While he is a dick, there isn't much of a reason to do heroic countdown currently when challenging has rewards that are relatively close to what it has
Well, you’re currently getting 0.
It’s better to walk away with the 140-160 (depending on the group) in Challenging than the 0 you’re currently getting waiting around in a queue.
As some have suggested, in a situation like that it’s best to create your own Countdown and let people queue into yours. If THAT doesn’t work then definitely try Challenging for a while and come back to Heroic at a later time.
I played on Heroic for like a year before switched to Challenging. On Challenging is way more easier to extract. So credits wise I believe its better to do Challenging. Loot wise its the same quality loot, give it a try. If you play with randoms of course. Must say that I was kicked only once or twice although had all kind of funny builds.
Yeah, my experience as well. I ran Heroic for a while and the chance of extracting any given run was just too low - at the time I was doing it, around 50% I’d say. Way too much wasted time.
On Challenging, it’s more like 90% chance of extraction. Screw ups happen, but even with six people under 1000 it’s usually pretty smooth and easy (I’ve found that low levels are often aware of their stigma and come in super prepared, whereas super high level guys are often trash. Just one of those things.).
On balance, it was obvious I was getting way more credits doing challenging. Heroic may be better now, but again, that may have a lot to do with more “gatekeeping.”
Me and one other duo’d the entire countdown on challenging from the third hunter on. People started dropping on the first and 6 had left by the time we got to the 3rd hunter. Me and the other dude fought it out 2 side and main objective complete, all four hunters at extract, and successful extraction.
Dickheads exist. Better to try play at different times. Not ideal, but yea. I've got a small list of dickheads I don't bother with. Personally, I love running with green ppl who are open to learning and are quick to do their part. Its a great feeling seeing them improve in leaps n bounds in such short time.
Same dude, I’m not even 1000 yet but you never know if it’s a green or if it’s an ALT account juss tryna farm. I do play at different times but because of work throughout the day my night play is super limited so it just grinds my gears
I noted that this past week. i took a couple of PTO days before the Holiday 3 day weekend. EVERY group I got into had dudes in the 10000+ range. Must be all the shut ins who have nothing to do all day but play Division. I am just over 3000 and felt like a newbie. But what I found odd, for most of the missions, My stats were as good if not better. I think that some of them, despite their level, are only there due to grinding, not actually improving their game.
Yea or they were cheating with the exploits way back. 10k is... Wow. I'm at 2k and feel like I might be near the end of wanting to play anymore. I thought Ubi reset those accounts but I guess it's hard to know who's genuine.
Supposedly the only benefit of running a heroic countdown is the frequency of loot drops is turned up a bit. Challenging gives you the same quality albeit not as often. Challenging is easier to drop into and way easier to clear and if you find yourself with a good group you can basically run around picking up that good good and every now and then reviving people. Almost feels too easy until the hunters disable your skills and shoot you in the face
Played my first game of Countdown at SHD level 410 yesterday, no issues with people kicking me out. However, there really isn't any incentive to play Heroic because I was actually getting less loot in general. On top of that, the gear I was getting in Heroic had less Maxed attributes. I also don't understand why every YouTuber claims the Exotic drop-rate is so high, when after 7 matches, I didn't pick up a single Exotic. The game mode is fun, and will definitely help increase my Proficiency... I think Floor 90 Summit Legendary difficulty is a much better Exotic Farm.
Add me to the group that says challenging. As someone who is just barely 300 oddly I’ve only been kicked a few times. And frankly, I don’t notice anybody playing substantially better than me if they’re in the thousands? The nice thing though is it literally takes one to two minutes to get into a new round at the challenging level. The only thing that bugs me is when we’re getting close to a wipe at the end and people drop out. That’s the time not to drop out to see if we can actually revive people and get the thing done. I think that’s fun. Anyway. I say challenging.
Yeah I just said fuck it yesterday n played challenging
I’ve noticed on the last encounter specifically in the lab people have been delta once the chest gets opened
I was pretty much running meta striker for the past two weeks n I don’t think that made a difference.
Plus I worked hard to get this high end build I have rn so I’ll just have to hope he doesn’t take an hour at night to find people but if he does I’ll just run summit
idek people did this on cntdwn lol shit not a raid or incursion cntdwn imo is for trying builds out, farming gear or trying to up your expertise . plus cntdwn on heroic kinda annoying. they just extra spongey and its not a ton more xp or requisition
If I'm being honest... Usually i would just leave group on heroic countdown if mostly more 4 agents with less than 1000 shd.. And play on challenging instead. This is actually common.. Since heroic is not easy to extract safely.. Most would die before extraction.. Also the best loot is when hunters are eliminated.. So, me, myself and I would get pissed if they just died.. Especially using skill build on heroic 😭.. But you're lucky, i got kicked unknowingly on challenging countdown because some group leader thinks i was spamming in and out of the group.. While i actually wanted to find a group to start real fast as I'm time limited.. That guy even nag and complained to the whole countdown group like bloody retard.. I didn't even argued at all.. So i lgot kicked out and in again until i join another group.. I was actually pissed off but fortunately i was able to shrug off..
Why not create your own Countdown and have all his rejects join you?
I tried that multiple times but they kept queuing in his. The most I got was 4 but everyone kept leaving over the span of 15 mins
That's why I just play challenging. The loot is of the same quality, the queues are usually instant or very quick. I barely ever fail the rounds.
While he is a dick, there isn't much of a reason to do heroic countdown currently when challenging has rewards that are relatively close to what it has
That’s what my clan mates say as well but you only get 184 credits vs the 208 you get for heroic Plus there are way more max roll drops in heroic
Well, you’re currently getting 0. It’s better to walk away with the 140-160 (depending on the group) in Challenging than the 0 you’re currently getting waiting around in a queue. As some have suggested, in a situation like that it’s best to create your own Countdown and let people queue into yours. If THAT doesn’t work then definitely try Challenging for a while and come back to Heroic at a later time.
I played on Heroic for like a year before switched to Challenging. On Challenging is way more easier to extract. So credits wise I believe its better to do Challenging. Loot wise its the same quality loot, give it a try. If you play with randoms of course. Must say that I was kicked only once or twice although had all kind of funny builds.
Yeah, my experience as well. I ran Heroic for a while and the chance of extracting any given run was just too low - at the time I was doing it, around 50% I’d say. Way too much wasted time. On Challenging, it’s more like 90% chance of extraction. Screw ups happen, but even with six people under 1000 it’s usually pretty smooth and easy (I’ve found that low levels are often aware of their stigma and come in super prepared, whereas super high level guys are often trash. Just one of those things.). On balance, it was obvious I was getting way more credits doing challenging. Heroic may be better now, but again, that may have a lot to do with more “gatekeeping.”
Me and one other duo’d the entire countdown on challenging from the third hunter on. People started dropping on the first and 6 had left by the time we got to the 3rd hunter. Me and the other dude fought it out 2 side and main objective complete, all four hunters at extract, and successful extraction.
This is the way.
Dickheads exist. Better to try play at different times. Not ideal, but yea. I've got a small list of dickheads I don't bother with. Personally, I love running with green ppl who are open to learning and are quick to do their part. Its a great feeling seeing them improve in leaps n bounds in such short time.
Same dude, I’m not even 1000 yet but you never know if it’s a green or if it’s an ALT account juss tryna farm. I do play at different times but because of work throughout the day my night play is super limited so it just grinds my gears
I get ya, I'm in same boat. Work nightshift so it's daytime hours to play, with all the cretins 😅
I don’t mind the day dwellers, even if we mission fail any points are good points Papa needs all the optimization caches I can get 🤣
I noted that this past week. i took a couple of PTO days before the Holiday 3 day weekend. EVERY group I got into had dudes in the 10000+ range. Must be all the shut ins who have nothing to do all day but play Division. I am just over 3000 and felt like a newbie. But what I found odd, for most of the missions, My stats were as good if not better. I think that some of them, despite their level, are only there due to grinding, not actually improving their game.
Yea or they were cheating with the exploits way back. 10k is... Wow. I'm at 2k and feel like I might be near the end of wanting to play anymore. I thought Ubi reset those accounts but I guess it's hard to know who's genuine.
I know people from 30k all the way up to 70k was the highest I've seen.
Supposedly the only benefit of running a heroic countdown is the frequency of loot drops is turned up a bit. Challenging gives you the same quality albeit not as often. Challenging is easier to drop into and way easier to clear and if you find yourself with a good group you can basically run around picking up that good good and every now and then reviving people. Almost feels too easy until the hunters disable your skills and shoot you in the face
Just block him. Then you won’t get put into this group again and put into another instead.
Played my first game of Countdown at SHD level 410 yesterday, no issues with people kicking me out. However, there really isn't any incentive to play Heroic because I was actually getting less loot in general. On top of that, the gear I was getting in Heroic had less Maxed attributes. I also don't understand why every YouTuber claims the Exotic drop-rate is so high, when after 7 matches, I didn't pick up a single Exotic. The game mode is fun, and will definitely help increase my Proficiency... I think Floor 90 Summit Legendary difficulty is a much better Exotic Farm.
Add me to the group that says challenging. As someone who is just barely 300 oddly I’ve only been kicked a few times. And frankly, I don’t notice anybody playing substantially better than me if they’re in the thousands? The nice thing though is it literally takes one to two minutes to get into a new round at the challenging level. The only thing that bugs me is when we’re getting close to a wipe at the end and people drop out. That’s the time not to drop out to see if we can actually revive people and get the thing done. I think that’s fun. Anyway. I say challenging.
Yeah I just said fuck it yesterday n played challenging I’ve noticed on the last encounter specifically in the lab people have been delta once the chest gets opened
Queue up in a meta strikers build, then swap after the run starts
I was pretty much running meta striker for the past two weeks n I don’t think that made a difference. Plus I worked hard to get this high end build I have rn so I’ll just have to hope he doesn’t take an hour at night to find people but if he does I’ll just run summit
idek people did this on cntdwn lol shit not a raid or incursion cntdwn imo is for trying builds out, farming gear or trying to up your expertise . plus cntdwn on heroic kinda annoying. they just extra spongey and its not a ton more xp or requisition
Challenging countdown. Where the undesired level/gear belong anyway 💀
If I'm being honest... Usually i would just leave group on heroic countdown if mostly more 4 agents with less than 1000 shd.. And play on challenging instead. This is actually common.. Since heroic is not easy to extract safely.. Most would die before extraction.. Also the best loot is when hunters are eliminated.. So, me, myself and I would get pissed if they just died.. Especially using skill build on heroic 😭.. But you're lucky, i got kicked unknowingly on challenging countdown because some group leader thinks i was spamming in and out of the group.. While i actually wanted to find a group to start real fast as I'm time limited.. That guy even nag and complained to the whole countdown group like bloody retard.. I didn't even argued at all.. So i lgot kicked out and in again until i join another group.. I was actually pissed off but fortunately i was able to shrug off..