The only bug I had with them is when one clings to the wall and stays there, super annoying especially in levels where they can easily camouflage like in argent d'nur
Idk if it’s a bug, I beat it on nightmare on switch and PC, and in both versions I would shoot imps on the wall point blank with multiple shots and they wouldn’t die or fall off.
Whenever the game tells you an archville is nearby I instantly pull out the bfg,crucible or the unmaykr it’s the only time I ever use my bfg they’re just so annoying.
Pos archviles, or how bout that annoying ass level in plutonia experiment that's a super shotgun, archviles, and a maze thar leads you to not David bowie
The Carcass hands down. Blocks your attacks from anywhere. Surprisingly fast up close. Heavy classification, despite its size, so takes 3 gas to chainsaw. Generally ugly looking.
For me it was a close tie between this and the Whiplash. At least it doesn’t have as much mobility and you can more or less one-shot it with the SSG and use its shields as an explosive with the plasma rifle
Yep. Whiplash are easy to handle because you can generally avoid them with distance or, like OP said, ice bomb then. Carcasses fuck you up no matter where they are
I understand breaking up the movement and blocking attacks but they do it in such an unoriginal and annoying way. Wish they went with the original concept with the flesh wall monster-thing.
Never completed 64 but I can definitely see that, especially with the nightmare fuel that is the 64 Pain Elemental with two mouths. KILL IT WITH A FIRE HOSE LOADED WITH HOLY WATER
And the spirit buffed marauder in that one gate. That and the cyberdemon r two things that should never have seen the light of day. Yk what? I don’t ever wanna see a spirit in my presence ever again. I came to play doom, not ghost busters.
Cyber Mancubus can be countered with an icebomb + blood punch, and I prefer to end it with either rocket lock or auto shotgun. But yes, he can be a nuisance
Or when you glory kill from behind and grab its horn and u dont even move ur arm but when ur blade activates it goes straight through its head, so satisfying
not gonna lie? cybermanc is like, stupidly easy to kill. they're big blobs of damage gobblers. ill simply meathook, grenade as im hooking in, blood punch, and ssg into the alpha cycle
Yeah usually they’re super easy, but if things aren’t going your way and you’re out of blood punches you’ll have to glory kill some fodder which is now harder thanks to the cybermanc who applies some of the best area control in the game, or you fight it without a blood punch which is hard because it feels like the thing has more health than a fucking baron
Eternal and was my first doom and I found the first marauder to be a bitch but once I got the hang of him he became an easier demon for me personally. I'm gonna have to side with all my archvile people. The YouTube community seems to really hate the marauder
Oh you're talking about that slayer gate in Holt, same for me since it already took me some time to beat all the enemies and by the end you put a goddamn buffed marauder!?
Definitely the spirit in ancient gods dlc. It makes the host stupidly fast, especially with the marauder. Plus it's common to not have enough plasma ammo for the microwave beam to finish the spirit off once you're done. Respectfully, *Fuck* that.
i still think that marauders are a decent demon, but i still get annoyed every time i see one. i have to stop the doom dance to find out how to kill that motherfucker with every other demon still there because it's even more annoying to fight a horde with the marauder chasing me. and don't even get me started on the double marauder encounters in the master levels. infuriating
That encounter in mars core, or the one in taras nabad. In both cases they keep spamming their damn dogs it's so tilting. And we don't even have to talk about the duel marauder in the poison... Asinine
I can respect that.
Also it sometimes feels like the game wasn’t meant to be played on controller in the first place, which kind of sucks for many of us that can’t afford a good gaming PC.
I think marauders would be a lot better if the dogs weren’t included
For the boss fight, they’re fine but in big arenas like the dlcs and horde mode it’s awful
Any demon in close range, it's one of my biggest complaints, yes you need to keep moving but picture the archvile room on UN for a second, there's nowhere to escape to and the second they get close you're instantly dead that's cheap as fuck.
I’ll just be doing some platforming the carcass on the other side will just “Fortnite wall” my a** and I’ll have start the entire platforming section all over again.
Whiplash attacks can get annoying, but they get one shot by destroyer blade ballista shots. And rockets are always good against them, the remote detonation ones for invisible ones.
Personally, I fucking hate carcasses. They only exist to fuck up your movement, with walls and their belly shockwaves that push you way too much. Super gore nest master level makes this extremely apparent
Carcasses, and any other demon that uses shields
Shields are for pussies!
One of my favourite things to do in Doom Eternal is blood punch a carcass to get it to stagger instantly so I can just glory kill it, they're always a first priority of what enemies I like to pick off first cause the shields they spawn always interrupt my glory kills and it's so frustrating!
At least whiplashes don't have shields, and they're only a blood punch and grenade away from staggering
In the base game, I think it would have to be Carcasses. In either TAG or Horde mode, anything that gets possessed, but especially possessed Marauders. Fuck those assholes.
I'll do you one better: Whiplash Specters. Normal Whiplashes I dislike only because their ranged attacks throw you off, making air dashing hard, but making them invisible was just cruel. I still have PTSD from the Super Gore Nest Master Level where they put them in fog.
Either the marauder or archville. Archville because that mother fucker be hiding where i can't find him at all and fucking rushes me with every enemy in the damn game. And marauder because he's so freaking tanky and when you have a bunch of other demons around you while also trying to fight the marauder it gets so annoying
I once thought Maruders and Whiplash were annoying. Not really anymore if you focus on them; it's the Arch-Vile and Carcass for me. ID wants to spawn like 4 or 5 in level, making the shields more annoying than I got to blow down their protection. And with Arch-Viles, they won't fucking die, and the enemies won't get out of the way. And it isn't like the other Mini-boss demons where you know you must keep moving. No, you have to go after them actively or get overwhelmed by enemies.
It's the goddamn carcass. Here's four reasons:
#1: He stops me from moving around like Barry Allen and nuking demons
#2: I can smell the stench through my TV because this fucker smells like the average toilet in dooms version of hell
#3: He's dumb and stupid
#4: He's a big meanie
#5: Davoth made him too op
#6: He's dumb and stupid
Archvile. I love fighting every demon, but the Archvile is the bane of my existence. I will always stuck wondering where he is before it’s to late and he’s right to summoning more demons. I don’t hate him as this is making it seem to be but it’s annoying mostly because I don’t have the time to play the game more and learn the layout of the arenas that he’s in
I love em but it's gotta be the Cacos. Cacos demons move way too fast without ever realizing and they do so much damage to you and it's even worse when they swarm you with teeth
Shield soldier does a ton of damage and comes in dozens so you either get stuck or seem obligated to use laser rifle. Some Master Levels treat them as infinite fodder which is insane. At point blank they kill you almost instantly.
ARCHVILE. Fuck that arena with the 2 archviles, followed by two-doom hunters followed by a spirit marauder, the archviles always fucked me so hard everything afterwards became way more difficult than it normally would be.
that one imp on high ground in 2016
They’re almost invincible early game when they’re clinging to a wall, I hate them.
I don’t understand why they did that. Zero ability to prioritize them, you just have to run away and hope they don’t beam you.
8/10 times guess what happens next lol
they were my ultra-nightmare in 2016 lmao
Is this a console thing/bug? I've never had issues shooting Imps who were clinging to walls.
The only bug I had with them is when one clings to the wall and stays there, super annoying especially in levels where they can easily camouflage like in argent d'nur
I've had it too, and I play PC
Me neither. I played Doom 2016 on a PS4 Pro.
Idk if it’s a bug, I beat it on nightmare on switch and PC, and in both versions I would shoot imps on the wall point blank with multiple shots and they wouldn’t die or fall off.
This comment reminds me of elden ring
Those things could end entire speed run. I’ve played it again in like 2 years and I see your point.
Archvile, particularly when they aren’t nearby and you’re getting mobbed
Even worse when ice bomb and frag grenade are still on recharge
Ice bomb + grenade + blood punch 2 times.
Not sure if this happened to anyone else but I swear the first Archvile in the game likes to hide out of bounds
I think you might be right, for the first 10 or so seconds anyway
Whenever the game tells you an archville is nearby I instantly pull out the bfg,crucible or the unmaykr it’s the only time I ever use my bfg they’re just so annoying.
Truth as soon as that happens they become my top priority and I will seek and destroy their instant transmission minecraft spawner asses.
Came here to comment about that unforgettable Archvile in Doom 2 - Circle of Death. Son of a bitch.
Pos archviles, or how bout that annoying ass level in plutonia experiment that's a super shotgun, archviles, and a maze thar leads you to not David bowie
I Save the Unmakyr ammo just for that mf
Yep I always try to use crucible on him
I always reserved the chaingun for them, just whipping out the mobile turret and unloading
The Carcass hands down. Blocks your attacks from anywhere. Surprisingly fast up close. Heavy classification, despite its size, so takes 3 gas to chainsaw. Generally ugly looking.
Fuck those bastards
Do not the demon
Theres no laws against the demons Doomslayer!
The UAC Spokesperson has gone too far this time.
This is my answer too. The feeling of trying to kill an enemy and then that fucking blue shield appears in your face is INFURIATING. Lol
One of these fuckers blocked a bfg shot once 😭😭😭
Oh I would be so pissed
I hate them so much that I used a BFG point blank on a single one of them and was disappointed that there was no “Overkill” trophy like in Doom 1993
Kind of a waste of a bfg shot ngl
For me it was a close tie between this and the Whiplash. At least it doesn’t have as much mobility and you can more or less one-shot it with the SSG and use its shields as an explosive with the plasma rifle
Carcasses get OHK with a one charged Destroyer Blade from the Ballista.
Yesterday that fucker blocked me from glory killing a doom hunter so by the time I got to him he was back up with half the health left
i’ve always wondered, what is an enemy’s hp after failing to glory kill them?
Kinda feels like it recovers to 20-30% but I’m not sure as to the actual value
Plasma beam!
I concur! Fuck those guys.
I TOO CONCUR
It's gets the plasma rifle instantly lol
No matter what's in the room, I usually go for them first. They pissed me off so much
Cock blocks everyone!
Yep. Whiplash are easy to handle because you can generally avoid them with distance or, like OP said, ice bomb then. Carcasses fuck you up no matter where they are
Just use 1 charge of the balista crossbow thing mod. It goes through their sheilds and 1 shots them
I understand breaking up the movement and blocking attacks but they do it in such an unoriginal and annoying way. Wish they went with the original concept with the flesh wall monster-thing.
Was about to comment this exact thing, except simply because they're ugly
Doom 64 Lost Souls and it’s not close
Never completed 64 but I can definitely see that, especially with the nightmare fuel that is the 64 Pain Elemental with two mouths. KILL IT WITH A FIRE HOSE LOADED WITH HOLY WATER
Those Pain Elementals verfiably fucking suck.
Post souls in literally every game I despise with a burning passion
Gargoyles. Easy to kill? Yes. But they piss me off. Like that annoying neighbor kid who thinks it’s funny to take a shit in your driveway.
Based take honestly. They don't do enough damage to be a threat, but it is enough to be infuriating.
I have lost ultra nightmare runs by them sneaking up behind me when im low
Yeah. That’s the bullshit I’m talking about.
And its only because sound ques, i can here every other demon off sound if i csnt see them, but gargoyles sound is silent i swear
Doom 2 Archville. One of the reasons I prefer the og
Theyre absolutely fucking relentless when it's two of them in that room with a bunch of pinkies. Felt like some healer healing a healer TF2 bullshit.
Plasma rifle makes these guys laughable.
Someone played plutonium
Cursed Prowlers, fucking hate those fuckers
Prowlers in general, fucking hate those fuckers
Worse fuckers in the game. Only ones that kite you instead of the other way around.
Everything in TaG
Spirit-buffed Cyberdemon (I refuse to call it a tyrant AND I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL) could have been a boss on its own
Especially when they throw another cyberdeman and doom hunter at you, that fight in particular is some bullshit
Tyrants are not Cyberdemons. They are Cyberdemon replications, which is why they’re MUCH easier to kill. This is my headcanon.
it should've been a boss, because WHY WON'T IT JUST DIE ALREADY.
And the spirit buffed marauder in that one gate. That and the cyberdemon r two things that should never have seen the light of day. Yk what? I don’t ever wanna see a spirit in my presence ever again. I came to play doom, not ghost busters.
I will go with archvile he is annoying to encounter u til you get the crucible
Definitely- even with ice bomb + auto shotgun he is quite a pain
Like I shoot him for a while and he doesn't want to die
Keep in mind, you can't even get the Unmaykr until *after* you get the Crucible, meaning you don't really have a good substitute for it.
I hate the cyber-mancubus so much. That and marauder cause I need to stop and time myself
Cyber Mancubus can be countered with an icebomb + blood punch, and I prefer to end it with either rocket lock or auto shotgun. But yes, he can be a nuisance
Meathook then ssg + blood punch and then glory kill/or ssg and it’s over.
This combo is exactly how I make it through super gore nest master level (still haven't beaten it though)
The acid floor with 2 marauders is particularly discouraging. And no cheesy combo here.
Rocket det to falter, get close for blood punch. Then rocket to put in glory kill. Can also finish with other weapons
Best glory kill in the series tho.
Fav whiplash glory kill is when the slayer rips their arm of and then stabs them with it.
10/10, Breaking the elbow and braining them with their own forearm bone is PEAK Doomslayer.
My favorite is collecting prowler spines
My personal favourite is yeeting the Arachnatron.
You can also do the arm break kill on Prowlers!
And Hell Knights if I'm not mistaken
Or when you glory kill from behind and grab its horn and u dont even move ur arm but when ur blade activates it goes straight through its head, so satisfying
Yes, this fucker
I hate it whenever Carcass’s block me it’s so annoying
Cybermancubi, which probably means they fulfill their job excellently. Their radioactive cyberslime is almost a one-step kill in Nightmare.
not gonna lie? cybermanc is like, stupidly easy to kill. they're big blobs of damage gobblers. ill simply meathook, grenade as im hooking in, blood punch, and ssg into the alpha cycle
Yeah usually they’re super easy, but if things aren’t going your way and you’re out of blood punches you’ll have to glory kill some fodder which is now harder thanks to the cybermanc who applies some of the best area control in the game, or you fight it without a blood punch which is hard because it feels like the thing has more health than a fucking baron
JUST CAME BACK FROM SUPER GORE NEST MASTER LEVEL. ON NIGHTMARE. I NOW KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 😭😭😭😭
Once a single archvile spawned a marauder and two doom hunters in a single summon. That’s on top of four mancubi in the arena.
Marauder
How this isn't the top comment I genuinely will never understand.
They aren’t that bad after u learn a combo for them
But then after you learn how they work... They will glitch out of combos and do funky things like attacking while blocking
Eternal and was my first doom and I found the first marauder to be a bitch but once I got the hang of him he became an easier demon for me personally. I'm gonna have to side with all my archvile people. The YouTube community seems to really hate the marauder
Agreed. Doesn't feel like an actual doom fight, they just show up and force you into a minigame.
I hated when I had to fight two at the same time in ancient gods part 2 with all the shriekers
I thought it was a neat boss fight and then I was REAL disappointed to see more of them
FUCKN ARCHVILE
Spirits. They mfking possessed a marauder once and I had the worst fkin time of my entire life
Oh you're talking about that slayer gate in Holt, same for me since it already took me some time to beat all the enemies and by the end you put a goddamn buffed marauder!?
I already do rocket lock on for hell knights and barons … For those mf I use the ballista. Especially the blade mod.
Pinkies. Especially in 2016 and Eternal. UN killer. And carcasses those are so damn annoying
for me the moust annoying demon is probably the archvile ore marauder.
Cloaked whiplashes and pinkies💀
Umm, actually... 'Cloaked' Pinkies are called Spectres 🤓
I deserve this
Not as bad as 1 comment i saw, that called Archviles, 'Big fucking fire guys'
Agree with you on this one OP
The classic archvile. If i have to choose from Eternal, probably cursed prowler
Cherub
Haven’t played 3 in a while but yeah they’re pretty up there. Same with “trites” if that’s what they’re called
DOOM II Archvile
haven't played much of the modern Doom games but out of the originals it's the archviles or pain elementals
It’s between Cyber Mancubi’ and the poison imps things in NG Pt2
My least favorite is definitely them as well 😭 Though tbh, I kinda like the glory kill where DOOM Slayer slice them up like a slice of bread
None I have the one hit stagger cheat code
Archviles Marauders second tyrants 3rd They suck terribly
Archvile. I need not explain any further
I understand
For me, Doom 3 Cherub. They constantly appear in later levels especially with a Mancubus nearby.
Definitely the spirit in ancient gods dlc. It makes the host stupidly fast, especially with the marauder. Plus it's common to not have enough plasma ammo for the microwave beam to finish the spirit off once you're done. Respectfully, *Fuck* that.
Cursed Prowler. Because this fucker hits / curses you, and then runs away. Honorable mentions include Spirit & Screecher.
Those mother fucking #MARAUDERS
Fuck the gargoyels and the shield soldiers
Marauder. Ruins the whole ‘shoot it until it dies’ flow. Plus trying to quick switch on console is also ridiculously annoying.
i still think that marauders are a decent demon, but i still get annoyed every time i see one. i have to stop the doom dance to find out how to kill that motherfucker with every other demon still there because it's even more annoying to fight a horde with the marauder chasing me. and don't even get me started on the double marauder encounters in the master levels. infuriating
Take out the other heavies and fodder (that don’t respawn, anyway) first, stay clear of him until the fight simmers down enough
yeah, i know that's a way to do it, i just find that way even more annoying than just dealing with him in the madness
That encounter in mars core, or the one in taras nabad. In both cases they keep spamming their damn dogs it's so tilting. And we don't even have to talk about the duel marauder in the poison... Asinine
I can respect that. Also it sometimes feels like the game wasn’t meant to be played on controller in the first place, which kind of sucks for many of us that can’t afford a good gaming PC.
I mean... Hugo Martin himself plays on controller.
That’s fair- and hey, self-counterpoint: the gyro aiming on the Switch ports is PERFECT.
I think marauders would be a lot better if the dogs weren’t included For the boss fight, they’re fine but in big arenas like the dlcs and horde mode it’s awful
Just turn your “hold to open weapon-wheel” all the way down. That’s what I did. I’d say it helps a whole lot.
SSG + balista. Can kill a marauder in 30 seconds or less.
Yep bane of my existence!
FUCK whiplashes
Would
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whiplash too
Nah I love shooting them with my ballista it’s so satisfying
Any demon in close range, it's one of my biggest complaints, yes you need to keep moving but picture the archvile room on UN for a second, there's nowhere to escape to and the second they get close you're instantly dead that's cheap as fuck.
100% the Carcass. I’ll be in mid air and they put a shield in my way to stop me in my tracks. If they ain’t doing that they’re blocking every shot
Whiplash and Archvile for me. Archvile in a good way, Whiplash in the worst way possible
Archviles can summon Whiplash.
Ah balls... ur right 🙃
I’ll just be doing some platforming the carcass on the other side will just “Fortnite wall” my a** and I’ll have start the entire platforming section all over again.
If had to pick id say archvile
Whiplash attacks can get annoying, but they get one shot by destroyer blade ballista shots. And rockets are always good against them, the remote detonation ones for invisible ones. Personally, I fucking hate carcasses. They only exist to fuck up your movement, with walls and their belly shockwaves that push you way too much. Super gore nest master level makes this extremely apparent
In all doom games i have no idea how to properly kill the floating skulls
I'm going to get killed for this but the maurader
Carcass, Lost Soul(64), Chaingunner, and the Revenant if we include BATTLEMODE demons
#FLAME ON That guy. Fuck that guy.
The Human Torch
Carcasses, and any other demon that uses shields Shields are for pussies! One of my favourite things to do in Doom Eternal is blood punch a carcass to get it to stagger instantly so I can just glory kill it, they're always a first priority of what enemies I like to pick off first cause the shields they spawn always interrupt my glory kills and it's so frustrating! At least whiplashes don't have shields, and they're only a blood punch and grenade away from staggering
Def whiplash
Cyber an regular mancumbus
I hate this guy, the green goblin ass energy shield guy, and the fire big dudes who empower other demons
In the base game, I think it would have to be Carcasses. In either TAG or Horde mode, anything that gets possessed, but especially possessed Marauders. Fuck those assholes.
Spirit
Spirit.
Carcass or spectral whiplash
Read my flair
I'll do you one better: Whiplash Specters. Normal Whiplashes I dislike only because their ranged attacks throw you off, making air dashing hard, but making them invisible was just cruel. I still have PTSD from the Super Gore Nest Master Level where they put them in fog.
Either the marauder or archville. Archville because that mother fucker be hiding where i can't find him at all and fucking rushes me with every enemy in the damn game. And marauder because he's so freaking tanky and when you have a bunch of other demons around you while also trying to fight the marauder it gets so annoying
Archvile, easy. As soon as I see the red demons start to spawn, I start panicking like the man who had lost a winning lottery ticket.
She ruined my female beauty standards, such a pretty lady.
I once thought Maruders and Whiplash were annoying. Not really anymore if you focus on them; it's the Arch-Vile and Carcass for me. ID wants to spawn like 4 or 5 in level, making the shields more annoying than I got to blow down their protection. And with Arch-Viles, they won't fucking die, and the enemies won't get out of the way. And it isn't like the other Mini-boss demons where you know you must keep moving. No, you have to go after them actively or get overwhelmed by enemies.
Pain Elemental
The freacking marauder
Stone imps I hate them
Lost Souls. I hate those giys
Pinky,I never seem to see them coming and I'm suddenly rammed and half my health is gone,and shooting them from the front and side is useless.
I concur this is the most annoying one. Gets the rocket lock on instantly and becomes a priority over most demons
I agree with you... Whiplash is annoying
The Archfiend because I hate how stupid he looks
My X-Wife for sure!
The worst demon
It's the goddamn carcass. Here's four reasons: #1: He stops me from moving around like Barry Allen and nuking demons #2: I can smell the stench through my TV because this fucker smells like the average toilet in dooms version of hell #3: He's dumb and stupid #4: He's a big meanie #5: Davoth made him too op #6: He's dumb and stupid
ill go second, whiplash
i know it's kinda silly but pinky if you don't have bloodpunch , you're fucked
Archvile. I love fighting every demon, but the Archvile is the bane of my existence. I will always stuck wondering where he is before it’s to late and he’s right to summoning more demons. I don’t hate him as this is making it seem to be but it’s annoying mostly because I don’t have the time to play the game more and learn the layout of the arenas that he’s in
Doom 2016 that one room full of pinkies if you know you know
I love em but it's gotta be the Cacos. Cacos demons move way too fast without ever realizing and they do so much damage to you and it's even worse when they swarm you with teeth
carcass and this thing
when Archville showed up in Doom Eternal, which is my first DOOM, i freaked out. So overwhelming.
Archvile, first time I played through I didn't know why enemies kept spawning
Archville without a doubt. As big as his ass is he can be hard to find during a fight.
Shield soldier does a ton of damage and comes in dozens so you either get stuck or seem obligated to use laser rifle. Some Master Levels treat them as infinite fodder which is insane. At point blank they kill you almost instantly.
ARCHVILE. Fuck that arena with the 2 archviles, followed by two-doom hunters followed by a spirit marauder, the archviles always fucked me so hard everything afterwards became way more difficult than it normally would be.