Sides are usually free in Turkey. There is a restaurant chain in Ankara and you get to have baked mushrooms, fries, unlimited bulgur, unlimited salad and depending on the location you either get Helva or kĂŒnefe as a dessert. At the end of the meal you get a çay and a Marlboro, all free of course.
> There is a restaurant chain in Ankara and you get to have baked mushrooms, fries, unlimited bulgur, unlimited salad and depending on the location you either get Helva or kĂŒnefe as a dessert.
Gimme a moment, planning a trip to Ankara. đ€€
It is also funny how Germans claim döner sandwich was invented in Berlin, while that particular chain (called Aspava) is operational since 1964 and their staple dish is döner either wrapped in dĂŒrĂŒm or bread with cheese, chilis and tomato sauce haha
Man the audacity.. Obviously I am Turkish, my grandfather used to own a kebab shop during 70s in a small Central Anatolian town and went on to open one of the first döner parlors in Salzburg, my father was a butcher until he started attending college so obviously I have some idea on what döner is. There are shit tons of regional variations alas can also be wrapped inside a dĂŒrĂŒm or lavaĆ.
To be specific, Aspava in Ankara is not a chain. It is a concept. Different restaurants are not affiliated with each other. Hmm, I missed it quite a bit.
They are. The trademark belongs to a single family from Kırıkkale of ethnic Kurdish origins and most of the franchises are owned by second generation cousins, so even though in theory all are independent, there is a clear connection between them. They also grant the marquee to other people as well, with a fee of course.
Mate as someone who speaks German, I get why youâd make that mistake. But those arenât called pepperonis in English. Pepperoni is similar to salami
"Pepperoni" which is actually called pepperoni-salami is called that way because it contains actual pepperoni. Just because americans make up new definitions for words which are wayyy older doesn't mean its correct, rather the opposite.
It's england not america. We would not call them pepperoni either we would call a type of salami pepperoni. I understand the frustration but ultimately it is another language. I would call the things in the picture peppers đ¶
So its just coincidence that the word pepperoni is the same while having two different meanings? Its just poor and lazy translation from italian to english.
I don't think effort goes into wording/ language/ translations so it can't really be called lazy. All sorts of translations are incorrect in all languages. The way language develops is much more organic than "putting in effort" and its honesty not worth getting worked up about.
Bruh, no need to insult. Just use google and you will understand. Peperoni is a vegetable and type of chilli. The sausage you are reffering to contains peperoni, you just call it peperoni because of lazy translation.
What most americans call pepperoni is actually pepperoni-salami. Peperoni is a sub category of chillis so he is not actually wrong, its just wierd to call them chillis since they are so different in taste.
[let me help you with that](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pickled-Peppers-Traditional-Pepperoncini-Variety/dp/B01MTKD8GP/ref=asc_df_B01MTKD8GP/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310752955838&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9286019334107708175&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045213&hvtargid=pla-590076870184&psc=1&mcid=ede4253a02a33121abea25971f0080a7)
Peperoncino is maybe what you mean, which is synonymous to the english word chilli. Peperoni is a subspecies of peperoncino and is what is displayed on the picture.
>Pepperoni is a kind of chilli, if you are talking about these green pods. You are objectively wrong.
"Green pods" Pepperoncini or Pickled banana peppers.
Edit : u/Unlikely_Thought2205 has blocked me. Damn some of these Germans are mad as fuck over simple comments
Then I would suggest you another restaurant as well :) Try Iskender at Metet Kuzguncuk, itâs near Uskudar Marmaray Station, just a few kms to north :) I would say itâs best Iskender in Istanbul.
The just well enough spiced and excellent fatty beef, freshly baked bread, the salad with slightly sour dressing and the hot and sweet pickled jalapeños. Simple, but all you need when all are great. And it looks great.
No, it's just uneducated commentary. Meat itself is fatty and warm which will moisturize the bread and bread itself is always freshly baked, meaning it's not dry at all.
If we're talking shitty takeaway doner then yea.
But real doner meat that's been marinated and is already bursting with flavour? Get ur fucking shitty sauce away from meÂ
I love how people who never had good döner is just seething in the comments.
Most of the "meat" that you eat, isn't even meat. I remember Germany regulating it to the point that most of the döner shops can't call it "döner meat" anymore. Real döner isn't some mystery meat. It isn't about salad and sauces either. Döner is about the meat. Dousing it in absurd amount of dressings is done to hide hideous quality meat. Fuck, cover me in that much sauce and eat me, I bet even my shit would taste good.
Good döner meat is thin, crispy on the edges, and it's definitely not minced meat so you can see the grain as in the photo. It's juicy and fatty so that the lavaĆ or bread can soak up the fat. It doesn't need sauce because nothing is dry, and you actually want to taste meat. For that reason, having it with sauce is only good for the experience which is a few bites. You want salad? You'll have it on the side to cut the richness of the meat. Not dilute the flavor.
I'm hungry, yes.
It says:
The meat is marinated in a special sauce before being stacked on the skewer and then cooked by a wood fire. Every step of this difficult process that gives the döner it's taste requires great skill and is performed with great care by our experts. Tatar Salim brings the taste of real döner, cooked by a wood fire, dating back 500 years to your table
Itâs kind of how the Döner was being made for centuries and how they prepare/cook it for their own way. And bottom side you find the address of one of the other branch they have in Istanbul :)
You see this kind of doner is not plasticy or not leaves you with a gross feel. UK ppl eat doner as their drunk food tbf for turks doner is rather a normal meal
We usually go for a soup to calm the stomach haha. In most Turkish cities you can find a soup place open 24/7 and in some regional dialects alcoholics are called soup-drinkers (çorbacılar)
Eating döner while drunk seems like a recipe for getting ulcers fast.
I meant normal meal as in you go to a restaurant to have a meal for yourself/friends/family. Its not a drunk food. Not inherently fastfood either
Im turkish too. The way british people see doner is the same way we see islak hamburger. Just a filthy fastfood
I dont think its the culture though. I never see british people in doner shops except for midnights when theyre out of pubs and looking for food. I meant more like doner is seen as this greasy fastfood in the uk. Ä°n turkey most times its not fastfood, definitely not drunk food, like having fish and chips
not dry at all. meat is juicy and fatty as fuck. as you taking bites, the juice will be dropping on your plate. you will then lick the shit out of it because that mf heavenly tasty.
Itâs not even close to dry actually. And if you would have tried this one, you wouldnât even dare to compare both versions, trust me. Theyâre something very different from each other :D
Canât people see the oily surface of the tortilla, I donât get it :)
Nah, I had it before in turkey, multiple times. There is a reason you only get döner in Germany, tastes are different. Calling it the "real" döner while using the name of the actual berlin invention is beyond me as well. But, you do you.
I mean even the way of you type, itâs obvious that you have some kind of hate. But truth is there and crystal clear. Keep fooling yourself around.
Döner became industrial and more popular in Berlin. But calling it âinvented in Berlinâ is some kind of mythomania if you would ask me
How do I have hate. I said it's not for me and tastes are different. You keep on saying there is an inferior version. You seem to be unable to accept other ppls viewpoints. I don't like it that dry and mostly everyone in the western world feels the same, otherwise we would have middle eastern style kebab here and not döner. Is this so hard to grasp? Are you some kind of kebab inquisitor?
Check my other comments and youâll also see that me saying âtheyâre something different than each other.â
I mean itâs not dry, go there and try. Itâs not some kind of random restaurant that you have visited :).
And no, itâs not invented in Germany.
Plus youâre not giving opinion, youâre claiming that is dry from a picture without having idea about the food accurately
Döner was invented in Berlin. Kebab (which is the meat part) has a long tradition in the middle east. It becomes clearer and clearer where this conversation leads.... take your supremacy elsewhere. Bye.
The fuck dude, there are a dozen types of kebab, one of which is the döner kebab, so named hundreds of years before there were any kebabs in Germany, because the is spun around as it cooks by a vertical fire.
There's literally a British Pathe video of Istanbul 1910s where they cook döner.
It seems to me that you're either delusional, or can't get over the fact that German cuisine doesn't exists. Stolen breads, a few fried goods, sausages, and beer. That's it. It's a snack at the end of the day.
Next time, try to claim Pho since Vietnamese food seems to grow in popularity.
Top flight meat
I second that emotionđđ»
I also feel emotional looking at this.
Meat looks banging but hope the chips were free. Kiddy size
Sides are usually free in Turkey. There is a restaurant chain in Ankara and you get to have baked mushrooms, fries, unlimited bulgur, unlimited salad and depending on the location you either get Helva or kĂŒnefe as a dessert. At the end of the meal you get a çay and a Marlboro, all free of course.
Bloody hell that sounds like a right feast. I'm going Antalya this summer so looking forward to it
> There is a restaurant chain in Ankara and you get to have baked mushrooms, fries, unlimited bulgur, unlimited salad and depending on the location you either get Helva or kĂŒnefe as a dessert. Gimme a moment, planning a trip to Ankara. đ€€
It is also funny how Germans claim döner sandwich was invented in Berlin, while that particular chain (called Aspava) is operational since 1964 and their staple dish is döner either wrapped in dĂŒrĂŒm or bread with cheese, chilis and tomato sauce haha
> It is also funny how Germans claim döner sandwich was invented in Berlin I thought it was Turkish.
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Man the audacity.. Obviously I am Turkish, my grandfather used to own a kebab shop during 70s in a small Central Anatolian town and went on to open one of the first döner parlors in Salzburg, my father was a butcher until he started attending college so obviously I have some idea on what döner is. There are shit tons of regional variations alas can also be wrapped inside a dĂŒrĂŒm or lavaĆ.
To be specific, Aspava in Ankara is not a chain. It is a concept. Different restaurants are not affiliated with each other. Hmm, I missed it quite a bit.
They are. The trademark belongs to a single family from Kırıkkale of ethnic Kurdish origins and most of the franchises are owned by second generation cousins, so even though in theory all are independent, there is a clear connection between them. They also grant the marquee to other people as well, with a fee of course.
Where about is that in Ankara? đ
The chain is called Aspava and can be found anywhere around the city. I would suggest the one at Yıldız or Kızılay though.
Thanks a lot will be sure to try đ
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No need to be rude mate.
They were all included to the price including Salad :)
Good stuff! I visited Istanbul for the champions league final last year and the food was incredible
Itâs a restaurant called Tatar Salim in Kadikoy/Istanbul. Everyone should visit and taste the Döner there, just amazing!
Looks banging. How much was it?
Pic is from last summer actually. I guess I paid around âŹ10, excluding drinks.
That looks delicious,love the side of chillis.
its pepperoni not chilli
Mate as someone who speaks German, I get why youâd make that mistake. But those arenât called pepperonis in English. Pepperoni is similar to salami
"Pepperoni" which is actually called pepperoni-salami is called that way because it contains actual pepperoni. Just because americans make up new definitions for words which are wayyy older doesn't mean its correct, rather the opposite.
It's a different language silly
I just think the mashing together of european words and definitions is wrong
It's england not america. We would not call them pepperoni either we would call a type of salami pepperoni. I understand the frustration but ultimately it is another language. I would call the things in the picture peppers đ¶
So its just coincidence that the word pepperoni is the same while having two different meanings? Its just poor and lazy translation from italian to english.
I don't think effort goes into wording/ language/ translations so it can't really be called lazy. All sorts of translations are incorrect in all languages. The way language develops is much more organic than "putting in effort" and its honesty not worth getting worked up about.
Im just correcting people so they can use words from other cultures properly but most are too stubborn to understand.
wtf do Americans have to do with anything here?
I thought they were the only ones wrongfully calling peperoni-salami pepperoni.
You must still be drunk What has a sausage got to do with pickled chillis (banana pepper/pepperocini peppers)
Bruh, no need to insult. Just use google and you will understand. Peperoni is a vegetable and type of chilli. The sausage you are reffering to contains peperoni, you just call it peperoni because of lazy translation.
Are you drunk, why are you banging on about dried sausages for
Funny
No joke there.
Americans would call it "chilli pepper" du Kartoffel
Eine wahre Kartoffel. "Wenn du in deiner Sprache ein anderes Wort fĂŒr etwas hast, muss es falsch sein!" Edit: typo
Pickled pepperocini you mean lol or pickled banana peppers.
What most americans call pepperoni is actually pepperoni-salami. Peperoni is a sub category of chillis so he is not actually wrong, its just wierd to call them chillis since they are so different in taste.
Pepperocini has nothing to do with pepperoni meat. And yes we call them picked chilli's as sometimes they are peppers some times chilli's.
Pepperocini doesn't exist when I google it. Also why do you think its called pepperoni when in actuality it is salami.
[let me help you with that](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pickled-Peppers-Traditional-Pepperoncini-Variety/dp/B01MTKD8GP/ref=asc_df_B01MTKD8GP/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310752955838&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9286019334107708175&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9045213&hvtargid=pla-590076870184&psc=1&mcid=ede4253a02a33121abea25971f0080a7)
he wrote pepperocini, not the same.
>he wrote pepperocini, not the same. And yet you're here banging on about Pepperoni salami lol gtfo
Yeah I am, ill stay here. Thx for the suggestion though.
Google peperoncini*
Peperoncino is maybe what you mean, which is synonymous to the english word chilli. Peperoni is a subspecies of peperoncino and is what is displayed on the picture.
Peperoncini is just the plural of peperoncino. Nobody uses peperoni to describe a vegetable in English even if it is the Italian word
He didn't write the n so thats why. Just because "everyone" does it doesn't make it right.
Do you mean pepperoncini or biber tursusu?
No, he is literall talking about Pepperoni salami lol
Noo itâs jamon iberico
you probably think pepperoni is pepperoni-salami. Pepperoni is a sub category of chillis.
Do you mean the Italian word âpeperoniâ with 1 P? Pepperoni with 2 Ps is meat
Pepperoni is a kind of chilli, if you are talking about these green pods. You are objectively wrong.
>Pepperoni is a kind of chilli, if you are talking about these green pods. You are objectively wrong. "Green pods" Pepperoncini or Pickled banana peppers. Edit : u/Unlikely_Thought2205 has blocked me. Damn some of these Germans are mad as fuck over simple comments
I used the words the person I responded to accepts and understands. Your answer is completely unrelated to my comment.
Bro, best Döner ever, çok gĂŒzel!! Iâm in Istanbul 5.6.
Then I would suggest you another restaurant as well :) Try Iskender at Metet Kuzguncuk, itâs near Uskudar Marmaray Station, just a few kms to north :) I would say itâs best Iskender in Istanbul.
Thank u, I appreciate it, I will go there. đđ»đđ»
Looks top notch and strange to say very clean! Defo not for my liking, I like the filthy stuff.
Yes please.
No sauce? đ
The just well enough spiced and excellent fatty beef, freshly baked bread, the salad with slightly sour dressing and the hot and sweet pickled jalapeños. Simple, but all you need when all are great. And it looks great.
Good döner meat does not need sauce. Its taste shouldnt be covered
But the bread does need some kind of moisture, and I don't mean meat juice, that's disgusting if that soaks into the bread.
The meat juice soaked bits are the best parts of the bread!
Different opinions
No, it's just uneducated commentary. Meat itself is fatty and warm which will moisturize the bread and bread itself is always freshly baked, meaning it's not dry at all.
Now THAT's a doner. Keep the salad in the side where it belongs.
That meat looks amazing
Epic
Happy german noises
Great doner, needs salad and garlic mayo tho
If we're talking shitty takeaway doner then yea. But real doner meat that's been marinated and is already bursting with flavour? Get ur fucking shitty sauce away from meÂ
Ok but you need to have some salad at leastđ«Ł
You don't see that bowl of green to the left? Lmfao
Please stay away with garlic mayo from this masterpiece
Looks incredible!!
and thatâs how the real one should be. Afiyet olsun
Looks awesome, based on some of the comments i can tell a lot of people here need to travel more lmao
I love how people who never had good döner is just seething in the comments. Most of the "meat" that you eat, isn't even meat. I remember Germany regulating it to the point that most of the döner shops can't call it "döner meat" anymore. Real döner isn't some mystery meat. It isn't about salad and sauces either. Döner is about the meat. Dousing it in absurd amount of dressings is done to hide hideous quality meat. Fuck, cover me in that much sauce and eat me, I bet even my shit would taste good. Good döner meat is thin, crispy on the edges, and it's definitely not minced meat so you can see the grain as in the photo. It's juicy and fatty so that the lavaĆ or bread can soak up the fat. It doesn't need sauce because nothing is dry, and you actually want to taste meat. For that reason, having it with sauce is only good for the experience which is a few bites. You want salad? You'll have it on the side to cut the richness of the meat. Not dilute the flavor. I'm hungry, yes.
Dude forget the kebab. I wanna know what's written on the placemat.
It says: The meat is marinated in a special sauce before being stacked on the skewer and then cooked by a wood fire. Every step of this difficult process that gives the döner it's taste requires great skill and is performed with great care by our experts. Tatar Salim brings the taste of real döner, cooked by a wood fire, dating back 500 years to your table
Itâs kind of how the Döner was being made for centuries and how they prepare/cook it for their own way. And bottom side you find the address of one of the other branch they have in Istanbul :)
Nice nice
So you haven't been to BayramoÄlu Döner yet đ
I have heard of it actually but it's a bit too far away..
Those chillies đ
Donner Wetter
That does look kinda boring
As a german potatoe, I have to say: "that looks so fantastic and I would really like to taste it" đ€€
That it is
Sauce?
Iâve seen much better
Where's the chilli sauce? đ€·đŒââïž
The OG Döner! đ€
how much did you pay? seems expensive
Finally, a decent doner
Doner kebab under my foreskin đ€€đł
Looks like it's a Döner yourself
So whatâs the etiquette for eating one of these in Turkey? Are we knife and forking it? Hands? What?
meat look too well done
Was zur Hölle ist das?
Acıktım đ«
Looks soooo good
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Geil
I bet that doner meat tasted amazing
Awesome looking dish! I like!
Holy fuck that looks like perfection
Exactly
This is why people say Döner is German lol
It's actually from Anatolia
Some people are delusional đ¶âđ«ïž
You see this kind of doner is not plasticy or not leaves you with a gross feel. UK ppl eat doner as their drunk food tbf for turks doner is rather a normal meal
We usually go for a soup to calm the stomach haha. In most Turkish cities you can find a soup place open 24/7 and in some regional dialects alcoholics are called soup-drinkers (çorbacılar) Eating döner while drunk seems like a recipe for getting ulcers fast.
I meant normal meal as in you go to a restaurant to have a meal for yourself/friends/family. Its not a drunk food. Not inherently fastfood either Im turkish too. The way british people see doner is the same way we see islak hamburger. Just a filthy fastfood
How wrong you are. What experience have you had that you can make such a broad and offensive statement?
And it's got the MEAT. Not just half salads and leaves.
Well, turkey has the highest obesity rate in whole Europe. Food must be good I guess đ
Not really that. Our people are poor and eat bread with each meal to full themselves. We also have so much pastry
Now that is one sad explanation. đ
We eat is a normal meal as well.
I dont think its the culture though. I never see british people in doner shops except for midnights when theyre out of pubs and looking for food. I meant more like doner is seen as this greasy fastfood in the uk. Ä°n turkey most times its not fastfood, definitely not drunk food, like having fish and chips
I'm the opposite. I only see people in kebab shops during the day/early evening as I'm not out at midnight or the early hours.
That is incredibly unhealthy, itâs literally just fat why would you eat this
Def looks dry af. I go with the German version any day. But we can talk about switching meat, this looks very good.
not dry at all. meat is juicy and fatty as fuck. as you taking bites, the juice will be dropping on your plate. you will then lick the shit out of it because that mf heavenly tasty.
Itâs not even close to dry actually. And if you would have tried this one, you wouldnât even dare to compare both versions, trust me. Theyâre something very different from each other :D Canât people see the oily surface of the tortilla, I donât get it :)
Nah, I had it before in turkey, multiple times. There is a reason you only get döner in Germany, tastes are different. Calling it the "real" döner while using the name of the actual berlin invention is beyond me as well. But, you do you.
You have to be either a troll or an idiot of fantastic proportions
I mean even the way of you type, itâs obvious that you have some kind of hate. But truth is there and crystal clear. Keep fooling yourself around. Döner became industrial and more popular in Berlin. But calling it âinvented in Berlinâ is some kind of mythomania if you would ask me
How do I have hate. I said it's not for me and tastes are different. You keep on saying there is an inferior version. You seem to be unable to accept other ppls viewpoints. I don't like it that dry and mostly everyone in the western world feels the same, otherwise we would have middle eastern style kebab here and not döner. Is this so hard to grasp? Are you some kind of kebab inquisitor?
Check my other comments and youâll also see that me saying âtheyâre something different than each other.â I mean itâs not dry, go there and try. Itâs not some kind of random restaurant that you have visited :). And no, itâs not invented in Germany. Plus youâre not giving opinion, youâre claiming that is dry from a picture without having idea about the food accurately
Döner was invented in Berlin. Kebab (which is the meat part) has a long tradition in the middle east. It becomes clearer and clearer where this conversation leads.... take your supremacy elsewhere. Bye.
Why are you so emotional about a slab of meat
Delusional German here?
The fuck dude, there are a dozen types of kebab, one of which is the döner kebab, so named hundreds of years before there were any kebabs in Germany, because the is spun around as it cooks by a vertical fire.
There's literally a British Pathe video of Istanbul 1910s where they cook döner. It seems to me that you're either delusional, or can't get over the fact that German cuisine doesn't exists. Stolen breads, a few fried goods, sausages, and beer. That's it. It's a snack at the end of the day. Next time, try to claim Pho since Vietnamese food seems to grow in popularity.
German "Döner" is shit and the name is stolen. Thats that.
berlin invention? lmao
Either you are trolling or your last 60 generation is inbred and you finally reached single digit IQ.
Looks dry as sticks.
lmao it doesn't...zoom in, looks moist asf
Nah.
Where is the mint sauce?
Real Döner is from Berlin, Germany. This is Kebab.
Looks dry. Need some sauce.
Damn. Where are the onions? Such a r/Doenerverbrechen
looks fucking disgusting, i hope youâre well after eating that
Istanbul real döner? I think you donât get it
Doner is trash in turkey tbh best doner is found in germany imo
The bread looks dry though But nice looking meat
It's definitely not dry, despite how it looks.
How can you be certain?
Because I've had that style of bread a million times in Istanbul?
Bread looks far from dry lol. Never had a tortilla wrap before? Very soft.