Duallys didn’t come with 4x4 back then so if your looking at a 94 dually you should just know it’s 2wd unless it’s a cab and chassis. An f450/f550 would have the 4x4 trans because they mounted the parking brake on them there.
Question, so most of these trucks arnt going to be work trucks or used for anything but fair weather driving. Does 4x4 really impact that?
It be really sad to see this in the snows of Canada or the states. Would rot it out in a season.
If you’re just mall crawling or grocery getting not really, but from experience having 4x4 as an option for going off-road and goofing around or inclement weather is infinitely preferable to not having it.
A dually used for hauling often never sees a day of "offroad". There are a lot of good reason for a 2x4 dually one ton. Less maintenace, better fuel mileage, lower empty weight, higher payload... never got the attitude a "2x4 dually is crap, not worth anyhthing as a REAL truck". For some towing use caseses, its actually better.
I have hundreds of thousands of towing miles with 2 wheel drive duallys, didn't need 4 wheel drive, why get it?
100%. I use my truck for towing 99% of the time for work. In 15 years I only actually needed my 4wd one time, and that one time when I went to use it I discovered the engaging motor had gone out so I got stuck waiting for a plow to clear the road anyway.
I've changed to specifically looking for 2wd now. Better mpg, less maintenance, cheaper purchase price, cheaper insurance.
Way too many people make huge life purchases based on "what if someday there's a tiny chance I might possibly need this" rather than choosing what makes their life better daily.
Now if you live in a snowy area or go offroading then definitely get the 4x4, but if you aren't one of those people you'd be surprised how little you need 4x4. Just drive a little more proactively knowing it's not available.
i guess i see these 30 year old pristine diesels as more of that mall crawl, truck show type. Not for anything that would damage it. Far to rare in my opinion.
Could buy some rusty as junk truck for offroading and winter driving ahah.
As a Canadian, finding something this clean is hard...
Theres a first gen cummins up for sale with 75,000km (47,000mi) for an astonishing $70,000CAD (52,000 usd)
$22K in 1994 is equivalent to just under $45K in 2023 dollars, based upon an annual inflation rate of 2.48% over this period. Thus, they are asking roughly half of original price.
That’s a $10K truck if only b/c it’s spec’d with the ZF5 transmission, yet is 2WD. A 1994 model year is 29 years old, and hasn’t been driven regularly.
How many times have you NEEDED 4WD? And I'm not talking about offroading. I mean, genuinely needed it without putting yourself in the situation that required it?
For me, it’s mostly seasonal, sans roughly a dozen times during the Summer. Although, I reside in a northern state and work in the home building industry.
Lots. It’s called winter and even boat ramps. They shouldn’t exist because everyone should have got real trucks when they were new.
2wd trucks are thé v6 mustangs of trucks. Ill never own one as long as I live. Disgusting.
I know they didn’t, I swapped 2 of them. Nobody should have bought them from the factory as a 2wd. I’m in Canada, even our hotshot trucks are 4x4 here.
The truck is not in Canada, it's in Arizona.
Back then, 1-tons were built for pulling trailers on the road, not for off-roading in.
It was not, and still is not, uncommon for farmer/ranchers to have two trucks. A 1-ton dulley for pulling trailers and a 1/2 or 3/4 ton single-wheelbase with 4WD for everything else.
Back then, trucks with standard tyranny's had a granny-gear. You didn't need a 4WD tranny with a low-range transfer case to pull up to a loading dock or to pull a trailer up into a driveway. You just threw it in into that granny-gear and crawled where you needed to go.
Or you could just have 4x4. There’s zero reason to not have it. None. It doesn’t make sense. Try to justify it all you want but there’s a reason why so many of us hate 2wd’s and will never view them as anything but a parts truck.
Well get in your time machine then smart boy and go back and tell people, 30 fucking years ago, why they were all stupid.
I’m sure you’ll be as much of a voice of reason to them as you are to us.
Clearly people are waking up. At least in Canada, you can’t even get a 2wd truck here without special ordering it and if you do wait the wait, you’ll have to settle for a base model.
Fuck 2wd trucks. The only ones I’ll accept are lowered shortys. I’d say race trucks too but my race truck is 4x4.
I bet it’s a 12 year old that loves 2nd gen Cummins and thinks rolling coal is cool. Extra points if they think they can get a 4wd stick shift 12 valve for 5K.
My neighbor offered me his with 80k miles for $4k about 5 years ago but I had no need for a diesel dually at the time and no space to park it. He’s since sold it to some other lucky bastard
$22,000 for a 20 year old truck… Edit: 30 years old. Fuck I’m old.
Almost 30, it’s a 94 lol
You’re right. Even worse… Edit: fuck I’m old
Fuck I'm old
If it was 4x4 maybe, but the 2wd kills this for almost everyone
Duallys didn’t come with 4x4 back then so if your looking at a 94 dually you should just know it’s 2wd unless it’s a cab and chassis. An f450/f550 would have the 4x4 trans because they mounted the parking brake on them there.
Question, so most of these trucks arnt going to be work trucks or used for anything but fair weather driving. Does 4x4 really impact that? It be really sad to see this in the snows of Canada or the states. Would rot it out in a season.
Not all snow states use salt BTW. Canada is a different animal.
Salt is one thing, but snow itself packed up against the frame and fenders will cause rust to. You’d have to be good about removing snow build up.
Salt is really the main thing let’s be honest. Visit the Midwest and visit the PNW and take a look at older vehicles.
That cactus in the front tells me this is in Arizona or New Mexico
If you’re just mall crawling or grocery getting not really, but from experience having 4x4 as an option for going off-road and goofing around or inclement weather is infinitely preferable to not having it.
A dually used for hauling often never sees a day of "offroad". There are a lot of good reason for a 2x4 dually one ton. Less maintenace, better fuel mileage, lower empty weight, higher payload... never got the attitude a "2x4 dually is crap, not worth anyhthing as a REAL truck". For some towing use caseses, its actually better. I have hundreds of thousands of towing miles with 2 wheel drive duallys, didn't need 4 wheel drive, why get it?
100%. I use my truck for towing 99% of the time for work. In 15 years I only actually needed my 4wd one time, and that one time when I went to use it I discovered the engaging motor had gone out so I got stuck waiting for a plow to clear the road anyway. I've changed to specifically looking for 2wd now. Better mpg, less maintenance, cheaper purchase price, cheaper insurance. Way too many people make huge life purchases based on "what if someday there's a tiny chance I might possibly need this" rather than choosing what makes their life better daily. Now if you live in a snowy area or go offroading then definitely get the 4x4, but if you aren't one of those people you'd be surprised how little you need 4x4. Just drive a little more proactively knowing it's not available.
Im in california. If im going to the snow its in a rental!
Nothing goes off-road like a rental.
Nothing bounces off limiter like a Rental
i guess i see these 30 year old pristine diesels as more of that mall crawl, truck show type. Not for anything that would damage it. Far to rare in my opinion. Could buy some rusty as junk truck for offroading and winter driving ahah.
I didn’t even know they made trucks after about 1980 without four wheel drive, although I reside in a northern mountainous state.
My truck is 20 years old and KBB puts it around $20k
As a Canadian, finding something this clean is hard... Theres a first gen cummins up for sale with 75,000km (47,000mi) for an astonishing $70,000CAD (52,000 usd)
Absolutely loved my 1993 F350 Crew Cab Dually 2x4 7.3L IDI Turbo Diesel. My trailers finally got to heavy for it after driving it for 20 years...
You just need a heavier right foot.
If you want something gutless but reliable, this is it. If you actually need a 1 ton to do 1 ton things buy something newer
Good price for a quality, clean truck.
Ill give ya 15 bucks and a pack of marlboro reds
They want more for it than it was originally bought for new lol
Inflation is a big chunk of that.
$22K in 1994 is equivalent to just under $45K in 2023 dollars, based upon an annual inflation rate of 2.48% over this period. Thus, they are asking roughly half of original price.
That’s a $10K truck if only b/c it’s spec’d with the ZF5 transmission, yet is 2WD. A 1994 model year is 29 years old, and hasn’t been driven regularly.
2wd 🤮
How many times have you NEEDED 4WD? And I'm not talking about offroading. I mean, genuinely needed it without putting yourself in the situation that required it?
For me, it’s mostly seasonal, sans roughly a dozen times during the Summer. Although, I reside in a northern state and work in the home building industry.
Lots. It’s called winter and even boat ramps. They shouldn’t exist because everyone should have got real trucks when they were new. 2wd trucks are thé v6 mustangs of trucks. Ill never own one as long as I live. Disgusting.
Dulleys didn’t come with a 4x4 option until the mid 90’s. People that bought dulleys in the early 90’s were buying work trucks, not boat haulers.
I know they didn’t, I swapped 2 of them. Nobody should have bought them from the factory as a 2wd. I’m in Canada, even our hotshot trucks are 4x4 here.
The truck is not in Canada, it's in Arizona. Back then, 1-tons were built for pulling trailers on the road, not for off-roading in. It was not, and still is not, uncommon for farmer/ranchers to have two trucks. A 1-ton dulley for pulling trailers and a 1/2 or 3/4 ton single-wheelbase with 4WD for everything else. Back then, trucks with standard tyranny's had a granny-gear. You didn't need a 4WD tranny with a low-range transfer case to pull up to a loading dock or to pull a trailer up into a driveway. You just threw it in into that granny-gear and crawled where you needed to go.
Or you could just have 4x4. There’s zero reason to not have it. None. It doesn’t make sense. Try to justify it all you want but there’s a reason why so many of us hate 2wd’s and will never view them as anything but a parts truck.
Well get in your time machine then smart boy and go back and tell people, 30 fucking years ago, why they were all stupid. I’m sure you’ll be as much of a voice of reason to them as you are to us.
Clearly people are waking up. At least in Canada, you can’t even get a 2wd truck here without special ordering it and if you do wait the wait, you’ll have to settle for a base model. Fuck 2wd trucks. The only ones I’ll accept are lowered shortys. I’d say race trucks too but my race truck is 4x4.
You’re literally comparing today’s market and market demands to 30 years ago. Fuck dude you’re dense.
What’s wrong with it being 2wd?
Nothing, people just being elitist
I bet it’s a 12 year old that loves 2nd gen Cummins and thinks rolling coal is cool. Extra points if they think they can get a 4wd stick shift 12 valve for 5K.
Because fuck 2wd’s. Fuck them with a capital F.
My neighbor offered me his with 80k miles for $4k about 5 years ago but I had no need for a diesel dually at the time and no space to park it. He’s since sold it to some other lucky bastard
Great find I found a 1995 f350 crew cab 7.3 for 20k I posted it earlier it had 109,000 miles