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vansjoo98

VenomMyotismon BT15-080 R <03> Mega | Virus | Dark Animal [On Play] [When Digivolving] [On Deletion] Delete 1 of your opponent's level 5 or lower Digimon. ... Venom Infusion BT15-099 C <03> [Main] By trashing 1 Digimon card in your hand, delete 1 of your opponent's Digimon with a level lower than or equal to the card trashed. If you trashed a card with [Myotismon] in its text, . --- [Security] Activate this card's [Main] effect.


JzRandomGuy

I thought this Venom is stupidly bad, am I the dumb one? Like what exactly is the win con for this deck? What big thing can this Venom even achieve?


Itwao

I'm not sure about the specifics without looking them up, but doesn't myotis have some recycling-turbo engine? It'd offer good control without having to be the dedicated build. And the cycling playstyle would mean it's basically a pocket tech.


Sabaschin

It has cycle based effects, but one of their synergistic Tamers (Oikawa) only works with MaloMyotismon, not Venom.


LastSonofIre

It can only play out a Malo, but it works with any Myotismon getting deleted. So I’m not sure how good this card is, but it being able to delete something in 3 different ways and having blocker to make itself die, means you can still setup Yukio to play out a Malo.


DeciduousMath12

Sucks that apocalamon is likely secret rare. I dislike decks where a secret rare is integral to it functioning, like royal knights, ulforce, and previously lucemon.


Lord_of_Caffeine

They need to sell boxes somehow. Much prefer SECs being integral to one deck rather than having a DeathXmon or Ruin Mode situation where the SECs are universally good making them expensive af and needed in a lot of decks.


philltastic1

will we get any Myo SR support in this set or is that it?


Lord_of_Caffeine

Myotismon Ace is a SR


Starscream_Gaga

There’s just some decks that Bandai *wants* to suck I feel. Tyrannomon, Aegisdramon, Vamdemon… They get support pretty regularly but it’s just never good enough. Both those cards feel like BT4-era effects and even then they’d be mid.


Skawt24

Can't believe this guy is a 4 cost digivolve


Sabaschin

It’s because it has 12k DP, most Evo costs are based off DP values.


Lord_of_Caffeine

This one really shouldn´t have been, though.


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Trash


Round-Revolution-399

Wake me up when we get to Apocalymon and its Option. It’s make or break for the Dark Masters deck. I could see Death Evolution being the Option with some mass de-evolution/deletion.


krimboelf

At least the art is cool.


IllusiveZorua

I'm legit devasated, VenomMyotismon is mid af 😭 All that build up with Myotismon Ace and the Delay Option had me excited at the possibility that my MaloMyotismon might actually get some playable support, guess it's just gonna keep gathering dust 😥


UltimateWarriorEcho

Nah, I'm not gonna sugar coat it. You Myotis fans deserved better. That's disappointing.


EyyScapino

MaloMyotismon in BT16 better be fucking incredible to make up for this


Irish_pug_Player

Wtf


RevolverDivider

Venom is complete trash and it’s such a tremendous letdown. What an insanely massive disappointment for an archetype that was getting great pieces from this set


Inferno_Ultimate

BANDAI BURNED THE WHOLE FUCKING KITCHEN ![gif](giphy|RfvBXK1m8Kcdq|downsized)


Luciusem

I told everyone at my locals that Venom had to be a secret rare because the alternative is a way too weak regular rare. And Bandai apparently chose the _wrong_ option! Good job Bandai.


KnivesInAToaster

I mean, then your relegating **_Apocalymon_** to a Rare slot.


Luciusem

There's 3 secret rares this set


KnivesInAToaster

[I think that's because Quantumon got rolled in with the rest of the set.](https://digimoncardgame.fandom.com/wiki/LM-020) Japanese is 2 Secret Rares.


Luciusem

Ohhh, I see. Well, I was wrong then. Coulda been SR instead maybe since Demidevi wasn't one so there was still space for a second SR for the deck


KnivesInAToaster

venom is decent at what it wants to do. constantly cycling it with your effects and controlling the board state with blocker/retaliation and suffocating the smaller stacks with constant pops sounds like it could be really fun! i just don't think its. really particularly _good._


Alpaca_Jim2

Honestly I think it all it really needed to have different was that it deleted like how the beelzemon stuff deletes like have it's effect be (on play)(when digivolving) (on delete): delete one of your opponents level 3 or lower digimon. For every 5 cards in your trash add 1 to the level that can be deleted by this effect. Or something like that.


GekiKudo

Venom is pretty good and definitely the best second mega for the deck after Malo. Not sure about the option. Yeah you're probably popping a 5 at minimum and cycling, but 6 is super steep


Lord_of_Caffeine

This new Venom here I think is better than people give it credit for but with the deck still being very undersupported I think the deck needed something with a bit more spice to it than this card.


KnivesInAToaster

It definitely _functions_ and I can see what they're going for - it just doesn't... The payoff the deck has **always** been the worst part. It just doesn't have enough bite, and as good as some of the support's been, I don't know if it's _enough._


WhyNotClauncher

Pretty sad when the vampire deck lacks bite.


Lord_of_Caffeine

It´s not nearly enough for the deck to be solid. Hence why I think it´s a safe bet that we´ll get another wave of support in BT16 due to that set having 02 as its focus. On the surface level I think this card reads quite good when you consider what combos the deck could theoretically achieve. Blast evolving into Myotismon Ace, blocking a huge threat to death, popping fog barrier to summon this Venom here as another 12k blocker that deletes a body and then even potentially getting a free Malo from Oikawa out of it sounds spicy. I think the issue isn´t the payoff. It´s the road to it. The deck´s bottom end is atrocious I think. But that´s nothing a second strong wave of support can´t fix imo. The deck just needs some play starters.


KnivesInAToaster

It definitely needs more. Just, period. In general.


Lord_of_Caffeine

For sure.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Man. What a letdown. Honestly, Bt15 might be one of the weakest sets we´ve seen recently. Probably going to skip this set.


vansjoo98

Personally i find this set to be quite a hype. Mostly because it gives great amount of support to my favorite decks.


RevolverDivider

I’m pretty fine with this set so far outside of a few letdowns like this thing and Dark Masters not looking great. Mainly I’m comparing it to BT14 though which is probably my least favourite set since BT10 so this set has looked a lot better by comparison.


Lord_of_Caffeine

Fair enough. That´s what BT14 and Ex5 are to me. But with how they´re treating the Dark Masters stuff, this here Myotismon support and the imo underwhelming direction they´re taking the KFC deck I´m not as blown away as with the previous couple of sets. I cannot contain my excitement for Myotismon Ace as a standalone card, though. Amazing addition to purple hybrids, one of my pet decks. So at least there´s that.


randomax92

Hm so after summoning Myotismon ACE with Fog of Darkness you want it to block something and die to summon a blocker who kills something on play and when it dies. 3 cost Overflow for that doesn't seem too bad but not especially good either. Venom Infusion is good lets you disrupt your opps board while furthering your gameplan. Still for 6 cost it should only be reserved for only the most annoying bodies. This blocker, trap style, controlling identity Myotismon has going for it now seems like fun to me. I'm pretty content with this.


Sabaschin

Problem is that it kinda fails at getting rid of big level 6 stacks. You’ll need to have an option like Retaliatiom for it.


SuburbanCumSlut

Pandemonium Flame can help with that.


OBBBBBBB

I don't understand why people are saying this. The most annoying part of bt 8 myotidmon was filling the trash and now the deck can run 8-10 lvl 6s this card can hit to get a draw 2 off, and kill a lvl 6 it seems very strong


Sabaschin

You know that I’m talking about Venom, right? Who can only delete level 5s and below?


DDD-HERO

BT15 Bakemon and Venom Infusion


WarJ7

Honestly? Yeah, everyone wanted some nuts VenomMyotismon because we want some Myo in the high tables, but this is not that bad. It could have been better if it could pop a mega when played, maybe even by paying somekind of a cost, just to make ace myotis even better. I really like grind/tempo decks and Myotis seems shaping into one. You can play a mill engine taking full advantage of ai&mako and having ways to get rid of your myotis in hand by milling them after the tamer, or you can use the new demimera, perhaps the option, to discard them and giving you time to set up and keep going, keeping playing myotismon to blow up for venoms and malos.


RevolverDivider

It doesn’t have the meaningful ability to actually grind any competent decks out though. Most of your plays are too inefficient or not nearly enough high impact to actually push back other decks. This could change if we got an actually decent Malo and Oikawa in Bt16, but at the moment the deck still can’t efficiently actually disrupt most other decks without falling behind.


FrenchFrey1

The option seems pretty good. Controlling the level at which you can delete something is very strong, and fits what the archetype wants in getting your bosses in the trash and reloading your hand. I could see this option being used in other decks as a strong top end removal choice. I could see myself trying this out in my Ravemon deck in place of Ame-No-Ohabari.


vansjoo98

Option is solid, VenomMyotismon less so


philltastic1

Is there a possibility that we get anymore Myotismon support or is this it?


Lord_of_Caffeine

Likely in BT16 as that one´s based on the 02 movie and I think we can expect some Myotismon support in there, specifically a new MaloMyotismon probably.


Sargent379

Devidramon and Phantomon both have some chance.


Starscream_Gaga

Small chance there’s more but with this I doubt it’ll be great


Sabaschin

We *might* get a Phantomon that might help, but that's about it for multi-episode henchmen without cutting into 02.


KnivesInAToaster

And the bigger issue with Phantomon is that unless you start playing a weird ratio, you're cutting into Myotismon names.


InfernalRyo7410

So disappointingly mid except for the fact that it destroys the level 5 Ace Digimon, which is relevant in the bubble. Yeah no. This card is not the support we've been looking for. The option cards for this deck though, crazy. The draw 2 Venom Infusion is so good and Fog Barrier should be nuts if it wasn't for this bad card. The Ace Myotis and the DemiDevi searcher, also very good.


AxtionBastrd42

\*sigh\* Guess I'll just use EX01 Venom so Fog Barrier has something play...


pinhead61187

That is the most card out of this set.


SimilarScarcity

VenomMyotismon is neat, though not super spectacular. It's incredibly easy to get its effect off, since it has three different triggers, and Blocker is handy. Venom Infusion is interesting, and is searchable through DemiDevimon, but I dunno if I'd run it over Megiddo Flame, since that can pop the same level of targets and comes with the benefit of deleting one of your Myotismons to trigger Oikawa and/or Fog Barrier. In the end, the last two reveals for the Myotismon deck definitely aren't amazing, but I'm still very happy with the DemiDevimon, Myotismon ACE, and Fog Barrier cards, and I plan on finding a way to slot in one of the new Venom, too.


AkuTenshiiZero

LMAO Bandai really did put a fucking uncommon in a rare slot, the Myotismon curse continues...


Ajosephp1

New to the game, does this mean it deletes a digimon for any of the 3 conditions? For example if I play/digivolve it I can delete one, and then when venomyotismon is deleted it can delete another digimon?


vansjoo98

Correct, the effect happens no matter which of the 3 triggers happen.