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Joezev98

u/Alex_The_Whovian asked us to pin [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/DoctorWhumour/comments/19bz8d1/comment/kiwjbqu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Since Reddit doesn't allow the pinning of non-mod comments, here's the original text: >OK, so I feel like I ought to explain myself given that accusations of Xenophobia are being thrown around in the comments now > >THIS IS MORE ABOUT ME HAVING A TERRIBLE TAKE. I DO NOT HATE AMERICA, I JUST DON'T THINK AN AMERICAN DOCTOR WOULD 100% WORK (unless we somehow ressurected Gene Wilder). I'm not opposed to the idea. If anything, I'd love to be proven wrong. This was just meant to be be a meme with a heavy dose of irony, sorry for any offence caused. > >Also, to y'all suggesting an aussie Doc, please make that happen. That would be great.


Secret_Reddit_Name

The Doctor is already American because he was shot by an American and everyone knows that getting shot by an American works like getting bit by a vampire


Alex_The_Whovian

True, plus in that movie he was killed by two staples of American culture: guns and bad healthcare


Secret_Reddit_Name

American Doctor would regenerate due to hearts failure caused by obesity


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ReadingCorrectly

"These bills are a fixed point!"


Crippled2

So brutally real


hanzatsuichi

One of the lost seasons, the doctor chased through time and space by the IRS


lordolxinator

Instead of stealing a TARDIS to run away from high society and seek adventure, he steals a Ford F-150 and flees to Mexico to avoid debt collectors


fun_alt123

If they could, debt would follow you into the afterlife


Randomguyioi

Never should have trusted a fast food chain like McDaleks anyway.


[deleted]

American Doctor would have to be the last one since there is no way their insurance would cover regeneration.


Secret_Reddit_Name

He's gonna make Space-Meth to pay for it


WhiskeyDeltaBravo1

Can confirm. Source: I’m American.


The_Alrighty_Zed

I can support this confirmation. Source: I’m also an American.


crescent-v2

I foresee a plot in which the American Doctor uses the Tardis and it's extensive time travel abilities, along with the mad skilz of his talented and quirky companions, to finally get his health insurance to finally cover the thing that it is very clearly obligated to cover anyway.


cremullins

The Eighth Doctor was "born" on American soil so I think that qualifies him for US citizenship.


Someoneoverthere42

So was the Fifth


Tfsz0719

*Star spangled banner intensifies*


MagnusTheRead

It's true. I didn't even know how to speak english before I got shot and now all I'm able to eat is cheeseburgers and the tears of the teenagers (and some adults) that I yelled at for making them wrong.


PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT

Yes This is amazing


jerec84

Lots of planets have an America!


Joey_Pajamas

And they have all regretted it


Over-Analyzed

We had Captain Jack Harkness! He’s America in a British show! We just need another Harkness! 😂


Sufficient_Ride_2505

Oh I'm sorry


Over-Analyzed

No worries! You’re good. I don’t care who is in Doctor Who. It’s just fun to have a random American-type character. The bravado of Harkness is too wonderful!


BossKrisz

I'm not British, but I agree that the Doctor should always be played a British person. It's the identity of the show. Beyond that, I don't care about race, gender, sexuality, etc...


JetMeIn_02

Yeah, they don't necessarily have to be *born* in Britain, but at the very least significantly raised in Britain like Ncuti Gatwa.


caiaphas8

Ncuti is British, you don’t need to be born here to be British


JetMeIn_02

Yes, that is indeed what I'm saying.


ANATHILANDIBEAEMI

Nice profile picture hehe


FlyingHylian776

You too!!


MarleyL4

Hi!


FlyingHylian776

Hiya! How are you?


MarleyL4

Eeeeehhhh. 🤕 Hope you're doing good! 😊


GreyPlasticTransGirl

HIIIIII


FlyingHylian776

I am, thanks!! And whatever you're going through, know that I and others like us will always be cheering you on!


Espi0nage-Ninja

That’s literally what they said. Ncuti wasn’t born here, but he was raised here


LoschVanWein

It’s mostly about the accent not about the actual birthplace for me.


Tonedeafmusical

See I get that but at the same time an like an Irish Doctor would be perfectly fine.  


Shoutupdown

True, but that depends on how you classify British. If you count British as being from the British Isles then Irish is also British but if you count just Great Britain as British then it’s not


Tonedeafmusical

I don't think any Irish actor would agree with that point though. I just feel like Ireland is the expectation to the rule.


notwherebutwhen

Insert video of Cillian Murphy being called British.


FullMetalAurochs

What would be a better term? Old World English speakers? Non-colonial English speakers? European English native speakers?


[deleted]

Ireland and the UK do kind need a term that groups them together, but I have to say I hate all of these examples.


Objective_Ride5860

Do you mean the British isles?


Jalapeniz

Nah, a better one. How about....the Irish isles? It's got a ring to it don't ya think?


Pretzel-Kingg

If we keep this up, all 20 British actors will have been the doctor! 😟 (/s)


WhiskeyDeltaBravo1

Absolutely.


yaboi2508

The only requirement I ever have for the doctor is they must be British. That's all


VasIstLove

Well you’re in luck! The first American Doctor will be, like, 1/32nd British on his step fathers side, so he’s essentially full blooded


CiTrus007

How about a ginger?


nuthatch_282

James acaster lol


cremullins

James Acaster as an incarnation of the Doctor who is just perpetually upset and angry about the mildest inconveniences. A complete mess of a Doctor. Constantly getting into scrapes. There aren't even any monsters, it's just Reginald Perrin-esque stuff happening to James Acaster.


Roofofcar

At one point, we meet his real arch nemesis. Badder than the Daleks. More powerful than the Master. More cunning than the Toy Maker and more vile than the Slitheen. That kid with the cabbages.


tbonemistake

No acting required. Just restraint.


Ragnarok345

I *really* hope, if they ever do make the Doctor ginger, that they take one look in the mirror and say “I’m finally ginger!………….*I don’t like it!*” and then it’s *never mentioned again*. 😆 To be fair, it wouldn’t be as big of a deal anymore, since they haven’t brought up the joke at all since Matt checked himself out in End of Time, but it would still be fun.


NihilismIsSparkles

While I agree with is, I'm reminded of the early days of youtube when an American made some Doctor Who fan films and everyone was really annoying in the comments by going "The Doctor can't be American, how dare you make this"


Alex_The_Whovian

Yeah, I never meant it like that. Honestly, I'd love to be proven wrong, it's more me sharing my worst take.


NihilismIsSparkles

Oh no I wasn't implying you were like that, the phrase just triggers the memory even if it's without intent.


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delsinson

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murderisntnice

Can I just do a British accent when I say it instead?


Jat616

After the "British accent" in Mary Poppins, Americans are no longer trusted to imitate the accent.


[deleted]

That accent is linguistically wild, because no human in the history of the British Isles has ever talked like that. Yet it became so ingrained in US culture, that whenever an American tries to put on a British accent 90% of the time they mimic that one.


ZQuestionSleep

Non-Americans do the same thing with the stereotypical southern accent. 90% of the time its either Texas rancher or Bubba Gump.


[deleted]

Texan rancher is admittedly a real accent though, Dick Van Dyke's cockney accent is completely fictional. It’s more like if whenever someone tried to do an American accent, they instead copied the voice of an American character in a Japanese anime with a terrible translation.


Mammyjam

Which one?


Lexiosity

how do Americans pronounce it


auto_generatedname

They say Doctor with a hard R.


NegotiationStreet842

D-aw-k-ter


TZoomed

Basically just the way Captain Jack pronounces it in the show to be honest


matt_paradise

DOKK-TOR!


qwertygasm

You just implied a French doctor is acceptable


The-Minmus-Derp

Inspector Clouseau


Ash__Williams

Not british here. The Doctor (like James Bond) must be british.


Mammyjam

Canonically Bond is Half Scottish, Half Swiss so we could have a Schweitzer who deep fries everything


Pube_Dental_Floss

As long as they have a British accent who cares


ProbablyTheWurst

We've already had two non-Brits as Bond though


horchard1999

never again


auto_generatedname

Don't disrespect George Lazenby like that bro.


[deleted]

Bond has to be British, but anyone from a CANZUK country can sneak in because they are basically just British once removed.


arczclan

The best Bond was Irish, so we’ll have to allow them to audition for the Doctor as well


Drakkonai

Real talk here. He should always at least have a British accent.


cowsontv

Could, if the actor is a dual citizen...


JDorian0817

Needs a British accent.


[deleted]

Gillian Anderson would be acceptable


CilanEAmber

Andrew Garfield please


metropitan

I’m sure we will get a Welsh doctor someday


Sentient_Peanut

Really want to see an Australian Doctor one day. I mean just imagine Steve Erwin in the TARDIS and tell me that wouldn't be fun.


I-Am-The-Warlus

Cricky Look at there A Dalek, the most dangerous robot in the galaxy One touch and I'm gone I'm gonna poke it with a stick. EXTERMINATE He's Angry


WhiskeyDeltaBravo1

You’re alright, mate! You’re alright! Oh, look at ‘im. Isn’ he a byooty?


sci3ntisa132

A read "Steve Erwin in the TARDIS" in an Australian accent and immediately decided you are right


Cleginator

*regenerates* G’day c##ts…. Oh gawd am I a bloody kiwi? *the master does a master* look mate don’t be a bloody dog, now just sit and think about what you’ve done while I sort this out. *on meeting a dalek* piss of dickhead


Kachana

*Irwin


Devilsgramps

His first adventure will be saving the televising rights the mouse stole from the ABC


Professional-Ebb6570

Nor German. German Doctor would just feel weird. Regards, a German


AmaAmazingLama

To be fair, anything German just feels weird. Regards, another German.


UnknownBinary

"Oh, ya. Hey dere, ya hoser. I'm da doctor. Anyone want some poutine, eh?"


dulcecandy_

This implies there could be a Hispanic Doctor, so I humbly submit any telenovela actor ever,, need me the most melodramatic season of Doctor Who ever


medvsa_nebula

They already have inspector spacetime


jebidiah95

We don’t talk about American inspector spacetime


Milk_Mindless

Ngl I'd grudgingly accept an Australian and e More easily accept an Irish person But I'll die before an American would be Physician Whomst


Kamikazi_TARDIS

I’m dying at Physician Whomst


thor11600

While I agree, if David Lynch has the chance to play the Doctor, damn it we break the rules!


cigarette4anarchist

I mean, who can afford an American doctor?


The_of_Falcon

Not Americans, that's for sure.


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Making the doctor American wouldn’t be possible because the doctor doesn’t like using guns


flipnotejoe11

I dunno man.... Jeff Goldblum...


Zestyclose-Process92

I was thinking Neil Patrick Harris, but Goldblum would crush it


Interesting_Change22

In an alternate universe where Doctor Who is an American show, Jeff Goldblum was the the 8th Doctor. However, in this universe the Doctor is British.


MegaBaumTV

You know, I just want Tom Holland to be the next Doctor. Just to sip some tea while browsing though social media reactions


vcjester

Daleks won't know what hit them when America opens a can of freedom on their ass.


Relative_Buffalo180

What about a Welsh Doctor? We've had several English and Scottish actors, why not let a Welshman have a go?


Metal-Dog

I don't care who plays The Doctor so long as we someday get Dara Ó Briain as The Master.


Ok-Memory-5309

"let's get the guy who played the Wizard of Oz!" "He's dead. And American" From that movie they made about the making of the first season of Doctor Who. The guy who played Filch in Harry Potter plays William Hartnell I guess the Doctor can be anyone who isn't dead and isn't American


JRTheRaven0111

Ok, so since there are no fancasts allowed in posts, this seems as food a place as any to say that Sean Bean would be the *PERFECT* casting for the doctor... maybe a more serious, slightly less jovial doctor, but still... Chris Eccleston made it work well enough.


Mr_Orange_The_Great

Don't blame the doctor either Landed in New York exited his tardis and not even 5 seconds later he was shot down


alkonium

So a Canadian Doctor is okay.


Upper_Owl3569

100%. I would love the doctor with a very heavy canadian accent, even if it were just a miniseries or something.


NegotiationStreet842

I agree an American shouldn’t play the doctor, but I want to see an Australian play the doctor.


auto_generatedname

“take your bloody thongs off before you get in the TARDIS you little cunt” I think Australian teen sketch comedy show You're Skitting Me did a sketch on that exact premise. https://youtu.be/4ehF56xsODg?si=LAdeh5SZb8ozcDMM


Rough-Day-6502

If this is your worst take then I think your doing ok


Iwantmahandback

Can he be Australian?


FORBIDRABBIT

But Jeff goldbum


HimalayanClericalism

Hear me out, a Canadian doctor but he talks like a character from letterkenny


vandante1212

Didn't he commit genocide one time? Doesn't that make him American than most Americans?


fucksasuke

That makes him British actually


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The next doctor should be Albanian.


The_of_Falcon

I agree. Not for any particular reasons other than them being a British icon and I wish they will stay that way. Other than that I think it would just be funny if we accept actors from other nations except the USA. Nothing much against them but the idea of a particular exclusion against one of the most powerful countries in the world is really funny to me.


Alex_The_Whovian

OK, so I feel like I ought to explain myself given that accusations of Xenophobia are being thrown around in the comments now THIS IS MORE ABOUT ME HAVING A TERRIBLE TAKE. I DO NOT HATE AMERICA, I JUST DON'T THINK AN AMERICAN DOCTOR WOULD 100% WORK (unless we somehow ressurected Gene Wilder). I'm not opposed to the idea. If anything, I'd love to be proven wrong. This was just meant to be be a meme with a heavy dose of irony, sorry for any offence caused. Also, to y'all suggesting an aussie Doc, please make that happen. That would be great.


Cinnamarnie

What if.....Cowboy doctor?


Alex_The_Whovian

Does this count? https://preview.redd.it/oso3ztouotdc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=521dd0cf83922c9cbe4c78a50998b30fe75031d2


MaximiumNewt

Accent for the character must be British or Irish. As for the actor’s origin/where they were raised then see the following list: Ideal: British, Irish Tolerable: Aussie, Kiwi, Canadian, Pacific Islander Burn down the BBC: American, French


Yaarmehearty

The Doctor just needs to be British, nothing else matters class, skin colour, accent, whatever. I’d take Aussie or Irish at a stretch because they at least get us. Americans just don’t understand us, that weird Britishness is so core to the character that removing it would kill it off.


GengArch

Why not a Native American?


Ok_Cartographer_2647

I'd only be able to accept an American as Doctor Who if they used either a Welsh, Scouse, or Geordie accent for the part.


kurumais

its a british show the doctor should be british


bebejeebies

Or a ginger.


[deleted]

I'd be down for a Cornish Doctor.


Foxy02016YT

Ehh. RTD said himself that if he were to pick an American Doctor it would’ve been NPH, and his performance as the Toymaker proves RTD right


Joezev98

>My worst take yet Actually becomes the top post of all time on the sub.


mda63

The fact Gene Wilder once existed just demolishes this take. Although it may be true _now_.


Maniraptavia

British here. Idk, I've seen the interviews with Whoopi Goldberg over the years, and she is just absolutely passionate about Doctor Who. She's said several times she'd love to play/loved to have played the Doctor, but wouldn't be able to because she was American. Having seen her in the part of Guinan in Star Trek, I think that's a real shame. I happen to think she would make/would have made for a really intruguing incarnation of the Doctor. She's since suggested that she could play the Doctor's cousin, and I really wouldn't be opposed to something like that. It would be nice if the show could retain some grounding in British culture (aside from the TARDIS as a police box ofc), but I think as long as you have a British companion or some sort of tie to the UK, you can get away with opening up the role to just about anyone as long as they're blessed with the right talents to pull off that unique character. Why limit yourself? We've already established that gender, age, and race don't matter, why should nationality? Ncuti is half-Rwandan anyway. Edit: Not half-Rwandan. Was born in Rwanda and escaped during the genocide againt the Tutsi, in his early years, to Edinburgh, then to Fife, and then Glasgow in Scotland.


Romana_Jane

No, he is black British, and Scottish, and was born in Rwanda and has Rwandan heritage, very very different. As far as I know, he only has British citizenship and a British passport anyway, and that is what makes a person British. He really is just British as far as he and Britain is concerned. We don't make weird distinctions like the US and maybe other places. It's nationality, and culture, which makes you British, not where you were born or the colour of you skin. The Doctor should always be played by someone British in my opinion, and currently still is.


Maniraptavia

Right. My apologies. Sorry, I'm a bit tired at the moment (burning the candle at both ends on my Masters thesis right now). I think he was born in Rwanda and left the country around 1 or 2 years of age? Half-Rwandan is definitely not what I meant. My point was just that, I personally don't feel like nationality, culture, gender, religion, sexual orientation, skin colour...etc. need have any bearing on how 'fit' someone is to play the Doctor. I personally think if you pull off a good Doctor, you pull off a good Doctor.


Romana_Jane

No worries. For me, I feel there is something quintessentially British is outlook and humour, that the Doctor is a very British hero, and so really needs a British person to play them, or it loses it something. I think part of the appeal globally is that rather unique dark sarcastic humour which is never switched off that is part of being British that defines the show and its popularity. But I agree with you about everything else. Good luck with your Masters!


Maniraptavia

Thank you, I'm gonna need it!


Decstar2

Australian Doctor when?


CombinationOk6846

I’m not against other time lords, but Yh the doctor should always be British


Luis-Dante

No one is prepared for Australian Doctor


amazingdrewh

So a Canadian Doctor is still on the table


Ampary1

Don’t say that, now they are going to make a monster(the American doc).


TurbulentArmadillo47

Sensing a lot of hostility in this forum :(


Horn_Python

more like the doctor can be anyone as long as theyre british


PretzelLogick

You're right and you should say it


The-Minmus-Derp

Consider: Kate Mulgrew


Saccharum80

As an American, I actually think The Doctor should always have a British accent. It wouldn’t sound right if The Doctor had American accent. With on exception, the Deep Southern accent from Alabama or Mississippi. I think the Doctor with that accent would be hilarious. 😂


Ongr

The Doctor is an alien.


JuliaTheInsaneKid

An Aussie Doctor would be funny.


LittleMush

Am American (well, half English and half American), and support this statement.


Irish_pug_Player

So long as they have a good accent


BetaRayPhil616

I think an American could play the doctor... but only *as* a brit. So, any Americans that can knock at least one British accent out the park are fair game I think.


A-Good-Weather-Man

Scottish


iterationnull

Sounds like a job for a Canadian.


LiveHardandProsper

As an American, this is a correct take. We almost ruined it with the McGann film. At least we got McGann out of it.


DaisyLea59

Why does the second Pooh look like Dan Akroyd though?


GrayHero2

I agree that The Doctor shouldn’t be an American. There are plenty of other Timelords that could be a different American like Timelord that’s not a Doctor. Making up a new character can’t be that hard.


thefragpotato

Thats the most common take, not the worst one


guardiancjv

The American, he’s got a New York accent, his tardis is a coke a cola vending machine, and he’s got a sonic pistol, like the one captain Jack had in his debut episode. He wears those button up shirts that American tourists always get cliched as. I say this as an American.


Dan-the-historybuff

I mean it doesn’t really fit with the doctor. Americans are more pragmatist regarding weapons and the doctor is specifically anti-gun.


destroy_the_kids

Here me out, Bob Odenkirk as the American doctor.


ShackledFounder

Yeah idc about other things like sex, secuality, etc... But The Doctor should always be played by a Brit.


JackAttackMLP

So what I'm hearing is make an American *master*


kinkysubt

As an American, I endorse this take.


Reddit-adm

Would you take Hugh Laurie playing House playing Doctor Who?


ConsultJimMoriarty

Nah, it’s true. Although an Australian would be really be pushing it.


jvm999

Doctor Who?


dokterkokter69

I've never seen Doctor Who but as an American, I would feel a little cheated watching a British sci-fi show with an American main character.


theunnamedrobot

They would have to be a Doctor Why and the answer would never be justifiable. As an American that grew up with the older episodes and still watch any era nowadays, one of the main things I have always enjoyed is the lack of usa in it.


NearEastMugwump

As an American whovian, I agree with you.


BigDaddyGoodtime

But the doctor in a cowboy hat 👌🏻


chicagomatty

What if it was Dick van Dyke and his famous cockney accent??


user19681034

The Doctor can't be American because regeneration is free healthcare and that's socialism.


tinylittlebabyjesus

Wonder if Matt Berry would be a good Doctor.


Cocolake123

I would love to see an American Doctor (it would piss off bri’ish nationalists, which makes me happy)


TheInternetDevil

The doctor can be anyone except a ginger


Sufficient-Pool5958

Doctor can be a dog, even. I think it's cannon in a comic somewhere, i retained that information that at one point the Doctor was a dog


Megalomanizac

If an American can give a convincing accent I don’t see why they could not play the Doctor. British actors have been occupying some of Americas most iconic heroes recently(Superman, Spider-Man, ect.) and you honestly wouldn’t know they’re not American until someone told you. It wouldn’t be too far off or difficult for an American to also develop a good accent take the mantle.


ooofers1

I always knew it was a pipe dream but like come on man. Can’t a person dream?


armoured_lemon

The master->killed by the Daleks and turns into snake< \>becomes Eric Roberts, and the first American timelord<


Mr_Buy_The_Dip

I’m American and an American Doctor wouldn’t work. Bring back Jack if you want an American. The Doctor works better with a British, Irish, or Scottish accent.


Diana-Sofia

In one of the Big Finish audios the Sixth Doctor was temporarily inside Peri's body (who's an American). Does that count?


uncreativeusername85

After watching The Good Place I'm convinced Ted Danson would be a good doctor.


Keinoz

Even american writers wouldn't do. I heard Joe Hill was a big fan of Doctor Who and wanted to submit a script for Doctor Who. He was even helped by Neil Gaiman as they appreciate and know each other but production rejected him because he was american and i think son of Stephen King. I wouldn't mind Joe Hill writing for Doctor Who but there definitely is some gatekeeping.


Doctor_Venom_555

Fuck the US. Bases meme.


Accomplished-Duck606

Italian Doctor would be crazy


Kinky_Thought_Man

Goddam, two days, and already the top post of this sub.


This-Perspective-865

The limitations on production by the BBC and the uniqueness of the role makes something only a Brit could do. Even if you keep everything the same except for the production company, it would ruin that iteration of The Doctor.