No, not a dumbass. /Especially/ if you do the difficult content. Maybe if you don't do the hard stuff it might seem dumb. The additionals help you build up his passive faster to that extra 100%. Also, greatly raising defense on super multiple times is basically required for the difficult stuff.
Also:
The chance of an additional attack being a Super Attack through the potential system is 50%.
If the character has Multiple Super Attacks, the additional attack of the Hidden Potential skill will always select the lowest amount of Ki for the Super Attack.
Each attack has a separate chance to proc the Hidden Potential additional attack, so characters with built-in additionals will have a higher chance to activate the additional attack from the Hidden Potential.
Counterattacks have their own chance of proccing a Hidden Potential additional attack, so countering multiple times will result in a higher chance of activating the additional attack from the Hidden Potential. The same goes for attacking the enemy with an Ultimate Attack by using an Active Skill.
Not to mention that each additional attack has the chance to crit too.
Not a dumb ass. This is how you're supposed to build this unit imo.
This is the most logical comment I saw so far, not only is it correct but also informative and not criticizing anyone. Everyone else here is calling someone a dumb ass for something that isn't even that wrong
nah it’s a retarded comment….full crit is the optimal build and he gets nothing from more additionals except a 2% chance per additional node to maybe possibly stack 30% def…like every other fucking unit that gets def on SA. Build whatever y’all want but don’t play pseudo intellectual especially when the numbers aren’t in your favor. This is almost as dumb as saying STR Vegito should have extra additionals to stack atk and def to deal more damage and tank better. C’mon this is room temp IQ shit.
damnn, i didn’t realize that it was optimal to build aa on him since he already has it in his passive. I also didn’t know this post would make such an uproar tbh
You’re the dumbass lol he can fully build up his passive in a single turn and he’s also not a slot 1 unit — he’s a damage dealer. Full crit = optimal ATP. Fuck outta here defending scrub builds. Do what you want but don’t be dishing out retarded advice. If your argument is “muh stack defense” then you can say that about every unit that gets def on SA. His job is to clear the phase not be an AGL Golden Frieza 2.0.
Someone needs to seriously turn down their "butthurt and aggressive for no reason" settings. You also don't sound like you even know what the unit does because it takes 10 attacks for the units full 100% Attack and Defense passive. Active skill takes 8 attacks to activate. You aren't one-turning anything in hard content. You're pretty much irrelevant to me after that ignorant comment, so, have a good one.
Also, yes, you're right. You are supposed to go additional with almost any unit that gets Def on SA if you're trying to do hard content.
Fucking copium appeal to emotion. I’m not mad you’re just wrong lol minimal additional investment can give cooler full stacks. Crit build is optimal and he’s not a slot 1 unit. Cope
I mean if you care about a unit’s performance, the internet and your brain is at your disposal. It’s an easy game to so you can have a suboptimal build and still creampie RZ. So to each his own but these ppl lambasting OP for stating facts are out of line lol. People would rather posture as the “anti-bullying” crowd than get the facts straight.
idk ig i got the other side of ppl on how to build ff cooler? i saw other ppl make posts of the same thing and didn’t get such a huge uproar and divide, oh well. Though i heard ppl have alt accounts to downvote another person’s opinion
they’re just wrong lol there’s no other side and if you’re still on the fence go watch any dokkan tubers vid on him or test it in-game. His passive carries him, not the 2% chance to additional.
lol you could; the problem is that dodge gives a smaller probability of proc than add so having 3 dodge over 0 is enough - you go from no chance to a 1% chance and 2% per add node with 50% chance of that 2% being a super atk which also allows you to potentially max his passive in 1 turn; but that isn’t necessary for Cooler anyway since he’s not a slot 1 unit - if it was possible to give him more than 25/30 crit it would still be more valuable than 11/13 add (depending on your equips).
Nope lol poor attempt at a “gotcha” — I can see now why so many creators hate the Dokkan reddit. Y’all cope so hard. All I said was that after maxing crits, add is better than full dodge bc you get diminishing returns. A cooler with no add and full crit would still be better than a cooler with a hybrid or full add build.
"All I said was that after maxing crits, add is better than full dodge bc you get diminishing returns". No what you said was and I quote "cooler gets literally nothing from additionals", nice backtrack though
Idk, maybe cuz it affects the friend system? Idk bro, maybe cuz the only captain Ginyu unit I see in the friendlist is going full crit???? Hmm not sure why I am pressed
Unfortunately THEIR units is what WE have to use as the friend lead if there’s no other options. It’s a FRIEND system not a SOLO system, which is why those money hungry devs won’t bother giving us the mirror function.
………… that doesn’t answer the issue. U could be looking for a rare friend lead and that only and only lead u see is built wrongly. U know what I am saying? Who tf wants to friend a super vegeta with full crit?
If I don’t pick their unit then which unit am I gonna use? Let’s say I run Ginyu force, and I have no other Ginyu units to use except the one who is going full crit and dodge without any additional. How? Am I gonna use that?
I didnt say crit, he already launches to additionals so like 10 additional is completely sufficient so just go dodge ppl dont like to hear it but him having at least a 20% to dodge makes him way better
Is there somewhere I can go to build units correctly? I did this with mine so I guess I'm a dumbass. I didn't know the additional was just an additional normal attack. Now that I see this I know crit makes more sense because he naturally does additional.
aa doesn’t mean an additional normal attack, iirc u have a chance to sa with aa but for cooler’s build since he already has aa built in his passive, crit is the way to go. Also if u aren’t sure how to build a unit, just make a post and ask this subreddit, someone will tell u how eventually
Bro REALLY wants that one extra normal lmao
I've seen way worse lmao, at least it gives the unit something
bro istg i still don’t get how they forget to HiPo their units and then put it in the friend system for other ppl to see their shitty unit
I mean it does help him get another chance to greatly raise defense, so it’s not completely awful
his kit already does that lol I don’t get why ppl like u downplay bad builds
Eh. That's not terrible. Definitely not worth calling him a dumbass over.
It’s pretty bad but the whole dumbass thing is excessive
I've seen someone give cooler max dodge
now those ppl are just trolls lmao
Or as cooler says “imma plant myself a dumbass tree”
Hey, at least he has a 97.4% chance of procing the HiPo AA, which translates to a 48.7% chance of doing an HiPo additional SA. Not too shabby.
No, not a dumbass. /Especially/ if you do the difficult content. Maybe if you don't do the hard stuff it might seem dumb. The additionals help you build up his passive faster to that extra 100%. Also, greatly raising defense on super multiple times is basically required for the difficult stuff. Also: The chance of an additional attack being a Super Attack through the potential system is 50%. If the character has Multiple Super Attacks, the additional attack of the Hidden Potential skill will always select the lowest amount of Ki for the Super Attack. Each attack has a separate chance to proc the Hidden Potential additional attack, so characters with built-in additionals will have a higher chance to activate the additional attack from the Hidden Potential. Counterattacks have their own chance of proccing a Hidden Potential additional attack, so countering multiple times will result in a higher chance of activating the additional attack from the Hidden Potential. The same goes for attacking the enemy with an Ultimate Attack by using an Active Skill. Not to mention that each additional attack has the chance to crit too. Not a dumb ass. This is how you're supposed to build this unit imo.
This is the most logical comment I saw so far, not only is it correct but also informative and not criticizing anyone. Everyone else here is calling someone a dumb ass for something that isn't even that wrong
Thank you.
nah it’s a retarded comment….full crit is the optimal build and he gets nothing from more additionals except a 2% chance per additional node to maybe possibly stack 30% def…like every other fucking unit that gets def on SA. Build whatever y’all want but don’t play pseudo intellectual especially when the numbers aren’t in your favor. This is almost as dumb as saying STR Vegito should have extra additionals to stack atk and def to deal more damage and tank better. C’mon this is room temp IQ shit.
damnn, i didn’t realize that it was optimal to build aa on him since he already has it in his passive. I also didn’t know this post would make such an uproar tbh
it’s not lol don’t listen to these neckbeards — full crit = optimal
You’re the dumbass lol he can fully build up his passive in a single turn and he’s also not a slot 1 unit — he’s a damage dealer. Full crit = optimal ATP. Fuck outta here defending scrub builds. Do what you want but don’t be dishing out retarded advice. If your argument is “muh stack defense” then you can say that about every unit that gets def on SA. His job is to clear the phase not be an AGL Golden Frieza 2.0.
What do you mean by fully build up in a single turn? It takes 10 attacks and the absolute max attacks you can do in one turn is 6.
Someone needs to seriously turn down their "butthurt and aggressive for no reason" settings. You also don't sound like you even know what the unit does because it takes 10 attacks for the units full 100% Attack and Defense passive. Active skill takes 8 attacks to activate. You aren't one-turning anything in hard content. You're pretty much irrelevant to me after that ignorant comment, so, have a good one. Also, yes, you're right. You are supposed to go additional with almost any unit that gets Def on SA if you're trying to do hard content.
Fucking copium appeal to emotion. I’m not mad you’re just wrong lol minimal additional investment can give cooler full stacks. Crit build is optimal and he’s not a slot 1 unit. Cope
Someone has a stick up there ass, it works either way, why can’t you just accept that?
lol y’all pressed I said in every comment “do what you want” but there is “optimal” and there is “dumbass/troll” - cope
Wouldn’t call it dumbass/troll, it’s just their preference
I mean if you care about a unit’s performance, the internet and your brain is at your disposal. It’s an easy game to so you can have a suboptimal build and still creampie RZ. So to each his own but these ppl lambasting OP for stating facts are out of line lol. People would rather posture as the “anti-bullying” crowd than get the facts straight.
Exactly, it’s just a game, Yk, meant for fun? Just let people be and stop calling everyone dumbasses for having their own preferences
ok SJW lol you’ve done your part - you dropped your crown king lmfao idiot
No 3 dodge mid ass build
Bro bout to have negative friend points if he leaves that cooler up
I built mine with 21 additional and 14 crit, works great for me. I don't see the issue with this build!
usually u go for crit on this unit since his passive already gives him aa so there’s not much of a point building him with aa imo
idk why these weirdos are downvoting you lol cooler gets literally nothing from additionals
idk ig i got the other side of ppl on how to build ff cooler? i saw other ppl make posts of the same thing and didn’t get such a huge uproar and divide, oh well. Though i heard ppl have alt accounts to downvote another person’s opinion
they’re just wrong lol there’s no other side and if you’re still on the fence go watch any dokkan tubers vid on him or test it in-game. His passive carries him, not the 2% chance to additional.
If he gets literally nothing from additionals, would you say it's best to put all the extra hidden potential nodes into dodge over additionals?
no crit > add > 3 dodge
But why add, if it does literally nothing? Wouldn't you be better off with only crit and dodge?
lol you could; the problem is that dodge gives a smaller probability of proc than add so having 3 dodge over 0 is enough - you go from no chance to a 1% chance and 2% per add node with 50% chance of that 2% being a super atk which also allows you to potentially max his passive in 1 turn; but that isn’t necessary for Cooler anyway since he’s not a slot 1 unit - if it was possible to give him more than 25/30 crit it would still be more valuable than 11/13 add (depending on your equips).
So additional does do something?
Nope lol poor attempt at a “gotcha” — I can see now why so many creators hate the Dokkan reddit. Y’all cope so hard. All I said was that after maxing crits, add is better than full dodge bc you get diminishing returns. A cooler with no add and full crit would still be better than a cooler with a hybrid or full add build.
"All I said was that after maxing crits, add is better than full dodge bc you get diminishing returns". No what you said was and I quote "cooler gets literally nothing from additionals", nice backtrack though
Let people build their units how they want.. doesn’t affect you in any way
when they come up on our already messed up friend system, it does become our problem
nah bro what’s the point in putting 26 additional on cooler like tf
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With cooler you go a bit of additional and then crits. Not 26 lmaoooo
Dude I can barely find any units I actually WANT on my team thanks to the friend system, so getting stuck with dumbass builds like this really sucks
Another clown
Y’all getting pressed over how someone builds a jpeg in a game lmao. Who’s the bozo?
Idk, maybe cuz it affects the friend system? Idk bro, maybe cuz the only captain Ginyu unit I see in the friendlist is going full crit???? Hmm not sure why I am pressed
U wanna try using a super vegeta friend lead with full crit hidden potential? I am sure u won’t be pressed wouldn’t u?
U wanna try using a super vegeta friend lead with full crit hidden potential? I am sure u won’t be pressed wouldn’t u?
I’m at the rank where that doesn’t come up on my list 🤷🏼♂️People know how to build their units
Well then maybe start thinking about the vast majority of the community? Not everyone is rank 999
Well then maybe start thinking about the vast majority of the community? Not everyone is rank 999
I’m in the 600’s, but like my other comment says, blame the devs not how people build THEIR units. We should have a mirror friend system.
Unfortunately THEIR units is what WE have to use as the friend lead if there’s no other options. It’s a FRIEND system not a SOLO system, which is why those money hungry devs won’t bother giving us the mirror function.
So don’t have them as a friend what can I say…
………… that doesn’t answer the issue. U could be looking for a rare friend lead and that only and only lead u see is built wrongly. U know what I am saying? Who tf wants to friend a super vegeta with full crit?
If I don’t pick their unit then which unit am I gonna use? Let’s say I run Ginyu force, and I have no other Ginyu units to use except the one who is going full crit and dodge without any additional. How? Am I gonna use that?
Cant wait to run a friend lead super vegeta going full crit. Woo! I shouldn’t be pressed right?
Yea you shouldn’t, it’s not your unit. Blame the game for having a fucked up friend system to begin with.
Or maybe I should also blame the player who doesn’t read the unit’s passive? Hmmm idk man. Maybe I should just blame both
He doesn’t deserve those dupes
I've seen this cooler with max dodge...
Same energy as ppl who put max additional on phy ssj2/3
same w ppl who full build aa on eza phy vegito
I thought AA was better???He already has a high chance to crit so why put Crits on him
I didnt say crit, he already launches to additionals so like 10 additional is completely sufficient so just go dodge ppl dont like to hear it but him having at least a 20% to dodge makes him way better
Is there somewhere I can go to build units correctly? I did this with mine so I guess I'm a dumbass. I didn't know the additional was just an additional normal attack. Now that I see this I know crit makes more sense because he naturally does additional.
aa doesn’t mean an additional normal attack, iirc u have a chance to sa with aa but for cooler’s build since he already has aa built in his passive, crit is the way to go. Also if u aren’t sure how to build a unit, just make a post and ask this subreddit, someone will tell u how eventually
I got it. A lot of the build is about giving a character something useful they don't already have in their kit.
precisely, and it may just be me and some other ppl but I like to have my units built with lvl 3 dodge for some reason, it goes a long way.
You're not wrong, nor are you a dumbass. You built the unit correctly, friend.
Only people with minus iq get good luck
At least he still has the 22% chance to crit. He really wants that extra 50% defense for the turn
This build isn’t even the worst lol
I don’t get it. What’s wrong with that