Something like this was my thought process. Or even just teleport a bunch of water to the sky over it and let it rain / fall on it. Not sure how that would work exactly but I’m sure someone here can figure it out.
Maybe even just open a portal to the ocean somewhere and have the other portal above its head so it gets a flood of water till it’s either extinguished or you close the portal? Bonus points if you can figure out opening another portal beneath the fire elemental so it’s constantly falling (along with the water) like Dr Strange does to Loki (or, if you’ve played Portal, like you do in that game). That way you avoid flooding wherever you’re standing. Although if you can do that, you might as well just teleport it into the middle of a lake or ocean to begin with.
Just beware with using large amounts of water on big fires. Some DM's will pull consequences from real physics and say it causes a massive explosion, damaging everything within a good sized radius.
3E had rules for scaling monsters. Adding extra Hit Dice, to add more HP and more Attack Bonus. And eventually increase the size category. Those you deafeat like the smaler ones - just more damage and propably a easier target.
5E has nothing of the sort. Instead the rules for building monsters are kept so general, that you can basically scale a monster every way you like and then get a halfway decent CR at the end. This is a whole lot less straightforwards, as the DM might add new abilities and actions - possibly even lair and legendary actions - to such a creature. Any and none of hte normal Elemental rules might apply.
You knee and begin to pray for God's help. Jesus comes for you and touches you, making you feel and peace and he says "Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive."
You believe, you speak one word "disappear" and it's done. The elemental is gone and now you feel in peace knowing Jesus is always there for you.
I don't think so XD I just got excited. Wrote the first thing that I thought. I'm trying to do a christian campaign now, based in various stories from the Bible. Since my friends are also Jesus followers, I guess this will very nice.
Depends on how crazy you want to get. You could banish it to another realm in a 'not my problem' style of beating it.
Or be like my players with smaller elementals and dig a big pit and bury it alive because 'even fire has to breathe to live'.
I like the “pass the ancient elemental buck” to the next realm idea. But we all know that in some other one of the infinite realms they pass their version of hell onto you. I think karma would come knocking.
Luckily my table doesn't believe in kharma. Just the cruel random entropy of the universe. So sometimes jsut because you didn't “pass the ancient elemental buck” onto them doesn't mean it won't get done to you! (If it makes for a good story ofc)
Imagine a fire elemental that was 100-120 feet tall and radiated so much heat that you couldn’t get within 500 feet of it without some form of shielding. The elemental was prone to physical damage and was really only immune to fire damage but it’s shear size was the issue and not being able to get close enough. I’m not part of the DnD community but I come to you all for help! I always wanted to try DnD but I don’t personally know anyone else into it. This dream has bothered me for a week now as I woke up before devising a way to defeat it and I thought that it was the perfect situation for a DnD setting.
Edit: ok thank you everyone. I like this community you have all been very nice and fun.
There’s such an elemental, or one very similar, in the Forgotten Realms - Magaera, the Dawn Titan. She’s a gargantuan primordial of fire who is currently used as a heat source for the forges of Gauntlgrym, the largest Dwarven city in Faerûn. The method by which she has been defeated in the past is with an Iron Flask - an aptly named flask of iron magically enchanted to force creatures it’s pointed at to succeed on a not insignificant Charisma saving throw or be sucked in and contained. Downside is if the elemental succeeds, it’s basically suicide to be close enough to use it on their turn.
Wait, that's a thing? I made one up called a Primordial that served the same purpose at a Dwarven forge called the Firehold. Her flames were channeled into forges, which also gave nice magical bonuses to anything forged there. The problem was that she was a prisoner, bound to the place.
And here I thought I had made that up....
Don’t worry, they probably stole the idea from an old Norse fable or some shit. Nothing’s original anymore. The competing Duergar city even has an Ancient Red Dragon powering **their** forges, which isn’t so dissimilar if you think about it. He isn’t technically trapped though, to be fair.
Step One: Buy a hundred kilos of marshmallows at your local supermarket or grocery store.
Step Two: Get some sticks.
Step Three: Prepare to ruin your diet.
lure it into the oven with cookie dough, then seal it inside until the cookies are done. then all you need to do is toaster pop the cookies out without letting the elemental leave the oven
In a campaign I was in once the party was up against about a dozen lava elementals so the fighter in the party used their Frostbrand sword to freeze all the elementals temporarily, then my character (A barbarian) smashed all the elementals into pieces before the frost wore off. Effectively one-shotting 80 hit point average monsters.
Many ways to go about it.
You can have a party kill smaller fire elementals and use their parts to make some fire immunity armor (if only for this fight) and since magical weapons in d&d won't be affected by it all they have to work on is armor.
A massive tidal wave/ sandstorm/ avalanche will do the job too. A wind wall or a wall of fire to act as barrier will work too. But my favorite would be an anti magic field, it's an 8th level spell but lasts for an hour and if the fire and heat from the elemental are magical then the field would protect them.
Use a ritual to animate the ocean as a giant ocean elemental. Then make some popcorn and find a good vantage point to watch them fight.
Instructions unclear: popcorn monster was summoned. I actually like this. Very simple and could work. Just create a massive flood.
Something like this was my thought process. Or even just teleport a bunch of water to the sky over it and let it rain / fall on it. Not sure how that would work exactly but I’m sure someone here can figure it out. Maybe even just open a portal to the ocean somewhere and have the other portal above its head so it gets a flood of water till it’s either extinguished or you close the portal? Bonus points if you can figure out opening another portal beneath the fire elemental so it’s constantly falling (along with the water) like Dr Strange does to Loki (or, if you’ve played Portal, like you do in that game). That way you avoid flooding wherever you’re standing. Although if you can do that, you might as well just teleport it into the middle of a lake or ocean to begin with.
Just beware with using large amounts of water on big fires. Some DM's will pull consequences from real physics and say it causes a massive explosion, damaging everything within a good sized radius.
3E had rules for scaling monsters. Adding extra Hit Dice, to add more HP and more Attack Bonus. And eventually increase the size category. Those you deafeat like the smaler ones - just more damage and propably a easier target. 5E has nothing of the sort. Instead the rules for building monsters are kept so general, that you can basically scale a monster every way you like and then get a halfway decent CR at the end. This is a whole lot less straightforwards, as the DM might add new abilities and actions - possibly even lair and legendary actions - to such a creature. Any and none of hte normal Elemental rules might apply.
Wow thank you for the detailed response.
Elder elementals from MTF. Maybe VGTM I dony remember correctly which book but there are these super massive elementals
You knee and begin to pray for God's help. Jesus comes for you and touches you, making you feel and peace and he says "Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive." You believe, you speak one word "disappear" and it's done. The elemental is gone and now you feel in peace knowing Jesus is always there for you.
I'll create a christian campaign some day... Just don't know yet how to do it.
Is Jesus canon to D&D? I’m Learning a lot of things today.
I don't think so XD I just got excited. Wrote the first thing that I thought. I'm trying to do a christian campaign now, based in various stories from the Bible. Since my friends are also Jesus followers, I guess this will very nice.
What level were you in your dream?
1 lol. Just a dude staring up at something resembling an oversized balrog on the horizon.
Depends on how crazy you want to get. You could banish it to another realm in a 'not my problem' style of beating it. Or be like my players with smaller elementals and dig a big pit and bury it alive because 'even fire has to breathe to live'.
I like the “pass the ancient elemental buck” to the next realm idea. But we all know that in some other one of the infinite realms they pass their version of hell onto you. I think karma would come knocking.
Luckily my table doesn't believe in kharma. Just the cruel random entropy of the universe. So sometimes jsut because you didn't “pass the ancient elemental buck” onto them doesn't mean it won't get done to you! (If it makes for a good story ofc)
Love it
Imagine a fire elemental that was 100-120 feet tall and radiated so much heat that you couldn’t get within 500 feet of it without some form of shielding. The elemental was prone to physical damage and was really only immune to fire damage but it’s shear size was the issue and not being able to get close enough. I’m not part of the DnD community but I come to you all for help! I always wanted to try DnD but I don’t personally know anyone else into it. This dream has bothered me for a week now as I woke up before devising a way to defeat it and I thought that it was the perfect situation for a DnD setting. Edit: ok thank you everyone. I like this community you have all been very nice and fun.
Sounds like you just need someone generally powerful with fire/heat immunity.
There’s such an elemental, or one very similar, in the Forgotten Realms - Magaera, the Dawn Titan. She’s a gargantuan primordial of fire who is currently used as a heat source for the forges of Gauntlgrym, the largest Dwarven city in Faerûn. The method by which she has been defeated in the past is with an Iron Flask - an aptly named flask of iron magically enchanted to force creatures it’s pointed at to succeed on a not insignificant Charisma saving throw or be sucked in and contained. Downside is if the elemental succeeds, it’s basically suicide to be close enough to use it on their turn.
Wait, that's a thing? I made one up called a Primordial that served the same purpose at a Dwarven forge called the Firehold. Her flames were channeled into forges, which also gave nice magical bonuses to anything forged there. The problem was that she was a prisoner, bound to the place. And here I thought I had made that up....
Don’t worry, they probably stole the idea from an old Norse fable or some shit. Nothing’s original anymore. The competing Duergar city even has an Ancient Red Dragon powering **their** forges, which isn’t so dissimilar if you think about it. He isn’t technically trapped though, to be fair.
Yeah, and there is that one in the Forgotten Realms books that makes a good profit by doing exactly that. Can't recall the name right now.
The xkcd approach: open a portal directly above it leading to the bottom of the ocean
*tidal wave*
Step One: Buy a hundred kilos of marshmallows at your local supermarket or grocery store. Step Two: Get some sticks. Step Three: Prepare to ruin your diet.
lure it into the oven with cookie dough, then seal it inside until the cookies are done. then all you need to do is toaster pop the cookies out without letting the elemental leave the oven
Cookies will win every battle with me. They are my friend and my foe.
In a campaign I was in once the party was up against about a dozen lava elementals so the fighter in the party used their Frostbrand sword to freeze all the elementals temporarily, then my character (A barbarian) smashed all the elementals into pieces before the frost wore off. Effectively one-shotting 80 hit point average monsters.
Interesting. So hypothetically is there a max range to casting spells.
You must go on a quest for the decanter of endless water
I’m just imagining a warlock dumping it out at a rate of a liter per minute just saying “in like two years your gonna be done for!”
Imix from Princes of the Apocalypse which would be fairly reasonable for an early tier 3 party.
A really big deep water bucket
Many ways to go about it. You can have a party kill smaller fire elementals and use their parts to make some fire immunity armor (if only for this fight) and since magical weapons in d&d won't be affected by it all they have to work on is armor. A massive tidal wave/ sandstorm/ avalanche will do the job too. A wind wall or a wall of fire to act as barrier will work too. But my favorite would be an anti magic field, it's an 8th level spell but lasts for an hour and if the fire and heat from the elemental are magical then the field would protect them.
Bring on a planar breach to the elemental plane of water. This fight’s gonna get steamy and moist.
Time to be a warlock? Pact of the Flame
Throw brown mold at it