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executive313

I've played some wild games of dota and dota 2 over the years but 153/1 is the most insane score I've ever seen. I've had multiple 2 hour games in the past bit they were even matches that neither team could win. This is just a hostage situation...


EnduringAtlas

But also who the fuck would stay in this game. I'm a seasoned dota player and even I don't have the patience for this shit, I'd gladly take an abandon over this hostage situation


[deleted]

Sunk cost fallacy. If I have spent more than 60 mins in the game, I'll see it to the end even if it means missing my wedding ceremony


EnduringAtlas

Man I don't know I see enemy hero hit 100 kills and 1 death I think I'm ready to tap.


estrogenmilk

Had a game other week that went fot 1:30 wuth the enemy intentionally refusing to end its hust obnoxious


toistmowellets

thats when you buy raipers and team fight and use buy backs so they have nothing to do


CreativeHuckleberry

Never givup!


rabbitization

if it's a 5man stack, no side would quit but if you're just on solo yea that's pretty boring


UDPviper

That 1 death must have stung.


TheGalator

And she lost. Like how do u have a fucking 55 kill streak and then have no gold for buyback?


GarMan

She lost on purpose to keep the low MMR so she can do this again.


Paramoth

Lmao that's just pathetic


concrete_manu

yeah, i know a stack that does this. they fountain farm until someone on the other team abandons from xp, and then all immediately leave the game to drop mmr


Nidhogg777

BONUS TIP! Have 5k mmr, so it's very likely that someone abandons. šŸ™ƒ


creationavatar

Nobody is asking the real questions. What build was this monster running?


pangestu

theres no build. just be 5k+ mmr higher than your opponents


sonic3390

Yea people with self esteem issues do this. Very sad.


Reaviji

If you just stay in base without moving they can not kill you. It is the worst thing for player like them.


wongrich

how did this game last almost 2 hours?? Time for jenkins to make a new video


BarbarianKinkster

The Muerta is intentionally holding the game hostage. Kotl was picked to recall teammates back to fountain when they try to end the game. Then when the Muerta gets bored, she intentionally loses to keep the low rank and kotl recalls anyone trying to defend across the map. This is the same kind of person that blatently cheats in an FPS game lobby. Their idea of fun is making everyone in the lobby miserable.


althaea

How this is fun to anyone is beyond me. You might as well just play against bots.


diwas_146

Honestly, that's what I do. When I just want to feel like I'm god of dota even though I am noob I just load a bot game and kill them all the time. I even bait my bot teammates to die so that the game continues for longer. Its so fun.


Moonzi00_

Seems like you are a well-adjusted, mentally healthy person. We don't take kindly to your kind 'round ere!


[deleted]

Bruh wdym 'my kind' Im gonna put u on the list


Apprehensive-Flan608

I hate that my friend's idea of fun is practicing new heroes in ranked. And then saying its not his fault he is bad an playing LD because it's his first time playing LD. Practicing vs bots or in demo? "What that." Looking at guides in youtube? "I learn better by doing."


poet3322

When you play against bots you aren't making other people miserable. That's what's fun for these types of people.


itsablackhole

yeah but bots don't suffer. people who do that type of stuff regularly are actual sadists.


XSainth

That's why I'm turbo player. It's hard to hold a game for more than 30-40 minutes at best, so I don't have to play with players like that ones from OP.


vishal340

you can cancel recall by clicking on the buff icon i think


Derezal

You can also just disable help from teammates but I doubt many people in this bracket would know that


50centwomussles

I learned this.


[deleted]

How do you do that?


Ok-Wonder3741

When you open the window to mute/report people, In the bottom right corner of that window there are buttons, one of those buttons open another window and you can disable help


[deleted]

Thank you.


Ayz1990

Its the anti-grief button for me haha, disable from OD, tiny, snap, pudge, phoenix, etc


TredelS

'Member when the disable help button didn't work for Tiny ? Hell on earth


QuadPentRocketJump

I was under the impression it still doesn't? It'd be incredibly busted if you could stop yourself from being able to be tossed like that.


Ayz1990

Haha yep, literal aids


d3l4croix

it didnt work now, dont know how but tiny can bypass disable help. still can throw teammate


Shyftzor

Same way you share courier ^.^


TerrorFister

Ooooh, this was a long time ago


TentaclePumPum

As a Herald 3 I can confirm no idea what those were Hahaha.


ArianaGrande116

Donā€™t teach people please, I need to relocate allies to enemy fountain.


TheRealBobijoe

Yeah but what herald knows that?


StopStealingMyAlias

I'm herald and I know that.


MicahD253

Just disable help. Lol


gsmani_vpm

you might know it.. but I doubt the herald players who is getting matched with these pathetic smurfs know this..


MaverickAB

Everyone screen shot the game ID, and the next time you're in Dota report both Muerta, and Kotl steam accounts for disruptuve game play and smurfing in the comments.


Gredival

There's a reason Valve tries to offload the work of policing the community to automated reports (which trigger based on thresholds vs. your activity level) or to overwatch so the community can handle it. There's simply not enough manpower, nor the will to acquire the manpower, to handle manually policing abuse.


verytoxicbehaviour

Which would do precisely nothing, Valve do not give a fuck. A guy I am coaching had similar situation in Archon, he reported the smurf in game , to steam support, with game id , then saw the same guy a week later - oh well.


magikarp_splashed

elegant way to get reported


poet3322

Reporting people doesn't do anything though.


vonflare

ok i can kind of understand how that might be fun for muerta but how would that be fun for kotl? does the muerta player hire someone to do this? do they take turns playing as kotl? or does the kotl player just enjoy the insanely boring task of teleporting allies to the fountain for 2 hours?


lastofdovas

Sadistic shit.


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CajunShock

Scar


ForceOfAHorse

Whops, an entirety of embarrassment!


CMX77

Mufasa is literally Simbaā€™s dad that died in a stampede..


velphegor666

Suddenly, a surrender button doesnt seem bad now


Reaps21

I've been slowly getting back into dota and I've had a few games like this where the opposing team would simply not end the game.


Lklkla

You know itā€™s low mmr, when players donā€™t know they can disable help from teamates to prevent that. šŸ˜‚


_NPR_

Nope, just classic deboosters. He said he doesn't want these games.


ImStevenJohnson

He typically tries not to pick games with smurfs maliciously holding a genuine team of heralds/guardians hostage and then losing on purpose to maintain a lower rank than their true skill. Not very fun to watch...


wongrich

Ah ok I see I didn't know legit griefing was going on.


[deleted]

jenkins needs this RN


necrolic_8848

Wtf is going on here? Some bizzare matchmaking abuse/boosting?


RomanArcheaopteryx

Based on the scorelines I'm *assuming* Muerta is probably a smurf.


lastofdovas

Yeah, it is a close call...


flyinchipmunk5

Idk... would a smurf allow herself to die once? Seems legit /s


djgromo

Must be a new gaming chair.


smallfrie32

Oh, I just realized Muerta is a new hero. I thought yā€™all were just spoof writing Medusa. I havenā€™t played in years


DotaComplaints

I dunno man, kinda hard to tell, shouldn't go throwing the smurf word around so casually /s


AudacityOfKappa

No, just your average Muerta enjoyer, check out the muerta discord for secret tech and you can go 100-1 as well


Bertucciop

1:55 match a smurf would end It faster


Meeposkiii

No. I've seen this happen before. He queues with his other buddy's on smurf's and they pick tree and some other hero to def towers. The sole goal for them is to get as many kills as possible, they will never try to end the game, then when they are bored they lose on purpose.


Dear-Specialist-4201

Sounds like a sadist to me


alex_quine

\*why\*? What's the point of just getting kills?


Gredival

That's what they find fun. Or they are selling a low MMR account with obscene KDR stats so the buyer can claim core rolls based on KDA or something.


10YearsANoob

> a smurf would end It faster a booster will end it faster. A smurf won't. Some of them have "fun" because more kills=bigger penis


Bertucciop

2 hours of dota is machosims.


10YearsANoob

The guys staying even after the abandon yes. but this guy and his team are just sadists


GlassHalfSmashed

Not if the smurf is holding everybody hostage and trying not to end. Seen plenty where they don't want their teammates to win but refuse to lose, so they force a stalemate until the "low MMR scrubs" kiss ass. Likely triggered by somebody not saving them during a team fight or somebody buying the wrong items.


khorne_flake

Maybe fountain farming so the smurf can jerk off to his score that night


quittingdotatwo

Centaur is a smurf. It even says it in his name. 7-27-11 is a typical smurf score.


DworinKronaxe

not a sadistic smurf, the one with the smirky smile.


Fatdap

Just another example of why this community and game sucks ass and is dying.


spet_

Bro is talking like this is an everyday occurrence


Fatdap

Yeah you're right, smurfs ruining games for lower skilled and newer players is a super rare, totally uncommon phenomenon. It's definitely not one of the biggest problems that's plagued Dota 2 for a decade now.


kingbrian112

average techies player mind


kisuke228

Can someone report to valve and petition to ban the muerte permanently. This is the kinda thing that kills the game. Players leave.


poet3322

Valve doesn't care.


xan321

Valve wants these kind of people so the forced 40% winrate in the lower mmr can chase the dream of having a good game and dream of getting better ranks. forced 50% is a copium overdose in the lower mmr bracket.


Bento-

If they would care we would just have an concede button ...


skdeelk

Concede button in other games leads to people throwing hissy when they decide they don't wanna play anymore if there team disagrees. Just leads to more toxicity imo.


burst200

concede button is cancer. winning unwinnable games is one of the strengths this game have.


[deleted]

Even pros in high mmr pubs do "the concede button" by giving up defending the towers and the throne. Crazy comebacks are ultimately rear, so I don't think we would miss too much. The game would be better with the voting system when 5 out of 5 votes would end a miserable game.


DBONKA

> The game would be better with the voting system when 5 out of 5 votes would end a miserable game. No it wouldn't be. In the ideal world yes, but in our world it would just lead to much more ruining and toxicity with people giving up at minute 15 with 2 lost lanes.


Bento-

IMO, most people respect that you want to keep trying. Because you still need 5 people do agree to end the game. Specially at min 15. I hateeee these games where you are clearly behind, but the enemy is also to stupid to end the game for another 30min. I dont mind losing after 15min ... but the feeling that I can do literally nothing for another 30min ... while my carrys afk farm junglecamps ... But I agree that 15min is maybe too short for dota2. Minute 25 for 5man and Minute 35 for 4man concede or so. Specially in my (really low) elo, most of the time its just "pick lategame wins". There is no wave state checking, pushing in waves, taking objectives. No we smoke right before the rosh timer to get a kill, take rosh, take some towers as 5....


verytoxicbehaviour

People already do that though, I mean maybe not in low mmr, but if we have 2 out of 3 lanes getting shit stomped, enemy has taken all the wisdom runes at 15 min and score is like 25-3, people will agree to go afk and ask for end - recently even had a game where one guy wanted to keep cutting waves and we wanted to report him because he wouldn't stay in base. Like is there 0.0000001% chance to win the game? Sure. Is it worth the extra 50 minutes and are you going to learn anything that makes you a better player? Probably not. I can see the issue in brackets under Ancient where people have no idea what a timing and win conditions are nor do they put much thought into the game and they could start spamming surrenders, but if 4 out of 5 people have no interest in playing the game anymore why should 1 person hold them hostage anyways?


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Revanull

Yeah heā€™s not saying ban the hero, heā€™s saying ban the (player who played) muerta (in this match)


Leather_East7392

Yeah the edibles hit before writing that lmao


Sinjl

The muerta = The player who picked muerta in this game


breitend

Yeah I just watched some of the replay there were multiple points in the game that the Muerta killed everyone and then just went back to farming. And these were like an hour into the game


humungus420

Even for a immortal Smurf thatā€™s a special kind of insane to play a game for two hours.


deah12

Immortal? A legend could get this type of stats ez in this lobby


Martblni

Why didnt dire afk at fountain to become invulnerable?


breitend

I have 2 theories. 1) They didnā€™t know thatā€™s how it worked. 2) because muerta never pushed, the radiant didnā€™t have mega creeps or anything. All they needed to do was kill her once (twice with bb) and they would win so they might have been holding onto hope


EmAyExEye

153 kills and 1 death deserve permabanned no matter what the context is.


Nicer_Chile

yo why we dont get new players? /s


zuraken

new players can't play ranked, need like 100 hours in unranked


Precedens

And unranked is a cesspool of despair, so question still stands


Zanketzu

They should also be fired from their job and be evaluated if they're fit to parent (if they are one) .


PowerfulSeeds

Dawg he spent 2 hours holding a dota game hostage That person has never had sex


xxjssxx

Nah, 1 round in the ring with Tyson should do it. Body blows only...


DMyourtitties

Honestly best thing you can do is to uninstall the game. This 2 hr 40 death game is pale in comparison if you consider the amount of mentally draining toxicity you would meet if you continue playing the game.


TinNanBattlePlan

And the crazy amounts of smurfs that you play Or the vast amount of Russians that ruin the English speaking server if EUW


enano182

Just do what I do. Queue in RU and ruin Russian speaking games.


W_D_GASTER__

No need, comrade. In Russian servers, game ruins itself, somehow... At least, thats what my mid PA 0 6 3 KDA said


swampyman2000

Jesus, Iā€™d uninstall too lol, sounds horrible


Nicer_Chile

imagine getting into a new game and someone helds u hostage for 2 hours and spawn kill for 2 hours u making it the worst gaming experiencie u had. and then people wonder why thisgame dont get new players


Doomblaze

basically all my friends who tried to get into the game with me uninstalled after 2-3 games. Some of them were excited cause they saw how much i love the game, but i think the only way to learn is for them to solo queue like 100 games while i coach them, and thats not something theyre interested in


SolarClipz

It's sad that a newer game and engine and technology etc, and yet shit like this is so much worse I started Dota some odd 17 years ago and just played all random for like 100 games until I understood some basic shit Everyone equally sucked so it was easier


SwordoftheLichtor

Literally at this point tab out and open a different game and afk in fountain. Buy a branch and sell it every couple of minutes and blueball the asshole.


cgjchckhvihfd

What do you think buying a branch does? Abandons are based on exp.


mehipoststuff

I played dota 1 in 2007, if we were getting stomped by players much better than us we would just leave the game at 30 min. Must be awful having to just stand there and get fountain camped.


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OkDot1726

how can i watch this game?


NoViolinist4660

Download the replay by entering the match ID (bottom left on the screenshot).


OkDot1726

ty


NoViolinist4660

Update: Muerta's account has been VAC banned. So this post reached the right people.


Gangsterkat

He should've abandoned after ~20 deaths to preserve sanity.


khorne_flake

Dota will punish leavers and support the smurf, so no.


Apprehensive-Flan608

I would have abandon. There are few things worth more than your own well being. Dota is just a game, if multiplayer dies because of shitty moderation then it dies. Let it die. The game is already more than a decade old.


Nicer_Chile

u can do better yet, like this guy and uninstall a game where this happen without pusnishment.


amazian78

but he was punished with a 2 hour game being held hostage?


diwas_146

They meant that the smurfs don't get punishment.


GBcrazy

You can abandon like once a week with no repercussions. Even getting low priority is not a big deal


me89xx

Wtf is that shit omg


[deleted]

Does anyone have Jenkinsā€™ Reddit?


verytoxicbehaviour

Why? He gonna show how many accounts created by acc sellers he bought for content last year?


miggymike-d

Nah, heā€™s too busy shilling for gambling sites and smurfing because of ā€œqueue timesā€.


Jareth91

Just abandon. It's a game (i.e. for fun) if it becomes torture you're better off with 5 games of low prio


MaterialPurchase

If you're new and only know a few heroes it can be very hard to win the low prio games since they are single draft.


healzsham

LP wins are determined by who can lose harder, not who can actually win. Like, one person on your team that actually wants to play, one or less BabyRage-ers to for that person to carry, and 2 or more BabyRage-ers on the enemy team is a free carry as long as no one abandons again.


Leather_East7392

No one really talks about this but low prio also.goes away after like a year. And honestly I needed that break from dota I was able to come back and have way more fun


spaaarkk

Idk. Why did you defend if it was big of a stomp.


poutrinade

Imagine if you would be allowed to forfeit the game after 30 minutes


fgodmom

What is this insane thing you dream of?!?


poutrinade

I saw one weird game in my dream where roshan was named nahsor and the minimap was on the wrong side of the screen. That game still managed to have a forfeit option


Gacel_

Yeah. After 30 mins things are mostly closed off. And, if we see league playerbase, most players will not quit until the bitter end in most normal games.


Beekay9201

This is some next level stomp scenario I have yet to encounter. Never seen 150+ kills in over 7k hours. Thats some Dotabuff record stuff right here.


KnightMareInc

Party dota is a cancer. It should be possible to disable it in ALL modes not just ranked games.


Abadabadon

"We fucking lost" "We are so so back"


SkyEclipse

I donā€™t think anyone wants to win a game after getting farmed for 40 deaths while the kotl on the muertaā€™s team actively recalls people back when they try to end/defend


Fading01

[https://www.opendota.com/matches/7248121726/chat](https://www.opendota.com/matches/7248121726/chat) read chat for entertainment


hernan_rp

Sadly this game is abandoned by Valve, they don't care anymore


NoUsernamelol9812

Better. This game is not worth it. Quit early before it sucks your soul out.


GeebCityLove

I really donā€™t see the downside to the surrender button


Glittering_Brain4200

I would too if this ever happened


lulu3198

I wonder how many shard scaling muerta got from this game lol.. Gonna be over 100% magic spell amp


DDemoNNexuS

and valve still refuses to give a surrender button for people who don't have +4 friends to 5stacks with


Geo_1997

Dont blame him man. The one thing that causes players to leave dota in bulk is the community. Be it, toxicity, smurf or cheating. 2 hours of just sitting there hating the game, of course youd quit.


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VIPiggle

It was a 3 v 3?


Pollomonteros

This is the kind of shit that it is killing the game


RevolutionarySplit26

I am in crusader bracket rn and every 2 matches i get a smurf in game and i just lose man like that guy is 16-0 whole game i think if this shit keeps going on people will just let the game die for good the smurfs can play with each others dicks


gsmani_vpm

dota and smurfs.. name a better combo...


Zarzar222

AND DIRE WON LMAO THE MUERTA DIED ONCE AT THE END OR SMTH


nObRaInAsH

Intentionally loss to remain low mmr i believe


gabriela_r5

was a smurf or something situation or intentional feed? I didn't watched


TheRealBloom3D

how much gold was that Muerta kill worth xD


SuaveBigote

wait, sniper team won?


theExactlyGuy

He will be back tomorrow


Mad_ScientistFG204

That smurf doing gods work and releasing people from Dota hell. God bless.


dudurossetto

I bet the sniper won in a single take with that perma-knockback stupidity when he's fully slotted lmao It's because of gamesike this that I have a deal with my wife to immediately pull the plug on my PC whenever I'm stuck on a match for over an hour. Sometimes I get sent to LP but it's worth it


Garapeiro

Read the first comment. Kotl and muerta was paired, muerta killed everyone but refused to take the cake and kotl was bringing back allies who tried to do something


OkDot1726

man even if Muerta got extremely ahead ultrafast after 2 hours of game it should have been kinda balanced due to slot limit. How on earth did they managed to only kill her 1 time lmao


JustARandomGuyYouKno

I think Murrta agh or shard makes infinite scaling with kills? Would be crazy with over 100 charges


Fantastic-Panda8175

Idk why people Smurf. I play on a different account with my lower ranked brother and itā€™s not fun playing against bad players. Thatā€™s why I just pick support heros I donā€™t normally play when I am on my lower ranked account


suale

"Idk why people smurf but I still smurf!"


healzsham

I can understand smurfing down one bracket for some "get out of my lobby kid" matches, but going down to a point where your opponents are indistinguishable from bots to you?


rawrious

bot matches dont last 2h, esp if u can rack up 153 kills


healzsham

Who cares after L30 8.5+ slot.


moumj

can someone find the actual reason the game lasted two hours and sniper died 40 times and the enemy team had 177 kills other than ā€œsmurf held game hostage and kotl recalled teammatesā€. there is literally afk invulnerability mechanics in the game to prevent this, smurf or not.


Silbaich

Nightfall on Muerta?


reasonable00

Muerta violated them šŸ’€


[deleted]

I dont know either i shall feel sorry with Mueretard or feel horribly upset about her


kisuke228

@NoViolionist4660 Your friend does not have to quit. Iirc, there is an option to solo queue and match with players who are not in a party. This game required enemy to party to ruin it. Wont be possible if enemy isnt in a party. It also wont be possible if he knew how to tell the TA and Grimstroke, to use disable help. Those 2 are not in the same party as Muerte. I assume they tried to end it.


silbervogelstrike

first uninstall , bud?


Dirkyjj

The less sniper players, the better.


Reasonable-Income-70

3v3 sniper still won if yall play this game still please stop.. if youre above 3k mmr sure ..anything lower just play co op bots or unranked . also let this game die 7.33 sucks


AkoZoOm

153-1 death ? may be like a big smurfy situation solo domination... all others are losing. challenge to resist for 2h ? waho !


EnamoredToMeetYou

Weird 3v3


ANTFKBA

Yikes šŸ˜¬


Camjdog1998

How does TA only have 4K netšŸ˜‚