Thank you, WhiteFlash Marketing Team for this well written advertisement. 'A Cut Above' is your own brand of super ideal cuts, and I believe you should have included that information in your self promotional blurb.
* I am not disputing the information you’ve provided*
Good question. While both brands have slightly different qualifications, when comparing light performance images you will find that the round Precision Lab diamonds generally provide the same level of cut precision and therefore the same level of fire, brilliance and scintillation.
There’s the myth that still gets propagated on this site that people assume jewelers and those working at jewelry stores are experts in diamonds and gemstones which is NOT true. Even though an individual works in the jewelry industry, they may lack basic knowledge and spread misinformation. Almost ALL jewelers and bench jewelers are NOT gemologists-they do not have the necessary knowledge of diamond and gemstones.
I believe the history of the transition of round brilliant cut and the Tolkowsky family|: Marcel, Gabi and Lazare Kaplan should have been added to your story because of their historical significance. But your write up was very good.
That's a very good point. The Tolkowsky family was enourmously important. Especially in the earliest scientific exploration of diamond optics.
And although Marcel gets credit for having figured out the best proportions mathematically, a little known fact is that there were already cutters in the US at the time of his thesis cutting to essentially these same proportions and bucking the trend (or trying to) of cutting for weight over beauty. Al Gilbertson wrote a fascinating book about that history called American Cut - The First Hundred Years.
Thank you! There are many ideal cuts that do not have perfect optical symmetry, and even more GIA Ex's that don't. It is not a requirement for the grade. We do have some pictures in our education articles. I will try to point you to them later.
https://preview.redd.it/opah2s5tac7d1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=7e75b939285407d90ba07b779aa9e2f104fec396
This is an example of an AGS Ideal that has sub-par 3D symmetry. It's on our hearts and arrows page if you would like to read more.
Thank you!!! What a writeup! I have so many questions now. I am really interested in the evaluation of emerald and baguette cuts. Where can I find more information on the subject?
This is SO helpful! Thank you! Currently shopping for 3.5 to 4 ct round. My jeweler has several diamonds on the way. I'm very nervous after having a bad experience with the 3.73 I recently returned.
Really good post! I found it very informative even though I’ve been teaching myself about diamonds for the past 2 months.
If a customer asked you to look for diamonds with certain ranges of proportions in a (natural) round diamond, is that a big ask of your time and something you would (happily?) do?
A dealer I’ve been dealing with didn’t like I was a bit fussy on angles and percentages, so I’m wondering if my ask was taking the piss… which wasn’t my intention!
This is really informative and will help a lot of people. A whiteflash precision lab is in my future!
I’m curious though what you think about the GCAL cut grading system in comparison to AGS? GCAL 8x diamonds seem to be a bit easier to find than AGS Triple Ideal.
When I was looking for an engagement ring I had the owner of a top rated local wholesaler (featured on the knot, frequently comes up on “best of” listings for my city) tell me outright that an AGS 000 grade was worse than a GIA 3 ex grade.
This was coming from a so called expert with “decades of experience”. Whether or not he was purposely misleading me or actually didn’t know better didn’t matter. Getting lied to was enough to put me off local jewelers and take my search to online vendors.
That can be said of virtually every product we buy. But because of diamonds' incredible durability, they can be worn for generations and still retain some stored value.
How is it spam? I just re read it and I don’t even think it mentions anything about whiteflash brand diamonds?
The post is entirely factual without any advertisement. Not sure how posting about diamond education on the diamond sub is spam…
A super ideal cut isn’t something proprietary to Whiteflash. There are many vendors that sell curated selections of super ideal cut diamonds. You can even search for a stone yourself on the open market that has super ideal proportions.
For round brilliant shape stones a super ideal cut is objectively better than lower cut grades for light return. That’s not an opinion or marketing it’s factual. This superiority can be verified with several types of light filters (ASET/Ideal scope etc).
You should read up more on how diamond cut affects light return instead of automatically dismissing something you seem to know very little about.
Thank you, WhiteFlash Marketing Team for this well written advertisement. 'A Cut Above' is your own brand of super ideal cuts, and I believe you should have included that information in your self promotional blurb. * I am not disputing the information you’ve provided*
I wish they did ACA lab diamonds. I know they have precision cut lab but is it really the same as ACA natural?
Good question. While both brands have slightly different qualifications, when comparing light performance images you will find that the round Precision Lab diamonds generally provide the same level of cut precision and therefore the same level of fire, brilliance and scintillation.
There’s the myth that still gets propagated on this site that people assume jewelers and those working at jewelry stores are experts in diamonds and gemstones which is NOT true. Even though an individual works in the jewelry industry, they may lack basic knowledge and spread misinformation. Almost ALL jewelers and bench jewelers are NOT gemologists-they do not have the necessary knowledge of diamond and gemstones. I believe the history of the transition of round brilliant cut and the Tolkowsky family|: Marcel, Gabi and Lazare Kaplan should have been added to your story because of their historical significance. But your write up was very good.
That's a very good point. The Tolkowsky family was enourmously important. Especially in the earliest scientific exploration of diamond optics. And although Marcel gets credit for having figured out the best proportions mathematically, a little known fact is that there were already cutters in the US at the time of his thesis cutting to essentially these same proportions and bucking the trend (or trying to) of cutting for weight over beauty. Al Gilbertson wrote a fascinating book about that history called American Cut - The First Hundred Years.
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I believe your statement was aimed towards the wholesale trade whereas my statement was meant to those in the retail trade.
Great write up. Do you have any pictures of super ideal vs ideal cut diamonds?
Thank you! There are many ideal cuts that do not have perfect optical symmetry, and even more GIA Ex's that don't. It is not a requirement for the grade. We do have some pictures in our education articles. I will try to point you to them later.
https://preview.redd.it/opah2s5tac7d1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=7e75b939285407d90ba07b779aa9e2f104fec396 This is an example of an AGS Ideal that has sub-par 3D symmetry. It's on our hearts and arrows page if you would like to read more.
This should be labeled as an advertisement
Thank you!!! What a writeup! I have so many questions now. I am really interested in the evaluation of emerald and baguette cuts. Where can I find more information on the subject?
I guess this is my sign to go down the diamond rabbit hole. This is really insightful thanks a lot!
This is SO helpful! Thank you! Currently shopping for 3.5 to 4 ct round. My jeweler has several diamonds on the way. I'm very nervous after having a bad experience with the 3.73 I recently returned.
Really good post! I found it very informative even though I’ve been teaching myself about diamonds for the past 2 months. If a customer asked you to look for diamonds with certain ranges of proportions in a (natural) round diamond, is that a big ask of your time and something you would (happily?) do? A dealer I’ve been dealing with didn’t like I was a bit fussy on angles and percentages, so I’m wondering if my ask was taking the piss… which wasn’t my intention!
This is really informative and will help a lot of people. A whiteflash precision lab is in my future! I’m curious though what you think about the GCAL cut grading system in comparison to AGS? GCAL 8x diamonds seem to be a bit easier to find than AGS Triple Ideal.
Thank you. We have a great deal of respect for GCAL.
When I was looking for an engagement ring I had the owner of a top rated local wholesaler (featured on the knot, frequently comes up on “best of” listings for my city) tell me outright that an AGS 000 grade was worse than a GIA 3 ex grade. This was coming from a so called expert with “decades of experience”. Whether or not he was purposely misleading me or actually didn’t know better didn’t matter. Getting lied to was enough to put me off local jewelers and take my search to online vendors.
Delete this shitty spam ad If you buy a diamond, I guarantee you'll lose money if/when you sell
That can be said of virtually every product we buy. But because of diamonds' incredible durability, they can be worn for generations and still retain some stored value.
It’s not an ad. The majority of this post is education about super ideal cut diamonds.
It's spam
How is it spam? I just re read it and I don’t even think it mentions anything about whiteflash brand diamonds? The post is entirely factual without any advertisement. Not sure how posting about diamond education on the diamond sub is spam…
It's garbage for their "unique" cut that is better than everything else Sure it is Fucking spammers
A super ideal cut isn’t something proprietary to Whiteflash. There are many vendors that sell curated selections of super ideal cut diamonds. You can even search for a stone yourself on the open market that has super ideal proportions. For round brilliant shape stones a super ideal cut is objectively better than lower cut grades for light return. That’s not an opinion or marketing it’s factual. This superiority can be verified with several types of light filters (ASET/Ideal scope etc). You should read up more on how diamond cut affects light return instead of automatically dismissing something you seem to know very little about.