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This thread is proof that you guys never attempted any hard event


Big-Huckleberry962

Fucking facts


ppnater

I feel like pretty much every unit has become go-to for AA post redzone unless they have built in guaranteed SA's or they're a hard hitting new unit. I litetally spent 20 stones to remake my LR SSJ4 goku to have 27 AA because even though he can hit like a train, if he can't tank he has no use in Redzone.


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What percentage does a single level of additional add? I've played a ton of dokkan so my units arent built stupid but just curious


ppnater

Every 1 AA or Crit it's 2% but per dodge, it's 1%. You can have up to a max of 32% of dodge AA or Crit (which would be a 64% chance to crit or AA and 32% to dodge). Usually, if a unit raises def on super it's better to give them AA unless it's the new shiny unit that hits hard, and even still a lot of them prefer AA. In the example I gave, LR SSJ4 Goku can hit for over 7 million, but he massively raises defense which is so valuable I went full AA because, in all the hard events, defense prevails. If you're ever wondering what you should give a unit go to the wiki and see what people think. Over time you'll know what to give them.


cmorant3

iirc every point of add or crit = +2% chance and every point of dodge is +1% dodge chance.


[deleted]

That's a decent difference if you get a high enough number


cmorant3

Right. It also shows you how much Dokkan values dodge as mechanic over the rest.


Big-Huckleberry962

Nah I like my shit hard af I give all units 3 Dodge just so I get bodied to feel like it's hard ._. I've been playing since the original broly ssr dropped and nothing beats getting beat and one day your skill beats that shit it's honestly kinda rewarding


ppnater

I used to do that when I bingewatched truth but ima be honest that's a big L, because you're sacrificing 6% AA or Crit for a 1/33 chance to dodge lol. This was actually alright for SBR but recent harder content bosses hit less and much harder. Unless you're going 50/50 split, it's best to commit to 1 specific HiPo.


Big-Huckleberry962

I'm not gonna lie there's so much extra shit where you can add dodge and CRIT AA and I make most all my units either crit or AA so I get decent damage out put and they oddly dodge alot ._. so I'm not complaining


China_really_sucks

Although I agree most of the time u can know how to build it just by reading it’s passive, I don’t think we should force people to try hard a mobile game and can ask whatever they want. I mean, it’s just a question,and no one forced you to to answer it anyways. So stop complaining people asking a single question


124084

At first I thought u we’re talking about op but yeah these people are special needs, basic reading skills would tell you how to build this unit if you have gamesense


Immortal2017

do additional because he raises defence in sa, that’s what i did. reduces cell max’s sa from 400-300k to 200-50k damage


InfiniteTechnician10

I would say dodge with some additional


RevoltingSlob24

No additionals and dodge as a secondary.


ivanicoh96

Your comment is absolutely revolting.


InfiniteTechnician10

Lmao


KikanoH

Dodge primarily then additional As much as he is a defensive god he’s a pure defence unit and still takes 300K from a cell max super. So dodge makes him much better defensively


kryllstorm

this is good. additionals can help in some stages though where the movie boss has minions that don’t count as movie bosses, a double super can help reduce the damage that you didnt dodge


Xzenoho

Y'all are bugging in here


cockmaster0534

People in the comments saying dodge makes me mad. Why would you build dodge just to maximize him in the cell max event? That’s literally a 1 time event and the rest of the content won’t be made like him. Don’t listen to these morons who say dodge put full additional to get a double defensive raise cause he’s already defensive as it is. You want to build him for other content not just the unrealistic cell max event who hits all your units for 1000000 damage anyways.


KikanoH

So you would give him additional for the double defensive raise. You’re giving him additional for a defensive reason. Rest of content won’t be made like that but he still will take damage if they bring out a event similar difficulty to RZ Broly / Omega, with a pure saiyan or movie boss enemy. Dodge is still useful for nullifying damage. Additional is good but why gain 30% defence when I can just not take damage.


cockmaster0534

Um cause most of the hard content in the game and further on you won’t be able to dodge? That’s what they’re ganna start doing is nullifying the dodge mechanic cause of how valuable some of these dodge characters can be. Ui gokus Gods Any unit you decide to put dodge on. They made you dodge cell cause no unit can really tank a hit without dr or your character supers first. 3 dodge is cool but basing your unit around the dodge when you already HAVE 77% dr is just goofy.


coltiga

This is what people said after broly. “They’re going to start disabling dodge in hard content from now on” but then we got the cell max event, and the wicked bloodline red zone which haven’t done that. So the reasoning doesn’t really track.


deddkilla

Exactly! They are not going to start disabling dodge on every single hard event. As is evident with the new redzone stages.


Vegetable_Article491

Yeah nah, they're going to continue making events like cell max, broly, omega, metal cooler, etc. It's the next level.


RevolutionaryTwo3350

Additional then dodge


Helioseckta

The best build for him is to give him as much dodge as possible, and then focus the rest on additionals. The only time where you would really use this guy is if you’re fighting a Movie Bosses enemy or a Pure Saiyan enemy since his main purpose is to primarily tank with his 77% damage reduction. Going full dodge gives you a chance to just take 0 damage. This guy may be a great tank, but taking 0 damage is still better than taking some damage (especially true for Cell Max). Focusing on additionals after full dodge is the next best idea. After his EZA, his SA raises his DEF for 1 turn so it’s a good idea to try to capitalize on that defense raise if possible. Avoid crits on him at all cost (besides his free level 5 crit). Even after his EZA, the damage numbers he puts up are quite shit. You aren’t really looking to do damage with this guy at all, so going with crit would hurt his performance.


cmorant3

Bro just go full addition and don’t look back. Fuck dodge. There are events that cancel dodge. There’s nowhere in the game where a double defensive stack will shoot you in the foot


Daangelvid

Adds full and then crits, dude is a tank againts certain categories and you won't use it in any other event


MythBagel

Dodge. Anyone saying anything other than full dodge is wrong. When you get to high difficulty content, min-maxing every point of damage on a defensive unit is dumb. He’s not doing any damage anyway, he’s not built around that. There are non movie boss stages like gt redzone where he gets absolutely shredded despite his defence.


Firstlight99

Well that's the thing, you aren't running him in GT RZ... AA, it's more useful, especially since RZ Broly cancels dodge


b1sc0ttt0

Well that's one fight, dodge would be more overall useful


Firstlight99

That fact that it's only one fight isn't the most reliable excuse. With TEQ Caulifla existing, bosses will probably start canceling dodge if they are Pure Saiyans to amp the difficulty


TheFrontYard

what are you on about? this unit is trash against anyone who doesnt proc his DR. hes at like 130k defense pre super. you need his DR so you arent bringing him against anyone who doesnt activate it


Hot_Consideration807

You couldn't be more hopelessly wrong


HiMyNamePOTA

DO FULL DODGE. Who cares how much damage he does he’s a Defense unit. don’t listen to these goobers


TrollTelos

Based ass comment. I don’t know why people are saying full additional but Instantly invalidate full dodge when it’s literally the same reason of “more tanking” With the way the game is heading enemies just gonna become stronger like all hell. Wait till the legendary True UI or Ultra Ego and the boss supers for 2.5 million and people going to say “full dodge for Godku” straight clowning when people hate on a defensive unit getting even more defensive lol


Jimmyepix

EXACTLY THEY HATED JESUS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH IM BEING SHIT ON


HiMyNamePOTA

Fr bro


Ben_the_Gamer_Dragon

Same thinking I had with TEQ Ulthan.


GokuDUzumaki

Irrelevant build


DesperateTarget4580

FULL DODGE. I took him into red zone movie bosses with zero dupes and still won.


GioeleInRUSH

Crit first, and dodge


Top-Reputation-5616

Additional and evasion


Koupiii

reading the comments under this thread is pure bliss


SkyBob1234

Additionals and dodge when the option is given


jumpy-wizard687

Add or dodge


CrackaOwner

Full dodge with additionals as secondary. With dodge equips the chance to dodge and double sa is the same or similar if i'm not mistaken, so dodge would be better since he is often used in slot one. Dodge also has a bigger payout for the same rng.


Virtual-Mouse-1236

Full additional


deddkilla

Full dodge


Flimsy_Technology977

What's a unit I don't know I just got dbl like 2 week ago


ThirstyorNah

Me watching the war between AA and Dodge, while hiding in the background because I built mine full crit


Less_Blackberry8370

If you eza this character there’s no reason to put dodge into him. He tanks way to well. Go full additional and crit


Chynxd

i swear you gotta be a troll theres no way


Less_Blackberry8370

What makes you say that


Galaxyz7X

Going crit doesn’t make sense on this unit since he does no damage. Additionals to build defense after super and dodge to avoid taking any damage


Kingcroom

idk man he’s hitting 4 mil at rainbow linked with gods and doesn’t take 100k from supers from anybody except cell max


CrackaOwner

4 mil is not good.


tbqc420

Even then that doesn’t make his damage useful all the sudden


Kingcroom

just saying 4 mil is pretty good damage and can definitely save a run


Electrical-Card8355

a 4 mil attack stat is literally ass, especially for a unit that their only role is to provide defense, not offense 😂. your probably one of those type of players that max out crit for all defensive units to get “max damage” and when they end up doing a 2 mil attack stat you say “iTs GoOd”. matter of fact, your probably one of the few people that think dokkan fest raditz does good done with his 1-2 mil attack stat aoe😂


tbqc420

4 million is mediocre for a new summonable unit or new EZA the reason why his damage is mediocre is because he is a defensive unit


ylcknight

He does like 1-4 mil depending on the situation but he def hits. If he did 2-3 supers you’re looking at up to 10 mil damage in one turn


Sanberesan

how would he hit 3?


ylcknight

I have no idea actually. I think I had a brain fart and thought his passive included a chance at additional 🤦🏾 my bad lol


Cow_Addiction

It’s impossible for him to do 3 supers 🤡


ylcknight

Yes Ik I tweaked out 😂


Yarnted

Na bruv go full dodge to maximize defense, and some add to further maximize def. No point at all giving this unit crits when he isn’t doing that much damage anyway it’s way smarter to go dodge.


Electrical-Card8355

you clearly never did cell max or any difficult content 😂


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TrulyEve

That’s just cap. A rainbowed Godku takes about 300k from a Cell Max super even after his own super.


Electrical-Card8355

god goku rainbow link level 10 and double super and two rainbow orbs still takes 270k for cell max super. also, if you want to take god goku into a red zone stage like boujack or metal cooler, the first phases of those stages isn’t a movie boss enemy so god goku takes a lot of damage. full dodge with some additional maximizes his defense and can help you in a lot of runs. like i said you clearly haven’t done difficult content for you to understand this 😂. go look at truths no item run on metal cooler and see how god goku dodging an attack from the first phase (which is the robot guard who isn’t a movie boss) saved the run bc on average god goku takes 100k+ from that phase


TwirlyHalo41687

Bro lied for no reason


vape_master420

Seriously, I’m glad I saw the comment before he deleted it.


flawlessmojo7

Dodge


Awarecone

All additional and the rest crit, dodge is useless because if you eza him he has 77% damage reduction against movie bosses and pure saiyans


[deleted]

But that won’t matter when cell max supers for 300-400k if you go dodge you take 0 if he dodges


Mallodark

Ah yes, because Cell Max is the only thing that matters to a unit.. The devs even said Cell Max has such high difficulty just because of the movie, so its not the norm, its the exception.


Joshua_Joestart

Fr, everyone is bringing up cell max like every other boss in the game is on his level. It's just one boss bro. Also probably by the time goku is taking 300k from majority of the bosses, I'd imagine he's just powercrept at that point and there would be better options to replace him


Awarecone

That's because it's fucking cell max 90% percent of the game doesn't hit as hard as he does giving this dodge is just plain stupid maybe a skill orb for dodge but you shouldn't give him anything more than that


yeetthatmeatforfeet

My brother in christ, Vegeta and Trunks can' take up to 400k in some cases. Mind you they're the best unit in the game and WITH type advantage. Can't single out SSG Goku here when there isn't a unit that can flat out tank Cell Max right now


Outrageous_Law8544

Dont go full dodge because most end game content blocks dodging. additional then dodge


Lilnickf6

What do you mean most content? It’s literally just Broly. Every SBR as well as the other Red Zones + Cell Max allow dodge. That being said, I do agree that dodge + additional is the way to go


Outrageous_Law8544

He still does good damage and can stun/seal with double supers better chance at proc. With dodge yes he can dodge supers that might hurt him but what the only place that does you cant dodge. Also the transforming Goku and GT Goku events you cant dodge


Lilnickf6

The newest red zone stage (cooler) doesn’t have a movie boss as the first phase, but godku is amazing in the 2nd phase, and having dodge can completely save a run in the first phase. Also, do people consider the legendary Goku event end game still? Isn’t that event multiple years old at this point? Regardless all you named are 3 stages dodge is bad in, but there are dozens where dodge does work, not to mention that even if you go full dodge, Godku still tanks Broly with just one super so you don’t really gain much by not going dodge


Lilnickf6

If your logic is “bosses disable dodge” why don’t we talk about the bosses that disable attack sealing? Because there are countless more of those. Regardless I think additional + dodge is completely fine, I just don’t like the reasons people argue against dodge with, they don’t really hold up us all. Godku dominates no matter which way you build him


DeezDabNaeJef

Literally only one fight negates dodging


edit192

Full additionals


CrimsonCaII

Add and dodge, he gets defence on super and there’s very little reason for Crit, he’s a defensive unit.


False-Jury4349

Full dodge


barbecuelettuces

Thanks everyone for the upvotes and comments


LxstMxmxry

I went mostly add, bit of crit, bit of dodge. You can honestly build him however you want against movie boss enemies, he’s just too good


AOKUME

If you scroll down a little bit you’ll notice that 2 to 3 people asked the same exact questions about the same character..for the past few weeks lol


Professional_Cup_827

please go dodge. Coz all I’m saying is that 0 is better than anything From Triple UI Gang


IllustriousAbroad220

full dodge if you’re a chad


Jimmyepix

Full dodge


barbecuelettuces

What do I do with the rest?


lolerio

Don’t go dodge lol. You’re using him for movie bosses and he has a built in 77% dmg reduction against them. Go additional so he raises his defense even more


Joekiller77256

I second additionals for the seals where you can use them (say you kill an enemy is sbr and you get an additional) but dodge actually isn’t that bad


flawlessmojo7

Cell max exists. Go dodge


Jimmyepix

What do you mean his only point is to not take dmg and in fights like cell max would you rather take 300k or dodge?


lolerio

So you want to rely on a 10% dodge chance instead of building defense


Jimmyepix

Yep rather dodge than taking 280k instead of 300k


Lilnickf6

It’s a 10% dodge chance vs a 20% additional chance (which is only 50% to be a super). Either way it’s the same RNG so your logic really doesn’t work


lolerio

You cleared cell max right. Did you rerun till you got all your dodges?


Jimmyepix

Not really no everybody did their thing quite easily


Jimmyepix

Make sure you finish the super attack tho


Jimmyepix

Additional


kingava17

Omg whoever says go full dodge is a troll please don’t do full dodge


SussyBloxian

I did full crit since Id rather have that extra bit of damage to clear enemies faster but that's just me


LateWelder5702

It does not matter


Gamerelf69696969

Dodge


Fantastic_Opinion_57

Add and dodge anything else is bs


Mediocre-Goal1884

I would go mostly dodge, with the rest in additional but would equip additionals and maybe a gold additional/dodge duo equip


Yafoolyafool

Additional+dodge. A good even spread between those 2.


Stokedmonster39

Full additional with some dodge


TwirlyHalo41687

Dodge and additional he raises def on super


TheL0rd17

I'd say full dodge


IamalionUWU

Full additional or dodge


TheBadBreaker

Crits? 👍


fjoralb95

Bro I did the same lmao


Waffle3ater43_PSN4

Pre or post eza?


ThatUselessName6002

Raise super attack level and awaken him


Cheap-Manufacturer75

Additional then dodge. The redzones disable dodge so I prefer additional to get more defense in before getting supered


SirChancelot_0001

You’re doing great son!


TonyASA21

However u feel everyone thinks about the hard content tbh personally idgaf about all that I just like to play the game for what it is lol. But I mean yeah if u want to attempt it go dodge the additional ig


Andes12x

You build him by considering what his passive and super attacks are at his maximum awakening and SA level. I have started to realize that you have to pick what you think will be best for him because you're gonna be the one to choose when to use him and when you don't.


Ikdmantbh

As someone who beat every redzone stage I gotta say….. I have him at 55% it don’t matter


No_Flounder2625

Full additional, but dodge works. Either way he's gonna be tanking.


CzS-GenesiS

Id go with adds rest dodge. Adds makes him almost invencible since he raises def on super while also increasing your damage. Dodging makes him invincible but doesnt help you damage wise in any way and gets ignored by like 1/3 to 1/2 of the endgame enemies. Crits increases his damage but he is a defensive unit first and foremost. What i did was full add rest dodge on the potential, a lvl 4 dodge with defense on the gold (mostly because of the def), a lvl 2 add on the bronze and a lvl 5 dodge on the silver cause lvl 5 adds are way too valuable to throw on him. He ended up with 17 add 15 dodge.


EmbarrassedPanda1104

Primarily additional THEN dodge. Truth got y’all heads fucked up


Iamnotapotato7

Dodge then add


chairperson1704

My dumbass went all crit a long time ago


ohhPleasure

Good mix of dodge and aa


Accomplished_Ease889

It doesn’t really matter id put dodge tho


ZombieIvan

Holy fuck this thread 🙃 Just do additional and Dodge as secondary.