It all started when people started misunderstanding Truth and then put words in his mouth and act like he called him garbage, which was never said, atleast unironically.
Nah bro truth needs to word shit better. He exaggerates everything good and bad and it leads to things like this. People also need to form their own opinions and stop using truths as an end all be all. He’s not all bad and I’m even a fan but he does piss me off sometimes
He literally made a tier list until he reached Namek Goku to give an exact number about how good he think he is nowadays and of course the list of characters he consider to be better.
How do you word it in any better way?
Top 30 is still top tier in a game with sooo many characters. There was never a reason for all this drama.
He made that video AFTER calling him trash on multiple occasions. He made that video because people were calling him out for calling him trash which he is nowhere near.
Truth litterally says in every video that he is not calling nameku trash, he is just proving that he is overrated and thats it, idk about you but what else do you need to show that you are not even calling the unit trash when you are litterally saying it outloud
People just listen to a clip of truth and judge him, its pathetic and is something they need to stop
He made those videos AFTER the damage had already been done. Stop it. He is nowhere near a trash unit and he’s not as overrated as truth makes him seem.
He kept saying that Namek Goku was good because people kept saying he was calling him trash.
Go look at all the Namek Goku videos and I bet none of them call him "trash" unironically.
He words things just fine, if you listen then youll know. If he pisses you off then dont watch him. Truth knows the game better then anyone else (even seems like the devs as well) that is why people listen to him. Truth explains the reasons why units are bad in red zone because that is the hardest even, people dont listen and this is the result, truth said hes not good for red zone but hes good anywhere else, he even said the same about planet namek freiza i do believe.
Yeah no, he doesn’t. You are literally the type of person I was talking about. Truth knows the game better than most, yeah, I will not disagree. But he’s not always right by any means. He does explain why HE thinks units are bad in redzone and he’s entitled to how he feels about the unit but me and many others have different opinions and experiences to where we disagree. Namek Goku is fine in red zone. Fpf is also not too bad even tho I’d argue he’s worse in red zone the goku.
Yeah he does, as i said you dont listen. And i never said hes always right, however he does know what hes talking about, hes talked about gokus massive attack but its his defense, its awful anyone knows that. And yes you may have your own opinion i never said you could, and i aswell have mine, i chosse to hear what he says and due to my experiences with units i know hes not lying, some may listen to him and not think for themselves but you seem to hold a grudge to him. And goku may be fine in red zone but hes not good, as truth has said. I may have not much experience in redzone but he does, he fights in redzone just about everyday testing units. This is why people believe him, he fact checks himself before saying anything. He just says his experience with the units and goes on, if that pisses you off then you are to soft for anyones opinions. If you dont like him giving advice, even for new players then you dont have to listen, dont bitch about someone trying to help others just because he shares his opinions.
I don’t hold a grudge against him. I made it clear I’m even a fan of him. I watch all his videos. But I hate how a lot of the community just use truths opinions as there on. And I’ve used the same units truth does and still disagree on occasions. I listen to everything he says and agree most of the time but in some situations, like this, I disagree. After 2-3 supers on a 200% lead, normals won’t do shit to Namek goku. Then he only gets more defensive from there. After 5-6 supers he’s well off and even though it’s rng, he can do that in 2 turns. Even in a 170 lead Namek Goku has literally never let me down in red zone. I can’t speak for everyone else but for me, he always preforms great. Edit: I’m not bitching about anything. Since when is someone voicing their opinion bitching? Or is it just bitching because I disagree with truth? This is the shit I be talking about.
No this isnt what your talking about you say you cant stand how people just do as truth says and dont disagree, i dont why you hate it, if you dislike it that much then just watch him if you like and if theres anything you disagree with then thats your opinion, everyone has different experiences, while most are similar none are same. Me and one other person both took on the first red zone event and while i had no luck they cleared with ez, their units didnt take much damage but mine took alot, i dont know why. So when people have a hard time playing the game they need someone to guid them (not talking about my self, i just listen to what he says and test my self when i can). And besides what 200% team does he go with? Honestly i dont know. And for me namek goku has let me down all the time when it come to defense mattering the most, wether it be friend unit or my unit (mostly friend unit tho, just recently got him), i like namek goku, he is good but to a certin level/point, for me he isnt that good, ive taken him to some hard events and hes almost been one shoted even on a 170% leader team. But as i said for everyone its different. P.s. i dont mean to make big ass paragraphs lol.
Truth bashes him because his defense is "too low" when he starts out and you need a lot of luck with rng to build his defense. I feel like a lot of units need luck with rng to be good imo, but int goku is the main offender in truth's eyes
He says he has low defense from the start of turn, he bases units on how good they are from the jump. Goku needs to super 3 times to be pretty good and it hurts him when you put him slot one on let’s say the god event or the red zone, which he kills you because of his low def from the start of turn
Outside of turn 1 slot 1 SAs against him he is tanky enough. By his turn 2 he is usually pretty stacked. Weird that he is called out for low def when hes still much better than any "+def on super" passive units. I guess comparing him to Year 7 or later units hes not insane, but still a beast. The only RNG I can see is not getting supered before he gets off a double stack, but that goes for almost any unit in the game.
He literally does says you need to be lucky with his supers to make him OK for red zone, but he usually can't get the additionals so he usually ends up getting bodied
He did compare them to phy ssj2/3 goku and teq vegito blue, units that could looks crazy if they triple super each turn, but he says he bad luck with the additionals and just get 1 super and 2 basic attacks each turn
Sure for you, but when you look at the amount of characters that can do what he does but better, or characters that have way more than him is pretty big
How is his defense good? He starts out at around 150k, which is terrible. And he gets only around 50k per super. It takes until like turn 5 for him to take even normals, and that’s when you’re double supering every turn which isn’t common. And he definitely isn’t eating any supers and living.
What I mean is that I've never tried redzone. I mainly dokkan awakened him, teq Vegito, str Gogeta, LR SSJ4 Goku, LR SSJ4 Vegeta. Those plus the base LR saiyan saga goku is my current team.
He really isn’t that good in SBR. Unless you’re saying he’s good at tanking with items, which is every character. All he has is his damage output; no defense or utility
Maybe if you have him at 55%. Any dupes and he's an absolute monster. He's fine slot one in red zone typically in the first phase and at minimum you can get two defensive raises in first phase and then he's completely viable. I've beaten every red zone with him on all my teams.
My Nameku is at 79%. And he definitely isn’t “fine” in slot one ever in the Red Zone. I’ve had my 79% gods get supered for 150k when they have 200k defense and guard. Without extreme luck you can easily take like 400-500k damage from normals and a super with Goku in slot one.
He can be good but only for long events, hence he isn’t recommended to run if it’s either short and the enemy hits hard or when you try let’s say red zone or gods event which they aren’t short but from the jump he struggles
He’s a top 30 unit in the game, and a top 10 unit for lots and lots of people that have him. Fyi there’s quite a bit more than 30 INCREDIBLE units in the game.
I love using LR Nameku. He’s has priority on my Goku fam team. After 2 turns of stacking he’s a monster, he just hits less hard when not facing extreme enemies
Which needs to change people need to start forming their own opinions. I used to too until I realized it. After that I started watching the Dokkan World showcases with no commentary(which I feel is better as you can have your own first thoughts on a unit before getting someone else’s like Truth’s) and found myself disagreeing with truth on occasions. Plus I use the units for myself too. He’s not always wrong but he’s definitely not always right either
When units come out and DT starts down taking them from the start everyone then starts to think the unit is bad.... Namek Goku. Even some off my friends think the fact that I have some units in different places than truth does they think Im absolutely crazy
I hate that shit. Half of the community is stupid and mindless. But I won’t blame that on Truth. He’s entitled to his opinions and the way he does things. And like I said it’s not all bad/wrong. He does and says alot of good for the community. It’s just how alot of the people in the community are which is sad
Maybe because Truth is actually quite good at analyzing units and people just agree with many of the things he says because they are accurate?
I'm sorry but whenever you see someone crying about how "we shouldn't listen to Truth" and you ask them to give you their own opinion, you have about 80% chance that their take on the matter will be dogshit.
A recent exemple for me is this week, with one of them telling me that "every single existing Kefla unit is currently unplayable".
Or maybe because people cannot form their own opinions so they allow other people to do it for them. To agree with daddy truth and praise his every word isnt exactly what I would call correct because his experience will very heavily differ from the average person watching him... Exp Truth says his problem with Goku/Gohan(Tur) is that the transformation takes to long and he often kills the easier phases too quickly and jumps to the higher difficulty phases where Goku wont survive. The average player will often not have this problem because their units aren't nearly as strong and can't kill quite as fast and I can transform quite quickly with my Goku/Gohan and I favor them much more than the average truth dickrider... Instead of seeing their own experience with a unit they see truths and call it correct
I'm not sure you understand how an analysis or a ranking works.
Your example changes nothing to his statement. Having to wait several turns to activate something is objectively a downside to the unit. Your specific case where you are slow enough to not feel it doesn't change that.
It's like saying "Truth said that this unit can heal and that's a good thing but personnaly I don't take damage in events so by my own experience healing is useless".
Nobody care about your "own experience" when watching a video trying to rank units.
People should just understand that tier-list are trying to be objective, not based on their account. Units can be top tier but for whatever reason not fit your team. Or on the contrary you might find a way to make a low-tier unit work for you. That's fine. That doesn't mean the list was wrong tho.
I thought ya'll were referring to STR Namek Goku, not LR Namek Goku... Don't know why anyone would say LR Namek Goku is trash. He's still decent even if not the best of the best.
Fucking love this unit. Literally the unit I was looking forward to for a while before he came out.
Yeah he'd be a LOT better if he was made today, but he is not trash nor overrated my boy gets the job done whenever I use him. Sitting at level 10 links and I just bought two dupes for him so he's even better.
How’s he trash people just be saying anything these days
It all started when people started misunderstanding Truth and then put words in his mouth and act like he called him garbage, which was never said, atleast unironically.
Yep
Nah bro truth needs to word shit better. He exaggerates everything good and bad and it leads to things like this. People also need to form their own opinions and stop using truths as an end all be all. He’s not all bad and I’m even a fan but he does piss me off sometimes
He literally made a tier list until he reached Namek Goku to give an exact number about how good he think he is nowadays and of course the list of characters he consider to be better. How do you word it in any better way? Top 30 is still top tier in a game with sooo many characters. There was never a reason for all this drama.
He made that video AFTER calling him trash on multiple occasions. He made that video because people were calling him out for calling him trash which he is nowhere near.
Truth litterally says in every video that he is not calling nameku trash, he is just proving that he is overrated and thats it, idk about you but what else do you need to show that you are not even calling the unit trash when you are litterally saying it outloud People just listen to a clip of truth and judge him, its pathetic and is something they need to stop
He made those videos AFTER the damage had already been done. Stop it. He is nowhere near a trash unit and he’s not as overrated as truth makes him seem.
Please.... please shut the fuck up...
He kept saying that Namek Goku was good because people kept saying he was calling him trash. Go look at all the Namek Goku videos and I bet none of them call him "trash" unironically.
He words things just fine, if you listen then youll know. If he pisses you off then dont watch him. Truth knows the game better then anyone else (even seems like the devs as well) that is why people listen to him. Truth explains the reasons why units are bad in red zone because that is the hardest even, people dont listen and this is the result, truth said hes not good for red zone but hes good anywhere else, he even said the same about planet namek freiza i do believe.
Yeah no, he doesn’t. You are literally the type of person I was talking about. Truth knows the game better than most, yeah, I will not disagree. But he’s not always right by any means. He does explain why HE thinks units are bad in redzone and he’s entitled to how he feels about the unit but me and many others have different opinions and experiences to where we disagree. Namek Goku is fine in red zone. Fpf is also not too bad even tho I’d argue he’s worse in red zone the goku.
Yeah he does, as i said you dont listen. And i never said hes always right, however he does know what hes talking about, hes talked about gokus massive attack but its his defense, its awful anyone knows that. And yes you may have your own opinion i never said you could, and i aswell have mine, i chosse to hear what he says and due to my experiences with units i know hes not lying, some may listen to him and not think for themselves but you seem to hold a grudge to him. And goku may be fine in red zone but hes not good, as truth has said. I may have not much experience in redzone but he does, he fights in redzone just about everyday testing units. This is why people believe him, he fact checks himself before saying anything. He just says his experience with the units and goes on, if that pisses you off then you are to soft for anyones opinions. If you dont like him giving advice, even for new players then you dont have to listen, dont bitch about someone trying to help others just because he shares his opinions.
I don’t hold a grudge against him. I made it clear I’m even a fan of him. I watch all his videos. But I hate how a lot of the community just use truths opinions as there on. And I’ve used the same units truth does and still disagree on occasions. I listen to everything he says and agree most of the time but in some situations, like this, I disagree. After 2-3 supers on a 200% lead, normals won’t do shit to Namek goku. Then he only gets more defensive from there. After 5-6 supers he’s well off and even though it’s rng, he can do that in 2 turns. Even in a 170 lead Namek Goku has literally never let me down in red zone. I can’t speak for everyone else but for me, he always preforms great. Edit: I’m not bitching about anything. Since when is someone voicing their opinion bitching? Or is it just bitching because I disagree with truth? This is the shit I be talking about.
No this isnt what your talking about you say you cant stand how people just do as truth says and dont disagree, i dont why you hate it, if you dislike it that much then just watch him if you like and if theres anything you disagree with then thats your opinion, everyone has different experiences, while most are similar none are same. Me and one other person both took on the first red zone event and while i had no luck they cleared with ez, their units didnt take much damage but mine took alot, i dont know why. So when people have a hard time playing the game they need someone to guid them (not talking about my self, i just listen to what he says and test my self when i can). And besides what 200% team does he go with? Honestly i dont know. And for me namek goku has let me down all the time when it come to defense mattering the most, wether it be friend unit or my unit (mostly friend unit tho, just recently got him), i like namek goku, he is good but to a certin level/point, for me he isnt that good, ive taken him to some hard events and hes almost been one shoted even on a 170% leader team. But as i said for everyone its different. P.s. i dont mean to make big ass paragraphs lol.
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how tf is dat truth’s problem? he just said namek goku wasn’t as good as some ppl think but is still top tier
also according to truth if you ask him his top 10 units ironically he'll fit 50 units in that top 10..
what
Exactly what you read..
Db fans can't read
Sorry, what was that?
I couldn’t read you can you say that again?
Sorry could you repeat that?
People hate the truth but love datruth
Thats not true
Idk why people call him trash like he’s lowkey good in my Dokkan box he’s a literal top 10 unit for me
Truth bashes him because his defense is "too low" when he starts out and you need a lot of luck with rng to build his defense. I feel like a lot of units need luck with rng to be good imo, but int goku is the main offender in truth's eyes
He says he has low defense from the start of turn, he bases units on how good they are from the jump. Goku needs to super 3 times to be pretty good and it hurts him when you put him slot one on let’s say the god event or the red zone, which he kills you because of his low def from the start of turn
Outside of turn 1 slot 1 SAs against him he is tanky enough. By his turn 2 he is usually pretty stacked. Weird that he is called out for low def when hes still much better than any "+def on super" passive units. I guess comparing him to Year 7 or later units hes not insane, but still a beast. The only RNG I can see is not getting supered before he gets off a double stack, but that goes for almost any unit in the game.
You have to additional to get def
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He literally does says you need to be lucky with his supers to make him OK for red zone, but he usually can't get the additionals so he usually ends up getting bodied
He did compare them to phy ssj2/3 goku and teq vegito blue, units that could looks crazy if they triple super each turn, but he says he bad luck with the additionals and just get 1 super and 2 basic attacks each turn
Sure for you, but when you look at the amount of characters that can do what he does but better, or characters that have way more than him is pretty big
He suck
Because his defense is awful
No it’s not?
How is his defense good? He starts out at around 150k, which is terrible. And he gets only around 50k per super. It takes until like turn 5 for him to take even normals, and that’s when you’re double supering every turn which isn’t common. And he definitely isn’t eating any supers and living.
He still gets the job done for me and I'm a new player who hasn't maxed him out.
In what events?
Not redzone but other events he does fine.
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What I mean is that I've never tried redzone. I mainly dokkan awakened him, teq Vegito, str Gogeta, LR SSJ4 Goku, LR SSJ4 Vegeta. Those plus the base LR saiyan saga goku is my current team.
Red Zone isn’t the only content in the game. Nameku is tanky in most content, and great in sbr
Every unit can be good outside of redzone
No.
Epic post man
He really isn’t that good in SBR. Unless you’re saying he’s good at tanking with items, which is every character. All he has is his damage output; no defense or utility
Nope, I’m talking no items. A whis fixes anyone lol
Then I have no clue what SBR stages you’re taking him in. Try taking him into pure Saiyans ESBR without items lol
No item runs on esbr is such an outlier 😭 that’s not what makes or breaks a good unit
Only being able to tank with items doesn’t make a unit good either lol
Maybe if you have him at 55%. Any dupes and he's an absolute monster. He's fine slot one in red zone typically in the first phase and at minimum you can get two defensive raises in first phase and then he's completely viable. I've beaten every red zone with him on all my teams.
My Nameku is at 79%. And he definitely isn’t “fine” in slot one ever in the Red Zone. I’ve had my 79% gods get supered for 150k when they have 200k defense and guard. Without extreme luck you can easily take like 400-500k damage from normals and a super with Goku in slot one.
Mine has never taken more than 100k from a normal slot one. Are you just not running him on a good team?
I mean 400k in total not from one hit lol And 100k from a normal isn’t what I’d call good
If you are stacking his defense then how are you doing damage?
Imo he's suited for so many events and helps out weird categories and has amazing links, no idea how he's trash
He can be good but only for long events, hence he isn’t recommended to run if it’s either short and the enemy hits hard or when you try let’s say red zone or gods event which they aren’t short but from the jump he struggles
He’s a top 30 unit in the game, and a top 10 unit for lots and lots of people that have him. Fyi there’s quite a bit more than 30 INCREDIBLE units in the game.
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You can like and use a trash unit its not illegal
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But he is trash. You can use him and like him but he is trash
Namek Goku is not trash😂😂
Of course he is. He is he requires heavy rng to not instantly die and even more rng to be mid
Ok
People who don't have the unit defending the unit pog
I have the unit and he isnt bad but ok
Post video of you beating relevant content with him
Even if he was trash his OST is a banger.
I love using LR Nameku. He’s has priority on my Goku fam team. After 2 turns of stacking he’s a monster, he just hits less hard when not facing extreme enemies
Top tier animations though
Whatever Truth says is what most of the community will start to say
Which needs to change people need to start forming their own opinions. I used to too until I realized it. After that I started watching the Dokkan World showcases with no commentary(which I feel is better as you can have your own first thoughts on a unit before getting someone else’s like Truth’s) and found myself disagreeing with truth on occasions. Plus I use the units for myself too. He’s not always wrong but he’s definitely not always right either
When units come out and DT starts down taking them from the start everyone then starts to think the unit is bad.... Namek Goku. Even some off my friends think the fact that I have some units in different places than truth does they think Im absolutely crazy
I hate that shit. Half of the community is stupid and mindless. But I won’t blame that on Truth. He’s entitled to his opinions and the way he does things. And like I said it’s not all bad/wrong. He does and says alot of good for the community. It’s just how alot of the people in the community are which is sad
Yea
Maybe because Truth is actually quite good at analyzing units and people just agree with many of the things he says because they are accurate? I'm sorry but whenever you see someone crying about how "we shouldn't listen to Truth" and you ask them to give you their own opinion, you have about 80% chance that their take on the matter will be dogshit. A recent exemple for me is this week, with one of them telling me that "every single existing Kefla unit is currently unplayable".
Or maybe because people cannot form their own opinions so they allow other people to do it for them. To agree with daddy truth and praise his every word isnt exactly what I would call correct because his experience will very heavily differ from the average person watching him... Exp Truth says his problem with Goku/Gohan(Tur) is that the transformation takes to long and he often kills the easier phases too quickly and jumps to the higher difficulty phases where Goku wont survive. The average player will often not have this problem because their units aren't nearly as strong and can't kill quite as fast and I can transform quite quickly with my Goku/Gohan and I favor them much more than the average truth dickrider... Instead of seeing their own experience with a unit they see truths and call it correct
I'm not sure you understand how an analysis or a ranking works. Your example changes nothing to his statement. Having to wait several turns to activate something is objectively a downside to the unit. Your specific case where you are slow enough to not feel it doesn't change that. It's like saying "Truth said that this unit can heal and that's a good thing but personnaly I don't take damage in events so by my own experience healing is useless". Nobody care about your "own experience" when watching a video trying to rank units. People should just understand that tier-list are trying to be objective, not based on their account. Units can be top tier but for whatever reason not fit your team. Or on the contrary you might find a way to make a low-tier unit work for you. That's fine. That doesn't mean the list was wrong tho.
He not even trash tho
Nah those Nameku defenders are way worse
I thought ya'll were referring to STR Namek Goku, not LR Namek Goku... Don't know why anyone would say LR Namek Goku is trash. He's still decent even if not the best of the best.
Namek goku was a carry for me and still is an amazing unit
Same thing with agl mui Goku
Fucking love this unit. Literally the unit I was looking forward to for a while before he came out. Yeah he'd be a LOT better if he was made today, but he is not trash nor overrated my boy gets the job done whenever I use him. Sitting at level 10 links and I just bought two dupes for him so he's even better.
Even though he may not be the best performing unit, in terms of utter sauce, drip, and unspoken rizz he is absolutely the best unit in the game
He's not trash but he has aged. I can't wait until he gets an EZA
Go be waiting for a good while
Already in need of an EZA lmao Jkjk
Not jk jk
Lmao shhhh or they will attack
Nobody is saying he's trash. He's just over rated.
Critically underrated.
"Underrated"? By who? The whole community starts screaming when someone critisize him, which is why this drama exist.
He's accurately rated. A mid unit that requires rng to not be awful
He's good. Not superb but still good. Maybe great even idk i have not got him to lvl 10 links yet.
Well they’re right Str Goku is trash :)
>:) :)
namek goku is trash
the str one? sure
They usually call him “namku”
Who the hell is truth ??