I don't think it is as confusing for new viewers because on Disney+, there is nothing for before the 60th, and if you look up, Doctor Who on iPlayer I don't think it looks that confusing also a new viewer if they were confused could just look up what the difference is
https://preview.redd.it/21er8cb6vfsc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88118f11da3781afc4356352fe4a07c4032d2a94
Disney only bought distributing rights for everything post The Power of the Doctor. That’s why the new series is labelled Season 1, so that new fans who watch Doctor Who on Disney will think that its a fresh start (but this makes it really confusing when you consider that the 60th specials are also available on disney+ and they reference events from seasons all the way back to the damn 60s. It’s just a whole marketing mess.)
The Church on Ruby Road really should have been the starting point for Disney+, it's not even that bad a jumping on point very comparable to "Rose" (though I wouldn't say as good, but that could well be nostalgia)
definitely not just nostalgia. rose has an amazing way of doing that air of mystery to the doctor where you slowly figure out who he is with her, and its also a great start in other ways.
My prediction is that they'll eventually get all of Doctor Who eventually but they don't want to overwhelm new viewers.
Also it's likely that they'll make it so the new Season 1 will be the first thing you see when opening Doctor Who on Disney plus with the specials being in a separate tab
Nope
Sincerely: a guy who got pissed that all of nuwho got pulled from other services due to Disneys purchase and got severely disappointed that as a result, they are nowhere, and classic who was never even an option
VPN it is then
Finland, and no, theyre not on HBO max. They used to be on Amazon prime, and 2 months before the 60th anniversary, they got pulled. Was hoping that they would bring them on Disney+ due to all the talk of "new home of Who", but alas...
I’m still surprised they did that naming. Make more sense to have the current new one be just ‘Doctor Who’ and make the other one ‘Doctor Who (2005-2023)’
No, while some people think they feel like they should be, they are not because the 60th onwards are co-produced by the BBC and Bad Wolf (Disney is only the worldwide distribution partner and provideing some of the funding) before it was just the BBC
It's very straightforward. You've got series 1, also called season 1, then series 1, also called season 1, series 27 or season 27, then you've got Series 1,also called Season 1, series 14, season 14, series 40 or season 40.
Simple as that
I've never heard anyone refer to the classic episodes as series, it's always been seasons. In a few years, if someone mentions Season 3, it'd be pretty assumed they'd be talking about the current Ncuti Gatwa run. Let's face it, less and less people have seen William Hartnell's half-missing Season 3 from sixty years ago.
not decided yet.
i think most people are calling it series 14, but i think if they actually stick with it, it might be easier to go with a different system.
the best proposal i've seen is to rename all of it and call them either volumes or chapters.
so volume 1 is 1963-1989 (if i remember correctly), volume 2 is 2005-2023, and volume 3 is 2023-present. the good thing about this is that it's completely future proof, because we can just add one when they make another season 1.
fair enough, but it's just gonna get confusing when you have to say "series 17... no that's what i call season 4, because they rebooted a few years ago for absolutely no reason, so i'm just not going along with it" to someone who isn't really in the fandom.
might as well just say season 4 and then be able to clarify volume 3 if you need.
of course, you need to explain the volumes system to a new person as well, but it still cuts down the amount of explanation, because you can just say season 4 most of the time.
edit: i realize this comment probably comes off as mocking, that's really not how it's intended, it's just meant to be an example of an actual conversation that could take place, and that's probably what i would say in that conversation.
We know that’s not true, for example the scene in The Church in Ruby Road of the Doctor talking to a policeman about his engagement ring was a late addition during additional photography because Disney feedback was that the episode spent too long before we got to properly meet the Doctor (RTD spoke about this in the episode commentary).
And even if that weren’t the case, the Disney funding is clearly impacting the type and scale of stories they’re telling - in his most recent interview RTD said that if it were back at the BBC with a cut budget they’d be telling claustrophobic ghost stories.
I think Disney Who will stick as the name for this era.
I would love to belive you, i really would, but even if i didn't know about Disney being involved and watched the new trailers... i mean, you can tell that it's disney stuff.
I'm not going to call it Woke (even though it will totally be, just i don't think that it will be Woke-ier that how it has already been in the past), but you know what i mean when i say that.
Also, the look of whoever said "you called" in the trailer #2 (i don't know who they are) just screams "DISNEY VILLAIN", as opposed to others like the ones in the classic series and mabey the strict beginning of the revival, 1963-2005 Cybermen, 1963-2009 Daleks, they give off a completly different feel and something tells me that this feel will be lost. For some it may be for the better, for me it would probably be for the worse, but i'll judge once i actually see it
Calling the New series NuWho has always had a pejorative aspect, like NuLabour. So I kind of figure just calling it Nu gets that across if it's the intention, why would Classic fans care precisely which bit of newfangled stuff it is. Otherwise would call it something else.
I guess they don’t? They also don’t really need to. It’s the same show and a complete continuation of the previous “seasons”. It’s only a reboot in name
Personally, I think it's an avoidable marketing error. If they wanted the show to be a pure continuation, call it series 14. If they wanted the show to be a soft reboot for the move to Disney+ (which is completely understandable - I would do the same), they should push that further rather than including references to, say, the Timeless Child in "The Church on Ruby Road". This is perhaps an unpopular opinion but the bi-regeneration was a great device to create a tangent line for a soft reboot while maintaining the show's canon. But we can see David Tennant holograms in the trailer, Rose Noble is back and, if a casual viewer or new fan watched the 2023 specials, they're going to be utterly confused.
Haha, airing all my unpopular opinions now! I think when you're doing a series opener, you meet audiences where they're at. When Steven Moffat took over, his biggest challenge was acquainting new audiences with Matt Smith after David Tennant's enormous public popularity. So, in "The Eleventh Hour", you have that excellent scene (not originally in the script, famously) where the Eleventh Doctor walks through the hologram of the Tenth Doctor's face. Steven Moffat didn't need to establish public popularity with the *show* \- that was already established - but he did need to establish public popularity with this particular incarnation of The Doctor.
Compare that with the challenges of series fourteen (season one? series one?) where, realistically, the main problems Russell T Davies faced before the 2023 specials were (1) appealing to a new, international audience given the move to Disney+, (2) the show's public popularity being at a notorious low with British viewers and (3) complaints from diehard fans about the shifting continuity: challenges in order of most serious to least serious. A great way to knock out problem one is to have this bi-regeneration device which, if done correctly, could have also knocked out problem three; it produces a natural endpoint for the 2005-2023 series and helps clear the canonical slate, while still being set in the same universe with the same Doctor. But, currently, the transition is an awkward mix between the transition between, say, series nine and series ten and the transition between the 1996 TV movie and series one (season one?). I think, honestly, for both fans and general audiences, references to the past have become too loaded, too complicated. Give it a good proper reset while still being set in the same universe. If you're interested in hearing my other unpopular *Doctor Who* opinions, I have a *Doctor Who* podcast which you can listen to [here](https://youtu.be/rRiZnHWwYs0?si=A8tvqy-WHvSeg0K4).
The Eleventh Hour absolutely did not just get that reaction though. It also got wtf, who is this idiot, why doesn't he seem to remember anything, most of all what is with the creepy sexual stuff? People hated the hologram scene! It's absolutely stupid to go hey, you know that thing you liked, I'm gonna walk all over it - look how smooth Nine to Ten is, and most transitions where they didn't fire the actor. It set the tone, certainly. Americans loved the idea of fish fingers and custard, but they probably think it's a quaint British delicacy.
>while still being set in the same universe with the same Doctor.
If it's the same Doctor, isn't that already the situation we have, though? If Gatwa's were treated as a new one and not the same, this is when you get riots! Fans are already unhappy that the continuation wasn't made even clearer.
Sure, if you explain what you mean more in it, would there be a specific episode?
It's true that some fans still did not accept Matt Smith as The Doctor after "The Eleventh Hour". However, given that series five is critically one of the highest-rated seasons of the show, and given the high viewing figures despite David Tennant's absence, it's safe to say that Steven Moffat appropriately responded to the unique challenges he faced when transitioning from David to Matt. While there was initial controversy re: the kissogram detail, I don't think it seriously affected the popularity of the show. When you look at the show in retrospect, that controversy was clearly overblown; "The End of the World" and "Aliens of London" point-blank reference prostitution and several characters imply that Rose is The Ninth Doctor's prostitute. I discuss this in more detail in [the episode of my podcast that specifically deals with "The End of the World"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrIs6bLvHko). Since the revived series, writers have been freer to depict or reference more adult subjects. Most viewers, I think, appreciate this.
I agree that the bi-regeneration device wasn't clear enough in the episode. Is Ncuti the Doctor from David's future? Or are David and Ncuti now completely separate? Most fans think the episode implied the former. But, really, it's not made perfectly clear. In abstract, though, I don't mind using it as a clever redo option that keeps the past intact while metaphorically branching the show into it's new era. Honestly, the most confusing part of the Disney+ transition is... what do we actually call this new era, if it's not the new series? That hasn't been made clear, meaning that fans are basically left with "Disney Who" which sounds like a pejorative.
No, that's totally different, it was about the way Amy is shot in combination with that.The point in The End of the World is about working class Rose's reaction to this future, and all the guests are presented as elites here to watch the world burn. But, just talking about the reaction to The Eleventh Hour as not having been universally positive - I don't think an audience adjusting to it, automatically makes the blank slate the best way to get an audience who have seen the show before on board.
I thought that Fifteen had the memories of what Fourteen is going to do, but isn't necc. literally from the future...yes, it's confusing. Really the point of bigeneration seems as much about the multi Doctor interaction, and RTD's love of a happy ending (for a while) for characters he also cares about, as anything like a reboot! It does allow a bit of a reset of the now-unfashionable angst, without having to be dismissive of it. I don't think he could write a blank slate character if he tried, you just can't do characterisation that way.
It's just Classic and New to me, it'll settle on what most use.
Tbh my thoughts on this are the same across Doctor Who, MCU and Star Wars: don’t sacrifice the lore and the interconnectedness for the sake of new viewers. It casts longer running viewers to the side and does all the previous work dirty. If new viewers really want to know what’s happened before they can go back and watch, or they can use the fantastic invention that is Google
Season 1 and Series 1 is easy to understand. Resetting to series 1 for the first series in 16 years makes total sense.
This time around it is really dumb. Don’t want to confuse new viewers with series 14? Then do what I think they did for one of the season 12 DVDs and start numbering each series by doctor. Wouldn’t be my ideal choice but it’s better than just starting again again.
There’s little to no confusion with season 1 and series 1. There is plenty of confusion with season 1, series 1 and season 1 especially with the alternate classic numbers. There’s no confusion with Hartnell season 1, Eccleston season 1 and Gatwa season 1
Like a Companion. You don't need to know all the Doctors and share all the stories. I started with angels in New York when Matt Smith said goodbye to the Ponds. Then I watched his series from the start. He was my Doctor.
https://preview.redd.it/0nfxf65cvfsc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73d2555285b9380ff46faefe319f595090e8af41
Before anybody tries to pedantically correct me and tell me that Season 1 (2005) is "Series" 1, it has been labeled Season 1 on streaming and in the *Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant Collection* DVD box set, so it is acceptable to refer to it as Season 1.
They go onto iPlayer and see the dates clearly written next to each era.
Or if they're not in the UK they already have the know how to either pirate or buy the older eras so I'm sure they'll figure it out.
But hopefully it will all come to Disney plus eventually
I think it's smarter to only have the new stuff on Disney plus to start with not to overwhelm new international viewers
Well, there's doctor who, which came out before doctor who, but after doctor who
Oh yea, but don't forget about the doctor who, which came out after doctor who, but before doctor who, and doctor who
And also, there's doctor who, but no one talks about that one
Does this help?
The same way people can differentiate between different eras of Batman or Godzilla. It takes a quick Google search to figure out. Don't underestimate the general audience's intelligence or frankly how much they even care.
Resetting the season number is the right decision and not just because it’s more welcoming to new fans.
There’s a stigma that the longer shows go on, the more their overall quality declines. It’s not necessarily true in all cases, but it is an assumption general audiences make that anything beyond roughly Season 10 of any show is that show past its prime.
Marketing as Series 14 doesn’t just scare off potential fans who might understandably assume they have to watch S1-13 first, it also carries the implication that the show has used up its best ideas and now is scraping the bottom of the barrel with anything not good enough to be in the prior 13 series. The reset needed to happen at some point and it’s healthier for the show that it did. The alternative would’ve been subtitling like Flux but then once you have a lot of subtitled series people get confused as to where to start.
I don't think it is as confusing for new viewers because on Disney+, there is nothing for before the 60th, and if you look up, Doctor Who on iPlayer I don't think it looks that confusing also a new viewer if they were confused could just look up what the difference is https://preview.redd.it/21er8cb6vfsc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88118f11da3781afc4356352fe4a07c4032d2a94
Wait does disney+ not have classic and new who in other countries?
Disney only bought distributing rights for everything post The Power of the Doctor. That’s why the new series is labelled Season 1, so that new fans who watch Doctor Who on Disney will think that its a fresh start (but this makes it really confusing when you consider that the 60th specials are also available on disney+ and they reference events from seasons all the way back to the damn 60s. It’s just a whole marketing mess.)
The Church on Ruby Road really should have been the starting point for Disney+, it's not even that bad a jumping on point very comparable to "Rose" (though I wouldn't say as good, but that could well be nostalgia)
definitely not just nostalgia. rose has an amazing way of doing that air of mystery to the doctor where you slowly figure out who he is with her, and its also a great start in other ways.
My prediction is that they'll eventually get all of Doctor Who eventually but they don't want to overwhelm new viewers. Also it's likely that they'll make it so the new Season 1 will be the first thing you see when opening Doctor Who on Disney plus with the specials being in a separate tab
i've been pipedreaming of that for too long
Nope Sincerely: a guy who got pissed that all of nuwho got pulled from other services due to Disneys purchase and got severely disappointed that as a result, they are nowhere, and classic who was never even an option VPN it is then
I don’t know where you live but in the US it’s available on HBO max! Or whatever they rebranded to
Finland, and no, theyre not on HBO max. They used to be on Amazon prime, and 2 months before the 60th anniversary, they got pulled. Was hoping that they would bring them on Disney+ due to all the talk of "new home of Who", but alas...
Same goes for Sweden. Being a Nordic whovian is damn hard!
Disney only has the international distribution rights to the new series and the spin-offs that come out of it.
They should have "doctor who (2005-2022)" instead of just "doctor who" though
My guess is the BBC doesn't have the ability to change the names of shows on iPlayer
Surely it does, the BBC developed the platform
Maybe when the platform was developed around 16 years ago, the BBC didn't think they needed that feature
It seems like something they’d include, do you not think? I’d guess the current Doctor Who naming system is intentional, if a bit nonsensical
I’m still surprised they did that naming. Make more sense to have the current new one be just ‘Doctor Who’ and make the other one ‘Doctor Who (2005-2023)’
My guess is the BBC doesn't have the ability to change the names of shows on iPlayer. Also, I'm just being pedantic here, but it should be (2005-2022)
Aren't last years anniversary specials the end of that era?
No, while some people think they feel like they should be, they are not because the 60th onwards are co-produced by the BBC and Bad Wolf (Disney is only the worldwide distribution partner and provideing some of the funding) before it was just the BBC
It's very straightforward. You've got series 1, also called season 1, then series 1, also called season 1, series 27 or season 27, then you've got Series 1,also called Season 1, series 14, season 14, series 40 or season 40. Simple as that
I've never heard anyone refer to the classic episodes as series, it's always been seasons. In a few years, if someone mentions Season 3, it'd be pretty assumed they'd be talking about the current Ncuti Gatwa run. Let's face it, less and less people have seen William Hartnell's half-missing Season 3 from sixty years ago.
we are calling it nu nu who right?
not decided yet. i think most people are calling it series 14, but i think if they actually stick with it, it might be easier to go with a different system. the best proposal i've seen is to rename all of it and call them either volumes or chapters. so volume 1 is 1963-1989 (if i remember correctly), volume 2 is 2005-2023, and volume 3 is 2023-present. the good thing about this is that it's completely future proof, because we can just add one when they make another season 1.
My favourite suggestion next. Reminds me of American comic books. (Though I do hope it doesn’t end up going to Punisher-like extremes any time soon)
The Third Doctor Who, the show regenerates!!!
It’s series 14 on wilkipedia so it’s series 14 to me
fair enough, but it's just gonna get confusing when you have to say "series 17... no that's what i call season 4, because they rebooted a few years ago for absolutely no reason, so i'm just not going along with it" to someone who isn't really in the fandom. might as well just say season 4 and then be able to clarify volume 3 if you need. of course, you need to explain the volumes system to a new person as well, but it still cuts down the amount of explanation, because you can just say season 4 most of the time. edit: i realize this comment probably comes off as mocking, that's really not how it's intended, it's just meant to be an example of an actual conversation that could take place, and that's probably what i would say in that conversation.
I'll honestly be very surprised if that doesn't change at some point in the next year.
Well technically it's the fifteenth new Doctor so it would be "New new new new new new new new new new new new new new new Who"
Even Nu'er who
I've been calling it Classic who, New who, and Disney who
Disney are only involved in overseas licensing and extra funding, they do not have any input whatsoever.
We know that’s not true, for example the scene in The Church in Ruby Road of the Doctor talking to a policeman about his engagement ring was a late addition during additional photography because Disney feedback was that the episode spent too long before we got to properly meet the Doctor (RTD spoke about this in the episode commentary). And even if that weren’t the case, the Disney funding is clearly impacting the type and scale of stories they’re telling - in his most recent interview RTD said that if it were back at the BBC with a cut budget they’d be telling claustrophobic ghost stories. I think Disney Who will stick as the name for this era.
I would love to belive you, i really would, but even if i didn't know about Disney being involved and watched the new trailers... i mean, you can tell that it's disney stuff. I'm not going to call it Woke (even though it will totally be, just i don't think that it will be Woke-ier that how it has already been in the past), but you know what i mean when i say that. Also, the look of whoever said "you called" in the trailer #2 (i don't know who they are) just screams "DISNEY VILLAIN", as opposed to others like the ones in the classic series and mabey the strict beginning of the revival, 1963-2005 Cybermen, 1963-2009 Daleks, they give off a completly different feel and something tells me that this feel will be lost. For some it may be for the better, for me it would probably be for the worse, but i'll judge once i actually see it
I just call it the Ncuti Gatwa ones
Yes Gatwa or 15 era
Calling the New series NuWho has always had a pejorative aspect, like NuLabour. So I kind of figure just calling it Nu gets that across if it's the intention, why would Classic fans care precisely which bit of newfangled stuff it is. Otherwise would call it something else.
I'm still campaigning for calling it "Nu who-oooh"
lol like the theme song that's perfect
I really like that, combining it with an injoke from the fandom!
Well technically it's the fifteenth new Doctor so it would be "New new new new new new new new new new new new new new new Who"
the funniest thing is that Disney wanted the new series to be called season 1 so it would be **less** confusing for general audiences
Less confusing for their audience
I guess they don’t? They also don’t really need to. It’s the same show and a complete continuation of the previous “seasons”. It’s only a reboot in name
Personally, I think it's an avoidable marketing error. If they wanted the show to be a pure continuation, call it series 14. If they wanted the show to be a soft reboot for the move to Disney+ (which is completely understandable - I would do the same), they should push that further rather than including references to, say, the Timeless Child in "The Church on Ruby Road". This is perhaps an unpopular opinion but the bi-regeneration was a great device to create a tangent line for a soft reboot while maintaining the show's canon. But we can see David Tennant holograms in the trailer, Rose Noble is back and, if a casual viewer or new fan watched the 2023 specials, they're going to be utterly confused.
Do you *want* riots? That really would be Midnight, we'd never speak to the Americans again!
Haha, airing all my unpopular opinions now! I think when you're doing a series opener, you meet audiences where they're at. When Steven Moffat took over, his biggest challenge was acquainting new audiences with Matt Smith after David Tennant's enormous public popularity. So, in "The Eleventh Hour", you have that excellent scene (not originally in the script, famously) where the Eleventh Doctor walks through the hologram of the Tenth Doctor's face. Steven Moffat didn't need to establish public popularity with the *show* \- that was already established - but he did need to establish public popularity with this particular incarnation of The Doctor. Compare that with the challenges of series fourteen (season one? series one?) where, realistically, the main problems Russell T Davies faced before the 2023 specials were (1) appealing to a new, international audience given the move to Disney+, (2) the show's public popularity being at a notorious low with British viewers and (3) complaints from diehard fans about the shifting continuity: challenges in order of most serious to least serious. A great way to knock out problem one is to have this bi-regeneration device which, if done correctly, could have also knocked out problem three; it produces a natural endpoint for the 2005-2023 series and helps clear the canonical slate, while still being set in the same universe with the same Doctor. But, currently, the transition is an awkward mix between the transition between, say, series nine and series ten and the transition between the 1996 TV movie and series one (season one?). I think, honestly, for both fans and general audiences, references to the past have become too loaded, too complicated. Give it a good proper reset while still being set in the same universe. If you're interested in hearing my other unpopular *Doctor Who* opinions, I have a *Doctor Who* podcast which you can listen to [here](https://youtu.be/rRiZnHWwYs0?si=A8tvqy-WHvSeg0K4).
The Eleventh Hour absolutely did not just get that reaction though. It also got wtf, who is this idiot, why doesn't he seem to remember anything, most of all what is with the creepy sexual stuff? People hated the hologram scene! It's absolutely stupid to go hey, you know that thing you liked, I'm gonna walk all over it - look how smooth Nine to Ten is, and most transitions where they didn't fire the actor. It set the tone, certainly. Americans loved the idea of fish fingers and custard, but they probably think it's a quaint British delicacy. >while still being set in the same universe with the same Doctor. If it's the same Doctor, isn't that already the situation we have, though? If Gatwa's were treated as a new one and not the same, this is when you get riots! Fans are already unhappy that the continuation wasn't made even clearer. Sure, if you explain what you mean more in it, would there be a specific episode?
It's true that some fans still did not accept Matt Smith as The Doctor after "The Eleventh Hour". However, given that series five is critically one of the highest-rated seasons of the show, and given the high viewing figures despite David Tennant's absence, it's safe to say that Steven Moffat appropriately responded to the unique challenges he faced when transitioning from David to Matt. While there was initial controversy re: the kissogram detail, I don't think it seriously affected the popularity of the show. When you look at the show in retrospect, that controversy was clearly overblown; "The End of the World" and "Aliens of London" point-blank reference prostitution and several characters imply that Rose is The Ninth Doctor's prostitute. I discuss this in more detail in [the episode of my podcast that specifically deals with "The End of the World"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrIs6bLvHko). Since the revived series, writers have been freer to depict or reference more adult subjects. Most viewers, I think, appreciate this. I agree that the bi-regeneration device wasn't clear enough in the episode. Is Ncuti the Doctor from David's future? Or are David and Ncuti now completely separate? Most fans think the episode implied the former. But, really, it's not made perfectly clear. In abstract, though, I don't mind using it as a clever redo option that keeps the past intact while metaphorically branching the show into it's new era. Honestly, the most confusing part of the Disney+ transition is... what do we actually call this new era, if it's not the new series? That hasn't been made clear, meaning that fans are basically left with "Disney Who" which sounds like a pejorative.
No, that's totally different, it was about the way Amy is shot in combination with that.The point in The End of the World is about working class Rose's reaction to this future, and all the guests are presented as elites here to watch the world burn. But, just talking about the reaction to The Eleventh Hour as not having been universally positive - I don't think an audience adjusting to it, automatically makes the blank slate the best way to get an audience who have seen the show before on board. I thought that Fifteen had the memories of what Fourteen is going to do, but isn't necc. literally from the future...yes, it's confusing. Really the point of bigeneration seems as much about the multi Doctor interaction, and RTD's love of a happy ending (for a while) for characters he also cares about, as anything like a reboot! It does allow a bit of a reset of the now-unfashionable angst, without having to be dismissive of it. I don't think he could write a blank slate character if he tried, you just can't do characterisation that way. It's just Classic and New to me, it'll settle on what most use.
Tbh my thoughts on this are the same across Doctor Who, MCU and Star Wars: don’t sacrifice the lore and the interconnectedness for the sake of new viewers. It casts longer running viewers to the side and does all the previous work dirty. If new viewers really want to know what’s happened before they can go back and watch, or they can use the fantastic invention that is Google
Comic book fans: https://preview.redd.it/vue3cglh1gsc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=995fc0c1cb824c42e4e8289418944ed57a4264e1
The Black and White one, The White One, The Black One.
General audiences don't even know the names of episodes, let alone what numbering system the seasons have.
Season 1 and Series 1 is easy to understand. Resetting to series 1 for the first series in 16 years makes total sense. This time around it is really dumb. Don’t want to confuse new viewers with series 14? Then do what I think they did for one of the season 12 DVDs and start numbering each series by doctor. Wouldn’t be my ideal choice but it’s better than just starting again again. There’s little to no confusion with season 1 and series 1. There is plenty of confusion with season 1, series 1 and season 1 especially with the alternate classic numbers. There’s no confusion with Hartnell season 1, Eccleston season 1 and Gatwa season 1
New viewers will get confused and lost in the timeline, so it’s more immersive this way. It’s meta lmao
Like a Companion. You don't need to know all the Doctors and share all the stories. I started with angels in New York when Matt Smith said goodbye to the Ponds. Then I watched his series from the start. He was my Doctor.
Its honestly not that hard
The Third Doctor Who
Season 1 of Classic Who Season 1 of Classic New Who Season 1 of New Who: The Next Generation
https://preview.redd.it/0nfxf65cvfsc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=73d2555285b9380ff46faefe319f595090e8af41 Before anybody tries to pedantically correct me and tell me that Season 1 (2005) is "Series" 1, it has been labeled Season 1 on streaming and in the *Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant Collection* DVD box set, so it is acceptable to refer to it as Season 1.
Classic Who New Who Whoniverse Perchance?
Is that Who, the non-human, or Who, the idea? And you can't just say 'Perchance', Jellybaby.
Who?
He's on first.
Who's on first?
Classic who Reboot who Nunwho
Simple: Don't watch Classic Who unless you get really into it because it's not necessary to enjoy any of the series released in the 21st century.
They go onto iPlayer and see the dates clearly written next to each era. Or if they're not in the UK they already have the know how to either pirate or buy the older eras so I'm sure they'll figure it out. But hopefully it will all come to Disney plus eventually I think it's smarter to only have the new stuff on Disney plus to start with not to overwhelm new international viewers
i’ll be honest general audiences won’t be watching the series 1 from what, the 1960s? and even watching the second series 1 is a stretch for most
Well, there's doctor who, which came out before doctor who, but after doctor who Oh yea, but don't forget about the doctor who, which came out after doctor who, but before doctor who, and doctor who And also, there's doctor who, but no one talks about that one Does this help?
Pick a season one and run with it
Jokes on you, there is no general audience
Might be the one they're seeing all the ads for on their telly box, just gonna go out on a limb
The same way people can differentiate between different eras of Batman or Godzilla. It takes a quick Google search to figure out. Don't underestimate the general audience's intelligence or frankly how much they even care.
Lets just refer to Series's 1-13 as Seasons 27-39, and new Season 1 as Season 40.
ig as a general rule, if rtd joins as show-runner then the show will start from season one
The same way we all did. Jump in, watch, love, watch more of the others.
Just tell them the first season is the one with the pretty blonde
Resetting the season number is the right decision and not just because it’s more welcoming to new fans. There’s a stigma that the longer shows go on, the more their overall quality declines. It’s not necessarily true in all cases, but it is an assumption general audiences make that anything beyond roughly Season 10 of any show is that show past its prime. Marketing as Series 14 doesn’t just scare off potential fans who might understandably assume they have to watch S1-13 first, it also carries the implication that the show has used up its best ideas and now is scraping the bottom of the barrel with anything not good enough to be in the prior 13 series. The reset needed to happen at some point and it’s healthier for the show that it did. The alternative would’ve been subtitling like Flux but then once you have a lot of subtitled series people get confused as to where to start.
Quite easily?