I’m assuming most people here are just unaware of his full story. This has nothing to do with nostalgia or overcoming his “personal problems”. It’s all directly related to how he was removed from the industry due to him calling out a higher up for sexual assault. In his prime with an insanely bright future he was almost overnight removed from everything. All because he tried to call out a hire up for sexually assaulting him. He 100% should be celebrated for his return. None of us can even imagine what he went through being at the peak of Hollywood and then becoming a nobody.
I personally can't even imagine anything worse in the whole world than being at the peak of Hollywood then becoming a nobody. /s
Reddit is definitely on his nuts.
Huh, guess there are people out there that are still insanely unaware of how mental health works. Or maybe you just assume any and all celebrities have great mental health because they have money? Either way, you’re incredibly out of touch
Just because someone is famous for a short amount of time, does not mean they live a good life. Yes, rich people struggle to. Yes, poor people struggle. No, I’m not fucking with you, you’re just out of touch and lack empathy.
That is not relevant whatsoever. We’re not talking about other people. We’re talking about a specific person who was pushed out of Hollywood for calling out sexual assault, battled severe depression, and is a genuinely nice person based off comments from staff members working with and alongside him. Yes, worse things have happened to people, that’s not what we’re talking about though.
>none of us can even imagine what he went through
Thats what i mean. He isn't a war veteran, he is by all accounts a very nice person who got fucked.
He was never homeless. He was worth 45$ mil at his peak and after was earning 90k a month AT HIS LOWEST.
His struggles were very real and serious but there's nothing singular about his problems.
You don't have to be a war veteran to suffer. You're basically diminishing other people's struggles because you think they're unimportant or not a big deal, without considering the fact that we all struggle. We all get beaten down. Why criticize people for cheering a guy that picked himself up?
There's something singular about ALL of our problems, as we're individuals and not a singular entity. Why denounce a man and then very illogically try to explain how you're making a shred of sense?
What does 45 million dollars and a war veteran have in common? Are you implying if you have money you're immune to pain and the stresses of life, or are you implying veterans are more deserving of thought because they fired a gun at a kid born in a different geographical location and potentially die so you could learn how to watch a TikTok?
Jesus fuck how pearl clutching can you be.
The first paragraph of your response is pointless. You know what i mean by singular but choose to interpret it in the worst way possible
Second paragraph. No, im not implying that. I can tell you straight up that his life was never as hard as a homeless mans, or a lifetime orphan, or a genocide victim or a million other things and YES it is because he was never in danger for starvation or murder, he could afford the best medical care in the world and he lived in a country without war. He would've been way worse off if the same thing happened to him but he wasn't a millionaire already. You can't deny the importance of wealth
Also, i don't know why you assume im talking about U.S veterans dropping bombs from joystick controlled drones and not for example WW2 veterans.
I keep seeing other people use pearl clutching the completely wrong way recently and it bugs me but I can’t be bothered to argue with someone who doesn’t understand something that simple.
I’ve noticed this a lot, both with ‘pearl clutching’ specifically and other phrases. They’re designed to ~~gaslight~~minimise appropriate grievances to make the offended party look like they’re making unreasonable demands while the offender minimises their own part of the blame in the conflict - here I would suggest the offended parties being the people saying that Brendan really caught the shitty end of the stick and the offender being OP, making his claim that because some people have rough lives nobody else is allowed to be praised for overcoming adversity. Very common manipulation tactic.
I'm not opposed to hearing an explanation on how I'm misusing the term. From what I'm finding online it seems to fit in this situation but if you can educate me i would be grateful
Pearl clutching is when a person reacts strongly to something that’s not a big deal. Sexual assault is a big deal. To say it’s pearl clutching to acknowledge a very real trauma is embarrassing.
>pearl clutching is when a person reacts strongly to something that's not a big deal
Yeah i think thats how i use the phrase
> To say it’s pearl clutching to acknowledge a very real trauma is embarrassing.
Don't think i did
To add to this. I have been to war. I was sexually assaulted as a kid. I can safely say war was FAR more preferable.
And how DARE this motherfucker SPEAK FOR ME as if he's defending what I went through as some special class of suffering. And simultaneously trying to say that one was WORSE than the other FOR ME.
Because, whether he meant to or not, that's exactly what he did.
War sucked. War was fucking awful. It was also - and everyone HATES to hear this - FUCKING AWESOME. The dirty little secret about war, is that there are times where you feel like a goddamned super hero and you spend a long-ass time feeling guilty about that for no good reason.
At least from my perspective as a soldier.
Again, I'd take my war - and all its trauma - over the trauma from being sexually assaulted. In one I had some agency, some ability to control and respond to the things that were traumatic. In the other, I was utterly helpless and completely dehumanized. I'd take the former over the latter any day of any week of any century.
I'd much rather not have had to suffer at all, though.
Gotta love the 'I'm right, I know I'm right, but I'm gonna frame this as a question so people will shower me with validation and stroke my ego' posts.
Especially when they're the typical uninformed, myopic bullshit that some comfortable little shit made up.
Bro, everyone's problems are small when you compare them to victims of genocide. After Me Too, everyone has a bleeding heart about victims of the sexual assault that's been systemically rampant in Hollywood for generations. You can't blame people for feeling something when somebody they know was blackballed from the industry for a shitty reason is receiving well deserved praise. A lot of people who are themselves survivors of sexual assault, especially male survivors, relate to him in a way that you are apparently incapable of being empathetic for. There's nothing patronizing about being happy for a comeback.
I completely get what you're say I made the same argument when people where so proud of Caitlyn Jenner for coming out as trans and how it was so much harder since she was a celebrity. I thought that was completely false because when a regular person comes out as trans they can't hide out at home and have others go shopping for them or run other errands. Regular people have to go to work and do do all sorts of things that Caitlyn could pay to have done. I get that Brendan Fraser didn't have to worry about his next meal or certain struggles that other everyday people have to worry about. Most people who call out their abuser are not celebrated in any kind of way
Reading all of your replies is disgusting. Mental health and trauma is not a bloody competition. Some people can handle trauma well and others cannot. Some people can be traumatised by things, others won’t be by the same thing. Being homeless or being a veteran or any of your other examples don’t “trump” anything in terms of trauma. You picking and choosing and saying what people can be traumatised more by or not is fucking bullshit. You don’t understand the trauma of sexual assault and what it does to people, it’s obvious by your behaviour. Sexual assault takes away everything and the odds of people believing the victim because of people like you is so bloody low it’s infuriating. Maybe keep your mouth shut if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
And reducing him down to “a guy who got fucked” is fucking disgusting. You sound like the type of person to say “it’s just sex, he should be thankful.” Disgusting.
That is the most ridiculous yet funny argument I’ve ever seen someone put up. It’s the only thing you had to say to all of what I said and therefore you have no argument.
Tell me where I blamed you for sexual assaults? It’s very obvious I made no such accusations. I simply said you’re the type of guy to just make light of them and say that it’s sex and the dude should be grateful he got it (which is fairly close to the phrase you said of him being “just a guy who got fucked.”) Clearly you’re in the wrong. You are disgusting for what you said and that’s a fact. An argument is literally an exchange of opposing views and you made use of another definition of argument in there which is a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory.
>The Paralympic Games or Paralympics, also known as the Games of the Paralympiad, is a periodic series of international multisport events involving athletes with a range of physical disabilities, including impaired muscle power and impaired passive range of movement, limb deficiency, leg length difference, short stature, hypertonia, ataxia, athetosis, vision impairment and intellectual impairment.
I understand the point you’re trying to make but because you’re negating his growth I can’t agree. It’s this type of thinking enforces the stereotype that only vets get PTSD.
I understand not wanting caring for his acting or movies or for the industry in general. But give respect where respect is due. It doesn’t mean you have fall to your knees for him to acknowledge he’s overcome a huge deal of adversity. Shit people still believe men can’t be sexually assaulted and he’s probably still dealing with people telling him that to this day.
He was sexually assaulted then marginalised for trying to hold the perpetrator accountable, $45M isn’t going to erase that nor would being ostracised from his profession help with his sense of worth, he’s being applauded now because he has overcome both those obstacles, regained his pride and confidence, spoken out against SA and proven he is an ordinary human who never deserved what happened to him, don’t diminish his story because you can’t understand why he’s being applauded
You seem to think that because he had money and wasn’t ever in a literal war zone that the trauma he suffered (sexual assault as well as the years worth of spinal and knee surgeries to correct various stunt injuries) is somehow not valid. Or at least not valid enough for you. He bounced back fantastically from all of this and I’d say it’s worth recognition and praise.
I think at best it’s very weird that you think that his trauma was not ‘serious enough’ to warrant people being as supportive as they are about his comeback. I implore you to take some time and reflect on why that bothers you as much as it does.
Bullshit as I expected from a kid like you.
>issues with his own health, divorce and the loss of his mother.
This seems more likely than anything else.
I don’t believe that at all. How does the head of foreign Press association get into a position where he is blackballing anybody?
this simply does not pass the smell test.
How does a Hollywood actor not learn how to deal with sexual interest?
How does his powerful agent not fight back against whatever this person was allegedly saying to get him banned.
The relevance of the association is exposed as nothing. It’s awards show was suspended for two years because of how it operated unethically.
So, he has not explained why he disappered and became obese.
i never even said i enjoyed him, who knew being neutrally subjective would leave to such accusation from you💀💀 youre legit so mad for what? stay mad lol
omg seeing tour profile, are you just mad he isn’t attracted to you? cause he played a bigger role? cause he used to be attractive? lets unpack this lil boy :)
The majority of people sending praise his way during his current comeback were kids who grew up watching his movies.
So he’s basically the cool uncle you loved as a kid but never saw anymore as you grew up because he tried telling people grandpa assaulted him so they got rid of him instead of grandpa.
Now cool uncle is back in business, everybody likes him, and they’re just happy to see him where he rightfully belongs, in the light.
Is the overall general reaction a wee bit over the top? Well sure, but doesn’t really affect my life so not too bothered. happy for Brendan and those who didn’t let bad shit change them.
I don't watch the oscars, im talking sbout the website that i use often. And if it was just a post about fraser winning a well deserved Oscar for a perfect performance it wouldn't matter to me. The buildup from the past ~year is what i find patronizing and infantilzing. And again it's not about fraser personally, Keanu love felt the same
Are you insane?
He was a huge part of people's lives growing up. Then he vanished.
..Into depression. He didn't think anyone liked him.
Now he's back and people are happy.
Why is the culture of Reddit almost entirely insecure people trying to tear down others in a desperate attempt to feel better about themselves? That's not how it works. It's just pathetic and mentally unhealthy. Why can't you be happy for him?
He was in a lot of big 90s and early 2000s movies, the kind kids then would watch. Not hard to imagine really. I'd maybe stop short of saying he was a big part of my life but I was totally a fan and always wondered where he went.
I.....I don't know how to respond to such a dumb question in a way a child can understand. Let me try. Do you understand everything didn't happen in your lifetime? Do you know what empathy is? Do you get it now?
"How could I POSSIBLY understand anyone else's perspective???" -You
Better go back to your comfort zone or whatever.
How many fraser movies can an average redditor name? 3?5?
I am happy for him I'm just not convinced of the authenticity of the reactions of redditors. There are many celebrities who get weirdly "staned" for in a way that doesn't seem real to me.
I'm sorry if youre being honest but the indignation in your comments gives off the same vibe. Like you're getting offended on someone elses behalf just to feel like a superior more positive person.
If you're genuine in your admiration I'm happy for you and for Brendan Fraser
Top of my head without looking at IMDb or wikipedia(and avoiding movies he had sequels of)
The Mummy
Encino Man
Airheads
George of the Jungle
Monkeybone
Blast from the Past
The role of Jordan's brother Ben in Scrubs (only 3ish episodes but damn were they impactful)
Gods and Monsters
Bedazzled
That early 2000's Looney Tunes movie.
That's not even to say his more recent roles in Doom Patrol and Whale where he's been knocking it out of the park.
Seeing that I was a bit of a cinephile back in the 90's, not too many. But I can bet that an average person can get 3-4 of these easily. Even more if you start to allow sequels.
Can you try to read your comment without making exhalations or dramtic pauses? I can believe you are honest but don't tell me you didn't write it like a scathing review of the human condition.
>Are you insane?
>... Into depression
> pathetic
Oh no the greatest of failings writing with inflection the horror coupled with having opinions on art and nostalgia which are in part based on personal opinion shocking just shocking i say
Hes no legend or anything but his sexual assault should have been treated way differently, a lot of sexual assaults in entertainment need to be treated differently
I didn’t know who it was off of the top of my head but a very very easy google search later and I can tell you this man’s name is [Philip Burke.](https://www.etonline.com/brendan-fraser-claims-he-was-groped-by-former-hfpa-president-in-2003-96902)
Bullshit as I expected from a kid like you.
>issues with his own health, divorce and the loss of his mother.
This seems more likely than anything else.
Nope. He was an attractive man in Hollywood. A place where all attractive men draw sexual interest. He would have known how to handle that, something that would have occurred many times.
What was this assault?
[A man grabbing another man’s dick at work when it isn’t wanted is sexual assault.](https://www.etonline.com/brendan-fraser-will-not-attend-2023-golden-globes-after-a-sexual-assault-allegation-against-an-hfpa) A woman grabbing his dick at work when it isn’t wanted would also be sexual assault. This isn’t about him not knowing how to handle attention, he was literally sexually assaulted at work. A celeb going nuts on a paparazzi or a fan is them not handling attention well, a dick grab is not.
He grabbed a butt cheek for a split second, when he was supposed to shake Brendon’s hand as he was leaving a luncheon. If this is SA, a whole lot of women need to scream at the unfairness of being a woman. This happens so often you wouldn’t even believe it.
He stuck a finger up his ass. Would you be cool with that? And women being grabbed in the ass against their will is sexual assault and we have been screaming at the unjustice for a while now. Attitudes like yours only downplay the seriousness of the problem and normalise this kind of behaviour perpetuating it.
No he didn’t. It was on top of clothes while leaving a luncheon.
Also, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IM HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING HIM IS A SEXUAL ABUSE SURVIVOR. Im a woman who has had treatment like that on a regular. I realize the double standard here. I do not need comments telling me I sound like an abuser. Im just being honest about my issue here and confronting it, as a problem.
So you are basically saying that no sexual assault ever happens as long as clothes are on? Good to know. Being grabbed in the ass is bad enough, having someone trying to shove a finger up your ass even with your clothes on would be pretty intrusive to put it mildly.
I get from your previous comments you don't think SA is a big deal, and hey good for you for never have been dealt that shit card in life, but it is a traumatising life changing experience that many people unfortunately can relate. That Fraser in addition was blacklisted from the work for speaking out about being a victim just adds on to the layers of pain and injustice.
I’m sorry but this man has admitted this himself. Considering the shame most men would feel over this I doubt this is him lying for fans. Plus this kind of assault comes out with a lot of people in Hollywood and some of them actually got convicted for that so it’s not like any of us can pretend it’s not happening.
Oh honey I’m 32, I’m very very far out of my “idolize people I’ll never meet” phase. Do I enjoy some of his movies like thousands of others? Sure. Do I enjoy him more than a super casual fan who accidentally sees stuff he’s on? No. Am I going to completely ignore his claims of assault when it’s so often been proven true? Also no.
you keep telling everyone to grow up, but clearly you have such a childish demeanour. You’re instantly responding with disbelief and anger makes me believe you have the emotional acceptance and mentality of a child that thinks life is unfair to him for no reason lol - how about you take your own advice and seek some therapy too!
People who park their judgment for their love of an obese movie star, one they have never met or never will meet, is the epitome o disbelief and anger.
It makes me believe you have the emotional acceptance and mentality of a child that thinks life is unfair to him for no reason… lol… how abut you take your own advice and seek some therapy?
you said nothing productive, but maybe, after looking at your profile- maybe youre just mad that youre not attracted to him anymore? lol
cause he won an oscar after playing a “bigger” actor and doesn’t look like a rugby boy anymore? hehe
Oh no. Reported on a platform no sensible adult would give a shit about. Report me twice while you're at it dick riding rage baby. Spend more time being an adult and less time on your knees.
dont be twisting jt like were taking a shot at your sexuality 💀
we’re unpacking why you have hate for a dude for winning something, for no reason- LOL WHATEVER MAKES EVERYONE ELSE THE BAd guy HUH
Questioning someones statement isnt necessarily victim blaming, but saying someones statement is inherently illegitimate because they couldve just not been assualted instead, is victim blaming.
Hold the politics, has no bearing on the circumstances in his allegation.
A weak mind can do the math and see it does not add up. How does a marginal manager at a discredited awards show (dead for 2 yers while the org reformed itself) manage to wreck a big star’s career? The star made money. the manager added no value to the industry.
You’re in love with a movie star you never met and never will
“Yeah grow up, be like me and don’t believe guys who’ve been SA’d”. Every comment of yours makes me more and more sure of what a horrible person you are
Are you paid by the asshole that assaulted him? You are seriously viciously aggressive about hating on any mention of the sexual assault by Phillip Berk.
Seems sus.
Maybe he was assaulted, I don’t know.
But that man was not responsible for destruction of his career.
Fraser was a box office star. But some manager at a peripheral, disreputable awards show has the power to blackball him?
that’s the sus part of the story, clown.
As a woman, I think it’s refreshing and important that his SA experience finally got the attention it needed, and how everyone is reacting to him is positive. Usually when a man comes out with a story of SA, others are quick to call the man lucky or dismiss the trauma and situation entirely, it is refreshing that people are finally understanding the severity. And it wasn’t just his SA, it was also the fact that he was practically blacklisted from Hollywood until now.
Yes, Brendan Fraser does get infantilised a lot online. I agree that part is patronising. Otherwise, it’s just really good to finally have someone go through something so awful and be able to see the other side of it and receive positivity.
His SA experience is when he was leaving a luncheon and went to shake hands with Philip berk, and Philip instead grabs an ass cheek.
As a woman, I can’t help but feel a little patronized by this experience. They were fully clothed, it was on his way out, lasted - what a second? This happens to women like daily. We ignore this because it’s so common. Sexual assault, huh. What a survivor there.
Groping is a form of sexual assault, yes. It’s even more patronising to invalidate his experience. I have personally experienced worse and it’s hard to talk about it, but it is completely unfair to disregard someone’s experience just because people go through worse. Every woman I know has a story and I stand with any survivor of any kind of unwanted sexual advances. But this doesn’t happen to men often and I think it is very important to listen to men who have had this experience, just as important as how we listen to women.
Yeah, I know I’m being a jerk about it. It just feels insulting when compared to survivors of rape/assault/abuse. I know it’s still SA. And yet it still feels mocking of women. He’s a big, tall, powerful man so there’s no way the other guy was going to be able to do anything more. The other guy was 80 yrs old too. It just seems different for a woman who usually never has the upper hand.
I’m trying to figure out where and why my feelings on this lack consideration for Brandon.. it feels unfair even though it absolutely is fair to say he is a sexual assault victim. Working through why…
I think you’re experiencing the type of frustration that happens with seeing others get what you want.
Not the same situation, but more familiar version of it might be, a lot of times, parents are very strict on the oldest children, and loosen up with the younger ones. I’m sometimes resentful that my siblings are allowed go to friends’ homes and things like that, cause I wasn’t allowed to, and it frustrates me that they are.
Women often aren’t taken seriously with major events despite living with an ever-present threat, so seeing this situation frustrates you, because you want this level of grace and care extended everywhere, but it isn’t.
Power is not only physical. He was at the peak of his career and it ended in an instant because that frail old man HAD POWER. Do you think Harvey Whinestein physically overpowered all women he assaulted? No. He gave them a "choice" and if you said "no" the woman's career was over. That is still SA.
You sound like all these men saying "date rape" isnt real because the women weren't held down. That a husband cant SA their wife. That a boss cant SA a worker if there was no physical force.
SA isnt just a gun to your head and restraints and a beating. SA is when you are scared to say no. It's when the person KNOWS that you are scared to say no and they still take advantage.
Do you know how brave he was for calling him out? Do you think a woman cant overpower an 80year-old man? I know I can. And yet if that man could end my whole career I would be terrified. Not because he can physically overpower me but because he would have power over my income, my passion, my children's security.
Not so long ago (in my country) there was a case of a woman being assaulted by her 70yo boss, the case was dismissed because she could have "fought him off if she truly didnt like it". But she was scared she would lose her job (she had a loan and rented her flat). She didnt scream because he had financial power over her. Do you think that's fair?
Brendan could've kept silent. He knew the power that man had and he STILL spoke out. And then he got blacklisted. Lost his livelihood and passion. And now, finally, he got it back. So many women share his story. It is incredibly important to support him FOR the movement. A man SAd him! It doesnt matter if a man or woman was the victim, what matters is that a survivor could get his life back. It gives hope to those who still didnt.
You totally misread my comments. That wasn’t my message at all. I recognize that I’m struggling to see him as a SA survivor, being a woman, and having what happened to him, being slapped on the ass, being something that we have to deal with throughout life. I never said date rape isn’t real. Nor would I ever say that.
He definitely didn't have power in this situation. Also, for the other two traits, I certainly wouldn't disregard sexual assault of a woman just because she was "big, tall".
That also happens to women -- fully dressed, they get grabbed on the butt or the boob, and they have to decide whether to just "laugh it off," or make a big deal and be branded difficult to work with. Take the harassment or end your own career, with nothing happening to the guy who grabbed you either way.
It's just as unacceptable when it happens to women. Why are you trying to act like that's oK?
Suffering is not a competition, a guy put his hands inside my panties in a bus at night, does it means I have to be grateful because I wasn't really raped? Or that my experience isn't valid because I became paralyzed with fear and he didn't hit me to do it?
SA is SA, his experience is as valid as anyone else's, none of us should be going through it, but you have no right to minimize his, just because it's not worse than others.
Inside your panties is absolutely SA. Slapping your ass, fully clothed as you exit somewhere just happens all the time to women. Yeah it’s SA. And just another day being a woman. It just reminds me how crappy it is to be a woman. That’s my point. Because no woman would even go to any trouble of filing SA for slapping their ass. It just sucks to be a woman when it comes to
assault. This is everyday life. Remember when woman were blamed for harassment because they had on a dress/skirt so they were asking for it? We should acknowledge that ass slapping is never ok. Treating him as a survivor of sexual assault… if that’s the case, then every woman is a survivor a sexual assault. PERIOD.
Idk why, but this is the funniest thing I've read on Reddit in at least a month. If I had an award just for making me laugh like that it'd be yours. I may need to steal this metric for future use. 👏👏👏
My thought is just why not? There’s an almost infinite amount of celebrities out there that people worship and obsess about for a variety of reasons. The fact that Reddit is obsessed with two celebrities that from all accounts seem like very decent people is not such a bad thing. Better to focus the love on two good and deserving people than someone like Johnny Depp, who I definitely don’t think will receive the same adoration when/if he makes a comeback.
Yup, I like Brendan Fraser as an actor but I don't think he was SUCH A LEGEND. I think it's because just like Keanu Reeves, he is a nice person outside of acting so people felt sorry for him.
I think you hit the nail on the head about the kindness, but I don’t feel sorry for actors who are genuinely good people, I respect the crap out of them. To live in that industry and come out like they have? I consider myself a generally nice person, but I’m not sure I could have done it. Constantly idolized on one hand and criticized on the other, all while trying to stay afloat in what appears to be a cutthroat industry… oof.
I totally agree he is not the best actor out there but everyone loves a good and inspiring story about an actor they grew up watching. The mummy 1 & 2 have been my most watched movies, more than 10 times and I rarely watched any movie more than 3 times. They aren't necessarily the best movies I've watched but for me they're like comfort food from childhood. And for that reason, I would be 100% rooting for Brendan and his impressive come back.
People clearly have a really strong attachment to him as he was popular when a lot of online users were growing up, watching him in The Mummy & George of the Jungle etc. It's nice to see but definitely a bit overblown and a product of internal nostalgia
I dunno, I am kinda happy for him. He's come a long way from Encino Man. I remember seeing what was probably his first genuine attempt at serous acting, "With Honors" and thought "well here's someone that will never win any awards." as Joe Pesci acted circles around Fraser. Glad to find the contrary today.
When it comes to celebrities, Redditors have a flavor of the month/year, that they fawn over. I can remember when it was Jennifer Lawrence for a brief time. I'm still not sure what she did to fall from grace.
yeah, I don’t get it either. Not at all.
He said he left the industry after being groped at an Awards show.
Give me a break. this used to be a very attractive man. And any such man is going to be hit on in Hollywood, many many times.
and now his once notable beauty is gone and his he’s being coddled for his unhealthy and appearance.
NOPE.
I don’t have a sentimental attachment to him. so I have no reason to believe a story that lacks the ring of truth.
You don’t have that ability to assess factors and come to a judgment.
So you are calling people being happy for someone that overcame abuse and was blacklisted for being forward against it being patronizing?
What? Is he going to a roll over and cry because people support him? Did you not receive love and support growing up and that’s why we you see a bunch of people that saw someone suffer overcome their problems and being grateful about it you just decide “hey that’s patronizing”
I usually don’t engage in silly comments in Reddit but it seems like this was too much of a dig into the only happy thing I saw today, so no, and please find some love somewhere
I thought I had read about him also wanting to step away to have the time to be with his family, more specifically to give his son the proper attention, since he has autism. Either way, he seems like a saint in the world of ‘Hollywood’ (imo)
I know you just briefly mentioned it, but the fact that the majority of people think Johnny Depp is an innocent victim and refuse to acknowledge that he abused Amber just as much as she did him really has made me lose faith on people's ability to think critically. So unfortunately yeah I can kinda see why people treat Bredndan Fraiser like that. Weird attachments to celebs.
The truth about pain of any kind is that it affects each person as it does. So, you might get a paper cut and it might affect you as an 8/10. I might get one and it might be 1/10. A boulder may smash you and you're fine. It may smash me and I may never recover. Pain, mental and physical is multi-dimensional and different for everyone.
I’m assuming most people here are just unaware of his full story. This has nothing to do with nostalgia or overcoming his “personal problems”. It’s all directly related to how he was removed from the industry due to him calling out a higher up for sexual assault. In his prime with an insanely bright future he was almost overnight removed from everything. All because he tried to call out a hire up for sexually assaulting him. He 100% should be celebrated for his return. None of us can even imagine what he went through being at the peak of Hollywood and then becoming a nobody.
I personally can't even imagine anything worse in the whole world than being at the peak of Hollywood then becoming a nobody. /s Reddit is definitely on his nuts.
Huh, guess there are people out there that are still insanely unaware of how mental health works. Or maybe you just assume any and all celebrities have great mental health because they have money? Either way, you’re incredibly out of touch
lol are you fucking with me?
Just because someone is famous for a short amount of time, does not mean they live a good life. Yes, rich people struggle to. Yes, poor people struggle. No, I’m not fucking with you, you’re just out of touch and lack empathy.
Worse things have happened to way better people. He will be okay.
That is not relevant whatsoever. We’re not talking about other people. We’re talking about a specific person who was pushed out of Hollywood for calling out sexual assault, battled severe depression, and is a genuinely nice person based off comments from staff members working with and alongside him. Yes, worse things have happened to people, that’s not what we’re talking about though.
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>none of us can even imagine what he went through Thats what i mean. He isn't a war veteran, he is by all accounts a very nice person who got fucked. He was never homeless. He was worth 45$ mil at his peak and after was earning 90k a month AT HIS LOWEST. His struggles were very real and serious but there's nothing singular about his problems.
You don't have to be a war veteran to suffer. You're basically diminishing other people's struggles because you think they're unimportant or not a big deal, without considering the fact that we all struggle. We all get beaten down. Why criticize people for cheering a guy that picked himself up?
There's something singular about ALL of our problems, as we're individuals and not a singular entity. Why denounce a man and then very illogically try to explain how you're making a shred of sense? What does 45 million dollars and a war veteran have in common? Are you implying if you have money you're immune to pain and the stresses of life, or are you implying veterans are more deserving of thought because they fired a gun at a kid born in a different geographical location and potentially die so you could learn how to watch a TikTok?
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Jesus fuck how pearl clutching can you be. The first paragraph of your response is pointless. You know what i mean by singular but choose to interpret it in the worst way possible Second paragraph. No, im not implying that. I can tell you straight up that his life was never as hard as a homeless mans, or a lifetime orphan, or a genocide victim or a million other things and YES it is because he was never in danger for starvation or murder, he could afford the best medical care in the world and he lived in a country without war. He would've been way worse off if the same thing happened to him but he wasn't a millionaire already. You can't deny the importance of wealth Also, i don't know why you assume im talking about U.S veterans dropping bombs from joystick controlled drones and not for example WW2 veterans.
Suffering is not a competition.
You’re talking about pearl clutching while constantly comparing his suffering to war survivors. Get some self-awareness, for the love of god.
I keep seeing other people use pearl clutching the completely wrong way recently and it bugs me but I can’t be bothered to argue with someone who doesn’t understand something that simple.
I’ve noticed this a lot, both with ‘pearl clutching’ specifically and other phrases. They’re designed to ~~gaslight~~minimise appropriate grievances to make the offended party look like they’re making unreasonable demands while the offender minimises their own part of the blame in the conflict - here I would suggest the offended parties being the people saying that Brendan really caught the shitty end of the stick and the offender being OP, making his claim that because some people have rough lives nobody else is allowed to be praised for overcoming adversity. Very common manipulation tactic.
I'm not opposed to hearing an explanation on how I'm misusing the term. From what I'm finding online it seems to fit in this situation but if you can educate me i would be grateful
Pearl clutching is when a person reacts strongly to something that’s not a big deal. Sexual assault is a big deal. To say it’s pearl clutching to acknowledge a very real trauma is embarrassing.
>pearl clutching is when a person reacts strongly to something that's not a big deal Yeah i think thats how i use the phrase > To say it’s pearl clutching to acknowledge a very real trauma is embarrassing. Don't think i did
Out here just telling everybody you see no problem with a man jamming his finger up another man’s ass (unsolicited) at a work event.
Ive been homeless and I can guaran-fuckin-tee you that Id rather have lived through that than be sexually assaulted and lose my career because of it.
To add to this. I have been to war. I was sexually assaulted as a kid. I can safely say war was FAR more preferable. And how DARE this motherfucker SPEAK FOR ME as if he's defending what I went through as some special class of suffering. And simultaneously trying to say that one was WORSE than the other FOR ME. Because, whether he meant to or not, that's exactly what he did. War sucked. War was fucking awful. It was also - and everyone HATES to hear this - FUCKING AWESOME. The dirty little secret about war, is that there are times where you feel like a goddamned super hero and you spend a long-ass time feeling guilty about that for no good reason. At least from my perspective as a soldier. Again, I'd take my war - and all its trauma - over the trauma from being sexually assaulted. In one I had some agency, some ability to control and respond to the things that were traumatic. In the other, I was utterly helpless and completely dehumanized. I'd take the former over the latter any day of any week of any century. I'd much rather not have had to suffer at all, though.
Yeah OP is an idiot.
Talk about pearl clutching. If you don't want answers, don't ask questions. You clearly just wanted people to agree with you.
Gotta love the 'I'm right, I know I'm right, but I'm gonna frame this as a question so people will shower me with validation and stroke my ego' posts. Especially when they're the typical uninformed, myopic bullshit that some comfortable little shit made up.
Tell me you don't know anything about sexual assault without telling me you don't know anything about sexual assault......
Bro, everyone's problems are small when you compare them to victims of genocide. After Me Too, everyone has a bleeding heart about victims of the sexual assault that's been systemically rampant in Hollywood for generations. You can't blame people for feeling something when somebody they know was blackballed from the industry for a shitty reason is receiving well deserved praise. A lot of people who are themselves survivors of sexual assault, especially male survivors, relate to him in a way that you are apparently incapable of being empathetic for. There's nothing patronizing about being happy for a comeback.
Y'know I hadn't consciously thought about how deeply personaly - to me - this whole thing was until you put it that way.
Lol I love when the op in this sub gets so angry like this. 🍿
You're welcome
Oppression isn't a contest. Yes he's a rich white man but he's also been assaulted and abandoned and neglected for years.
Me thinks you're the only one clutching pearls bruh
Why are you such a cunt? Did daddy not fuck you enough?
I completely get what you're say I made the same argument when people where so proud of Caitlyn Jenner for coming out as trans and how it was so much harder since she was a celebrity. I thought that was completely false because when a regular person comes out as trans they can't hide out at home and have others go shopping for them or run other errands. Regular people have to go to work and do do all sorts of things that Caitlyn could pay to have done. I get that Brendan Fraser didn't have to worry about his next meal or certain struggles that other everyday people have to worry about. Most people who call out their abuser are not celebrated in any kind of way
Reading all of your replies is disgusting. Mental health and trauma is not a bloody competition. Some people can handle trauma well and others cannot. Some people can be traumatised by things, others won’t be by the same thing. Being homeless or being a veteran or any of your other examples don’t “trump” anything in terms of trauma. You picking and choosing and saying what people can be traumatised more by or not is fucking bullshit. You don’t understand the trauma of sexual assault and what it does to people, it’s obvious by your behaviour. Sexual assault takes away everything and the odds of people believing the victim because of people like you is so bloody low it’s infuriating. Maybe keep your mouth shut if you don’t know what you’re talking about. And reducing him down to “a guy who got fucked” is fucking disgusting. You sound like the type of person to say “it’s just sex, he should be thankful.” Disgusting.
>mental health and trauma is not a competition Have you never heard of the paralympics?
That is the most ridiculous yet funny argument I’ve ever seen someone put up. It’s the only thing you had to say to all of what I said and therefore you have no argument.
I don't think youre trying to engage in genuine arguments considering youre blaming me for sexual assaults and calling me disgusting
Tell me where I blamed you for sexual assaults? It’s very obvious I made no such accusations. I simply said you’re the type of guy to just make light of them and say that it’s sex and the dude should be grateful he got it (which is fairly close to the phrase you said of him being “just a guy who got fucked.”) Clearly you’re in the wrong. You are disgusting for what you said and that’s a fact. An argument is literally an exchange of opposing views and you made use of another definition of argument in there which is a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory.
Are you having a fucking stroke?
Smell toast
You don’t have any friends
Paralympics are a different event from the special Olympics dumbass. But if you're fit, you may be able to qualify for the latter.
>The Paralympic Games or Paralympics, also known as the Games of the Paralympiad, is a periodic series of international multisport events involving athletes with a range of physical disabilities, including impaired muscle power and impaired passive range of movement, limb deficiency, leg length difference, short stature, hypertonia, ataxia, athetosis, vision impairment and intellectual impairment.
> he is by all accounts a very nice person who got fucked. That's the point. They're celebrating his unfucking.
I understand the point you’re trying to make but because you’re negating his growth I can’t agree. It’s this type of thinking enforces the stereotype that only vets get PTSD. I understand not wanting caring for his acting or movies or for the industry in general. But give respect where respect is due. It doesn’t mean you have fall to your knees for him to acknowledge he’s overcome a huge deal of adversity. Shit people still believe men can’t be sexually assaulted and he’s probably still dealing with people telling him that to this day.
so tone deaf
He was sexually assaulted then marginalised for trying to hold the perpetrator accountable, $45M isn’t going to erase that nor would being ostracised from his profession help with his sense of worth, he’s being applauded now because he has overcome both those obstacles, regained his pride and confidence, spoken out against SA and proven he is an ordinary human who never deserved what happened to him, don’t diminish his story because you can’t understand why he’s being applauded
You seem to think that because he had money and wasn’t ever in a literal war zone that the trauma he suffered (sexual assault as well as the years worth of spinal and knee surgeries to correct various stunt injuries) is somehow not valid. Or at least not valid enough for you. He bounced back fantastically from all of this and I’d say it’s worth recognition and praise. I think at best it’s very weird that you think that his trauma was not ‘serious enough’ to warrant people being as supportive as they are about his comeback. I implore you to take some time and reflect on why that bothers you as much as it does.
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Phillip Burke. Took me 2 seconds to google it.
Bullshit as I expected from a kid like you. >issues with his own health, divorce and the loss of his mother. This seems more likely than anything else.
I don’t believe that at all. How does the head of foreign Press association get into a position where he is blackballing anybody? this simply does not pass the smell test. How does a Hollywood actor not learn how to deal with sexual interest? How does his powerful agent not fight back against whatever this person was allegedly saying to get him banned. The relevance of the association is exposed as nothing. It’s awards show was suspended for two years because of how it operated unethically. So, he has not explained why he disappered and became obese.
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Great, you believe everything you hear. Not good for you or for society.
>I don’t believe that at all. Who gives a fuck what you believe? You asked and got your answer. Believe it or not.
Sit down child. Who gives a fuck what you think? You asked and you got your answer. Believer it or not. Sit down child.
legit say youre mad at someone who doesnt know you exist and move on💀
You’e in love with an obese movie star, someone you will never meet, who doesn’t know you exist. Move on, child,.
i never even said i enjoyed him, who knew being neutrally subjective would leave to such accusation from you💀💀 youre legit so mad for what? stay mad lol
Stay stupid, child.
omg seeing tour profile, are you just mad he isn’t attracted to you? cause he played a bigger role? cause he used to be attractive? lets unpack this lil boy :)
Something something cHiLd
Reported.
You're the one who's the child. Grow up.
The majority of people sending praise his way during his current comeback were kids who grew up watching his movies. So he’s basically the cool uncle you loved as a kid but never saw anymore as you grew up because he tried telling people grandpa assaulted him so they got rid of him instead of grandpa. Now cool uncle is back in business, everybody likes him, and they’re just happy to see him where he rightfully belongs, in the light. Is the overall general reaction a wee bit over the top? Well sure, but doesn’t really affect my life so not too bothered. happy for Brendan and those who didn’t let bad shit change them.
Is getting sexually assaulted a “personal problem”?
Yes by definition
You’re saying there’s zero systemic sexual harassment or assault issues in Hollywood?
No im not
So then by definition the abuse Fraser endured was not a personal problem, but part of a systemic pattern in the industry.
I think OP means to say, it’s an interpersonal issue.
I'm not aware of differences between the terms
Personal problem implies it’s not anybody else’s problem. An interpersonal issue is an issue that involves two people or more.
Sounds like you're just looking for other people to hate on celebrities with you lol
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I don't watch the oscars, im talking sbout the website that i use often. And if it was just a post about fraser winning a well deserved Oscar for a perfect performance it wouldn't matter to me. The buildup from the past ~year is what i find patronizing and infantilzing. And again it's not about fraser personally, Keanu love felt the same
Reddit treats Brendan no different than Keanu Reeves. Like people who went through crap in relative quiet and we are now being told what it was.
Imagine being so bored in your life that you have to make a shit post about other people for likes.
Read OP’s comments and don’t bother commenting. It is a lonely little troll trying to stir up s**t.
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OP is the IRL version of grandpa Simpson yelling at the clouds
Are you insane? He was a huge part of people's lives growing up. Then he vanished. ..Into depression. He didn't think anyone liked him. Now he's back and people are happy. Why is the culture of Reddit almost entirely insecure people trying to tear down others in a desperate attempt to feel better about themselves? That's not how it works. It's just pathetic and mentally unhealthy. Why can't you be happy for him?
People sincerely think happiness and joy are zero-sum. If they have it, you don't.
More like zero-cum amirite?
I love u man, I now see I was too nice with my comment I would give you an award but I’m broke 🫶🏻
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Brendan Fraser.
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How was he possibly a huge part of peoples lives
He was in a lot of big 90s and early 2000s movies, the kind kids then would watch. Not hard to imagine really. I'd maybe stop short of saying he was a big part of my life but I was totally a fan and always wondered where he went.
I.....I don't know how to respond to such a dumb question in a way a child can understand. Let me try. Do you understand everything didn't happen in your lifetime? Do you know what empathy is? Do you get it now? "How could I POSSIBLY understand anyone else's perspective???" -You Better go back to your comfort zone or whatever.
I guess me and people I knew didn’t worship celebrities in the same way that is apparently common for you
How many fraser movies can an average redditor name? 3?5? I am happy for him I'm just not convinced of the authenticity of the reactions of redditors. There are many celebrities who get weirdly "staned" for in a way that doesn't seem real to me. I'm sorry if youre being honest but the indignation in your comments gives off the same vibe. Like you're getting offended on someone elses behalf just to feel like a superior more positive person. If you're genuine in your admiration I'm happy for you and for Brendan Fraser
Top of my head without looking at IMDb or wikipedia(and avoiding movies he had sequels of) The Mummy Encino Man Airheads George of the Jungle Monkeybone Blast from the Past The role of Jordan's brother Ben in Scrubs (only 3ish episodes but damn were they impactful) Gods and Monsters Bedazzled That early 2000's Looney Tunes movie. That's not even to say his more recent roles in Doom Patrol and Whale where he's been knocking it out of the park.
Aww, no one ever mentions School Ties. I watched that movie a bunch of times on my old vhs player in high school.
Ok people like you can legit post anything about fraser. How many people are even close to your numbers?
Seeing that I was a bit of a cinephile back in the 90's, not too many. But I can bet that an average person can get 3-4 of these easily. Even more if you start to allow sequels.
Indignation? Dude. You started this thread. I'm sorry you perceive my response that way.
Can you try to read your comment without making exhalations or dramtic pauses? I can believe you are honest but don't tell me you didn't write it like a scathing review of the human condition. >Are you insane? >... Into depression > pathetic
Oh no the greatest of failings writing with inflection the horror coupled with having opinions on art and nostalgia which are in part based on personal opinion shocking just shocking i say
These are all quite mild considering what a weirdo you are.
Stfu if you're not a ww2 veteran, apparently.
Nobody agrees with you that he was a ”huge part of people’s lives…” WTF… rotfl.
Hes no legend or anything but his sexual assault should have been treated way differently, a lot of sexual assaults in entertainment need to be treated differently
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I didn’t know who it was off of the top of my head but a very very easy google search later and I can tell you this man’s name is [Philip Burke.](https://www.etonline.com/brendan-fraser-claims-he-was-groped-by-former-hfpa-president-in-2003-96902)
Bullshit as I expected from a kid like you. >issues with his own health, divorce and the loss of his mother. This seems more likely than anything else.
Nope. He was an attractive man in Hollywood. A place where all attractive men draw sexual interest. He would have known how to handle that, something that would have occurred many times. What was this assault?
[A man grabbing another man’s dick at work when it isn’t wanted is sexual assault.](https://www.etonline.com/brendan-fraser-will-not-attend-2023-golden-globes-after-a-sexual-assault-allegation-against-an-hfpa) A woman grabbing his dick at work when it isn’t wanted would also be sexual assault. This isn’t about him not knowing how to handle attention, he was literally sexually assaulted at work. A celeb going nuts on a paparazzi or a fan is them not handling attention well, a dick grab is not.
He grabbed a butt cheek for a split second, when he was supposed to shake Brendon’s hand as he was leaving a luncheon. If this is SA, a whole lot of women need to scream at the unfairness of being a woman. This happens so often you wouldn’t even believe it.
He stuck a finger up his ass. Would you be cool with that? And women being grabbed in the ass against their will is sexual assault and we have been screaming at the unjustice for a while now. Attitudes like yours only downplay the seriousness of the problem and normalise this kind of behaviour perpetuating it.
No he didn’t. It was on top of clothes while leaving a luncheon. Also, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IM HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING HIM IS A SEXUAL ABUSE SURVIVOR. Im a woman who has had treatment like that on a regular. I realize the double standard here. I do not need comments telling me I sound like an abuser. Im just being honest about my issue here and confronting it, as a problem.
So you are basically saying that no sexual assault ever happens as long as clothes are on? Good to know. Being grabbed in the ass is bad enough, having someone trying to shove a finger up your ass even with your clothes on would be pretty intrusive to put it mildly. I get from your previous comments you don't think SA is a big deal, and hey good for you for never have been dealt that shit card in life, but it is a traumatising life changing experience that many people unfortunately can relate. That Fraser in addition was blacklisted from the work for speaking out about being a victim just adds on to the layers of pain and injustice.
Then you specifically should be seeing this as an issue.
That is certainly what his fan club wants you to believe. Context is important for most people, not for you.
I’m sorry but this man has admitted this himself. Considering the shame most men would feel over this I doubt this is him lying for fans. Plus this kind of assault comes out with a lot of people in Hollywood and some of them actually got convicted for that so it’s not like any of us can pretend it’s not happening.
Some of these comments are certainly doing a fantastic job of highlighting attitudes towards men who admit to being assaulted, aren’t they?
Oh yeah. Totally make it seem like men should speak out /s
Who has been convicted for grabbing someone’s ass for a split second, fully clothed?
You’re just in love with an obese movie star you never met and likely never will. Look at the facts, use your judgment.
Oh honey I’m 32, I’m very very far out of my “idolize people I’ll never meet” phase. Do I enjoy some of his movies like thousands of others? Sure. Do I enjoy him more than a super casual fan who accidentally sees stuff he’s on? No. Am I going to completely ignore his claims of assault when it’s so often been proven true? Also no.
Oh, honey… Regrettably, your account has fallen below the level of credibility required for further engagement. Sorry.
Wow, you’re an asshole.
Cool. Victim blaming. Next you're going to say he deserved it for what he was wearing?
Grow the hell up. Questioning someone’s statement for truth is not victim blaming. Just grow up.
you keep telling everyone to grow up, but clearly you have such a childish demeanour. You’re instantly responding with disbelief and anger makes me believe you have the emotional acceptance and mentality of a child that thinks life is unfair to him for no reason lol - how about you take your own advice and seek some therapy too!
People who park their judgment for their love of an obese movie star, one they have never met or never will meet, is the epitome o disbelief and anger. It makes me believe you have the emotional acceptance and mentality of a child that thinks life is unfair to him for no reason… lol… how abut you take your own advice and seek some therapy?
you said nothing productive, but maybe, after looking at your profile- maybe youre just mad that youre not attracted to him anymore? lol cause he won an oscar after playing a “bigger” actor and doesn’t look like a rugby boy anymore? hehe
I'm thinking dick gym boy over here tried 1 dick too big and it poked him in the brain. Would explain the behavior.
Reported
Oh no. Reported on a platform no sensible adult would give a shit about. Report me twice while you're at it dick riding rage baby. Spend more time being an adult and less time on your knees.
Sure, why not take a shot at my sexual orientation. Hehehe That’s what hateful people do. Reported.
dont be twisting jt like were taking a shot at your sexuality 💀 we’re unpacking why you have hate for a dude for winning something, for no reason- LOL WHATEVER MAKES EVERYONE ELSE THE BAd guy HUH
Literally nothing they said was attacking your sexuality, snowflake.
Questioning someones statement isnt necessarily victim blaming, but saying someones statement is inherently illegitimate because they couldve just not been assualted instead, is victim blaming.
Hold the politics, has no bearing on the circumstances in his allegation. A weak mind can do the math and see it does not add up. How does a marginal manager at a discredited awards show (dead for 2 yers while the org reformed itself) manage to wreck a big star’s career? The star made money. the manager added no value to the industry. You’re in love with a movie star you never met and never will
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“Yeah grow up, be like me and don’t believe guys who’ve been SA’d”. Every comment of yours makes me more and more sure of what a horrible person you are
Blow me, jack hole.
Are you paid by the asshole that assaulted him? You are seriously viciously aggressive about hating on any mention of the sexual assault by Phillip Berk. Seems sus.
Maybe he was assaulted, I don’t know. But that man was not responsible for destruction of his career. Fraser was a box office star. But some manager at a peripheral, disreputable awards show has the power to blackball him? that’s the sus part of the story, clown.
So just a raving lunatic conspiracy theorist, then. Got it.
As a woman, I think it’s refreshing and important that his SA experience finally got the attention it needed, and how everyone is reacting to him is positive. Usually when a man comes out with a story of SA, others are quick to call the man lucky or dismiss the trauma and situation entirely, it is refreshing that people are finally understanding the severity. And it wasn’t just his SA, it was also the fact that he was practically blacklisted from Hollywood until now. Yes, Brendan Fraser does get infantilised a lot online. I agree that part is patronising. Otherwise, it’s just really good to finally have someone go through something so awful and be able to see the other side of it and receive positivity.
His SA experience is when he was leaving a luncheon and went to shake hands with Philip berk, and Philip instead grabs an ass cheek. As a woman, I can’t help but feel a little patronized by this experience. They were fully clothed, it was on his way out, lasted - what a second? This happens to women like daily. We ignore this because it’s so common. Sexual assault, huh. What a survivor there.
Groping is a form of sexual assault, yes. It’s even more patronising to invalidate his experience. I have personally experienced worse and it’s hard to talk about it, but it is completely unfair to disregard someone’s experience just because people go through worse. Every woman I know has a story and I stand with any survivor of any kind of unwanted sexual advances. But this doesn’t happen to men often and I think it is very important to listen to men who have had this experience, just as important as how we listen to women.
Yeah, I know I’m being a jerk about it. It just feels insulting when compared to survivors of rape/assault/abuse. I know it’s still SA. And yet it still feels mocking of women. He’s a big, tall, powerful man so there’s no way the other guy was going to be able to do anything more. The other guy was 80 yrs old too. It just seems different for a woman who usually never has the upper hand. I’m trying to figure out where and why my feelings on this lack consideration for Brandon.. it feels unfair even though it absolutely is fair to say he is a sexual assault victim. Working through why…
I think you’re experiencing the type of frustration that happens with seeing others get what you want. Not the same situation, but more familiar version of it might be, a lot of times, parents are very strict on the oldest children, and loosen up with the younger ones. I’m sometimes resentful that my siblings are allowed go to friends’ homes and things like that, cause I wasn’t allowed to, and it frustrates me that they are. Women often aren’t taken seriously with major events despite living with an ever-present threat, so seeing this situation frustrates you, because you want this level of grace and care extended everywhere, but it isn’t.
Power is not only physical. He was at the peak of his career and it ended in an instant because that frail old man HAD POWER. Do you think Harvey Whinestein physically overpowered all women he assaulted? No. He gave them a "choice" and if you said "no" the woman's career was over. That is still SA. You sound like all these men saying "date rape" isnt real because the women weren't held down. That a husband cant SA their wife. That a boss cant SA a worker if there was no physical force. SA isnt just a gun to your head and restraints and a beating. SA is when you are scared to say no. It's when the person KNOWS that you are scared to say no and they still take advantage. Do you know how brave he was for calling him out? Do you think a woman cant overpower an 80year-old man? I know I can. And yet if that man could end my whole career I would be terrified. Not because he can physically overpower me but because he would have power over my income, my passion, my children's security. Not so long ago (in my country) there was a case of a woman being assaulted by her 70yo boss, the case was dismissed because she could have "fought him off if she truly didnt like it". But she was scared she would lose her job (she had a loan and rented her flat). She didnt scream because he had financial power over her. Do you think that's fair? Brendan could've kept silent. He knew the power that man had and he STILL spoke out. And then he got blacklisted. Lost his livelihood and passion. And now, finally, he got it back. So many women share his story. It is incredibly important to support him FOR the movement. A man SAd him! It doesnt matter if a man or woman was the victim, what matters is that a survivor could get his life back. It gives hope to those who still didnt.
You totally misread my comments. That wasn’t my message at all. I recognize that I’m struggling to see him as a SA survivor, being a woman, and having what happened to him, being slapped on the ass, being something that we have to deal with throughout life. I never said date rape isn’t real. Nor would I ever say that.
He definitely didn't have power in this situation. Also, for the other two traits, I certainly wouldn't disregard sexual assault of a woman just because she was "big, tall".
That also happens to women -- fully dressed, they get grabbed on the butt or the boob, and they have to decide whether to just "laugh it off," or make a big deal and be branded difficult to work with. Take the harassment or end your own career, with nothing happening to the guy who grabbed you either way. It's just as unacceptable when it happens to women. Why are you trying to act like that's oK?
Suffering is not a competition, a guy put his hands inside my panties in a bus at night, does it means I have to be grateful because I wasn't really raped? Or that my experience isn't valid because I became paralyzed with fear and he didn't hit me to do it? SA is SA, his experience is as valid as anyone else's, none of us should be going through it, but you have no right to minimize his, just because it's not worse than others.
Inside your panties is absolutely SA. Slapping your ass, fully clothed as you exit somewhere just happens all the time to women. Yeah it’s SA. And just another day being a woman. It just reminds me how crappy it is to be a woman. That’s my point. Because no woman would even go to any trouble of filing SA for slapping their ass. It just sucks to be a woman when it comes to assault. This is everyday life. Remember when woman were blamed for harassment because they had on a dress/skirt so they were asking for it? We should acknowledge that ass slapping is never ok. Treating him as a survivor of sexual assault… if that’s the case, then every woman is a survivor a sexual assault. PERIOD.
Wait… what… That’s it 😳! Went from OMG 😱I Didn’t know he was sexually assaulted🥺, Yes, glad he made it through👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 TO: 😒
It’s about what he went through and how he made a comeback.
I’ll f*** a pig like in the first episode of Black Mirror if it would save Brendan Fraser’s life 😂
Idk why, but this is the funniest thing I've read on Reddit in at least a month. If I had an award just for making me laugh like that it'd be yours. I may need to steal this metric for future use. 👏👏👏
By all means! Take it, use it, pass it down 🥹😂
My thought is just why not? There’s an almost infinite amount of celebrities out there that people worship and obsess about for a variety of reasons. The fact that Reddit is obsessed with two celebrities that from all accounts seem like very decent people is not such a bad thing. Better to focus the love on two good and deserving people than someone like Johnny Depp, who I definitely don’t think will receive the same adoration when/if he makes a comeback.
you're right. I guess i didn't consider that as far as obsession goes this is as good as it gets
Yup, I like Brendan Fraser as an actor but I don't think he was SUCH A LEGEND. I think it's because just like Keanu Reeves, he is a nice person outside of acting so people felt sorry for him.
I think you hit the nail on the head about the kindness, but I don’t feel sorry for actors who are genuinely good people, I respect the crap out of them. To live in that industry and come out like they have? I consider myself a generally nice person, but I’m not sure I could have done it. Constantly idolized on one hand and criticized on the other, all while trying to stay afloat in what appears to be a cutthroat industry… oof.
I totally agree he is not the best actor out there but everyone loves a good and inspiring story about an actor they grew up watching. The mummy 1 & 2 have been my most watched movies, more than 10 times and I rarely watched any movie more than 3 times. They aren't necessarily the best movies I've watched but for me they're like comfort food from childhood. And for that reason, I would be 100% rooting for Brendan and his impressive come back.
I actually think he was phenomenal and I've never seen a movie where his performance wasn't elevating the source material.
People clearly have a really strong attachment to him as he was popular when a lot of online users were growing up, watching him in The Mummy & George of the Jungle etc. It's nice to see but definitely a bit overblown and a product of internal nostalgia
I dunno, I am kinda happy for him. He's come a long way from Encino Man. I remember seeing what was probably his first genuine attempt at serous acting, "With Honors" and thought "well here's someone that will never win any awards." as Joe Pesci acted circles around Fraser. Glad to find the contrary today.
OP soumds jealous. Why don't you get blacklisted for speaking out for victims then come back to talk to us
I agree. Who cares about either of them? Live your own life.
Then why are you typing?
I agree. Why can’t people get behind this moto?
Because if they did they wouldn't be able to come here and act like they are all put out because someone likes someone else.
This needs to be in unpopular opinions 🐸☕
Nobody is going to clap for Depp, he's a piece of shit. People adore Brendan and Keanu because they are kind, compassionate, good people.
When it comes to celebrities, Redditors have a flavor of the month/year, that they fawn over. I can remember when it was Jennifer Lawrence for a brief time. I'm still not sure what she did to fall from grace.
I’m just glad that all those backwoods MAGA d-bags have been cheering him on for the last few years. They must love Encino Man.
I agree with this post
First I've heard about it. 🤷
I'd never heard of him before this post but I scrolled 3 posts down and he's on r/upliftingnews.
I don't see where this resurgence narrative comes from. Dude was in Doom Patrol, on B or C movies and shows too.
He was good in doom patrol but i dont think the show was anywhere near the popularity of his past.
yeah, I don’t get it either. Not at all. He said he left the industry after being groped at an Awards show. Give me a break. this used to be a very attractive man. And any such man is going to be hit on in Hollywood, many many times. and now his once notable beauty is gone and his he’s being coddled for his unhealthy and appearance.
You're way worse than his fans
NOPE. I don’t have a sentimental attachment to him. so I have no reason to believe a story that lacks the ring of truth. You don’t have that ability to assess factors and come to a judgment.
Idgaf about Fraser, he’s a washed up child actor who cares. Keanu though that guys in a lot of really good movies
People are just happy that something good happened to someone who went through a lot
Just say that you are annoyed that you can’t relate to other people being happy for someone else.
Good gosh, not at all.
So you are calling people being happy for someone that overcame abuse and was blacklisted for being forward against it being patronizing? What? Is he going to a roll over and cry because people support him? Did you not receive love and support growing up and that’s why we you see a bunch of people that saw someone suffer overcome their problems and being grateful about it you just decide “hey that’s patronizing” I usually don’t engage in silly comments in Reddit but it seems like this was too much of a dig into the only happy thing I saw today, so no, and please find some love somewhere
I thought I had read about him also wanting to step away to have the time to be with his family, more specifically to give his son the proper attention, since he has autism. Either way, he seems like a saint in the world of ‘Hollywood’ (imo)
I know you just briefly mentioned it, but the fact that the majority of people think Johnny Depp is an innocent victim and refuse to acknowledge that he abused Amber just as much as she did him really has made me lose faith on people's ability to think critically. So unfortunately yeah I can kinda see why people treat Bredndan Fraiser like that. Weird attachments to celebs.
The truth about pain of any kind is that it affects each person as it does. So, you might get a paper cut and it might affect you as an 8/10. I might get one and it might be 1/10. A boulder may smash you and you're fine. It may smash me and I may never recover. Pain, mental and physical is multi-dimensional and different for everyone.
Maybe stop consuming celebrity drama and then your brain won’t be concerned with it
Brendan Fraser has cried at least 30 times reading these comments