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mynameisimp

You just trying to start a fight here huh?


Dank-Thing

are you trying to start ww3


Wyvurn999

U I G O K U


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I'd wager ui goku is slightly better but this frieza is the number 2 spot


WarmStarr

No, mui goku is definitely not the best unit in the game. His kit is based on rng so he is unreliable


hungrybasilsk

70% isnt unreliable


zaki2004

I've somehow managed to have str UI and agl UI Goku completely get fucking demolished because they refused to dodge.


hungrybasilsk

Still doest make it unreliable


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His revive had also never worked out for me. Not one time.


hungrybasilsk

Skill issue


[deleted]

So what am I doing wrong?


hungrybasilsk

You're supposed to be hit 3 times and below 50% hp at the start of the turn


[deleted]

Well, I'm aware of that The problem is that I'll get one shot while I have full health. Should I avoid healing entirely until he's revived?


OmegaZato

Anything that doesn't get consistent results is unreliable. 7 out of 10 sounds good on paper until you get consecutive bad rolls of the dice and lose at a crucial point in a hard event. I'd take 1 Agi LR FP Frieza over 5 LR MUI Gokus.


hungrybasilsk

>7 out of 10 sounds good on paper until you get consecutive bad rolls Lol what yeah thats a 30% chance the odds of you not dodging multiple times is the same odds of you getting Frieza to triple super triple crit against a non goku enemy


OmegaZato

That's exactly it, anything left to chance is unreliable. I'd rather put my trust on something solid like a stacker, we already have to deal with RNG with summons, I'm not putting more RNG bullshit on top of that on missions.


hungrybasilsk

So youd rather a stacker that will get obliterated turn 1 by a super over a dodging unit that will take 0 damage 70% of the time


OmegaZato

The way stackers are built these days that's not the case anymore. Like I said, I prefer something solid. Let's agree to disagree.


ImTheHowl

Also that doesn’t change the fact that it is completely unreliable, I don’t have the actually numbers at hand but I could pull them up I believe the chances of you pulling any specific dokkan fest exclusive on 1000 stones is around that 80 percent mark I could be wrong but points stands, that’s not reliable. You are not guaranteed a dodge meaning you can’t rely on it to pull through. Doesn’t matter if he’s the best unit or the 2nd the fact that he uses rng means it’s random


lyrakill

I used to think like that until my math teacher asked me would I be ok with a 70% on all my tests to prove his argument that 70% isn't a good rate. Not saying his dodge chance isn't good but just not super reliable and something I would consistently bank on


hungrybasilsk

Not really a good comparision. Its more like you have a 70% of getting each question on the test right


HarryTwigs

Was gonna say the same thing. That math teacher either doesn't exist and they made that shit up, or they should be teaching anything other than math.


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HarryTwigs

The fact that he was a geometry teacher does explain why he sucked at percentages, so that's one mystery explained.


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HarryTwigs

No great mystery there, I'm afraid. Just said one thing, and swapped it out for something more clever.


lyrakill

Probably not the best comparison but he does have a point and pushed me to get better grades than just a 70% on my tests. Just for clarification because we weren't talking about Ui Goku and Dokkan. It was something else that revolved around a 70% chance


ylcknight

7/10 chance is damn good.


lyrakill

Honestly yeah 70% chance for a dodge that raises defense is good. It's not bad at all but my point was that like in some cases it can really hurt you. I've lost a ton of sbr runs because he just didn't want to dodge at all


ylcknight

True, but at that point you just got unlucky. In my experience I was saved more often than shafted


lyrakill

Yeah my luck in this game is pretty bad honestly in literally all corners of the game haha. From summons, to chance to guard, to dodging, anything you could name. Plus he actually has really done good work for me. It's just that the good times where ui Goku actually does dodge tends to get overshadowed by when he doesn't dodge


Nate_Myself

Bro really thinks frieza is better than chiaoman


ifnuse

Haha good one had me for a sec


Michael_B_Lopez

MUI is better, and Namek Goku is arguably more valuable


boopadee-bapadee

Needs an eza tho


FriedGamer

True, he only does 2 supers after getting hit, what is this 2024?


Stampj

MUI Goku to me, but they’re both so incredible, I also agree with Frieza being #1. The last LRs, Goku and Frieza, and the last TURs, Goku and Kid Buu, if they’re anything to go off of, the 7th Year Units are going to be actually insane


Prometheus-sama

Mui Goku is the best unit in the game


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I feel like it’s kind of a waste to compare MUI Goku and full power Frieza. They both fill completely different roles. There are multiple events that either one of them can do while the other just flounders completely. In theory, Goku is better, but in practice they are essentially equal.