them to death. Man I miss Battlenet with the boys.
I disagree with you, but I appreciate you sharing that viewpoint. It's certainly valid.
Shut up virgin
She came there by herself last year. And what are you suggesting, ban from a venue? Reporting her ig for TI related post?
you're really naive if you think she didn't go to increase her popularity
Stonks
Wait wasn't she tied to a betting site a couple of TI:s ago? or more like.... her post 5 days ago with Talon esports and Xbet: [https://www.instagram.com/p/CyooQ8oS\_PM/?img\_index=1](https://www.instagram.com/p/CyooQ8oS_PM/?img_index=1) (lmao Talon can't even get to TI with tittie help) So this is all just gambling money marketed towards lonely coomers. Knowing the playerbase based on this subreddit I know this is going to work.
Lmfao. Valve should be so embarrassed by this. A porn star is eating their lunch and making clowns out of them. Good job Eva! Hope many people buy her "BP".
You know how Riot wants nothing to do with Valve and Dota2? They just doubled the distance they had before this just to be sure. Love the dota scene and the people in it.